Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu for kernels with a PAE flag
Just for the records: we aren't sure if a non-pae kernel will be helpful - but as we want to support older pc's, it could be worth trying. It is perfectly fine if you start polls in the non-german boards. I will roll out a kernel for testing later this day. Jörn -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu for kernels with a PAE flag
On 2013-10-18 09:26, Joern wrote: > Just for the records: we aren't sure if a non-pae kernel will be helpful - > but as we want to support older pc's, it could be worth trying. > > It is perfectly fine if you start polls in the non-german boards. I will roll > out a kernel for testing later this day. > > Jörn > Hi Jörn, What kernel will it be? Version number, compatible with what version of the Ubuntu family, and will you compile it yourself? Have you found anything about Pentium III without PAE? What I find indicates that all PIIIs have PAE (if they are working according to the specifications). Best regards Nio -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 is Released !!
Since the new release of 13.10 I have one problem: my netbook AC100 Toshiba does not connect to any wifi anymore. The ssid is displayed but it just won't connect. Is there a workaround? Gustav Lennart Voigt Am 18 Oct 2013 um 08:06 schrieb Aere Greenway : > On 10/17/2013 11:59 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: >> If you really need high speed for music, then there is a low-latency version >> of the kernel that comes with ubuntu-studio http://ubuntustudio.org/ >> , I'd suggest that you have a try with that. All of the 13.10's have got the >> various new kernels. IIRC, they ship the low latency one that is tuned for >> such work. > Phill: > > I test all of the Ubuntu variants. UbuntuStudio was already next on the list. > > -- > Sincerely, > Aere > > > -- > Lubuntu-users mailing list > lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu for kernels with a PAE flag
The most recent kernel from Saucy, just changing from PAE to non-PAE. It should be compatible with all versions, and I'll host it at Launchpad. So it won't be compiled by myself. Am 18.10.2013 um 09:48 schrieb Nio Wiklund : > On 2013-10-18 09:26, Joern wrote: >> Just for the records: we aren't sure if a non-pae kernel will be helpful - >> but as we want to support older pc's, it could be worth trying. >> >> It is perfectly fine if you start polls in the non-german boards. I will >> roll out a kernel for testing later this day. >> >> Jörn > Hi Jörn, > > What kernel will it be? Version number, compatible with what version of > the Ubuntu family, and will you compile it yourself? > > Have you found anything about Pentium III without PAE? What I find > indicates that all PIIIs have PAE (if they are working according to the > specifications). > > Best regards > Nio -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu for kernels with a PAE flag
Hi again Jörn, I guess it means that the kernel will have SMP, which is good :-) Can you change from PAE to non-PAE without compiling (just patching), or is someone else compiling it (in that case, who or what organisation)? I'm asking because I'm really interested. Best regards Nio On 2013-10-18 10:14, Joern wrote: > The most recent kernel from Saucy, just changing from PAE to non-PAE. It > should be compatible with all versions, and I'll host it at Launchpad. So it > won't be compiled by myself. > > Am 18.10.2013 um 09:48 schrieb Nio Wiklund : > >> On 2013-10-18 09:26, Joern wrote: >>> Just for the records: we aren't sure if a non-pae kernel will be helpful - >>> but as we want to support older pc's, it could be worth trying. >>> >>> It is perfectly fine if you start polls in the non-german boards. I will >>> roll out a kernel for testing later this day. >>> >>> Jörn >> Hi Jörn, >> >> What kernel will it be? Version number, compatible with what version of >> the Ubuntu family, and will you compile it yourself? >> >> Have you found anything about Pentium III without PAE? What I find >> indicates that all PIIIs have PAE (if they are working according to the >> specifications). >> >> Best regards >> Nio -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-comms] Lubuntu 13.10 is Released !!
On 2013-10-18 07:26, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 10/17/2013 09:38 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: >> Hi, >> >> we are proud to announce the release of Lubuntu 13.10 (Saucy >> Salamander). Please do release notes before installing! >> >> Head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu for >> details on the release and where to get hold of it. >> >> Many thanks to everyone on all the teams who ensured that 13.10 is our >> best release yet! >> >> Regards, >> >> Phill. >> >> -- >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw >> >> > All: > > I have put Lubuntu 13.10 on three of my test machines so far: > > 1. HP Vectra 450 megahertz 512 meg RAM > 2. HP 933 mehahertz, 512 meg RAM > 3. Dell GX-240 1.7 gigahertz, 1 gig RAM > > I have put it through my MIDI music testing on all three machines, and > it is working flawlessly. > > Best of all, this is the first Linux system I have yet seen, where it > doesn't hang if you accidentally try to use the Java Sound Synthesizer > while JACK (qjackctl) is running. Not only that, but you can actually > play music on the Java Sound Synthesizer while JACK is running - it > actually co-exists! > > Seeing that, I checked if the Flash Player plug-in co-exists with JACK, > but it unfortunately does not. Of course, it didn't co-exist before > (without special manual configuration changes). > > I have not experienced a single hang on this system. This is immensly > better than the beta-test version (which was hanging in all sorts of > situations). > > Many thanks to the developers and testers of Lubuntu 13.10 - this is > great! > > I will continue testing. > > -- > Sincerely, > Aere > > > Hi! I have found that the regression of the Intel graphics in my old IMB Thinkcentre is fixed in the released version of Lubuntu 13.10. I think it was fixed after beta 2. So the bad rendering of the default lubuntu wallpaper, 'jagged' contours, as you wrote Aere, is not there. I was really happy to find that it looks good again :-) Maybe it was solved when John's issue was solved (it was solved, wasn't it)? Best regards Nio -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu for kernels with a PAE flag
Yes, the kernel will have SMP support like the official kernels. It needs recompiling, which will happen on the build farm of Canonical. Any other questions? I would love to host the PF-Kernel, which is really awesome, but I am not able to package it. You can get more informations at pf.natalenko.name or just google it - there was a article on WebUpd8 if I remember correct. Maybe I should try to get in touch with the kernel team, so that someone could help me with the packaging issues Jörn Am 18.10.2013 um 10:28 schrieb Nio Wiklund : > Hi again Jörn, > > I guess it means that the kernel will have SMP, which is good :-) > > Can you change from PAE to non-PAE without compiling (just patching), or > is someone else compiling it (in that case, who or what organisation)? > I'm asking because I'm really interested. > > Best regards > Nio > > On 2013-10-18 10:14, Joern wrote: >> The most recent kernel from Saucy, just changing from PAE to non-PAE. It >> should be compatible with all versions, and I'll host it at Launchpad. So it >> won't be compiled by myself. >> >> Am 18.10.2013 um 09:48 schrieb Nio Wiklund : >> >>> On 2013-10-18 09:26, Joern wrote: Just for the records: we aren't sure if a non-pae kernel will be helpful - but as we want to support older pc's, it could be worth trying. It is perfectly fine if you start polls in the non-german boards. I will roll out a kernel for testing later this day. Jörn >>> Hi Jörn, >>> >>> What kernel will it be? Version number, compatible with what version of >>> the Ubuntu family, and will you compile it yourself? >>> >>> Have you found anything about Pentium III without PAE? What I find >>> indicates that all PIIIs have PAE (if they are working according to the >>> specifications). >>> >>> Best regards >>> Nio > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu for kernels with a PAE flag
Many thanks for this information :-) Nio On 2013-10-18 10:39, Joern wrote: > Yes, the kernel will have SMP support like the official kernels. It needs > recompiling, which will happen on the build farm of Canonical. Any other > questions? > > I would love to host the PF-Kernel, which is really awesome, but I am not > able to package it. You can get more informations at pf.natalenko.name or > just google it - there was a article on WebUpd8 if I remember correct. > > Maybe I should try to get in touch with the kernel team, so that someone > could help me with the packaging issues > > Jörn > > > Am 18.10.2013 um 10:28 schrieb Nio Wiklund : > >> Hi again Jörn, >> >> I guess it means that the kernel will have SMP, which is good :-) >> >> Can you change from PAE to non-PAE without compiling (just patching), or >> is someone else compiling it (in that case, who or what organisation)? >> I'm asking because I'm really interested. >> >> Best regards >> Nio >> >> On 2013-10-18 10:14, Joern wrote: >>> The most recent kernel from Saucy, just changing from PAE to non-PAE. It >>> should be compatible with all versions, and I'll host it at Launchpad. So >>> it won't be compiled by myself. >>> >>> Am 18.10.2013 um 09:48 schrieb Nio Wiklund : >>> On 2013-10-18 09:26, Joern wrote: > Just for the records: we aren't sure if a non-pae kernel will be helpful > - but as we want to support older pc's, it could be worth trying. > > It is perfectly fine if you start polls in the non-german boards. I will > roll out a kernel for testing later this day. > > Jörn Hi Jörn, What kernel will it be? Version number, compatible with what version of the Ubuntu family, and will you compile it yourself? Have you found anything about Pentium III without PAE? What I find indicates that all PIIIs have PAE (if they are working according to the specifications). Best regards Nio >> -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] [Lubuntu-comms] Lubuntu 13.10 is Released !!
Congratulations to all the Lubuntu team that made 13.10 possible. Question once I was not able to test the final release yet: could anybody reproduce the following behaviour quoted from Webup8 article? " - XScreensaver has been removed (LightDM is now used for screen locking but there's a pretty serious bug here unless I'm missing something: if you switch to TTY7 after locking the screen - using Ctrl + Alt + 7 -, you can access the desktop without having to unlock the screen so without having to enter any password!); " Article: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/10/see-whats-new-in-1310-release-of.html Congrats to all again! Best regards, Iberê 2013/10/18 Nio Wiklund > On 2013-10-18 07:26, Aere Greenway wrote: > > On 10/17/2013 09:38 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> we are proud to announce the release of Lubuntu 13.10 (Saucy > >> Salamander). Please do release notes before installing! > >> > >> Head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu for > >> details on the release and where to get hold of it. > >> > >> Many thanks to everyone on all the teams who ensured that 13.10 is our > >> best release yet! > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Phill. > >> > >> -- > >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > >> > >> > > All: > > > > I have put Lubuntu 13.10 on three of my test machines so far: > > > > 1. HP Vectra 450 megahertz 512 meg RAM > > 2. HP 933 mehahertz, 512 meg RAM > > 3. Dell GX-240 1.7 gigahertz, 1 gig RAM > > > > I have put it through my MIDI music testing on all three machines, and > > it is working flawlessly. > > > > Best of all, this is the first Linux system I have yet seen, where it > > doesn't hang if you accidentally try to use the Java Sound Synthesizer > > while JACK (qjackctl) is running. Not only that, but you can actually > > play music on the Java Sound Synthesizer while JACK is running - it > > actually co-exists! > > > > Seeing that, I checked if the Flash Player plug-in co-exists with JACK, > > but it unfortunately does not. Of course, it didn't co-exist before > > (without special manual configuration changes). > > > > I have not experienced a single hang on this system. This is immensly > > better than the beta-test version (which was hanging in all sorts of > > situations). > > > > Many thanks to the developers and testers of Lubuntu 13.10 - this is > > great! > > > > I will continue testing. > > > > -- > > Sincerely, > > Aere > > > > > > > Hi! > > I have found that the regression of the Intel graphics in my old IMB > Thinkcentre is fixed in the released version of Lubuntu 13.10. I think > it was fixed after beta 2. So the bad rendering of the default lubuntu > wallpaper, 'jagged' contours, as you wrote Aere, is not there. I was > really happy to find that it looks good again :-) > > Maybe it was solved when John's issue was solved (it was solved, wasn't > it)? > > Best regards > Nio > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu for kernels without a PAE flag
On 2013-10-18 14:11, JM wrote: > On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:39:31 +0200 > Nio Wiklund wrote: > >> Hi Mélodie, > > Hi Nio, > > >> 1. You have started with your French thread. Let us hope there will be >> clear answers to it! > > > One answer but no information yet. > > >> 2. Maybe, but I'm not sure, Phill is right, that we must focus on one >> single method that should fit for most newcomers. So I suggest that the >> next step for you is to test the following methods (in a dedicated >> computer or a virtual machine). When you have tested them, you have a >> much better possibility to take part in a decision what we should focus >> on (one or maybe two methods), and then if improvements are necessary >> >> - improved scripts >> - new or improved help texts (for example wiki pages) >> - publicity to attact new users ... > > > Let's see. > > > >> 3. I think that all these methods, that work for non-PAE kernels, are >> actually suitable for all old and middle-aged computers for dedicated >> single boot systems. (Dual boot makes things more complicated, and in >> the case of MacOS, Windows 8 and UEFI much more complicated.) >> >> Mörgæes's method and the 'grub-n-iso' method work for dual booting too, >> but not with UEFI. >> >> I think the 'installed system' and One Button Installer are very simple >> to use and likely to succeed, and they make an installed system directly >> instead of creating an installed system like the ordinary installers do. >> It is more like flashing the operating system of a mobile phone. But the >> methods are different from standard installers, which might confuse users. >> >> Here is the list again (you recognize it from an earlier mail). At the >> moment there are at least four ways to install systems with fake-PAE, >> described indirectly by >> >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE >> >> a. The method by Mörgæs at >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE >> >> b. Grub-n-iso >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grub-n-iso >> >> c. Installed system >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstalledSystemFakePAE >> >> d. One Button Installer >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2172971 >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw/OBI > > > I tell you what is lacking : for each method presented, a description of the > type of case > the method is meant for would be most welcome. Provided that some of the > methods may fit > better "for a single boot on single hard drive", or "single boot on a machine > having two > hard drives", and so on... a description of the type of case it fits best > would help > picking up one. You don't know what descriptions there are before you have read the documentation at those links. I mean that you need to read the existing documents before saying what is lacking. I think a lot of information is already available, but it needs to be concentrated or put into some kind of hierachy (for example a wiki page with sub-pages). And before doing that we have to find out or decide, what we really think about the different methods. It is hard to do that alone, particularly for a person who made one of the systems. I understand what I have made and find it very simple. Even if it is, the description is not detailed enough for a newcomer. If you and someone else ask questions or even write the description/manual, it will probably be much better for newcomers. > Prior would be providing the people a clear way to find out first, if they > have a machine > which needs fake-pae to use the one Ubuntu distro X Y Z (X Y and Z need to be > described, > such as "from Ubuntu 12.10 and up, including Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu > Studio... > and so on... ") > > The number of possibilities don't bother me: just a way to pick the most > relevant is > needed (the people who arrived up to the page or the doc are not dumb, and > even when they > are new comers they more or less well know how to ask help on the forums when > they don't > have a LUG close to their place, but there need to be a start to rely on: the > cases, or > examples of cases, or both cases and examples... ) I agree to most of this, but I don't understand LUG, what is that? >> *. How to install image files: Reverse the way they were created, in the >> case of 'my' img.gz and img.xz files, there is help using the >> shell-script 'mkusb' from >> >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 >> >> Or directly like this >> >> sudo -s # enter superuser prompt >> zcat dd-sdb.img.gz | dd bs=4096 of=/dev/sdx >> sync# and wait for the command prompt >> exit# exit superuser prompt >> >> and for xz compressed files substitute the zcat line by >> >> xzcat dd-sdb.img.xz | dd bs=4096 of=/dev/sdx >> >> But beware, dd is nick-named 'disk destroyer'! It does what you tell it >> to do without questions. If you tell it to do something else than you >> intended to do, you might wipe a system, that is not backed up. This is >> why I
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] One Button Installer improved with dialog menus and xz compression
Nio, worked like a charm on my Dell C400 with 13.04 tarball. Do you plan to release a dd image (or a tarball for lubuntu 13.10 too? Thanks! F. 2013/10/14 Aere Greenway : > On 10/13/2013 05:27 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote: > > Hi, > > The OBI has taken the step from [pre]version 0.7 to version 1.0: > > 1. The dialogue has been improved by using screens made with the linux > program dialog. It means a menu style similar to that of the alternate > installer and the mini.iso. See the attached pictures. Feedback from > several persons made me understand, that the previous interface was not > good enough for the majority of computer users, so this was necessary. > There are still some rough edges, but the basic usage should be easier > and more appealing now. And in the near future I intend to remove the > rough edges (that I am aware of). > > 2. The compression of the dd-image files and the tarballs is improved. > The original compression was using gzip. It is still available, but now > xz compression is also available, and xz compression is more than 20% > more efficient, often 30% (meaning that the size of the compressed file > is 20-30% smaller than a gzipped file). xz is slower and needs more > memory, but not too much. During a test with low RAM, 128 MB, extracting > the tarball with xz used 62 MB while extracting with gzip used 49 GB. > Downloading is usually the bottleneck, so small files are preferred. > > The default compression for making an own tarball is using gzip. In the > present version 1.0, you must run mktbl from the bash shell to create an > xz tarball, which is one of the rough edges. > > See this link > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw/OBI > > Best regards > Nio > > > > Nio: > > That looks good. > > The warnings are more than adequate, which is a good thing. > > -- > Sincerely, > Aere > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 keyboard layout handler working again
I had earlier reported problems with the keyboard layout handler (I have physically latam keyboard, with ñ) with spanish, us english and norwegian as options. Now it is working again, but I had to remove it first and then reinstall. Kjetil -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 keyboard layout handler working again
Hi Kjetll, for 13.10 keyboard support has been upgraded. Please do try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard#Keyboard_mapping_for_13.10_and_beyond and do please report back how you get on :) Thanks, Phill On 18 October 2013 20:18, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I had earlier reported problems with the keyboard layout handler > (I have physically latam keyboard, with ñ) with spanish, us english > and norwegian as options. > > Now it is working again, but I had to remove it first and then reinstall. > > Kjetil > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa Post to : lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
