using rc1 (was: Re: Question wrt to key board use)
Hellmut Weber schrieb: > > BTW I'm using RC1 now for two weeks without problems ;-) > I'm also using rc1 regularly now, but I repeatedly get bitten by known (and fixed in trunk) crash bugs http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3790, http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3801, http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3809. This is just to ensure that the enthusiasm of some people doesn't leave the wrong impression for other users (or developers). For less adventurous people rc1 is definitely too early to switch IMHO. Otherwise 1.5 is great, as has been stated many times. -sven
Re: Question wrt to key board use
Hellmut Weber wrote: Hi, I'm beginning to use the new TOC with the outlining faetures more often. Absolutely great for me. Questions: 1) Is there a key kombination to switch between the text pane and the TOC pane, if not how can I define one? From TOC to text pane yes: just hit the Tab key. For the opposite, unfortunately not. Please put an enhencement request in bugzilla. 2) (evidently) Is it possible to activate the toc outlining functionality with key combinations? Alt-d o Practically all of the rest I do without using the mouse whcih gives me much more productivity when working with my documents. I agree and I am open to suggestion as to how to make this panel keyboard friendlier. Abdel.
Re: using rc1
Sven Schreiber wrote: Hellmut Weber schrieb: BTW I'm using RC1 now for two weeks without problems ;-) I'm also using rc1 regularly now, but I repeatedly get bitten by known (and fixed in trunk) crash bugs http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3790, http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3801, http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3809. I think these bugs will not show up in RC1 if you disable the "RTL support" option in the Preference->Language Settings->Language option. You might want to do that if you use RC1 for production. You could also compile from trunk or wait for RC2 due this week-end. Abdel.
Re: moving to linux...part3: preferred bibtex editor
2007/6/14, Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Ares wrote: > Here I am back with a new, silly question: what is the most favourite > bibtex editor under GNU/linux? I have been using JabRef under Windows, > but I realised that it runs under the Java Runtime Environment, and I > do not want to install new components if I do not really need them... JabRef seems to be the most popular around here. It runs fine under Linux, but you have to install Sun's JVM, as it won't work under Gnu's. One reason to prefer JabRef is that the developer of BibLaTeX, soon to be the new standard, is paying attention to JabRef. But there are a lot of options, as always with Linux: pybliographer, kbibtex, etc. Then I'll stick to JabRef for now... thanks to all -- Diego http://www.ares001.altervista.org/
Re: using rc1
Abdelrazak Younes schrieb: > Sven Schreiber wrote: >> Hellmut Weber schrieb: >> >>> BTW I'm using RC1 now for two weeks without problems ;-) >>> >> >> I'm also using rc1 regularly now, but I repeatedly get bitten by known >> (and fixed in trunk) crash bugs >> >> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3790, >> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3801, >> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3809. > > I think these bugs will not show up in RC1 if you disable the "RTL > support" option in the Preference->Language Settings->Language option. > You might want to do that if you use RC1 for production. You could also > compile from trunk or wait for RC2 due this week-end. > Very interesting, thank you for the hint! I don't mean to be disrespectful for RTL language users, but maybe disabling that option by default would be safer? (Assuming that the majority of lyx users don't use RTL.) thanks, sven
Re: How to build LyX on Windows
Georg Brandl schrieb: The version number is a bit older while the manifest in LyX's SVN is version="8.0.50727.762" So when you are using an older DLL version than this, it will fail. Ideally the version of the DLLs and the one in the manifest should be identic. I can do this for SVN, but before I want to know if it works when you install LyX using LyXWinInstaller and replace then 1. the lyx.exe with the version you have compiled. Does this work? 2. if 1. fails, replace the msv**80.dll in LyX's bin older with the ones delivered in your MSVC installation. Please report me the results of this test. OK, I'll do further investigation and report. This is what I did to make it finally work (you were fully correct that what I did before was crap): * It seems that the SVN and 1.4.4-5 versions already use the same version of the libraries, so that is no the problem. * Then I looked at resources, and the lyxc.exe included in the 1.4.4-5 installer has an embedded manifest that references the Microsoft.VC80.CRT (?) assembly. My built version doesn't. * So I created a lyxc.exe.manifest identical to the 1.4.4-5's embedded manifest. * This resulted in a slightly different, but just as opaque error message (there is an error in the application configuration). * Finally, I installed the Microsoft VC++ 2005 SP1 redistributable package from download.microsoft.com - and it worked now. Georg -- Thus spake the Lord: Thou shalt indent with four spaces. No more, no less. Four shall be the number of spaces thou shalt indent, and the number of thy indenting shall be four. Eight shalt thou not indent, nor either indent thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to four. Tabs are right out.
Re: using rc1
Sven Schreiber wrote: Abdelrazak Younes schrieb: I think these bugs will not show up in RC1 if you disable the "RTL support" option in the Preference->Language Settings->Language option. Very interesting, thank you for the hint! I don't mean to be disrespectful for RTL language users, but maybe disabling that option by default would be safer? (Assuming that the majority of lyx users don't use RTL.) thanks, sven :) . Actually, we are now experimenting with going in the other direction --- i.e., enabling this option by default --- and we may in the future get rid of the option entirely (i.e., have it always on). So it would be better if (as soon as you're using a version in which the above bugs are fixed) you would switch the RTL option back on, and then let us know if you see anything bad resulting from this: more bugs, slowness (which is solved by turning RTL off), etc. If we see that it really affects non-RTL users adversely, then we will go back to having it off by default. But if it doesn't hurt, we'd rather have it on. Dov
Re: Problem with PDF output with different pdf reader.
Jeremy C. Reed wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, William Adams wrote: Most pdf viewers will maintain a file lock which will prevent the file from being over-written. What ones? I'd guess most LyX users do like I do and create new PDFs continually while their PDF viewer is still open. Some PDF viewers have behaviour to reload updated PDFs automatically (which is just the opposite of forcing a file lock). My experience is with evince, xpdf, epdfview, gv, ggv, gpdf, and others and I don't recall this locking issue. Also how is the file lock done? File locking makes a lot of assumptions and often doesn't work on some systems for some file systems. A reliable way of doing file locking is to create a lock file (a separate dummy file); if that is the case, what is it called? I think they were talking about windows. Windows has a system call API for locking files like this, without creating any special lockfile. People making pdf viewers for windows sometimes uses this API - for some strange unknown reason. Looks like a bug, except that they can't possibly have done that by accident . . . Attempting to google for this topic mostly turns up about PDFs that are protected so others can't view without authenticating. But now I read that Adobe reader locks files. (I don't use Adobe.) So I guess the solution is not to use Adobe :) Yes, good idea. Adobe don't lock files on linux - because linux don't have an API for this kind of lock. There are other reasons for staying away from acrobat though. Helge Hafting
Re: problems with aspell
no error message appear, simply not work!!! bye Filippo - Original Message - From: "Uwe Stöhr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Filippo Ottone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:56 PM Subject: Re: problems with aspell Filippo Ottone schrieb: All dictionary seem not working on my lyx setup. I have installed lyxwininstall 1.5, the setup download english and italian dictionary but they don't work in lyx and no error message appers. what's wrong? You have installed LyX 1.5rc1 from here, right?: http://developer.berlios.de/project/showfiles.php?group_id=5117&release_id=12904 What is the error message you get when you create an English document and start then the spellchecker? regards Uwe
Re: moving to linux... part 2 - tetex package installation
On Wednesday 13 June 2007 10:10:36 Helge Hafting wrote: > Most other distributions use the rpm packaging system. > It is a long time since I used those - one usually had to > download lots of rpm files and then give a command to install > them all. The main difference from the "apt" command above was > that you had to gather the files yourself, and then install all in > one go. rpm would then tell you if anything else was missing, > then you download that and try again until you have all you need. > I have heard that the rpm-based systems also have automatic > downloading these days, simplifying this process. Time passes so this information is outdated. :-) Most rpm distributions have a system that takes care of dependencies automatically. I know at least 3 systems but I know that there are more: apt-get (for rpm), yum and smart(rpm). > Helge Hafting -- José Abílio
Re: Problem with PDF output with different pdf reader.
There are other reasons for staying away from acrobat though. Really? What reasons? Just asking because I've been using Acrobat's Pro versions for some time now without problems.
Re: Problem with PDF output with different pdf reader.
Christian Liesen wrote: There are other reasons for staying away from acrobat though. Really? What reasons? Just asking because I've been using Acrobat's Pro versions for some time now without problems. Acrobat certainly isn't useless, but have some problems: * On linux, support only for i386. This means it is hard to install on common 64-bit setups, and unuseable on other less common processors otherwise supported by linux. Open source pdf viewers are generally available for all processors. * It makes a mess of bitmap fonts, to the point where people are advised against using bitmap fonts in PDF's, because the acrobat reader is so common. Of course vector fonts are better anyway. xpdf doesn't have this problem. * Acrobat is not good at reloading a changed pdf. On windows, this technique for fast work is blocked by acrobat locking the file. Linux don't support such locks but that don't help - acrobat instead crashes if the file is changed under it. Other viewers either reloads the changed file automatically, or at least offers a reload hotkey/button. The workaround seems to be closing acrobat and restart it every time. Acrobat may work well for you - but I wouldn't recommend it to a new user. Helge Hafting
Re: Problem with PDF output with different pdf reader.
On Friday 15 June 2007 08:36, Helge Hafting wrote: > Acrobat certainly isn't useless, but have some problems: Precisely why I use Acrobat Reader: I don't want to create a PDF which does not work properly with the reader most people use. I performed the necessary convolutions to get it to work on my x86_64 Linux machine, and when using it to view Lyx output I just close it each time. -- Les ~~ Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
Math book tips?
Hi all, I'm writing an introductory algebra book, meant to teach without a teacher, meant to be easy to learn for kids 12-16. It's been my impression that traditional textbooks try to make the material seem complex so as to require a teacher, so that the school will order it (what school would order something that would put them out of business). So in a way, my book is diametrically opposed to math textbooks, yet I also want to benefit from literally generations of math teaching and writing, which is why I use the AMS Book document class. I know a lot of you have written math books, so please, please, give me all the tips you can on writing a math book. I can't guarantee I'll do everything suggested, but I sure would like to be aware of the possibilities. One of the first things I've wondered about is book structure. Traditional math textbooks seem to break down to chapters, and within each chapter are several lessons, each with its own questions, exercises and the like. In my book I'm considering having each lesson be its own chapter, in an effort to make short, simple units. I'm trying very hard to have the book come in under 200 pages, maybe even under 100 pages. If the book goes long, I might make it into 2 books if I can find a way to divide the material. I figure with, let's say, a 120 page book, if I had 20 chapters each 6 pages long, that wouldn't be excessive, and it would give the learner a clear indication of how he/she is doing. Once again, I'm looking for any tips on writing a math book -- any tips at all. If you've written a math book and have a cool way of doing stuff, please do tell. If you've read math books and have a pet peeve, please tell me that too. I'm hoping to start the actual authoring in about a week, and would like to have the book's riffs defined by that time. Thanks SteveT Steve Litt Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Re: Problem with PDF output with different pdf reader.
Les Denham wrote: On Friday 15 June 2007 08:36, Helge Hafting wrote: Acrobat certainly isn't useless, but have some problems: Precisely why I use Acrobat Reader: I don't want to create a PDF which does not work properly with the reader most people use. I performed the necessary convolutions to get it to work on my x86_64 Linux machine, and when using it to view Lyx output I just close it each time. That's very annoying, though, and wastes time. The better policy, it seems to me, is to use Acrobat only at the very last stage, when you need to make sure the document will work with it. rh -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto
Re[2]: moving to linux...part3: preferred bibtex editor
On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Richard Heck apparently wrote: > BibLaTeX, soon to be the new standard Can you provide the background for this claim? (I am not challenging it.) Thank you, Alan Isaac
Re: moving to linux...part3: preferred bibtex editor
Alan G Isaac wrote: On Thu, 14 Jun 2007, Richard Heck apparently wrote: BibLaTeX, soon to be the new standard Can you provide the background for this claim? It's based upon my sense of the enthusiasm that BibLaTeX has generated on comp.text.tex. There really are a lot of problems with BibTeX, as useful as it can surely be. One problem is that defining custom formats is a nightmare for most people, because the language in which bst files are written is very difficult. I learned it and can use it, but it's not for the sane, and there's no way for ordinary users to achieve the levels of customization they want. Second, the machinery for defining citation formats and the like is even worse. There is absolutely no way for an ordinary users to define a new citation format. Certainly natbib and jurabib offer a lot of options, but the latter is extremely complex, and even then it's not always possible to get what you want. The great promise of BibLaTeX is that it will solve these problems. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of Philosophy Brown University http://frege.brown.edu/heck/ == Get my public key from http://sks.keyserver.penguin.de Hash: 0x1DE91F1E66FFBDEC Learn how to sign your email using Thunderbird and GnuPG at: http://dudu.dyn.2-h.org/nist/gpg-enigmail-howto
Re: problems with aspell
Filippo Ottone schrieb: no error message appear, simply not work!!! Hmm, then I could not help you other than to recommend to reinstall LyX again. Uninstall LyX and also Aspell before reinstalling. Uninstall also the aspell dictionaries, assure that you have also no rests of perhaps previously installed Aspell versions. After you have uninstalled the stuff, check furthermore the geistry that there are no Aspell related settings. I hope this then works. regards Uwe
Re: Figure Latex error
Thanks a lot guys, all my problems are solved now ;)
Re: Help to make the given table in Lyx
Hi, Did you get this resolved? Your posting came through with no formatting to speak of, which may be why nobody has responded (at least to the list). /Paul Tariq Abdullah wrote: Hi, I want to make a table like this in Lyx, by using Lyx table option. Can anybody help me how to do this? Java based Development Platform Text 1 Text 2 Text3 Text 4 Text 5 Text 6 Text 7 Text 8 Text 9 Text 0 Row1 Row2 Regards, Tariq Abdullah Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
LyX errors when View->Postscript
But it works just fine when I: lyx --export mybook.lyx latex mybook.tex dvips -o mybook.ps mybook.tex I've had this problem in several of my books, and just used a script to compile them, but now I want to solve the problem so that I can View->Postscript. It seems to have nothing to do with my document class -- it happens in AMS book, book and my modified AMS book. It sometimes doesn't happen if I run LyX "a certain way", but of course as of now I don't know exactly what that way is. Can someone help me decipher the following error message issued by View->Postscript: ERROR: /syntaxerrorESP Ghostscript 815.03: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 in -file- Operand stack: Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push Dictionary stack: --dict:1121/1686(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:102/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Current file position is 1
Re: LyX errors when View->Postscript
Hi all, Turns out the symptom happened when I ran LyX from the background instead of from a terminal. I do that in my UMENU menu system. I took out the background attribute to cure the View->Postscript problem, but now my UMENU terminal hangs around until the LyX session is closed. I'd still like to understand how to interpret the error message. Thanks SteveT On Friday 15 June 2007 17:49, Steve Litt wrote: > But it works just fine when I: > > lyx --export mybook.lyx > latex mybook.tex > dvips -o mybook.ps mybook.tex > > I've had this problem in several of my books, and just used a script to > compile them, but now I want to solve the problem so that I can > View->Postscript. > > It seems to have nothing to do with my document class -- it happens in AMS > book, book and my modified AMS book. It sometimes doesn't happen if I run > LyX "a certain way", but of course as of now I don't know exactly what that > way is. > > Can someone help me decipher the following error message issued by > View->Postscript: > > > ERROR: /syntaxerrorESP Ghostscript 815.03: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 > in -file- > Operand stack: > > Execution stack: >%interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- > --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- > --nostringval-- false 1 %stopped_push 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 3 > %oparray_pop 1 3 %oparray_pop 1 > 3 %oparray_pop .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- > --nostringval-- 2 %stopped_push > Dictionary stack: >--dict:1121/1686(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:102/200(L)-- > Current allocation mode is local > Current file position is 1
Re: Math book tips?
On Fri, 2007-06-15 at 11:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm writing an introductory algebra book, meant to teach without a teacher, > meant to be easy to learn for kids 12-16. It's been my impression that > traditional textbooks try to make the material seem complex so as to require > a teacher, so that the school will order it (what school would order > something that would put them out of business). First let me commend your aspirations! I was a very good mathematics pupil at school, then later was a teacher at secondary school level for 19 years. My main subjects were Latin and French, but as I had qualifications in maths at University level, I was dragooned into teaching maths as well to pupils up to the age of 17 years. I found maths very easy to teach (compared with Latin and French) and I was successful as a maths teacher. But in all that time, whether as a pupil, a student, or a teacher I NEVER once found a maths text book which I understood. I would read the book in vain, then a few words and an example from the teacher, and comprehension was instant. So my comments are: 1. Your book will have to be different from any I have read. 2. The teaching style which works for me is: a. Some background on why this topic is good, fun, interesting, a challenge, or possibly even useful. The book Mathematics for the Millions is good at this (you know: Egyptians needing to mark off their fields after the Nile floods has erased their boundary markers etc.) b. A worked example. (In the classroom, they copy this down.) c. Some explanation of how or why the example worked. (This seems back to front to most people, giving the example then the explanation. But it always worked for me.) Keep it short and punchy. d. Similar problems for them to do, progressively getting more difficult. My training college days taught me that 6 drills of anything was enough to consolidate learning, any more produced boredom. e. Some sort of quick quiz which allows you or them to gauge whether the concepts have been picked up. 3. On reflection, most maths books are impenetrable because they go from the general to the particular. My belief is that paedagogically the reverse works better: Use a concrete example as an introduction to an abstract concept. Incidentally I share your enthusiasm for LyX. I regard it as the best piece of software ever written (along with the Unix kernel, C language, Korn shell, and Prolog). regards John O'Gorman > > So in a way, my book is diametrically opposed to math textbooks, yet I also > want to benefit from literally generations of math teaching and writing, > which is why I use the AMS Book document class.
Re: moving to linux...part3: preferred bibtex editor: Zotero
Is there maybe someone here in lyx community
who has the knowledge and is interested to
make that work (and probably many scientists happy)?
If it can put a format like \cite{...} to clipboard,
I have a patch to make lyx paste such kind of strings
as a citation. It's not identical as the push, but I
prefers this way more.
If you need I can give you my patch. But you have to
patch the source code and compile your own version.
You can also find the patch at lyx-devel list.
Hangzai
Re: Math book tips?
> 1. Your book will have to be different from any I have read. Correct, otherwise there is no point in writing the book. > 3. On reflection, most maths books are impenetrable because they go from > the general to the particular. My belief is that paedagogically the > reverse works better: Use a concrete example as an introduction to an > abstract concept. Very good suggestion. Let me add 4. Answer the question "why". "Why should I care what 2x+3x is?" 5. Make it stick together. Many books seem to not be concerned with that and chapter N+1 is very little connected to chapter N. This is most likeley for books that covers many topics, but I think this point is important.
