Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-19 Thread Lars Noodén
On 09/18/2013 11:09 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> An update,
> 
> the kernel boots okay and when stressed with swap does not crash. The next
> step will be to make an ISO with it in and see if it does, indeed, squish
> the bug. The kernel team are on the case and we will be asked to help test
> an ISO at some point in the (hopefully near) future.
> 
> Thanks everyone for the input and testing on this. Weird crashes leaving no
> trace are the hardest to track down.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Phill.

I tried that kernel today:

Linux lubuntu 3.11.0-7-generic #14~lp1227202v1 SMP
Wed Sep 18 16:02:47 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

Unfortunately the system still managed to freeze up when I launched an
app a few minutes ago.  Plugging and unplugging USB devices has not had
an effect.  I think you might be the only one to be able to do it on
demand with that Zynga thing.

I will be trying Leszek Lesner's suggestion with zram for the rest of
the day:

sudo swapoff /dev/zram0
sudo swapoff /dev/zram1
sudo rmmod zram

But it will probably take until tomorrow to be sure, unless it freezes
first.

Regards,
/Lars


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.10 beta

2013-09-19 Thread Nio Wiklund
On 2013-09-19 14:10, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 09/18/2013 11:09 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>> An update,
>>
>> the kernel boots okay and when stressed with swap does not crash. The next
>> step will be to make an ISO with it in and see if it does, indeed, squish
>> the bug. The kernel team are on the case and we will be asked to help test
>> an ISO at some point in the (hopefully near) future.
>>
>> Thanks everyone for the input and testing on this. Weird crashes leaving no
>> trace are the hardest to track down.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
> 
> I tried that kernel today:
> 
>   Linux lubuntu 3.11.0-7-generic #14~lp1227202v1 SMP
>   Wed Sep 18 16:02:47 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> Unfortunately the system still managed to freeze up when I launched an
> app a few minutes ago.  Plugging and unplugging USB devices has not had
> an effect.  I think you might be the only one to be able to do it on
> demand with that Zynga thing.
> 
> I will be trying Leszek Lesner's suggestion with zram for the rest of
> the day:
> 
>   sudo swapoff /dev/zram0
>   sudo swapoff /dev/zram1
>   sudo rmmod zram
> 
> But it will probably take until tomorrow to be sure, unless it freezes
> first.
> 
> Regards,
> /Lars
> 
> 

Hi Lars,

I have tested the kernel

'Linux lubuntu 3.11.0-7-generic #14~lp1227202v1 SMP'

last night and this morning. I tested it as an installed system running
in my Toshiba giving it only 384 MB RAM. I alternated between this
kernel and the default one. I made it swap, for example running some
youtube video. Then if I installed something with apt-get, I often had
freezes with the default kernel but never with the #14~lp1227202v1 kernel.

You result contradicts my result, and it is stronger, because I cannot
guarantee, that there will be no freeze in the future.

I noticed a significant improvement with the bug-fix in the
#14~lp1227202v1 kernel, but maybe there is also some other problem
causing the computer to freeze. This problem might or might not be
related to zRAM, and that can be explored testing when the zRAM is
switched off.

Best regards
Nio

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[Lubuntu-qa] Final Beta

2013-09-19 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi,

a slight change of plan... The freeze for the Final Beta is still this
evening (European time) 19th Sept, but the Final Beta will be built on
Monday evening (European time) 23rd Sept for testing. See[1] for more exact
timings for the Lubuntu builds. The release of the Final Beta is still the
evening (European time) on Thursday 26th Sept.

Or, the build on Friday *should* go forward to be the Final Beta, but the
release team are reserving the right to deal with any bugs that land over
the weekend to try and reduce the need for re-spins once testing begins in
earnest. Please do try the ISO's out over the weekend.

Keep calm and keep testing!

Regards,

Phill.
1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#When_do_they_build.3F
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Final Beta

2013-09-19 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hello Lubuntu QA Team,

Phill is incorrect about the freeze date, the Beta 2 freeze ONLY (UIFreeze
and DocStringFreeze is in effect) shall happen on Monday. See
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2013-September/001059.htmlfor
details.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
Ubuntu QA Tester


2013/9/19 Phill Whiteside 

> Hi,
>
> a slight change of plan... The freeze for the Final Beta is still this
> evening (European time) 19th Sept, but the Final Beta will be built on
> Monday evening (European time) 23rd Sept for testing. See[1] for more exact
> timings for the Lubuntu builds. The release of the Final Beta is still the
> evening (European time) on Thursday 26th Sept.
>
> Or, the build on Friday *should* go forward to be the Final Beta, but the
> release team are reserving the right to deal with any bugs that land over
> the weekend to try and reduce the need for re-spins once testing begins in
> earnest. Please do try the ISO's out over the weekend.
>
> Keep calm and keep testing!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
> 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#When_do_they_build.3F
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Final Beta

2013-09-19 Thread Phill Whiteside
Well spotted Howard,

that comes of reading two sets of emails about freezes!

Regards,

Phill.
PS. the request to test over the weekend still stands!


On 19 September 2013 16:50, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:

> Hello Lubuntu QA Team,
>
> Phill is incorrect about the freeze date, the Beta 2 freeze ONLY (UIFreeze
> and DocStringFreeze is in effect) shall happen on Monday. See
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2013-September/001059.htmlfor
>  details.
>
> Regards,
> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
> Ubuntu QA Tester
>
>
> 2013/9/19 Phill Whiteside 
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> a slight change of plan... The freeze for the Final Beta is still this
>> evening (European time) 19th Sept, but the Final Beta will be built on
>> Monday evening (European time) 23rd Sept for testing. See[1] for more exact
>> timings for the Lubuntu builds. The release of the Final Beta is still the
>> evening (European time) on Thursday 26th Sept.
>>
>> Or, the build on Friday *should* go forward to be the Final Beta, but the
>> release team are reserving the right to deal with any bugs that land over
>> the weekend to try and reduce the need for re-spins once testing begins in
>> earnest. Please do try the ISO's out over the weekend.
>>
>> Keep calm and keep testing!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>> 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#When_do_they_build.3F
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Final Beta

2013-09-19 Thread Phill Whiteside

I can zsync the iso files and start testing, but where should I focus
during this week-end?

- testing in general according to the test cases

- or testing the freezing problem, or should I ask: which kernel do you
want me to test, the standard one or Joseph Salisbury's bug-fixed kernel,

- or should I test for freezing with zRAM switched off, to {find/rule
out} if there might be also some other cause of freezing?


I think for current testing, as we know of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1227202 I don't think
it needs reporting during testing, until we get to the actual Final Beta
testing. We have a work round (either disable zram or reset the machine).
This will allow Joseph to work out where we go next in testing the proposed
fix on an ISO. For anyone who is running 13.10 as 'smoke testing' i.e. day
to day usage, I'd strongly suggest that they use the proposed kernel to see
if solves the 'freeze' problem that is experienced intermittently.

In order to 'keep all the ducks in a row' I include the details of how to
install the test kernel below.

Open LXTerminal

wget
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~jsalisbury/lp1227202/linux-image-3.11.0-7-generic_3.11.0-7.14~lp1227202v1_amd64.deb
wget
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~jsalisbury/lp1227202/linux-image-extra-3.11.0-7-generic_3.11.0-7.14~lp1227202v1_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i linux-image-3.11.0-7-generic_3.11.0-7.14~lp1227202v1_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i
linux-image-extra-3.11.0-7-generic_3.11.0-7.14~lp1227202v1_amd64.deb
reboot

Please note that there is currently only an AMD64 version of this kernel.

Regards,

Phill.



On 19 September 2013 16:58, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Well spotted Howard,
>
> that comes of reading two sets of emails about freezes!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
> PS. the request to test over the weekend still stands!
>
>
> On 19 September 2013 16:50, Ho Wan Chan  wrote:
>
>> Hello Lubuntu QA Team,
>>
>> Phill is incorrect about the freeze date, the Beta 2 freeze ONLY
>> (UIFreeze and DocStringFreeze is in effect) shall happen on Monday. See
>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2013-September/001059.htmlfor
>>  details.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Howard Chan (smartboyhw)
>> Ubuntu QA Tester
>>
>>
>> 2013/9/19 Phill Whiteside 
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> a slight change of plan... The freeze for the Final Beta is still this
>>> evening (European time) 19th Sept, but the Final Beta will be built on
>>> Monday evening (European time) 23rd Sept for testing. See[1] for more exact
>>> timings for the Lubuntu builds. The release of the Final Beta is still the
>>> evening (European time) on Thursday 26th Sept.
>>>
>>> Or, the build on Friday *should* go forward to be the Final Beta, but
>>> the release team are reserving the right to deal with any bugs that land
>>> over the weekend to try and reduce the need for re-spins once testing
>>> begins in earnest. Please do try the ISO's out over the weekend.
>>>
>>> Keep calm and keep testing!
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Phill.
>>> 1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#When_do_they_build.3F
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[Lubuntu-qa] Thunderbird can't write letters without restart

2013-09-19 Thread Nio Wiklund
Hi,

In my production machine I run Ubuntu with lubuntu-desktop

After the update yesterday (Sept 19 2013). I have a problem with Thunderbird

The window to write letters (or reply to letters) is borked. There is no
cursor, and although it is focused, the active window is still the main
Thunderbird window, so I can't write anything. This happens after
running Thunderbird for a while, and I have to close and re-open
Thunderbird to be able to write a letter again.

[CODE]$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
Release: 12.04
Codename: precise
$ uname -a
Linux ssd-grund 3.2.0-53-generic-pae #81-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 22 21:23:47
UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[/CODE]

I have Thunderbird 24.0 from the repositories.

-o-

If you have the same or a related problem, please add that you are
affected by this bug too.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1228002

-o-

Written from a fresh restarted session of Thunderbird,
with best regards from
Nio

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