Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Bug on installing from 'try without installing'

2013-06-24 Thread Iberê Fernandes 
2013/6/23 Ali Linx (amjjawad) 

>
> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
>
>> On 2013-06-23 16:06, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I know you've all been concentrating on the 'how low can we go' with
>> > ZRam, but it does seem there is a bug in the 'try without installing'
>> > install
>> > method. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1193526
>> > can someone check it out and add to 'affects lubuntu' also.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Phill.
>> >
>> > --
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>> >
>> >
>> It affects me too,
>
>
> I must check to tell.
>
>
>
>> and it is new,
>
>
> Yes.
>
>
>> at least it worked a couple of days
>> ago.
>
>
> Same here - 17062013 daily build.
>
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I had already posted a bug before but not sure upon the right package
though, but my bug is older than the Xubuntu's bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1193409

should I link or mark as duplicate?

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu-restricted-extras & Chromium Browser

2013-06-24 Thread Nio Wiklund 
On 2013-06-24 19:26, Iberê Fernandes wrote:
> 2013/6/22 Ali Linx (amjjawad)  >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
> 
> will install Chromium Browser if executed.
> 
> 
> $ sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree  
> Reading state information... Done
> 
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   cabextract chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
>   chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51
>   libopenjpeg2 lubuntu-restricted-addons ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar
> 
> Suggested packages:
>   webaccounts-chromium-extension unity-chromium-extension
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   libavcodec53 libavutil51
> 
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   cabextract chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
>   chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51
>   libopenjpeg2 lubuntu-restricted-addons lubuntu-restricted-extras
>   ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar
> 
> 0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 33.1 MB of archives.
> After this operation, 117 MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
> 
> I have installed it on my test laptop and just found out Chromium is
> there.
> I have tried to test it on my VM and same, it was about to install
> Chromium too.
> 
> Is there anyway to stop that? I mean users may not like that (to
> have Chromium) OR shall we keep it as it is but mention in the
> release notes that Chromium will be installed?
> 
> I don't know but I find it really odd to install Chromium Browser
> with that package.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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> 
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> 
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> *amjjawad *
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> 
> *
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> Ali,
> 
> I've just added your question to our agenda just in case you get no
> replies about it... There are lots of emails/questions re: saucy lately...
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda
> 
> Pls, feel free to remove it from my queue at the agenda and move to yours.
> 
> Cheers,
> Iberê

I think lubuntu-restricted-extras needs to be updated to the new
situation, where firefox replaces chromium-browser

Nio


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu-restricted-extras & Chromium Browser

2013-06-24 Thread Iberê Fernandes 
2013/6/22 Ali Linx (amjjawad) 

> Hi,
>
> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
>
> will install Chromium Browser if executed.
>
>
> $ sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
>
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   cabextract chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
>   chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51
>   libopenjpeg2 lubuntu-restricted-addons ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar
>
> Suggested packages:
>   webaccounts-chromium-extension unity-chromium-extension
>
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   libavcodec53 libavutil51
>
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   cabextract chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
>   chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51
>   libopenjpeg2 lubuntu-restricted-addons lubuntu-restricted-extras
>   ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar
>
> 0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 33.1 MB of archives.
> After this operation, 117 MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
>
> I have installed it on my test laptop and just found out Chromium is there.
> I have tried to test it on my VM and same, it was about to install
> Chromium too.
>
> Is there anyway to stop that? I mean users may not like that (to have
> Chromium) OR shall we keep it as it is but mention in the release notes
> that Chromium will be installed?
>
> I don't know but I find it really odd to install Chromium Browser with
> that package.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
>
> "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>
> *Best Regards,*
> *amjjawad *
> *Start 
> Ubuntu
> *
> *My Own Business *
>
>
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Ali,

I've just added your question to our agenda just in case you get no replies
about it... There are lots of emails/questions re: saucy lately...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda

Pls, feel free to remove it from my queue at the agenda and move to yours.

Cheers,
Iberê
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 on the QA Tracker

2013-06-24 Thread Phill Whiteside 
Hi Lance,

the cron job (auto-rebuild) of the lubuntu images has now been turned off.
The images on the tracker as of now can be considered as our A1's.

Regards,

Phill.

On 24 June 2013 21:15, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:

> Lance, phil should have the full details. But in short, these alphas are
> now controlled by the flavors. The builds will appear once the flavor in
> question is ready and asks for it to be built.
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> On 06/24/2013 03:04 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>
>> Lance, let me track down and see what's going on with alpha 1. Every
>> milestone should have a release manager whose job it is to flip on these
>> switches. I'm not sure who volunteered for alpha 1 :-)
>>
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
>> On 06/24/2013 02:52 PM, Lance wrote:
>>
>>> I tried to PM Nicholas earlier using Thunderbird but it didn't seem to
>>> work. This change from "sbcglobal.net" to "att.net" is proving to be a
>>> real pain  :^(
>>>
>>> I just wanted to ask if something needs to be manually updated on the QA
>>> Tracker for flavors opt-in Alpha 1 testing?
>>>
>>> Sorry to be a pain.
>>>
>>> Lance
>>>
>>> PS: I'm still receiving messages OK at Yahoo which is why it's still my
>>> default address.
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] lubuntu-restricted-extras & Chromium Browser

2013-06-24 Thread Erick Brunzell 
On 06/24/2013 12:29 PM, Nio Wiklund wrote:
> On 2013-06-24 19:26, Iberê Fernandes wrote:
>> 2013/6/22 Ali Linx (amjjawad) > >
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
>>
>> will install Chromium Browser if executed.
>>
>>
>> $ sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree  
>> Reading state information... Done
>>
>> The following extra packages will be installed:
>>   cabextract chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
>>   chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51
>>   libopenjpeg2 lubuntu-restricted-addons ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar
>>
>> Suggested packages:
>>   webaccounts-chromium-extension unity-chromium-extension
>>
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>   libavcodec53 libavutil51
>>
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>   cabextract chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n
>>   chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil-extra-51
>>   libopenjpeg2 lubuntu-restricted-addons lubuntu-restricted-extras
>>   ttf-mscorefonts-installer unrar
>>
>> 0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 33.1 MB of archives.
>> After this operation, 117 MB of additional disk space will be used.
>> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
>>
>> I have installed it on my test laptop and just found out Chromium is
>> there.
>> I have tried to test it on my VM and same, it was about to install
>> Chromium too.
>>
>> Is there anyway to stop that? I mean users may not like that (to
>> have Chromium) OR shall we keep it as it is but mention in the
>> release notes that Chromium will be installed?
>>
>> I don't know but I find it really odd to install Chromium Browser
>> with that package.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
>>
>> *Best Regards,*
>> *amjjawad *
>> *Start Ubuntu
>> 
>> *
>> *My Own Business *
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Ali,
>>
>> I've just added your question to our agenda just in case you get no
>> replies about it... There are lots of emails/questions re: saucy lately...
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda
>>
>> Pls, feel free to remove it from my queue at the agenda and move to yours.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Iberê
> I think lubuntu-restricted-extras needs to be updated to the new
> situation, where firefox replaces chromium-browser
>
> Nio
>
>
Please be patient. The "extras" and "addons" are not currently supported
by Lubuntu dev so it takes a while for these changes to take place ;^)

Just moments ago I asked about why the QA Tracker is not yet showing any
Alpha 1 tests for opt-in flavors. Remember we're only at Alpha 1 testing
and no finished product should be expected because we're NOT a true
rolling release.

But I am including Julien in the conversation so he can weigh in
regarding the need to change the "depends" and "recommends" regarding
'lubuntu-restricted' packages.

Lance

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1 on the QA Tracker

2013-06-24 Thread Erick Brunzell 
On 06/24/2013 03:17 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi Lance,
>
> the cron job (auto-rebuild) of the lubuntu images has now been turned
> off. The images on the tracker as of now can be considered as our A1's.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 24 June 2013 21:15, Nicholas Skaggs  > wrote:
>
> Lance, phil should have the full details. But in short, these
> alphas are now controlled by the flavors. The builds will appear
> once the flavor in question is ready and asks for it to be built.
>
> Nicholas
>
>
> On 06/24/2013 03:04 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote:
>
> Lance, let me track down and see what's going on with alpha 1.
> Every milestone should have a release manager whose job it is
> to flip on these switches. I'm not sure who volunteered for
> alpha 1 :-)
>
>
> Nicholas
>
> On 06/24/2013 02:52 PM, Lance wrote:
>
> I tried to PM Nicholas earlier using Thunderbird but it
> didn't seem to work. This change from "sbcglobal.net
> " to "att.net " is
> proving to be a real pain  :^(
>
> I just wanted to ask if something needs to be manually
> updated on the QA Tracker for flavors opt-in Alpha 1 testing?
>
> Sorry to be a pain.
>
> Lance
>
> PS: I'm still receiving messages OK at Yahoo which is why
> it's still my default address.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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So we should notify the QA list?

Which I guess this email does :^)

Lance
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[Lubuntu-qa] Alpha 1

2013-06-24 Thread Phill Whiteside 
Hi,

Crazy day with classroom sessions. As you may have read in the foot note to
an earlier e-mail the cron (daily build) for lubuntu has been stopped. The
system of doing alphas and betas has somewhat (!!) changed. Unless there
are critical and fixable errors, I do not envisage asking for a respin. We
are aware of the bug that stops you installing using the 'install Lubuntu'
icon from the LiveCD. It affects everyone and has appeared since they
tweaked the command it calls. It will get fixed, but is not the end of the
world for us, especially as we've been devoting time to using ZRAM :)

For all our testers, I'm well assured that you know your way around bug
reporting, but if you wonder what whoopsie and daisy are along with a
fantastic session from the head of Ubuntu-Bugs on the additional things
ubuntu-bug can do. There is also a new classroom on SRU's. Have a read of
the logs from todays classroom sessions[1]. (click on the topic to get the
logs)

We have an IRC meeting scheduled for Tuesday [2] Do pop along if you can,
the logs will be posted up if you cannot.

Keep Calm & Keep Testing!

Regards,

Phill.
1. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy#Reporting_Bugs
2. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda
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[Lubuntu-qa] Installer bugs and ubiquity vs debian-installer

2013-06-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden 
Phill,

At http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/06/24/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t21:10
I see:

> phillw  For bugs that happen at install time, it can be a bit
>   difficult to work out what to raise the bug against.  21:10 
> phillw  To this end, for testing of ISO's a quick list can be found at
>   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Overview/Install_Bugs 21:10 
> phillw  So, if the error occurred whilst trying to install an iso, you would
>   issue the command ubuntu-bug ubiquity

That is only true for LiveCD ISOs.  For Alternate CDs, you would (I
think!) want to file the bug against debian-installer instead, because
that is what Alternate CD images use.

I'd guess the same holds for the netboot (mini.iso) installer, too.

So the Install_Bugs page is probably in need of an update.

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