Re: Blue tooth headset
You know I have not tried this in a good while, but one thing that may or may not have a role in this and might explain why it works with iTunes and not VoiceOver is this. Music is a constant stream of audio where VoiceOver is not. Now with this said and based only on my experience, I think what happen in my case is the audio channel on the Mac closes when there is no sound, so if VO is not speaking or there is no music, the channel is closed and the headset would go to sleep. Now whether this is your issue I don't know, but something to consider. As far as why something is spoken twice is odd and I don't recall encountering that situation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Dynamic html and Safari in group mode
Hey good people out there in cyberland. I was trying to work with a web site which caused me problems, because it has links that, when pointing to them with your mouse, rolls down other links in a menu that you should click on to get where you want to go. It appears that in Safari 4 Beta, you can not see this menu of links when in group mode, at least not in a way that i know about. How do you knowledgable people out there tackle this? Thankful for any suggestions. /Krister --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Two questions of little significance
Well I am a fairly new Mac user but I have done a little experimenting with this ticking sound thing and this is what happens on my Macbook. When I download a file I have to interact with the download list to get the progress. If I interact a second time I am interacting with the group and that is when I hear the ticking sound. In other words, I hit the interact keys twice while focused on the download list to hear the ticking. Hope this helps at least a little. On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Brett Campbell wrote: > > Excellent, VO A is just the ticket to read the progress. > I believe the download ticking is a Mac sound. I hear it on my wife's > MacBook and she does not use VoiceOver. I did confirm that my box for > sounds is checked in the VO utility. I'll keep hunting. > Thanks for this. > > Brett > > > > On Jun 3, 2009, at 8:30 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > >> >> Hi. >> >> First question: You can enable and disable the Voiceover sounds >> including the clicking sound Voiceover makes to indicate the progress >> bar is moving in the VOiceover utility. Press VO f8, press the down >> arrow to the sound tab and press the tab key to check if the "mute >> sounds" is enabled or disabled. >> >> Second question: You can press VO a to read what's under the >> Voiceover >> cursor. That means you can move the VO cursor to the progress bar, >> and >> then press VO a to read the Vo cursors content. >> Best regards >> Søren Jensen >> Mail & MSN: >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >> Website: >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >> >> On 03/06/2009, at 00.36, James Dietz wrote: >> >>> >>> Regarding the first question: Not sure how to get the ticking to >>> return. I've never actually heard ticking sounds for anything other >>> than the Apple Software Update progress - all other ones are quiet >>> with VO. Maybe I've inadvertantly turned it off, as I think >>> softwareupdate logs in under another account when it's doing it's >>> dirty work. Second question: you can try setting up the download >>> progress area as a hotspot. Press vo+shift+number (any number up >>> to 9 >>> maybe) to save a hotspot (when your vo cursor is on the progress >>> bar), >>> and press vo+cmd+number to have vo "describe" the item at that >>> particular hotspot. Vo+Number moves focus to the hotspot. This >>> doesn't >>> work with some things *ahem song name in itunes ahem*, but it's >>> pretty >>> neat otherwise. >>> >>> James >>> >>> On 6/2/09, Brett Campbell wrote: The first question I have is related to the ticking sound one can hear when VO is focussed on the progress indicator during a download. Somehow the ticking has stopped on my Mac, and I like it, and I want it back. I explored System Preferences Sounds, but don't see anything relating to specific events. Does anyone know how to activate the download ticking sound? My second question relates to VO actually reading the download progress indicator. I always simply VO right back and forth to hear the data. Well, the other day I pressed some key and the percentage was spoken while remaining in the same place. I thought, cool, I'll have to remember this. Now I can't reproduce it. Does anyone know a key combo to press to read a progress indicator without moving back and forth? I know these questions belong at the very bottom of a priority list, but the list is here so I'm asking. Thanks for the incredible information the list members have provided to me thus far, both in questions I've asked and reading others posts. Brett > >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Refreshable Braille displays
The earth trembled... The sky darkened... the thunder banged, the wind howled and the voice of the gods boomed... > "And I plugged the braille sync 20 from hims and it worked also." My friend, You may be the only person in the world who has ever gotten more than a system crash or just plain nothing at all when they plugged in a hims product. I've been trying to work this out for 6 months at least and heard tonnes of problem reports, but no one has ever ever wrote to any of these groups to say it worked. I was beginning to think it had never been tested before the leppard software shiped with drivers for it. Best, Erik > > Original message: > >> really? I just plugged my pm40 display in and it worked right away. >> the quality of the braille display is another topic for another day, >> lol, but the fact that it works is a good thing!! >> peace and positivity >> Jessi >> follow me on twitter www.twitter.com/canadian_diva >> On 2-Jun-09, at 8:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > >>> Hi, > >>> I use the PM 40 from FS. I don't know what I did to get it >>> working, ... but it took a while. It is a little finicky, ... But it >>> works. > >>> Regards, >>> Alex, > > >>> On 28-May-09, at 9:23 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote: > Hey VO gurus! > I am wanting to play with and learn more about the refreshable braille display features of VoiceOver. I understand it's basics and am assuming that the display will show the same thing the VoiceOver Dialogue box shows. I am trying to upgrade my annual presentation to a university program for teachers of students with visual impairments. I've been doing this presentation since VoiceOver hit the OS, and have loved strutting a new feature each time. > Are there any products to steer towards or away from. Special cautions? I tried to use two at an AT showcase, but the Humanware dealer couldn't get them to work. My braille skills told me the batteries were dead! But he wouldn't admit it. > Your Friend, Sean Richards Tikkun jaq...@mac.com > > > > > > > > > >> > -- > George Zaynoun > Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE > Tel/Fax: +46500201623 > Mobile: +46707567315 > E-mail: humorlessg...@samobile.net > > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Got a new mac mini but have some questions.
Mike, Thanks for the keyboard answer. will I need sited help to figure out what keys to press or how does that work? I currently have my outlook contacts exported as a csv woindows file. I did not see the opsion to export to a pdmf or what ever the extention was that they told me. Matthew On 6/3/09, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Not sure about importing contacts since I really don't store those on > my computer but I can heolp with the keyboard question. A usb windows > keyboard will work fine. When you connect it, the mac will probably > ask you to press certain keys so that it can determine what type of > keyboard you are using. The other thing to keep in mind is, the > windows key on those keyboards will be the command key and the alt key > will be the option key. Other than that, it should work fine. > On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:51 AM, matthew dyer wrote: > >> >> Hello everyone. >> >> Yesterday I finily order my mac mini. I have a couple of questions. >> First. I have heard of people using windows keypoards and was >> wondering if there was anything needs to be done to get the mac to >> reconize it. If someone could point me in the direction with that I >> would apprisheate it very much. >> >> Next, I would like to find out how to go about inporting all of my >> audio and documents on to the mac as well as my contacts from outlook. >> Can I export to a csv file then inport it into the mac or is there a >> nother format that I should use. >> >> Matthew >> >> >> >> -- >> You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall. >> >> MSN/e-mail: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com >> AIM: mattdy1 >> skype: graduater2004. >> >> > > > > > > -- You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall. MSN/e-mail: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com AIM: mattdy1 skype: graduater2004. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Got a new mac mini but have some questions.
Hi, Matthew, I don't believe you will ned sighted help. Chantel. On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:38 AM, matthew dyer wrote: > > Mike, > > Thanks for the keyboard answer. will I need sited help to figure out > what keys to press or how does that work? I currently have my outlook > contacts exported as a csv woindows file. I did not see the opsion > to export to a pdmf or what ever the extention was that they told me. > > Matthew > > > > On 6/3/09, Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> Not sure about importing contacts since I really don't store those on >> my computer but I can heolp with the keyboard question. A usb windows >> keyboard will work fine. When you connect it, the mac will probably >> ask you to press certain keys so that it can determine what type of >> keyboard you are using. The other thing to keep in mind is, the >> windows key on those keyboards will be the command key and the alt >> key >> will be the option key. Other than that, it should work fine. >> On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:51 AM, matthew dyer wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello everyone. >>> >>> Yesterday I finily order my mac mini. I have a couple of questions. >>> First. I have heard of people using windows keypoards and was >>> wondering if there was anything needs to be done to get the mac to >>> reconize it. If someone could point me in the direction with that I >>> would apprisheate it very much. >>> >>> Next, I would like to find out how to go about inporting all of my >>> audio and documents on to the mac as well as my contacts from >>> outlook. >>> Can I export to a csv file then inport it into the mac or is there a >>> nother format that I should use. >>> >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall. >>> >>> MSN/e-mail: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com >>> AIM: mattdy1 >>> skype: graduater2004. >>> >> >> >>> >> > > > -- > You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall. > > MSN/e-mail: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com > AIM: mattdy1 > skype: graduater2004. > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dynamic html and Safari in group mode
Hi. What's the link to the website? If it's a swedish website, I'll be able to understand most of the text. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On 04/06/2009, at 14.22, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hey good people out there in cyberland. > I was trying to work with a web site which caused me problems, because > it has links that, when pointing to them with your mouse, rolls down > other links in a menu that you should click on to get where you want > to go. > It appears that in Safari 4 Beta, you can not see this menu of links > when in group mode, at least not in a way that i know about. How do > you knowledgable people out there tackle this? > Thankful for any suggestions. > /Krister > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dynamic html and Safari in group mode
Well one of the sites that can present such problems are at www.badtval.se . Try going into the web shop and click on the different categories. /Krister 4 jun 2009 kl. 18.23 skrev Søren Jensen: > > Hi. > > What's the link to the website? If it's a swedish website, I'll be > able to understand most of the text. > Best regards > Søren Jensen > Mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > On 04/06/2009, at 14.22, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> >> Hey good people out there in cyberland. >> I was trying to work with a web site which caused me problems, >> because >> it has links that, when pointing to them with your mouse, rolls down >> other links in a menu that you should click on to get where you want >> to go. >> It appears that in Safari 4 Beta, you can not see this menu of links >> when in group mode, at least not in a way that i know about. How do >> you knowledgable people out there tackle this? >> Thankful for any suggestions. >> /Krister >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dynamic html and Safari in group mode
Hmm, it works fine here. When I press VO spacebar on one of the links in the webshop, the new links from the submenu are just next to the link I just clicked on. I'm using dom mode. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ On 04/06/2009, at 18.51, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Well one of the sites that can present such problems are at www.badtval.se > . Try going into the web shop and click on the different categories. > /Krister > > 4 jun 2009 kl. 18.23 skrev Søren Jensen: > >> >> Hi. >> >> What's the link to the website? If it's a swedish website, I'll be >> able to understand most of the text. >> Best regards >> Søren Jensen >> Mail & MSN: >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >> Website: >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >> >> On 04/06/2009, at 14.22, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey good people out there in cyberland. >>> I was trying to work with a web site which caused me problems, >>> because >>> it has links that, when pointing to them with your mouse, rolls down >>> other links in a menu that you should click on to get where you want >>> to go. >>> It appears that in Safari 4 Beta, you can not see this menu of links >>> when in group mode, at least not in a way that i know about. How do >>> you knowledgable people out there tackle this? >>> Thankful for any suggestions. >>> /Krister >>> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dynamic html and Safari in group mode
first off, dom mode will generally give you more information, that's the setting I would advise you to use. Second, if you can get the mouse on the right spot, you could then turn off cursor tracking and see if you could read the menus. On Jun 4, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hey good people out there in cyberland. > I was trying to work with a web site which caused me problems, because > it has links that, when pointing to them with your mouse, rolls down > other links in a menu that you should click on to get where you want > to go. > It appears that in Safari 4 Beta, you can not see this menu of links > when in group mode, at least not in a way that i know about. How do > you knowledgable people out there tackle this? > Thankful for any suggestions. > /Krister > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Dynamic html and Safari in group mode
Groups mode is a mode which has fallen into disfavor lately because of what has been mentioned. This bug of ignoring dynamically changing HTML has been a problem since the days of tiger. It's not just a matter that DOM mode gives you more information end-of-story. The reason for that is a bug probably in apple's webkit which needs to be fixed. Regards Justin Harford On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > first off, dom mode will generally give you more information, that's > the setting I would advise you to use. Second, if you can get the > mouse on the right spot, you could then turn off cursor tracking and > see if you could read the menus. > On Jun 4, 2009, at 7:22 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> >> Hey good people out there in cyberland. >> I was trying to work with a web site which caused me problems, >> because >> it has links that, when pointing to them with your mouse, rolls down >> other links in a menu that you should click on to get where you want >> to go. >> It appears that in Safari 4 Beta, you can not see this menu of links >> when in group mode, at least not in a way that i know about. How do >> you knowledgable people out there tackle this? >> Thankful for any suggestions. >> /Krister >> >>> > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
