Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Phill. Whiteside]

The alternates have been pulled.

Nio / Walter / Julien. Do we release with over size for 14.04.3 and say
it needs DVD / USB or no release at all?

I'm minded to allow 14.04.3 out with the proviso it is solely dvd / usb
based and people needing CD can use an earlier version and simply update.

Not sure how long we have for a discussion Does the red bug become grey.

Just my thoughts,

Phill.

On 5 August 2015 at 22:06, Simon Quigley  wrote:

> I am running the alternate Lubuntu 14.04.3 install .iso right now and
> I don't see any errors...I will keep you posted if it works completely
> fine...
>
> Thanks,
> Simon Quigley
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Walter Lapchynski]

It's too bad we haven't heard from Julien as my bet is that this is easily
fixed. That being said, assuming we don't, it best that we do release
rather than not release at all, so I vote for the DVD/USB only.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Phill. Whiteside  wrote:

> The alternates have been pulled.
>
> Nio / Walter / Julien. Do we release with over size for 14.04.3 and
> say it needs DVD / USB or no release at all?
>
> I'm minded to allow 14.04.3 out with the proviso it is solely dvd / usb
> based and people needing CD can use an earlier version and simply update.
>
> Not sure how long we have for a discussion Does the red bug become
> grey.
>
> Just my thoughts,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 5 August 2015 at 22:06, Simon Quigley  wrote:
>
>> I am running the alternate Lubuntu 14.04.3 install .iso right now and
>> I don't see any errors...I will keep you posted if it works completely
>> fine...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Simon Quigley
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Walter Lapchynski]

For anyone that wants to help track this down I'm working on it at
#ubuntu-release. The last commit to our seed is what caused the problem:

https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty/revision/296

Unfortunately, the problem is not obvious.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:

> It's too bad we haven't heard from Julien as my bet is that this is easily
> fixed. That being said, assuming we don't, it best that we do release
> rather than not release at all, so I vote for the DVD/USB only.
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Phill. Whiteside 
> wrote:
>
>> The alternates have been pulled.
>>
>> Nio / Walter / Julien. Do we release with over size for 14.04.3 and
>> say it needs DVD / USB or no release at all?
>>
>> I'm minded to allow 14.04.3 out with the proviso it is solely dvd / usb
>> based and people needing CD can use an earlier version and simply update.
>>
>> Not sure how long we have for a discussion Does the red bug become
>> grey.
>>
>> Just my thoughts,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>> On 5 August 2015 at 22:06, Simon Quigley  wrote:
>>
>>> I am running the alternate Lubuntu 14.04.3 install .iso right now and
>>> I don't see any errors...I will keep you posted if it works completely
>>> fine...
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Simon Quigley
>>>
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[Lubuntu-qa] free PPC machines

[Walter Lapchynski]

I've got multiple PPC machines that I'm willing to donate to folks that are
interested in testing with them, including a PowerMac G5. First come, first
serve. Send me an email if you want them!

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] free PPC machines

[Herminio Hernandez Jr.]

What models do you have?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:09 PM, Walter Lapchynski  wrote:
> 
> I've got multiple PPC machines that I'm willing to donate to folks that are 
> interested in testing with them, including a PowerMac G5. First come, first 
> serve. Send me an email if you want them!
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Nio Wiklund]

+1

It is best that we do release rather than not release at all, so I vote
for the DVD/USB only.

I can mark the bugs grey.

Best regards
Nio

Den 2015-08-06 18:43, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
> It's too bad we haven't heard from Julien as my bet is that this is
> easily fixed. That being said, assuming we don't, it best that we do
> release rather than not release at all, so I vote for the DVD/USB only. 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Phill. Whiteside  > wrote:
> 
> The alternates have been pulled.
> 
> Nio / Walter / Julien. Do we release with over size for 14.04.3
> and say it needs DVD / USB or no release at all?
> 
> I'm minded to allow 14.04.3 out with the proviso it is solely dvd /
> usb based and people needing CD can use an earlier version and
> simply update.
> 
> Not sure how long we have for a discussion Does the red bug
> become grey.
> 
> Just my thoughts,
> 
> Phill.
> 
> On 5 August 2015 at 22:06, Simon Quigley  > wrote:
> 
> I am running the alternate Lubuntu 14.04.3 install .iso right
> now and
> I don't see any errors...I will keep you posted if it works
> completely
> fine...
> 
> Thanks,
> Simon Quigley
> 
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[Lubuntu-qa] Lack of Lubuntu package testcases for wily

[Simon Quigley]

I recently started doing QA for Lubuntu, and I have noticed that not
many people(none at this point in time for that matter) do the package
QA testing. I took to the #lubuntu-devel IRC and wxl suggested that I
send this email.

There is a lack of individuals working on QA package testing for
Lubuntu. Now, I am a teen and since my parents are divorced, and my
wily machine is at my mother's apartment, I wouldn't mind some help so
we can make this move along the testing for wily.

The link is here:
http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/341/builds/95070/testcases

Have a nice day,
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Walter Lapchynski]

I marked it as ready, so we're good. Melodie also pointed out we could
always suggest people do 800MB CDs. You may be able to overburn it but the
amd64 is 27MB over so I'm thinking not.

Going forward, we may want to look at removing extra languages from the
[desktop seed][1]:
 # must have
 * Languages: en es de fr ru pt it pl ja nl xh cs
 * language-pack-${Languages}
 * language-pack-gnome-${Languages}

Enough room on amd64 armel i386, not enough on powerpc:
 * Languages: zh-hans hu bn sv ar fi hi el ca da hi
 * language-pack-${Languages} [!powerpc]
 * language-pack-gnome-${Languages} [!powerpc]

Thoughts?

[1]:
https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty/view/head:/ship

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund  wrote:

> Den 2015-08-06 19:15, Israel skrev:
> > On 08/05/2015 04:01 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> >> Den 2015-08-05 12:46, Nio Wiklund skrev:
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> Dear Lubuntu testers and users,
> >>
> >> Added information about Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS: The alternate installer
> >> does not work and will not be supplied for this point version. The
> >> desktop installer is oversized for CD. There may or may not be time to
> >> get it within CD size, but we are close to the deadline, I looked into
> >> an alternative for really old computers, that boot from CD disks (but
> >> not from DVD disks or USB drives).
> >>
> >> I could install Lubuntu within CD size using the current mini.iso file
> >>
> >> 1. This general link seems to work now in order to find and download the
> >> Ubuntu mini.iso files
> >>
> >> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/
> >>
> >> Select an architecture to install 14.04 with vivid's 3.19 HWE kernel
> >> (supported until August 2016), Index of
> >>
> >>
> /ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/vivid-netboot
> >>
> >> with this md5sum
> >>
> >> a5156887b51e5e523a099bc255274c85  ./vivid-netboot/mini.iso
> >>
> >> 2. Install a very basic system (no packages selected within the
> >> mini.iso's installer.
> >>
> >> 3. Reboot into text mode and install Lubuntu
> >>
> >> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
> >>
> >> 4. Reboot and you have Lubuntu.
> >>
> >> I found one hickup: The nm-applet (network manager's indicator on the
> >> panel) has no icon, but if you click on the 'empty' space between the
> >> keyboard symbol and the clock, you get the relevant menus. And the
> >> network works (no pun intended) :-)
> >>
> >> This is not as easy as the alternate installer, but it is not too
> difficult.
> >>
> >> *. On the other hand, it might be better to start from the alternate
> >> installer of Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and update/dist-upgrade to get up to
> >> date program packages including security patches. This will not get the
> >> vivid kernel, but the stay with the trusty kernel. The trusty kernel is
> >> probably at least as good as the vivid one for such old hardware, so I
> >> would recommend starting from Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and staying with the
> >> trusty kernel 3.13.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Nio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Hi Nio,
> > isn't there a tasksel option for Lubuntu?
> >
> > Another option would be to preseed the mini with a url.  I did this some
> > time ago with debian and mate on PPC.  It worked well and was fairly
> > painless... though Debian is a bit more complicated than Ubuntu for new
> > non-technical users to use from the mini install.
> >
> > That seems like the 'best' way to make it easy for users.
>
> Hi Israel,
>
> You are probably right. I did what I'm used to, but it might be easier
> to select Lubuntu via the menu in the mini installer (I guess that is
> the 'tasksel' option).
>
> Best regards
> Nio
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lack of Lubuntu package testcases for wily

[Walter Lapchynski]

I agree this is an important thing that should be done. I know that Brendan
has done this stuff, so he would be a good person to connect with. If
anyone else wants to pick up on this, it would be most appreciated!!!

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Simon Quigley 
wrote:

> I recently started doing QA for Lubuntu, and I have noticed that not
> many people(none at this point in time for that matter) do the package
> QA testing. I took to the #lubuntu-devel IRC and wxl suggested that I
> send this email.
>
> There is a lack of individuals working on QA package testing for
> Lubuntu. Now, I am a teen and since my parents are divorced, and my
> wily machine is at my mother's apartment, I wouldn't mind some help so
> we can make this move along the testing for wily.
>
> The link is here:
>
> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/341/builds/95070/testcases
>
> Have a nice day,
> Simon Quigley
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Julien Lavergne]

If you are short in space, do not hesitate to remove langpack to reduce the
size. It's the best short term option. They should be ordered by popcon on
the seed.

I'm still curious to know how a point release can suddenly be oversize ...

Regards,
Julien Lavergne
Le 6 août 2015 7:51 PM, "Walter Lapchynski"  a écrit :

> I marked it as ready, so we're good. Melodie also pointed out we could
> always suggest people do 800MB CDs. You may be able to overburn it but the
> amd64 is 27MB over so I'm thinking not.
>
> Going forward, we may want to look at removing extra languages from the
> [desktop seed][1]:
>  # must have
>  * Languages: en es de fr ru pt it pl ja nl xh cs
>  * language-pack-${Languages}
>  * language-pack-gnome-${Languages}
>
> Enough room on amd64 armel i386, not enough on powerpc:
>  * Languages: zh-hans hu bn sv ar fi hi el ca da hi
>  * language-pack-${Languages} [!powerpc]
>  * language-pack-gnome-${Languages} [!powerpc]
>
> Thoughts?
>
> [1]:
> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty/view/head:/ship
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund 
> wrote:
>
>> Den 2015-08-06 19:15, Israel skrev:
>> > On 08/05/2015 04:01 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>> >> Den 2015-08-05 12:46, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>> >>> ...
>> >>>
>> >> Dear Lubuntu testers and users,
>> >>
>> >> Added information about Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS: The alternate installer
>> >> does not work and will not be supplied for this point version. The
>> >> desktop installer is oversized for CD. There may or may not be time to
>> >> get it within CD size, but we are close to the deadline, I looked into
>> >> an alternative for really old computers, that boot from CD disks (but
>> >> not from DVD disks or USB drives).
>> >>
>> >> I could install Lubuntu within CD size using the current mini.iso file
>> >>
>> >> 1. This general link seems to work now in order to find and download
>> the
>> >> Ubuntu mini.iso files
>> >>
>> >> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/
>> >>
>> >> Select an architecture to install 14.04 with vivid's 3.19 HWE kernel
>> >> (supported until August 2016), Index of
>> >>
>> >>
>> /ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/vivid-netboot
>> >>
>> >> with this md5sum
>> >>
>> >> a5156887b51e5e523a099bc255274c85  ./vivid-netboot/mini.iso
>> >>
>> >> 2. Install a very basic system (no packages selected within the
>> >> mini.iso's installer.
>> >>
>> >> 3. Reboot into text mode and install Lubuntu
>> >>
>> >> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
>> >>
>> >> 4. Reboot and you have Lubuntu.
>> >>
>> >> I found one hickup: The nm-applet (network manager's indicator on the
>> >> panel) has no icon, but if you click on the 'empty' space between the
>> >> keyboard symbol and the clock, you get the relevant menus. And the
>> >> network works (no pun intended) :-)
>> >>
>> >> This is not as easy as the alternate installer, but it is not too
>> difficult.
>> >>
>> >> *. On the other hand, it might be better to start from the alternate
>> >> installer of Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and update/dist-upgrade to get up to
>> >> date program packages including security patches. This will not get the
>> >> vivid kernel, but the stay with the trusty kernel. The trusty kernel is
>> >> probably at least as good as the vivid one for such old hardware, so I
>> >> would recommend starting from Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and staying with the
>> >> trusty kernel 3.13.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Best regards
>> >> Nio
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Hi Nio,
>> > isn't there a tasksel option for Lubuntu?
>> >
>> > Another option would be to preseed the mini with a url.  I did this some
>> > time ago with debian and mate on PPC.  It worked well and was fairly
>> > painless... though Debian is a bit more complicated than Ubuntu for new
>> > non-technical users to use from the mini install.
>> >
>> > That seems like the 'best' way to make it easy for users.
>>
>> Hi Israel,
>>
>> You are probably right. I did what I'm used to, but it might be easier
>> to select Lubuntu via the menu in the mini installer (I guess that is
>> the 'tasksel' option).
>>
>> Best regards
>> Nio
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Nio Wiklund]

Is there a list, or can you make a list with packages and sizes. It
would make it possible to select in a more informed way which packages
to remove to get within CD size.

My native language is Swedish. I would not be happy if it is removed,
but I realize that it is a small language, so I accept it, if there is
no better alternative.

One alternative is to have a pop-up window, that offers languages in a
convenient way during the installation (it needs internet connection of
course).

Another alternative is to have a lean version of Lubuntu, maybe similar
to Lubuntu-Core or something between Lubuntu and Lubuntu-Core. And only
this lean version need be within CD size.

Best regards
Nio


Den 2015-08-06 19:51, Walter Lapchynski skrev:
> I marked it as ready, so we're good. Melodie also pointed out we could
> always suggest people do 800MB CDs. You may be able to overburn it but
> the amd64 is 27MB over so I'm thinking not.
> 
> Going forward, we may want to look at removing extra languages from the
> [desktop seed][1]:
>  # must have
>  * Languages: en es de fr ru pt it pl ja nl xh cs
>  * language-pack-${Languages}
>  * language-pack-gnome-${Languages}
> 
> Enough room on amd64 armel i386, not enough on powerpc:
>  * Languages: zh-hans hu bn sv ar fi hi el ca da hi
>  * language-pack-${Languages} [!powerpc]
>  * language-pack-gnome-${Languages} [!powerpc]
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> [1]:
> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty/view/head:/ship
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund  > wrote:
> 
> Den 2015-08-06 19:15, Israel skrev:
> > On 08/05/2015 04:01 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> >> Den 2015-08-05 12:46, Nio Wiklund skrev:
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >> Dear Lubuntu testers and users,
> >>
> >> Added information about Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS: The alternate installer
> >> does not work and will not be supplied for this point version. The
> >> desktop installer is oversized for CD. There may or may not be
> time to
> >> get it within CD size, but we are close to the deadline, I looked
> into
> >> an alternative for really old computers, that boot from CD disks (but
> >> not from DVD disks or USB drives).
> >>
> >> I could install Lubuntu within CD size using the current mini.iso
> file
> >>
> >> 1. This general link seems to work now in order to find and
> download the
> >> Ubuntu mini.iso files
> >>
> >> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/
> >>
> >> Select an architecture to install 14.04 with vivid's 3.19 HWE kernel
> >> (supported until August 2016), Index of
> >>
> >>
> 
> /ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/vivid-netboot
> >>
> >> with this md5sum
> >>
> >> a5156887b51e5e523a099bc255274c85  ./vivid-netboot/mini.iso
> >>
> >> 2. Install a very basic system (no packages selected within the
> >> mini.iso's installer.
> >>
> >> 3. Reboot into text mode and install Lubuntu
> >>
> >> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
> >>
> >> 4. Reboot and you have Lubuntu.
> >>
> >> I found one hickup: The nm-applet (network manager's indicator on the
> >> panel) has no icon, but if you click on the 'empty' space between the
> >> keyboard symbol and the clock, you get the relevant menus. And the
> >> network works (no pun intended) :-)
> >>
> >> This is not as easy as the alternate installer, but it is not too
> difficult.
> >>
> >> *. On the other hand, it might be better to start from the alternate
> >> installer of Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and update/dist-upgrade to get up to
> >> date program packages including security patches. This will not
> get the
> >> vivid kernel, but the stay with the trusty kernel. The trusty
> kernel is
> >> probably at least as good as the vivid one for such old hardware,
> so I
> >> would recommend starting from Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and staying
> with the
> >> trusty kernel 3.13.
> >>
> >>
> >> Best regards
> >> Nio
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Hi Nio,
> > isn't there a tasksel option for Lubuntu?
> >
> > Another option would be to preseed the mini with a url.  I did
> this some
> > time ago with debian and mate on PPC.  It worked well and was fairly
> > painless... though Debian is a bit more complicated than Ubuntu
> for new
> > non-technical users to use from the mini install.
> >
> > That seems like the 'best' way to make it easy for users.
> 
> Hi Israel,
> 
> You are probably right. I did what I'm used to, but it might be easier
> to select Lubuntu via the menu in the mini installer (I guess that is
> the 'tasksel' option).
> 
> Best regards
> Nio
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Walter Lapchynski]

Well, I already marked it as ready since this is release day. I'm not sure
we have enough time, honestly.

Apparently the change from lts-utopic to lts-vivid must have added on a
bunch of kernel updates. That's my best guess, at least.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> If you are short in space, do not hesitate to remove langpack to reduce
> the size. It's the best short term option. They should be ordered by popcon
> on the seed.
>
> I'm still curious to know how a point release can suddenly be oversize ...
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> Le 6 août 2015 7:51 PM, "Walter Lapchynski"  a écrit :
>
>> I marked it as ready, so we're good. Melodie also pointed out we could
>> always suggest people do 800MB CDs. You may be able to overburn it but the
>> amd64 is 27MB over so I'm thinking not.
>>
>> Going forward, we may want to look at removing extra languages from the
>> [desktop seed][1]:
>>  # must have
>>  * Languages: en es de fr ru pt it pl ja nl xh cs
>>  * language-pack-${Languages}
>>  * language-pack-gnome-${Languages}
>>
>> Enough room on amd64 armel i386, not enough on powerpc:
>>  * Languages: zh-hans hu bn sv ar fi hi el ca da hi
>>  * language-pack-${Languages} [!powerpc]
>>  * language-pack-gnome-${Languages} [!powerpc]
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> [1]:
>> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty/view/head:/ship
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Den 2015-08-06 19:15, Israel skrev:
>>> > On 08/05/2015 04:01 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>>> >> Den 2015-08-05 12:46, Nio Wiklund skrev:
>>> >>> ...
>>> >>>
>>> >> Dear Lubuntu testers and users,
>>> >>
>>> >> Added information about Lubuntu 14.04.3 LTS: The alternate installer
>>> >> does not work and will not be supplied for this point version. The
>>> >> desktop installer is oversized for CD. There may or may not be time to
>>> >> get it within CD size, but we are close to the deadline, I looked into
>>> >> an alternative for really old computers, that boot from CD disks (but
>>> >> not from DVD disks or USB drives).
>>> >>
>>> >> I could install Lubuntu within CD size using the current mini.iso file
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. This general link seems to work now in order to find and download
>>> the
>>> >> Ubuntu mini.iso files
>>> >>
>>> >> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/
>>> >>
>>> >> Select an architecture to install 14.04 with vivid's 3.19 HWE kernel
>>> >> (supported until August 2016), Index of
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> /ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/vivid-netboot
>>> >>
>>> >> with this md5sum
>>> >>
>>> >> a5156887b51e5e523a099bc255274c85  ./vivid-netboot/mini.iso
>>> >>
>>> >> 2. Install a very basic system (no packages selected within the
>>> >> mini.iso's installer.
>>> >>
>>> >> 3. Reboot into text mode and install Lubuntu
>>> >>
>>> >> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
>>> >>
>>> >> 4. Reboot and you have Lubuntu.
>>> >>
>>> >> I found one hickup: The nm-applet (network manager's indicator on the
>>> >> panel) has no icon, but if you click on the 'empty' space between the
>>> >> keyboard symbol and the clock, you get the relevant menus. And the
>>> >> network works (no pun intended) :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> This is not as easy as the alternate installer, but it is not too
>>> difficult.
>>> >>
>>> >> *. On the other hand, it might be better to start from the alternate
>>> >> installer of Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and update/dist-upgrade to get up to
>>> >> date program packages including security patches. This will not get
>>> the
>>> >> vivid kernel, but the stay with the trusty kernel. The trusty kernel
>>> is
>>> >> probably at least as good as the vivid one for such old hardware, so I
>>> >> would recommend starting from Lubuntu 14.04.1 LTS and staying with the
>>> >> trusty kernel 3.13.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Best regards
>>> >> Nio
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> > Hi Nio,
>>> > isn't there a tasksel option for Lubuntu?
>>> >
>>> > Another option would be to preseed the mini with a url.  I did this
>>> some
>>> > time ago with debian and mate on PPC.  It worked well and was fairly
>>> > painless... though Debian is a bit more complicated than Ubuntu for new
>>> > non-technical users to use from the mini install.
>>> >
>>> > That seems like the 'best' way to make it easy for users.
>>>
>>> Hi Israel,
>>>
>>> You are probably right. I did what I'm used to, but it might be easier
>>> to select Lubuntu via the menu in the mini installer (I guess that is
>>> the 'tasksel' option).
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Nio
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Ubuntu Membership Board & LoCo Council Member
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>>
>


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] the current version of Lubuntu trusty-desktop-i386.iso

[Nio Wiklund]

The kernel of each new version gets bigger, and I guess the hardware
drivers too. This can push the size over the CD threshold ...

Den 2015-08-06 19:57, Julien Lavergne skrev:
> If you are short in space, do not hesitate to remove langpack to reduce
> the size. It's the best short term option. They should be ordered by
> popcon on the seed.
> 
> I'm still curious to know how a point release can suddenly be oversize ...
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
> Le 6 août 2015 7:51 PM, "Walter Lapchynski"  > a écrit :
> 
> I marked it as ready, so we're good. Melodie also pointed out we
> could always suggest people do 800MB CDs. You may be able to
> overburn it but the amd64 is 27MB over so I'm thinking not.
> 
> Going forward, we may want to look at removing extra languages from
> the [desktop seed][1]:
>  # must have
>  * Languages: en es de fr ru pt it pl ja nl xh cs
>  * language-pack-${Languages}
>  * language-pack-gnome-${Languages}
> 
> Enough room on amd64 armel i386, not enough on powerpc:
>  * Languages: zh-hans hu bn sv ar fi hi el ca da hi
>  * language-pack-${Languages} [!powerpc]
>  * language-pack-gnome-${Languages} [!powerpc]
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> [1]:
> 
> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty/view/head:/ship
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Nio Wiklund  > wrote:
> 


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