Re: A Couple Basic Browsing and Mail Questions

2009-03-07 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

On 1/3/09 16:14, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>Regarding your question about browsing, currently the way you are
> doing it is the only way, there is no say all for web pages.

How about:

http://atmac.org/simple-speak-selected-text/

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Time Zone

2009-03-07 Thread Eliza Cooper

Ok, I give up.  I keep returning to the clock menu to try to change my  
time zone, and I keep failing to figure out how.  It seems to be an  
image of the world that VO can't deal with, so I'm stumped as to how  
to find my time zone.  What setting am I missing?
Thanks,
Eliza

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time zone

2009-03-07 Thread Dean Adams
Hey Eliza,
 I had to get my son to change the time zone as I couldn't 
find a way with VO to change it so if you have one of those kind 
sighted animals get them to fix it up for you unless someone has a 
way that I couldn't find to change it.
Regards Dean

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Re: Time Zone

2009-03-07 Thread A-Pro Studio

Hi Eliza,

Try this:

In the Date and Time panel in System Prefs, select the second tab  
named Timezone.
Navigate using VO until you hear "Closest city:" and write your city  
in the combo box to the right. When I write Oslo, the rest is  
automatically, and I can simply leave the panel.

Hope this helps,
John André in NOrway  ;-)


On 7. mars. 2009, at 11.05, Eliza Cooper wrote:

>
> Ok, I give up.  I keep returning to the clock menu to try to change my
> time zone, and I keep failing to figure out how.  It seems to be an
> image of the world that VO can't deal with, so I'm stumped as to how
> to find my time zone.  What setting am I missing?
>Thanks,
>Eliza
>
> >


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Re: Time Zone

2009-03-07 Thread Eliza Cooper

I did try that, but because the wrong time zone is selected, when I  
type in my city, it doesn't come up.  What a trivial but annoying  
quirk this is.
Eliza
On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, A-Pro Studio wrote:

>
> Hi Eliza,
>
> Try this:
>
> In the Date and Time panel in System Prefs, select the second tab
> named Timezone.
> Navigate using VO until you hear "Closest city:" and write your city
> in the combo box to the right. When I write Oslo, the rest is
> automatically, and I can simply leave the panel.
>
> Hope this helps,
> John André in NOrway  ;-)
>
>
> On 7. mars. 2009, at 11.05, Eliza Cooper wrote:
>
>>
>> Ok, I give up.  I keep returning to the clock menu to try to change  
>> my
>> time zone, and I keep failing to figure out how.  It seems to be an
>> image of the world that VO can't deal with, so I'm stumped as to how
>> to find my time zone.  What setting am I missing?
>>   Thanks,
>>   Eliza
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: Time Zone

2009-03-07 Thread A-Pro Studio

Hi,

Ok, have you tried to first select all (command-A) in the combo box,  
then write the same wrong city, and then do the same and write your  
own city? Just a suggestion, command-A can be a better solution than  
using the delete key in such cases.

Take care,
John André


On 7. mars. 2009, at 11.21, Eliza Cooper wrote:

>
> I did try that, but because the wrong time zone is selected, when I
> type in my city, it doesn't come up.  What a trivial but annoying
> quirk this is.
>Eliza
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, A-Pro Studio wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Eliza,
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> In the Date and Time panel in System Prefs, select the second tab
>> named Timezone.
>> Navigate using VO until you hear "Closest city:" and write your city
>> in the combo box to the right. When I write Oslo, the rest is
>> automatically, and I can simply leave the panel.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> John André in NOrway  ;-)
>>
>>
>> On 7. mars. 2009, at 11.05, Eliza Cooper wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ok, I give up.  I keep returning to the clock menu to try to change
>>> my
>>> time zone, and I keep failing to figure out how.  It seems to be an
>>> image of the world that VO can't deal with, so I'm stumped as to how
>>> to find my time zone.  What setting am I missing?
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Eliza
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: time zone

2009-03-07 Thread Cara Quinn
   Dean and Eliza, you sure can change the timezone with VO.  

   Simply type a city in your timezone in the edit field and there you  
go.

   If the one you typed in isn't recognized, then go for another one  
closest you.

   Once you have one showing up in the edit field simply click close  
to close the window or do a command w and that's it!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)
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On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:11 AM, Dean Adams wrote:

Hey Eliza,
 I had to get my son to change the time zone as I couldn't  
find a way with VO to change it so if you have one of those kind  
sighted animals get them to fix it up for you unless someone has a way  
that I couldn't find to change it.
Regards Dean
!!!Thoughts become things so choose the good ones because Life's to  
short to be a grumble bum !!!

Email: d...@internode.on.net
Phone: 0243206031
Skype: deanadams9
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Re: time zone

2009-03-07 Thread Cara Quinn
   Just to reiterate, any city in your time zone will work.  I just  
verified this by typing in New York City to switch to EST and then  
switching back to my beloved LA LA Land!and it switched  
back to PST immediately.

   Best of luck!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)
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On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:31 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

   Dean and Eliza, you sure can change the timezone with VO.  

   Simply type a city in your timezone in the edit field and there you  
go.

   If the one you typed in isn't recognized, then go for another one  
closest you.

   Once you have one showing up in the edit field simply click close  
to close the window or do a command w and that's it!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)
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On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:11 AM, Dean Adams wrote:

Hey Eliza,
 I had to get my son to change the time zone as I couldn't  
find a way with VO to change it so if you have one of those kind  
sighted animals get them to fix it up for you unless someone has a way  
that I couldn't find to change it.
Regards Dean
!!!Thoughts become things so choose the good ones because Life's to  
short to be a grumble bum !!!

Email: d...@internode.on.net
Phone: 0243206031
Skype: deanadams9
Mobile: 0428133758








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espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread sandi sørensen

hi all.
For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as the  
default voice on the mac so well can it ?
I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about it.
I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover voice  
selection or 2 make a hack around it.
But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
/sandi


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Re: time zone

2009-03-07 Thread Eliza Cooper
You're talking about the combo box, right?  I don't see an edit  
field.  When you type in the city, what exactly happens?  It has me on  
New Delhi time right now and won't switch.  It showed New York City  
(which is what I want) a couple of times, in which case I was placed  
in a table that I could not get out of, and I could not select the  
name of the city.  I must be missing a step.
Eliza
On Mar 7, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:

>   Just to reiterate, any city in your time zone will work.  I just  
> verified this by typing in New York City to switch to EST and then  
> switching back to my beloved LA LA Land!and it switched  
> back to PST immediately.
>
>   Best of luck!…
>
> Smiles,
>
> Cara  :)
> ---
> View my Online Portfolio at:
> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:31 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>
>   Dean and Eliza, you sure can change the timezone with VO.  
>
>   Simply type a city in your timezone in the edit field and there  
> you go.
>
>   If the one you typed in isn't recognized, then go for another one  
> closest you.
>
>   Once you have one showing up in the edit field simply click close  
> to close the window or do a command w and that's it!…
>
> Smiles,
>
> Cara  :)
> ---
> View my Online Portfolio at:
> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:11 AM, Dean Adams wrote:
>
> Hey Eliza,
> I had to get my son to change the time zone as I couldn't  
> find a way with VO to change it so if you have one of those kind  
> sighted animals get them to fix it up for you unless someone has a  
> way that I couldn't find to change it.
> Regards Dean
> !!!Thoughts become things so choose the good ones because Life's to  
> short to be a grumble bum !!!
>
> Email: d...@internode.on.net
> Phone: 0243206031
> Skype: deanadams9
> Mobile: 0428133758
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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Re: time zone

2009-03-07 Thread Eliza Cooper
Oh, you know what, I got it to work finally.  I thought I'd have to  
select an ok button of some sort, so didn't think my changes would  
hold if I just closed the window, but they do.  Ah well, thanks for  
the hint!
Eliza
On Mar 7, 2009, at 5:36 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:

>   Just to reiterate, any city in your time zone will work.  I just  
> verified this by typing in New York City to switch to EST and then  
> switching back to my beloved LA LA Land!and it switched  
> back to PST immediately.
>
>   Best of luck!…
>
> Smiles,
>
> Cara  :)
> ---
> View my Online Portfolio at:
> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:31 AM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>
>   Dean and Eliza, you sure can change the timezone with VO.  
>
>   Simply type a city in your timezone in the edit field and there  
> you go.
>
>   If the one you typed in isn't recognized, then go for another one  
> closest you.
>
>   Once you have one showing up in the edit field simply click close  
> to close the window or do a command w and that's it!…
>
> Smiles,
>
> Cara  :)
> ---
> View my Online Portfolio at:
> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:11 AM, Dean Adams wrote:
>
> Hey Eliza,
> I had to get my son to change the time zone as I couldn't  
> find a way with VO to change it so if you have one of those kind  
> sighted animals get them to fix it up for you unless someone has a  
> way that I couldn't find to change it.
> Regards Dean
> !!!Thoughts become things so choose the good ones because Life's to  
> short to be a grumble bum !!!
>
> Email: d...@internode.on.net
> Phone: 0243206031
> Skype: deanadams9
> Mobile: 0428133758
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Greg Kearney

I vote for making them native voices.

On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi all.
> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as the
> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about it.
> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover voice
> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
> /sandi
>
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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread sandi sørensen

Greg agree.
But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices are  
selected.
I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can be  
added so can espeak:)
of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule or  
so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some point ?
/sandi
On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> I vote for making them native voices.
>
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hi all.
>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as the
>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about it.
>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover voice
>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>> /sandi
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Greg Kearney

We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here. We  
did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for  
each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the  
developer tools that come with the mac.

Greg
On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Greg agree.
> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices are
> selected.
> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can be
> added so can espeak:)
> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule or
> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some  
> point ?
> /sandi
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi all.
>>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as the
>>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about it.
>>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover voice
>>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>>> /sandi
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread sandi sørensen

Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in to  
what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with the  
mac book air, but i can be wrong.
/sandi

On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here. We
> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
> developer tools that come with the mac.
>
> Greg
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Greg agree.
>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices are
>> selected.
>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can be
>> added so can espeak:)
>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule or
>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>> point ?
>> /sandi
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 hi all.
 For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as the
 default voice on the mac so well can it ?
 I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about  
 it.
 I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover  
 voice
 selection or 2 make a hack around it.
 But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
 /sandi


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Brandon Misch

i would like to see other voices free ones that is working with voice  
over including the festival voices if there can be a festival installer.

On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in to
> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with the
> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
> /sandi
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.  
>> We
>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>
>> Greg
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Greg agree.
>>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices  
>>> are
>>> selected.
>>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can be
>>> added so can espeak:)
>>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule  
>>> or
>>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
>>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>>> point ?
>>> /sandi
>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 I vote for making them native voices.

 On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi all.
> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as  
> the
> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
> it.
> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
> voice
> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
> /sandi
>
>
>>


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread sandi sørensen

i am not sure of this ... But i believe  that there is a festival  
thingy for mac, i looked in to it when i made mac and flightgear work  
together.
One reason i dropped it was " it piled up quite fastly .
and was not disireable for what i needed it for  .
henze why i used speak.
That however was a sitetrack back too the topic.
If we can make speak work on mac we might be able too make some of the  
mbrolla voices work as well.
I am just realizing i have a old mac book i dont use if i can make  
speak work on it i can give it to a russian friend of mine she might  
get thrilled beyond believe:)
On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:

>
> i would like to see other voices free ones that is working with voice
> over including the festival voices if there can be a festival  
> installer.
>
> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
>> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in  
>> to
>> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with the
>> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
>> /sandi
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.
>>> We
>>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
>>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
>>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 Greg agree.
 But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
 are
 selected.
 I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can  
 be
 added so can espeak:)
 of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule
 or
 so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
 Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
 point ?
 /sandi
 On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> I vote for making them native voices.
>
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hi all.
>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
>> the
>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
>> it.
>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
>> voice
>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>> /sandi
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Brandon Misch

o i see. when you get those voices working on the mac, will it work  
with vo and anything else or will it also be available for us to use?  
and how will people install it? thanks.

On Feb 28, 2009, at 11:26 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> i am not sure of this ... But i believe  that there is a festival
> thingy for mac, i looked in to it when i made mac and flightgear work
> together.
> One reason i dropped it was " it piled up quite fastly .
> and was not disireable for what i needed it for  .
> henze why i used speak.
> That however was a sitetrack back too the topic.
> If we can make speak work on mac we might be able too make some of the
> mbrolla voices work as well.
> I am just realizing i have a old mac book i dont use if i can make
> speak work on it i can give it to a russian friend of mine she might
> get thrilled beyond believe:)
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
>
>>
>> i would like to see other voices free ones that is working with voice
>> over including the festival voices if there can be a festival
>> installer.
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
>>> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in
>>> to
>>> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with  
>>> the
>>> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
>>> /sandi
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.
 We
 did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
 each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
 developer tools that come with the mac.

 Greg
 On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Greg agree.
> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
> are
> selected.
> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can
> be
> added so can espeak:)
> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule
> or
> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
> point ?
> /sandi
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi all.
>>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
>>> the
>>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
>>> it.
>>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
>>> voice
>>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>>> /sandi
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
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>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Brandon Misch

and speaking of festival, will this work with vo? or not?

On Feb 28, 2009, at 11:26 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> i am not sure of this ... But i believe  that there is a festival
> thingy for mac, i looked in to it when i made mac and flightgear work
> together.
> One reason i dropped it was " it piled up quite fastly .
> and was not disireable for what i needed it for  .
> henze why i used speak.
> That however was a sitetrack back too the topic.
> If we can make speak work on mac we might be able too make some of the
> mbrolla voices work as well.
> I am just realizing i have a old mac book i dont use if i can make
> speak work on it i can give it to a russian friend of mine she might
> get thrilled beyond believe:)
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:36 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
>
>>
>> i would like to see other voices free ones that is working with voice
>> over including the festival voices if there can be a festival
>> installer.
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
>>> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in
>>> to
>>> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with  
>>> the
>>> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
>>> /sandi
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.
 We
 did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
 each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
 developer tools that come with the mac.

 Greg
 On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Greg agree.
> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
> are
> selected.
> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can
> be
> added so can espeak:)
> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule
> or
> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
> point ?
> /sandi
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi all.
>>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
>>> the
>>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
>>> it.
>>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
>>> voice
>>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>>> /sandi
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Scott Howell

Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have my  
DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional  
packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in to
> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with the
> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
> /sandi
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.  
>> We
>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>
>> Greg
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Greg agree.
>>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices  
>>> are
>>> selected.
>>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can be
>>> added so can espeak:)
>>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule  
>>> or
>>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
>>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>>> point ?
>>> /sandi
>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 I vote for making them native voices.

 On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi all.
> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as  
> the
> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
> it.
> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
> voice
> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
> /sandi
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

I figured out what needs to be done. I'm willing to let anyone who  
wants into the project I've started to do this. Just E-mail me at: 
asquare...@gmail.com 
  . I have done research on doing tis.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 7-Mar-09, at 11:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have my
> DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional
> packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
>> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in  
>> to
>> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with the
>> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
>> /sandi
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.
>>> We
>>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
>>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
>>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 Greg agree.
 But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
 are
 selected.
 I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can  
 be
 added so can espeak:)
 of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule
 or
 so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
 Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
 point ?
 /sandi
 On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> I vote for making them native voices.
>
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hi all.
>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
>> the
>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
>> it.
>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
>> voice
>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>> /sandi
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Greg Kearney

They are an optional install on the system CD that came with your mac.

Greg
On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in to
> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with the
> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
> /sandi
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.  
>> We
>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>
>> Greg
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Greg agree.
>>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices  
>>> are
>>> selected.
>>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can be
>>> added so can espeak:)
>>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule  
>>> or
>>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
>>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>>> point ?
>>> /sandi
>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 I vote for making them native voices.

 On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi all.
> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as  
> the
> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
> it.
> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
> voice
> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
> /sandi
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Ryan Dour

Hello,

Remember that in Mac OS X, there is a folder at /System/Library/Speech  
that contains both synths and voices. You have to develop a synth  
plugin, then place the voices in the same location. I've not seen docs  
on how this is set up at this point, so I think it would be quite a  
challenge to get something like flight or espeak working.

Ryan

On Feb 28, 2009, at 9:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Greg agree.
> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices are
> selected.
> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can be
> added so can espeak:)
> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule or
> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some  
> point ?
> /sandi
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi all.
>>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as the
>>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about it.
>>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover voice
>>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>>> /sandi
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Richie Gardenhire

Perhaps I may have overlooked this feature, but exactly what is  
sSpeak, and does one have to reinsert the installation CD if they want  
to get it?  I learn something new all the time, it seems. :)  Richie  
Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska.


On Mar 7, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> They are an optional install on the system CD that came with your mac.
>
> Greg
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
>> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in  
>> to
>> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with the
>> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
>> /sandi
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.
>>> We
>>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
>>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
>>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 Greg agree.
 But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
 are
 selected.
 I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can  
 be
 added so can espeak:)
 of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule
 or
 so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
 Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
 point ?
 /sandi
 On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> I vote for making them native voices.
>
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hi all.
>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
>> the
>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
>> it.
>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
>> voice
>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>> /sandi
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread sandi sørensen

hi.
Alex how about you just tell us all what you have done instead of all  
that closeness?
sounds like a better approach:)
espeak is another open speech which you can sortta use with mac as it  
is.
When i say like i do it's cause... you can use it with irc like tail-f  
-n1 filename|speak -s 300 and your irc-client speaks.
It works okay for both irssi and xchat.
so i was wanting too use it as we use fred alex and so on.
To ryan:
for 6 month ago you could not use flightgear as a blind person you can  
today.
Nothing is impossible the impossible things just takes more time:)

/sandi
   now On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> I figured out what needs to be done. I'm willing to let anyone who
> wants into the project I've started to do this. Just E-mail me at: 
> asquare...@gmail.com
>  . I have done research on doing tis.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 7-Mar-09, at 11:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>
>>
>> Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have my
>> DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional
>> packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
>> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
>>> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in
>>> to
>>> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with  
>>> the
>>> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
>>> /sandi
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue here.
 We
 did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier for
 each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
 developer tools that come with the mac.

 Greg
 On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Greg agree.
> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
> are
> selected.
> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can
> be
> added so can espeak:)
> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute rule
> or
> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at least.
> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
> point ?
> /sandi
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi all.
>>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
>>> the
>>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done about
>>> it.
>>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
>>> voice
>>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>>> /sandi
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

It isn't closeness, just unclutterness of the list.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 28-Feb-09, at 11:39 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi.
> Alex how about you just tell us all what you have done instead of all
> that closeness?
> sounds like a better approach:)
> espeak is another open speech which you can sortta use with mac as it
> is.
> When i say like i do it's cause... you can use it with irc like tail-f
> -n1 filename|speak -s 300 and your irc-client speaks.
> It works okay for both irssi and xchat.
> so i was wanting too use it as we use fred alex and so on.
> To ryan:
> for 6 month ago you could not use flightgear as a blind person you can
> today.
> Nothing is impossible the impossible things just takes more time:)
>
> /sandi
>   now On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I figured out what needs to be done. I'm willing to let anyone who
>> wants into the project I've started to do this. Just E-mail me at: 
>> asquare...@gmail.com
>> . I have done research on doing tis.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 7-Mar-09, at 11:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have my
>>> DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional
>>> packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
>>> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
 I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in
 to
 what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with
 the
 mac book air, but i can be wrong.
 /sandi

 On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue  
> here.
> We
> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier  
> for
> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
> developer tools that come with the mac.
>
> Greg
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Greg agree.
>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
>> are
>> selected.
>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can
>> be
>> added so can espeak:)
>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute  
>> rule
>> or
>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at  
>> least.
>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>> point ?
>> /sandi
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 hi all.
 For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
 the
 default voice on the mac so well can it ?
 I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done  
 about
 it.
 I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
 voice
 selection or 2 make a hack around it.
 But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
 /sandi


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

The opensource project ISpeak will hit the net on March 17. Keep tuned  
in to VIPBC.org for the details. This is the project I am speaking of.  
I invite anyone to join the project. All research will be posted for  
the enjoyment of all participants, but as I said, stay tuned.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 28-Feb-09, at 11:39 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi.
> Alex how about you just tell us all what you have done instead of all
> that closeness?
> sounds like a better approach:)
> espeak is another open speech which you can sortta use with mac as it
> is.
> When i say like i do it's cause... you can use it with irc like tail-f
> -n1 filename|speak -s 300 and your irc-client speaks.
> It works okay for both irssi and xchat.
> so i was wanting too use it as we use fred alex and so on.
> To ryan:
> for 6 month ago you could not use flightgear as a blind person you can
> today.
> Nothing is impossible the impossible things just takes more time:)
>
> /sandi
>   now On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I figured out what needs to be done. I'm willing to let anyone who
>> wants into the project I've started to do this. Just E-mail me at: 
>> asquare...@gmail.com
>> . I have done research on doing tis.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 7-Mar-09, at 11:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have my
>>> DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional
>>> packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
>>> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
 I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in
 to
 what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with
 the
 mac book air, but i can be wrong.
 /sandi

 On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue  
> here.
> We
> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier  
> for
> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
> developer tools that come with the mac.
>
> Greg
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Greg agree.
>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
>> are
>> selected.
>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can
>> be
>> added so can espeak:)
>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute  
>> rule
>> or
>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at  
>> least.
>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>> point ?
>> /sandi
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 hi all.
 For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
 the
 default voice on the mac so well can it ?
 I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done  
 about
 it.
 I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
 voice
 selection or 2 make a hack around it.
 But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
 /sandi


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread sandi sørensen

hi.
If that is i will  hop along )
no reason for having 2 things that can do the same thing
/sandi
On Mar 7, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> The opensource project ISpeak will hit the net on March 17. Keep tuned
> in to VIPBC.org for the details. This is the project I am speaking of.
> I invite anyone to join the project. All research will be posted for
> the enjoyment of all participants, but as I said, stay tuned.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 28-Feb-09, at 11:39 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hi.
>> Alex how about you just tell us all what you have done instead of all
>> that closeness?
>> sounds like a better approach:)
>> espeak is another open speech which you can sortta use with mac as it
>> is.
>> When i say like i do it's cause... you can use it with irc like  
>> tail-f
>> -n1 filename|speak -s 300 and your irc-client speaks.
>> It works okay for both irssi and xchat.
>> so i was wanting too use it as we use fred alex and so on.
>> To ryan:
>> for 6 month ago you could not use flightgear as a blind person you  
>> can
>> today.
>> Nothing is impossible the impossible things just takes more time:)
>>
>> /sandi
>>  now On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I figured out what needs to be done. I'm willing to let anyone who
>>> wants into the project I've started to do this. Just E-mail me at: 
>>> asquare...@gmail.com
>>> . I have done research on doing tis.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7-Mar-09, at 11:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>

 Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have  
 my
 DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional
 packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
 On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look  
> in
> to
> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with
> the
> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
> /sandi
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue
>> here.
>> We
>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier
>> for
>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>
>> Greg
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Greg agree.
>>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the  
>>> voices
>>> are
>>> selected.
>>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices  
>>> can
>>> be
>>> added so can espeak:)
>>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute
>>> rule
>>> or
>>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at
>>> least.
>>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>>> point ?
>>> /sandi
>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 I vote for making them native voices.

 On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi all.
> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used  
> as
> the
> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done
> about
> it.
> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
> voice
> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
> /sandi
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Brandon Misch

will this project allow e speak to be used with voice over?

On Mar 7, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> The opensource project ISpeak will hit the net on March 17. Keep tuned
> in to VIPBC.org for the details. This is the project I am speaking of.
> I invite anyone to join the project. All research will be posted for
> the enjoyment of all participants, but as I said, stay tuned.
>
> Thanks,
> Alex,
>
>
> On 28-Feb-09, at 11:39 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hi.
>> Alex how about you just tell us all what you have done instead of all
>> that closeness?
>> sounds like a better approach:)
>> espeak is another open speech which you can sortta use with mac as it
>> is.
>> When i say like i do it's cause... you can use it with irc like  
>> tail-f
>> -n1 filename|speak -s 300 and your irc-client speaks.
>> It works okay for both irssi and xchat.
>> so i was wanting too use it as we use fred alex and so on.
>> To ryan:
>> for 6 month ago you could not use flightgear as a blind person you  
>> can
>> today.
>> Nothing is impossible the impossible things just takes more time:)
>>
>> /sandi
>>  now On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I figured out what needs to be done. I'm willing to let anyone who
>>> wants into the project I've started to do this. Just E-mail me at: 
>>> asquare...@gmail.com
>>> . I have done research on doing tis.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7-Mar-09, at 11:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>

 Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have  
 my
 DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional
 packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
 On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look  
> in
> to
> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with
> the
> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
> /sandi
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>
>>
>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue
>> here.
>> We
>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier
>> for
>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>
>> Greg
>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Greg agree.
>>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the  
>>> voices
>>> are
>>> selected.
>>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices  
>>> can
>>> be
>>> added so can espeak:)
>>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute
>>> rule
>>> or
>>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at
>>> least.
>>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>>> point ?
>>> /sandi
>>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>

 I vote for making them native voices.

 On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi all.
> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used  
> as
> the
> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done
> about
> it.
> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
> voice
> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
> /sandi
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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RE: latest spam

2009-03-07 Thread Cara Quinn

   Listers, please don't reply to this on the list.

   I'm sending this here now so that you and everyone else knows now  
that I've not only already taken care of this, but that I'll be  
changing settings in the background to hopefully prevent this sort of  
thing from happening again.

   As well, I've reported the spammer to Google.

   so, please, in future, if you have suggestions / thoughts for me,  
in regard to the list operation / policy and such, please please  
please email me off-list.

   My job as a mod here is to make things happen behind the scenes so  
to speak, so be aware that you're not always going to know when I've  
taken care of something like this.
, and by replying to this note on-list, without trimming it, (as I've  
done below) you're actually proliferating this spam as well,  because  
rather than making it stop, it's showing up again with your post as  
well.  Know what I mean?

   So please bare this in mind.  This matter is in-hand, and as I  
said, you can feel free to write me off-list at any time if you feel  
something isn't being dealt with the way you'd like, K?…

   Thanks for reading, All, and my apologies for the spam.  There was  
no way to know about this one in advance, and as I said, measures are  
already being taken.

   Have a terrific weekend!…

Smiles,

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Umm, MODERATOR!  Could we please cut these spammers off the list?

Muchas gracias
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Vague posts -was- Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Cara Quinn

   Alex, I've said this before, these one-liners clutter the list much  
more than any content you'd post.

   So, what I'm saying here, to be clear, is rather than post a one  
line note about what you're doing or planning to do without either  
including any content or asking outright for specific assistance, do  
either say in real terms what you're doing, by showing the list some  
actual content, or pose a clear request either to the list for  
specific assistance with what you're doing.

   Otherwise you're simply using bandwidth without contributing.

   I'm saying this to be clear, as I'd really like to see this  
behavior change without my having to come up with some ridiculous list  
rule about such, K?…  

   So this is just a friendly reminder not only to you, but to the  
list as a whole, to please have some consideration for other listers.   
Said simply, don't post unless you have something helpful / useful to  
share with everyone.  If we all do this then the list will really run  
smoothly and we won't accidentally be stepping on eachother's toes.  - 
Make sense?…

   Thanks for taking time to read, and I wish you all a lovely weekend!…

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On Mar 7, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


Hi,

It isn't closeness, just unclutterness of the list.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 28-Feb-09, at 11:39 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:

>
> hi.
> Alex how about you just tell us all what you have done instead of all
> that closeness?
> sounds like a better approach:)
> espeak is another open speech which you can sortta use with mac as it
> is.
> When i say like i do it's cause... you can use it with irc like tail-f
> -n1 filename|speak -s 300 and your irc-client speaks.
> It works okay for both irssi and xchat.
> so i was wanting too use it as we use fred alex and so on.
> To ryan:
> for 6 month ago you could not use flightgear as a blind person you can
> today.
> Nothing is impossible the impossible things just takes more time:)
>
> /sandi
>  now On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I figured out what needs to be done. I'm willing to let anyone who
>> wants into the project I've started to do this. Just E-mail me at: 
>> asquare...@gmail.com
>> . I have done research on doing tis.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 7-Mar-09, at 11:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have my
>>> DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional
>>> packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
>>> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
 I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look in
 to
 what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with
 the
 mac book air, but i can be wrong.
 /sandi

 On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue
> here.
> We
> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier
> for
> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in the
> developer tools that come with the mac.
>
> Greg
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Greg agree.
>> But my main problem so far have been to find out where the voices
>> are
>> selected.
>> I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices can
>> be
>> added so can espeak:)
>> of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute
>> rule
>> or
>> so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at
>> least.
>> Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
>> point ?
>> /sandi
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I vote for making them native voices.
>>>
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 hi all.
 For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used as
 the
 default voice on the mac so well can it ?
 I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done
 about
 it.
 I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the voiceover
 voice
 selection or 2 make a hack around it.
 But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
 /sandi


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>


>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>>>
>
>
>>





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vo curser jumping, cut within finder, and selecting multiple items

2009-03-07 Thread Jason Custer

Hello,

I have a cuple questions.
First, I notice that when I am in some applications, My VoiceOver  
curser jumps to controls against my will so to speak. Example: Tube- 
tv, the progress window, While looking at the progress of a download,  
The vo cursor jumps to the cancel button.
How can I prevent this?
Second, Why can I copy files in finder, command+c, but not cut them  
command+x. As it stands, I have to copy my file(s), which takes longer  
than just moving them, then go back and delete them. Alternatively, I  
go to terminal and use mv. Suggestions?

Last question, this one is easier. How do I select multiple items, in  
finder for example, that are not next to eachother? For example, in a,  
b, c, d, e, How do I select b, d, e?

Thank you for your assistance.
Jason Custer 

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Re: vo curser jumping, cut within finder, and selecting multiple items

2009-03-07 Thread James Dietz

2. There is no "move" function as far as I know. Someone made an
automator action to simulate this. Apple tends to remove functionality
found elsewhere (a "stop" button in iTunes for instance).
3. I forget the command, but I have it reassigned to numpad 5 in the
VO utility. It's called "begin/end selection" or something. Try that
when interacting w/ VO cursor; start selecting, highlight one thing,
stop, move to next w/vo (probably without cursor tracking on) and
start and stop when you please.

James

On 3/7/09, Jason Custer  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a cuple questions.
> First, I notice that when I am in some applications, My VoiceOver
> curser jumps to controls against my will so to speak. Example: Tube-
> tv, the progress window, While looking at the progress of a download,
> The vo cursor jumps to the cancel button.
> How can I prevent this?
> Second, Why can I copy files in finder, command+c, but not cut them
> command+x. As it stands, I have to copy my file(s), which takes longer
> than just moving them, then go back and delete them. Alternatively, I
> go to terminal and use mv. Suggestions?
>
> Last question, this one is easier. How do I select multiple items, in
> finder for example, that are not next to eachother? For example, in a,
> b, c, d, e, How do I select b, d, e?
>
> Thank you for your assistance.
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Re: espeak on mac?

2009-03-07 Thread Alex Jurgensen

Hi,

I am writing this now in full, smiley, after Cara got on my case about  
it. I was in a rush earlier. I appologize. Here are the details.

ISpeak, a project to port the eSpeak speech engine natively to the Mac  
is kicking off this month. Hosted by VIPBC.org, the project will allow  
the eSpeak voices to be used in all speech enabled applications  
including Voiceover.

All people who are interested in participating are asked to keep an  
eye on http://www.vipbc.org/ . Below is a list of possible jobs that  
need filling.

Jobs:
- Perl programmer
- OBJ-C programmer
- Packager/Installer creator
- Documentationalist
- Issue Tracker

Such positions are open for most open-source AWEBSIGHT/ICE VIPBC.org  
projects.



Thanks,
Alex,


On 7-Mar-09, at 5:27 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:

>
> will this project allow e speak to be used with voice over?
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The opensource project ISpeak will hit the net on March 17. Keep  
>> tuned
>> in to VIPBC.org for the details. This is the project I am speaking  
>> of.
>> I invite anyone to join the project. All research will be posted for
>> the enjoyment of all participants, but as I said, stay tuned.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alex,
>>
>>
>> On 28-Feb-09, at 11:39 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> hi.
>>> Alex how about you just tell us all what you have done instead of  
>>> all
>>> that closeness?
>>> sounds like a better approach:)
>>> espeak is another open speech which you can sortta use with mac as  
>>> it
>>> is.
>>> When i say like i do it's cause... you can use it with irc like
>>> tail-f
>>> -n1 filename|speak -s 300 and your irc-client speaks.
>>> It works okay for both irssi and xchat.
>>> so i was wanting too use it as we use fred alex and so on.
>>> To ryan:
>>> for 6 month ago you could not use flightgear as a blind person you
>>> can
>>> today.
>>> Nothing is impossible the impossible things just takes more time:)
>>>
>>> /sandi
>>> now On Mar 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>>

 Hi,

 I figured out what needs to be done. I'm willing to let anyone who
 wants into the project I've started to do this. Just E-mail me  
 at: asquare...@gmail.com
 . I have done research on doing tis.

 Thanks,
 Alex,


 On 7-Mar-09, at 11:39 AM, Scott Howell wrote:

>
> Yep, there is a package on I believe the second DVD. I dont' have
> my
> DVD handy, but I think it is in a folder called extras or optional
> packages. You'll know it when you encounter it.
> On Feb 28, 2009, at 10:59 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Greg thank you for your answer")
>> I was not aware i had any devtools with my mac. will go and look
>> in
>> to
>> what i got with the mini. I am nearly sure i did not get any with
>> the
>> mac book air, but i can be wrong.
>> /sandi
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2009, at 10:09 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We looked into it at Curtin but had to stop do to other issue
>>> here.
>>> We
>>> did not get very far. The basic process is to make a sysnsisier
>>> for
>>> each vendor of voices. There is sample code for doing this in  
>>> the
>>> developer tools that come with the mac.
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:27 PM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>>>

 Greg agree.
 But my main problem so far have been to find out where the
 voices
 are
 selected.
 I dont doubt i will find a way to make it work If ivox voices
 can
 be
 added so can espeak:)
 of course we would have too live with the 370 words pr minute
 rule
 or
 so i think but that ought too be fast enough for a start at
 least.
 Greg was it not you who actually tried making it native at some
 point ?
 /sandi
 On Mar 7, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:

>
> I vote for making them native voices.
>
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:37 AM, sandi sørensen wrote:
>
>>
>> hi all.
>> For some days ago some one asked  me if espeak could be used
>> as
>> the
>> default voice on the mac so well can it ?
>> I am considering looking in too it to see what can be done
>> about
>> it.
>> I can see too ways 1 make it natively show up in the  
>> voiceover
>> voice
>> selection or 2 make a hack around it.
>> But before i do alot of things  any ideas?
>> /sandi
>>
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