Re: [Lubuntu-qa] HOWTO Create LiveUSB using "dd"

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hello Jonathan,

What I do love about your emails that you explain in details, deep specific
details and I just like that :D thanks for replying :)

Indeed, I have tried many ways. I was in love with the MultiBootUSB
approach where I can put so many ISOs on my 8GB USB which I'm using beside
my other 4GB USB and another 1GB USB stick. I have 3 :)
And yes, these are not costly anymore.

As explained in my previous email, I had a problem with testing
raring-desktop-i386 [1] and after so many tries, finally it is working :D

I couldn't agree more, the 'dd' approach is easy but if you have 4GB USB
and more, the rest is waste. MultiBootUSB approach helped me a lot with the
stable versions of Lubuntu but with the Beta versions, it failed.

Maybe I should have written more about the advantages and disadvantages but
it is also good sometimes when you teach someone how to do fishing rather
than feeding him/her :P but I will remember that next time. I didn't have
time to explain in details.
Wait, that is why your emails are needed and much appreciated :D
We are a team, right? so I like the idea of one of us complete the other ;)

Thank you!


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

> Different people use bootable USB sticks and Linux in different ways.
> If you want to teach and advise the Lubuntu community about use of USB
> sticks, it would be good to first learn about and test several of those
> ways, and understand their advantages and disadvantages, so we can then
> recommend the most appropriate approach for different specific needs.
>
> On 04/06/2013 10:28 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote:
>
> > The method that I sent and wanted to share it with those who haven't
> > heard about it nor used it before, is to create a LiveUSB and quite
> > honestly, I have no idea if that is a 'persistence' or not?
>
> No, it is not.  Using dd gets you the equivalent of the one ISO image
> that you copy, no more and no less.  One USB stick, one ISO image.  If
> that is what you want, great, you are done, stop, no need for any other
> software tools to create your "LiveUSB" for Lubuntu.
>
> Some USB sticks are now a lot larger than Lubuntu ISO images.  You now
> see 16GB, 32GB, 64GB... there are even 256GB USB sticks, although they
> are pricey, and I have never seen or used one.  32GB sticks are now
> inexpensive, down to around US$15 online, so a good space vs cost
> tradeoff for many users.  64GB for around US$30 is also worth
> considering if you have a use for the extra space.  [I know this is
> US-centric, costs will be different elsewhere.]
>
> Clearly, using a whole 32GB or 64GB USB stick for just one 700MB ISO
> (which is what your dd method does) can be considered somewhat wasteful.
>  Using "the rest" of the space on the USB stick for a persistent
> filesystem, to store an installed and configured Lubuntu machine, is
> very useful for some people.  Creating multiboot USB sticks (so one USB
> stick can contain many different ISO images, and provide a menu allowing
> a user to choose which one to boot) is useful in other, different,
> situations.  You could theoretically fit over 90 different 700MB ISO
> images on one 64GB USB stick -- but that would be a really *long* boot
> menu :)
>
> Jonathan
>
>


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[Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu installation test

[Nio Wiklund]

Hello everybody :-)

This is a short report of a Lubuntu installation from the desktop iso
file (32-bit daily).

The target machine was delivered in April 2008 by a small vendor of
computers with Ubuntu preinstalled. It came with Ubuntu 7.10, but I soon
upgraded to 8.04 LTS. See this link.

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M2NVM_DVI/

During the installation I checked the RAM usage every 5 seconds, and
found that it maxed at 411MB when the language packs were installed and
a little bit later. The RAM usage was above 384MB for quite a while. See
the attached gnumeric file. The logger was the attached one-liner. The
live session found a swap file, and the swappiness is default, so it
swapped around 20 MB (maximum 22) although the installed RAM is 2 GB.

The installed size on the HDD is only around 2GB.

The multimedia performance is great considering it's an on-board nvidia
chip from 2008 and the built-in nouveau driver and also compared to
10.04 LTS and 12.04 LTS. I did not bother to install the proprietary
driver for this test.

I found only the few known bugs. Otherwise the installed system
performed well :-)

Best regards
Nio


RAM-usage-during-installation-of-Lubuntu-Raring-32-bit-from-desktop-iso.gnumeric
Description: application/gnumeric
rm tmp;echo 'RAM'>tmp;while test 1; do free|grep 'buffers/cache:'|tr -s ' '|cut 
-f3 -d ' '|sed 's#.*#&/1024#'|bc;sleep 5;done|tee -a tmp
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[Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Lance]

I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379

It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.

Lance

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Done!


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Lance  wrote:

> I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379
>
> It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.
>
> Lance
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Lance]

Many thanks ;^)

Lance

--- On Mon, 4/8/13, Ali Linx (amjjawad)  wrote:

From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
To: "Lance" 
Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:07 PM

Done!

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Lance  wrote:

I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379



It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.



Lance



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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Lance]

I also need to follow up on what happens after installation;

Are we getting the message to reboot after we install?

I don't think we are, but I really can't be sure until this upstream bug is 
fixed:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701

That has been a huge problem since mid-November!

Thank goodness we kept the alternate alive!

Lance

--- On Mon, 4/8/13, Lance  wrote:

From: Lance 
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
To: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" 
Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:18 PM

Many thanks ;^)

Lance

--- On Mon, 4/8/13, Ali Linx (amjjawad)  wrote:

From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
To: "Lance" 
Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:07 PM

Done!

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Lance  wrote:

I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379



It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.



Lance



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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Lance,

as I've previously mentioned, this is something that needs fixing at kernel
level. As the reason ppc iso is over sized is due to having lots of kernels
in it, I had entered early discussions so that lubuntu-ppc-desktop (and
alternate) only ship with the kernel(s) needed for the various desktops we
support. It is very unlikely that this will be resolved before 13.04 lands
(we've passed too many freezes and it is not a minor undertaking --
although it has not been ruled out for 13.10). when this is done, we may
even find out which kernel(s) to alter for which chipset!

Regards,

Phill.


On 8 April 2013 20:31, Lance  wrote:

> I also need to follow up on what happens after installation;
>
> Are we getting the message to reboot after we install?
>
> I don't think we are, but I really can't be sure until this upstream bug
> is fixed:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701
>
> That has been a huge problem since mid-November!
>
> Thank goodness we kept the alternate alive!
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Lance * wrote:
>
>
> From: Lance 
>
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
> To: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" 
> Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:18 PM
>
>
> Many thanks ;^)
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Ali Linx (amjjawad) * wrote:
>
>
> From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
> To: "Lance" 
> Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:07 PM
>
> Done!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Lance  wrote:
>
> I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379
>
> It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.
>
> Lance
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Lance]

Errm, this is why I cross-tested with todays Ubuntu image ;^)

I think you're wrong this time. If it's purely a kernel bug then even Ubuntu 
GNOME would be effected . I'm fairly sure that it's a casper bug.

Whenever possible I try to test any "buggish" behavior in our flavor against 
Ubuntu itself to see if it still exists "upstream".

In this case the behavior is the same in Ubuntu as it it here, so I reported a 
bug :^)

Lance

--- On Mon, 4/8/13, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

From: Phill Whiteside 
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
To: "Lance" 
Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:56 PM

Hi Lance,
as I've previously mentioned, this is something that needs fixing at kernel 
level. As the reason ppc iso is over sized is due to having lots of kernels in 
it, I had entered early discussions so that lubuntu-ppc-desktop (and alternate) 
only ship with the kernel(s) needed for the various desktops we support. It is 
very unlikely that this will be resolved before 13.04 lands (we've passed too 
many freezes and it is not a minor undertaking -- although it has not been 
ruled out for 13.10). when this is done, we may even find out which kernel(s) 
to alter for which chipset!

Regards,
Phill.

On 8 April 2013 20:31, Lance  wrote:

I also need to follow up on what happens after installation;


Are we getting the message to reboot after we install?

I don't think we are, but I really can't be sure until this upstream bug is 
fixed:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701


That has been a huge problem since mid-November!

Thank goodness we kept the alternate alive!

Lance

--- On Mon, 4/8/13, Lance  wrote:


From: Lance 
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

To: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" 
Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 

Date: Monday, April 8, 2013,
 2:18 PM

Many thanks ;^)

Lance

--- On Mon, 4/8/13, Ali Linx (amjjawad)  wrote:


From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

To: "Lance" 
Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 

Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:07 PM

Done!

On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Lance  wrote:

I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379



It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.



Lance



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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Phill Whiteside]

Ubuntu GNOME do not have a ppc release?


On 8 April 2013 21:02, Lance  wrote:

> Errm, this is why I cross-tested with todays Ubuntu image ;^)
>
> I think you're wrong this time. If it's purely a kernel bug then even
> Ubuntu GNOME would be effected . I'm fairly sure that it's a
> casper bug.
>
> Whenever possible I try to test any "buggish" behavior in our flavor
> against Ubuntu itself to see if it still exists "upstream".
>
> In this case the behavior is the same in Ubuntu as it it here, so I
> reported a bug :^)
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Phill Whiteside * wrote:
>
>
> From: Phill Whiteside 
>
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
> To: "Lance" 
> Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:56 PM
>
>
> Hi Lance,
>
> as I've previously mentioned, this is something that needs fixing at
> kernel level. As the reason ppc iso is over sized is due to having lots of
> kernels in it, I had entered early discussions so that lubuntu-ppc-desktop
> (and alternate) only ship with the kernel(s) needed for the various
> desktops we support. It is very unlikely that this will be resolved before
> 13.04 lands (we've passed too many freezes and it is not a minor
> undertaking -- although it has not been ruled out for 13.10). when this is
> done, we may even find out which kernel(s) to alter for which chipset!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On 8 April 2013 20:31, Lance 
> http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> I also need to follow up on what happens after installation;
>
> Are we getting the message to reboot after we install?
>
> I don't think we are, but I really can't be sure until this upstream bug
> is fixed:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701
>
> That has been a huge problem since mid-November!
>
> Thank goodness we kept the alternate alive!
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Lance 
> http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Lance http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
> To: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" 
> http://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com>
> >
> Cc: 
> "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net"
> http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net>
> >
> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:18 PM
>
>
> Many thanks ;^)
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> http://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> http://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
> To: "Lance" http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>>
> Cc: 
> "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net"
> http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net>
> >
> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:07 PM
>
> Done!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Lance  wrote:
>
> I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379
>
> It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.
>
> Lance
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Phill Whiteside]

sorry, wrong bug number in my browser! That bug is also very much alive!


On 8 April 2013 21:04, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Ubuntu GNOME do not have a ppc release?
>
>
> On 8 April 2013 21:02, Lance  wrote:
>
>> Errm, this is why I cross-tested with todays Ubuntu image ;^)
>>
>> I think you're wrong this time. If it's purely a kernel bug then even
>> Ubuntu GNOME would be effected . I'm fairly sure that it's a
>> casper bug.
>>
>> Whenever possible I try to test any "buggish" behavior in our flavor
>> against Ubuntu itself to see if it still exists "upstream".
>>
>> In this case the behavior is the same in Ubuntu as it it here, so I
>> reported a bug :^)
>>
>> Lance
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Phill Whiteside * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Phill Whiteside 
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
>> To: "Lance" 
>> Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
>> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:56 PM
>>
>>
>> Hi Lance,
>>
>> as I've previously mentioned, this is something that needs fixing at
>> kernel level. As the reason ppc iso is over sized is due to having lots of
>> kernels in it, I had entered early discussions so that lubuntu-ppc-desktop
>> (and alternate) only ship with the kernel(s) needed for the various
>> desktops we support. It is very unlikely that this will be resolved before
>> 13.04 lands (we've passed too many freezes and it is not a minor
>> undertaking -- although it has not been ruled out for 13.10). when this is
>> done, we may even find out which kernel(s) to alter for which chipset!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On 8 April 2013 20:31, Lance 
>> http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I also need to follow up on what happens after installation;
>>
>> Are we getting the message to reboot after we install?
>>
>> I don't think we are, but I really can't be sure until this upstream bug
>> is fixed:
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1080701
>>
>> That has been a huge problem since mid-November!
>>
>> Thank goodness we kept the alternate alive!
>>
>> Lance
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Lance 
>> http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Lance http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>
>> >
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
>> To: "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" 
>> http://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Cc: 
>> "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net"
>> http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net>
>> >
>> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:18 PM
>>
>>
>> Many thanks ;^)
>>
>> Lance
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
>> http://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com>
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
>> http://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com>
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
>> To: "Lance" http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>
>> >
>> Cc: 
>> "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net"
>> http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net>
>> >
>> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:07 PM
>>
>> Done!
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Lance  wrote:
>>
>> I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379
>>
>> It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

I'm the one who should thank you :D
I should have reported that myself too Launchpad because I was so loud
about it but since we are one team, I don't think it does matter who report
it first, right? :P :D

Thank you and hope that will be fixed.

It is really really good that we still have the alternate image :D



On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Lance  wrote:

> Many thanks ;^)
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Mon, 4/8/13, Ali Linx (amjjawad) * wrote:
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>
> From: Ali Linx (amjjawad) 
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Check disc for defects bug needs confirmation
> To: "Lance" 
> Cc: "lubuntu-qa@lists.launchpad.net" 
> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 2:07 PM
>
>
> Done!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 PM, Lance 
> http://mc/compose?to=lbsol...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> I remembered this being mentioned so I cross-tested todays Ubuntu image:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1166379
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> It would be beneficial to have  a confirmation.
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[Lubuntu-qa] Non-Official-Apps

[Ali Linx (amjjawad)]

Hi,

I was so excited to have both the alternate and the desktop versions
installed successfully on my test machine after a hard time with the
desktop image which didn't want to work after installation, now it does.

Anyway, I've been playing with these apps recently:

https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/+archive/non-official-apps?field.series_filter=raring

I just have a silly Q here.

Do I need to carry on now? I don't think these will be included with 13.04
but can we even recommend that to other users?

So far, 13.04 beta2 is doing well. Did not do heavy tests yet but even
Chromium crashes are less.

I'm starting to like the idea of "xombrero" - was watching youtube video
this morning and it was using around 160MB or Physical RAM (AKA Resident
RAM) if I remember correctly.

I also played with "compton" and it is nice to have that specially for
users who keep complaining about the lack of tweaks/effects on Lubuntu.

As for the image view, I'm so disappointed as it has no "crop" tool :(
I do need that a lot on daily basis and shotwell has a lot of dependencies.

"lubuntu-tweak" did not work for me at all. Nothing happened when I tried
to put the File Manager and the Trash on the desktop.

As for the menu editor, I saw it but didn't play with it yet. It looks
promising. Not even sure if I personally need such thing with Lubuntu but
perhaps it will be useful for others.

I will do heavier tests for these apps but do you guys recommend to do this
now? or after the release? in fact, I'm just thinking this is a good chance
to test how stable 13.04 beta 2 is :)

Hmm, I think I will install Firefox and test the 3 browsers :)

But overall, it is really really really nice to have all these apps in one
PPA :D

Thank you!

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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Lubuntu 13.04 PPC Testing - Now Clarify Netboot Testing

[Phill Whiteside]

hi good people,

I've not ignored this thread, quite the opposite. I've been chatting to
Nicholas and discussed several options to 'clean up' the mini-iso / network
boot test case area. He's pretty happy with my proposal which is we run
only one test case [1] as mandatory with the others as optional; but I need
to double check this with the -release team as we are moving test cases
around pretty late in the cycle.

Regards,

Phill.
1. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1499/info

On 9 April 2013 00:19, Str8bs  wrote:

> Thanks
>
> Raring mini boots and installs base fine on iMac G3 600 R128 Ultra without
> issue. If I understand Phil's comments, that should be logged under Raring
> Daily netboot iso test and I will do so.
> BTW:  I can also confirm successful sudo tasksel of Lubuntu desktop
> excepting the usual xorg workarounds on this hardware.
>
> In case it helps others trying install from mini.iso:
>
> If tester is going for Lubuntu desktop (or others,) might be a good idea to
> add "sudo apt-get update" prior to "sudo tasksel." If not, the only option
> related to Lubuntu is Lubuntu live CD. No idea what that is supposed to do
> from tasksel, but it does not install xinit. If apt-get update is run
> first,
> then Lubuntu Desktop (and others) is an option and installs fine. May also
> want to note to unmark all others in tasksel. Several other desktops are
> marked by default.
>
> This method is noted here
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#How_do_I_install_from_the_mini_iso.3F
>
>
> Regards,
> Str8
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> From: phi...@vpolink.com [mailto:phi...@vpolink.com] On Behalf Of Phill
> Whiteside
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 2:10 PM
> To: Str8bs; Jackson Doak; Nicholas Skaggs
> Cc: ubuntu-qual...@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Lubuntu 13.04 PPC Testing - Now Clarify Netboot Testing
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> Good Catch,
>
> this test case for PPC, is wrong. It should refer
> to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1499/info  of
> which http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1500/info seems to be a
> duplicate of? and not
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1465/info
>
> The Mini (network) install test cases should only be to tested to the point
> that it reboots okay. It is for the flavours (teams) to discuss how to
> proceed with adding what they want onto it (LAMP, Mail-Server, Lubuntu etc.
> etc.) from the tasksel listing. This is what lubuntu does
> in
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Me
> thod
>
> As there seems to be 'test-cases' for mini-iso, that are actually nothing
> to
> do with testing the actual successful installation of it. These additional
> tasks are a function of the application tasksel and should be moved to
> 'optional' or even to 'applications-testing' and away from iso-tracker. We
> can advise on the options available in tasksel and people can log in and
> use
> tasksel to install what every they want.
>
> @ Nicholas, can I have your views on this?
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On 8 April 2013 18:52, Str8bs  wrote:
> Sorry for n00b question, but,
> The task described at
>
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/243/builds/41621/testcases/146
> 5/resultsappears
>  as standard alternate/minimal install. By netboot do you
> mean simply installing by booting mini.iso? or setting up a netboot server
> on my end and booting/installing from that?
>
> Thanks
>
> From: Jackson Doak [mailto:doak.jack...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 3:51 PM
> To: Str8bs
> Cc: Lubuntu
> Subject: Re: Lubuntu 13.04 PPC Testing
>
> always try and test the latest image, it's good to have a tester. could you
> try netboot too.
>
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Str8bs  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Phil mentioned in the forum that beta1 was missed. I'm not familiar
> with how the release schedule works.
> Does this mean testing PPC 13.04 beta 1 alternate would be a waste of time?
> When installing on older (G3) hardware, I usually prefer the alternate
> due to they usually also have low ram.
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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] ppc problems with lubuntu ISOs

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On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 16:38:57 -0500
prairie zephyr  wrote:

> In my real-world ppc experience what I get after knowing from previous 
> googling for boot parameters is the opportunity to install Lubuntu 13.04 from 
> an openbox desktop but no "Try FAMILY" option

FAMILY can mean Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, etc. It's generically 
written.

> nor "Startup Disk Creator".

this is part of the install process.

> System Profiler and Benchmark threw up numerous greyed out nested windows, 
> after closing many eventually gave me a good System Info window.

known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hardinfo/+bug/1029212

> I can't do the Live Session testcase as per instructions.

besides theabove, what else is missing?

> failed on url 
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/20130406/raring-alternate-powerpc.iso.zsync

well, 6 apr != today, does it, now? :) as it turns out yesterday is under 
daily, as is today (by both date and "current") but not two days ago. user a 
newer version and your problem will be solved.

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