Re: Lubuntu 14 && U-MATE 15 installer issues [PPC]

[Peter Golis]

Hello Fritz,
You had talked about issue with network, and you know how to activate b43legacy 
driver. To confirm it you had provided random log, from X Window System 
(graphics) where is no error reported.
 
I cannot understood your sense of humor.
 
P.
 
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Od: Fritz Hudnut 
Komu: Peter Golis 
Dátum: 17.05.2015 03:33
Predmet: Re: Lubuntu 14 && U-MATE 15 installer issues [PPC]

CC: "lubuntu user list"

@Peter, etal:

Got the /var/log/Xorg.0.log   uploaded to paste.ubuntu . . . doesn't seem to be 
showing anything too obvious to me that would explain why X is not loading . . 
. .    I looked through 8000 lines of /var/log/kern.log . . . nothing seemed to 
be worth looking through there, plus it's 8000 lines long.

Any other logs you would want to see?

http://paste.ubuntu.com/11176522 

F

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Fritz Hudnut > wrote:
@Peter:

Thanks, I'll be back shortly . . . whenever I can get a TTY to open . . . .

F

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:57 PM, Peter Golis > wrote:
Hello Fritz,
If you get that errors 20 times in a row, then you have clear way how to 
reproduce it and also information about evidence (logs). That was what I had 
asked several times, but nothing was provided.

If you will have it, then come back please.

P.


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Re: Lubuntu 14 && U-MATE 15 installer issues [PPC]

[Fritz Hudnut]

@Peter:

Yes, my sense of humor is very sophisticated . . . very dry . . . .  But,
in this case I'm not using it very well . . . or the joke is on me . . . .
However, I'm not sure that you understand how broken this system is . . .
sometimes I can boot the system and get to a TTY and others times not--due
to kernel dump/freezes.  So, it's not like I have time to mess with you,
the system is messing with me, and, then I'm using what is very limited CLI
knowledge to try to do commands that will either fix the problems or
provide data that might be helpful to others . . . such as yourself.  My
time is very valuable to me and this isn't really funny to me . . . it
should be that since PPC machines have stood still technologically for the
last ten years that the knowledge of what is needed to run them should be
very clear--but nothing seems to be further from what is happening with
powerpc development, given the evidence presented with this install of
15.04 PPC.

Yesterday I posted my situation on the Ubuntu-MATE forum and a few hours
later I got a reply from Martin Winpress, who seems to be the lead on the
ubuntu + MATE team . . . and he said, "There are serious big endian
problems with Xorg 1.7, check with G+ to see how other PPC users are using
Xorg 1.6 . . . . "


So, that tells me that there are "big endian" problems with the system . .
. and, that seems to be including some issues with the installer, as well
as the installed system--whereas the live DVD appeared to be "OK."

Back to our conversation, first thing, "apport" was **not** installed with
the system, and I spent some hours trying to find a similar bug or figure
out exactly what is happening so that I could "file" about it . . . .  Is
this a "syslinux" problem?  Crash?  Or, problem with a "package"??
Actually all of the above.  So, taking time to again figure out that each
time the system is booted the ethernet connection is again "broken" and has
to be "restarted" and then messing around trying to get a TTY to show up I
installed "python-apport" and "pastebinit" while I was at it.  Then I tried
to "apport-collect" to a bug number . . . .that attempt failed because
there is no GUI to open Firefox.  It is a "known issue" that wifi is not
included, and also, no sound.  A new "error" listed pre-splash was
"build/buildd/linux-3.19.0/drivers/rtc/hctosys.c: unable to open rtc device
(rtc0)   Along with the "i2c" error that showed up in 14.04, but which
didn't seem to interfere with running the system, perhaps relating to no
sound?

Then I spent further time trying to find data on which "logs" would be
helpful, because actually you didn't name any, you just requested
"evidence" . . . .  And, then I tried a test run of pastebinit to upload
what looked like the smallest log, but one which multiple forum sites were
requesting from people, the Xorg.0.log . . . .  Which unfortunately didn't
seem to show much, but I chose it rather than looking through 8000 lines of
the other log, the kern.log . . . didn't seem to be any obvious errors
there either, but is huge.  Again, I asked you what files/logs you would
want to see, but you instead have chosen to comment about my "sense of
humor."

Much of this stuff I have also repeated, but I'm stating it again.  1.
Problems with manual installer  2. GUI gets to splash, then "freezes"  3.
Once the GUI freezes TTY will not open  4.  Booting into Single user will
also crash or screen goes black  5.  If TTY can be opened from single user
then "dependency" problems are breaking the ethernet connection  6.
Upgrading to new kernel (post 5/8/15 download) . . . did **not** fix any of
the fore-going problems . . . .  7.  It now appears to be known that there
are "big endian problems with Xorg 1.7"  8.  Xorg.0.log  did not provide
any evidence to any of these Big endian problems with Xorg 1.7.

F

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Peter Golis  wrote:

> Hello Fritz,
>
> You had talked about issue with network, and you know how to activate
> b43legacy driver. To confirm it you had provided random log, from X Window
> System (graphics) where is no error reported.
>
>
>
> I cannot understood your sense of humor.
>
>
>
> P.
>
>
>
> __
> > Od: Fritz Hudnut 
> > Komu: Peter Golis 
> > Dátum: 17.05.2015 03:33
> > Predmet: Re: Lubuntu 14 && U-MATE 15 installer issues [PPC]
> >
>
> > CC: "lubuntu user list"
>   @Peter, etal:
>
>  Got the /var/log/Xorg.0.log   uploaded to paste.ubuntu . . . doesn't seem
> to be showing anything too obvious to me that would explain why X is not
> loading . . . .I looked through 8000 lines of /var/log/kern.log . . .
> nothing seemed to be worth looking through there, plus it's 8000 lines long.
>
> Any other logs you would want to see?
>
>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/11176522
>
>  F
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Fritz Hudnut 
> wrote:
>
>>  @Peter:
>>
>>  Thanks, I'll be back shortly . . . whenever I can get a TTY to open . .
>> . .
>>
>>