Re: XFCE

[Anders F Björklund]

James Linder wrote:

>> "In general, application bugs should be reported to the developers of the 
>> app (?upstream?), not MacPorts."
>> But I think it's safe to say that no-one* is running Xfce on Darwin/XQuartz, 
>> so this is Terra Incognita...
>> 
>> Anyway, the bug tracker is: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/
>> 
>> * the jury is still out on "why would anyone want to do that", even though 
>> it "should" still be possible.
>> For most normal users, something like VirtualBSD would probably be a better 
>> option. Or at least packages.
>> 
>> See http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbsd.html
> 
> Pierre to add to comments above 
> I?m a great fan of xfce and run that on my many linux machines.
> Ideologically I hate apple, but apple make their hardware and software play 
> together very nicely e.g. bluetooth at boot, e.g. nice sound from their 
> crappy speakers e.g. heat from core sleep vs (hot) heat from core throttle 
> e.g. the wireless on my mac mini is perfect under OS X but rather iffy under 
> any linux distos that I have tried.

Running Darwin only was _always_ painful, and even X11.app isn't included with 
the OS anymore...
So there are not many good options available besides running XQuartz on OS X, 
for that hardware.

> After playing with xfce on the mac mini for a few days the only benefits I 
> could find were having X11 all the time (subtle reasons) and xfce4-terminal. 
> iTerm does a pretty equivalent job.

Actually neither Terminal nor Midori is a part of the default installation of 
Xfce any longer...
You are free to set any terminal emulator or web browser in the "Preferred 
Applications" setting.

http://www.xfce.org/projects
http://www.os-cillation.de/en/open-source-projects/xfce-terminal/
Last release (0.6.3) of this application was done two years ago.
It needed some patches to even show up under FreeBSD and Darwin.

The main "problem" with xfce4-terminal is that it uses the old VTE library from 
GNOME Terminal...
And just like GTK+ (with gtk3), that is now getting more and more 
GNOME-specific in later releases:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=790186

> So I have to conclude that my mac(s) do exactly what I need, that mac ports 
> is the glue that turns this into plain sailing and the xfce port is very 
> interesting, but for me, what?s the point. Clementine (not mac ports) even 
> plays my oggs.

These are the only components remaining in the Xfce core:
xfwm4
xfce4-panel
xfdesktop
xfce4-session
xfce4-settings
xfce4-appfinder
exo
garcon
xfconf
Thunar

The rest are all applications (or dependencies/plugins):
midori
xfce4-terminal
mousepad
orage
ristretto
squeeze

But I can't really see any reasons to run any of them stand-alone, if not 
running a X11 desktop...
Theoretically you could have them running with the Quartz backend of GTK+/GDK, 
and not use X at all.

Though in that case, most people would prefer a native app ?

--anders

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Re: list port with no dependents (was: Re: Remove port)

[Eneko Gotzon]

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Ryan Schmidt 
wrote:

> Finally, you can uninstall the ports you really don't need by using "sudo
> port uninstall leaves".


Note that the uninstallation can mark new ports as leaves.

To uninstall all leaves, you have to repeat the process until the
port echo leaves
command comes back empty.

To simplify this, consider installing the port_cutleaves port and running
sudo port_cutleaves

More info .

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Need A Data Visualization/Graphing Program

[Charles Phillips]

All -This is probably a simple question to answer, but I have not stumbled across the answer yet. I have installed GPredict (satellite tracking program) on a number of Mac computers (starting with my Powerbook G4 and most lately on my Mac Mini and my MacBook Pro) and have been looking for a program that would easily allow me to plot orbital parameters. I follow satellites. Right now I use Numbers for some, and have struggled with Excel. I need a flexible program that allows me to enter some columns of data (perigee, apogee, inclination, etc) and graph them again time of the orbital description (I use Two Line Element sets from the U.S. Air Force). I looked in the "Math" category and have not managed to find anything. MacPorts does not have a way to search for "graphing utilities" that I have found?? I briefly tried to use a neat program called Plot2 that I ran across but I could not get any support. There must be a ported Unix application out there that I just have not run across yet??Charles PhillipsSpaceflight Research, LLCHouston, Texas713-882-4578
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Re: Need A Data Visualization/Graphing Program

[Mitchell Maltenfort]

Install R and its Ggplot2 package?

On Sunday, January 10, 2016, Charles Phillips <
char...@spaceflightresearch.net> wrote:

> All -
>
> This is probably a simple question to answer, but I have not stumbled
> across the answer yet.
>
> I have installed GPredict (satellite tracking program) on a number of Mac
> computers (starting with my Powerbook G4 and most lately on my Mac Mini and
> my MacBook Pro) and have been looking for a program that would easily allow
> me to plot orbital parameters. I follow satellites.
>
> Right now I use Numbers for some, and have struggled with Excel. I need a
> flexible program that allows me to enter some columns of data (perigee,
> apogee, inclination, etc) and graph them again time of the orbital
> description (I use Two Line Element sets from the U.S. Air Force).
>
> I looked in the "Math" category and have not managed to find anything.
> MacPorts does not have a way to search for "graphing utilities" that I have
> found??
>
> I briefly tried to use a neat program called Plot2 that I ran across but I
> could not get any support.
>
> There must be a ported Unix application out there that I just have not run
> across yet??
>
> *Charles Phillips*
> Spaceflight Research, LLC
> Houston, Texas
> 713-882-4578
>


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Re: Need A Data Visualization/Graphing Program

[Brandon Allbery]

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Charles Phillips <
char...@spaceflightresearch.net> wrote:

> looked in the "Math" category and have not managed to find anything.
> MacPorts does not have a way to search for "graphing utilities" that I have
> found??
>
> I briefly tried to use a neat program called Plot2 that I ran across but I
> could not get any support.
>
> There must be a ported Unix application out there that I just have not run
> across yet??
>
"port search plot" shows a bunch of possibilities.

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Re: Need A Data Visualization/Graphing Program

[David Nicholls]

Charles,

I just checked with the programmer and he's happy let wider information out 
about his plotting application, Graf.  It's a proper Mac app, not a macport 
install.  Sorry, no manual at present but the help file is useful: 
miocene.anu.edu.au/Graf 

It's a phenomenal little program, and among many other things makes 
publication-ready PDF plots.

DN

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Australian National University


> On 11 Jan 2016, at 1:57 PM, Charles Phillips 
>  wrote:
> 
> All -
> 
> This is probably a simple question to answer, but I have not stumbled across 
> the answer yet. 
> 
> I have installed GPredict (satellite tracking program) on a number of Mac 
> computers (starting with my Powerbook G4 and most lately on my Mac Mini and 
> my MacBook Pro) and have been looking for a program that would easily allow 
> me to plot orbital parameters. I follow satellites. 
> 
> Right now I use Numbers for some, and have struggled with Excel. I need a 
> flexible program that allows me to enter some columns of data (perigee, 
> apogee, inclination, etc) and graph them again time of the orbital 
> description (I use Two Line Element sets from the U.S. Air Force). 
> 
> I looked in the "Math" category and have not managed to find anything. 
> MacPorts does not have a way to search for "graphing utilities" that I have 
> found?? 
> 
> I briefly tried to use a neat program called Plot2 that I ran across but I 
> could not get any support. 
> 
> There must be a ported Unix application out there that I just have not run 
> across yet??
> 
> Charles Phillips
> Spaceflight Research, LLC
> Houston, Texas
> 713-882-4578
> 
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