Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package

[Maria Randazzo]

Please see your tracking number here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds/Tracking

In order to check the status you need to visit TNT:
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Thanks :)
Maria

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Re: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package

[Jocelyn]

Hi Maria ,

i wish your fine and everything is okay :)

Just asking if is it possible to us get soem 10.10 CDS and if we want to do
a small conference and to get some possible goods .
please advise

Best Regards

Jocelyn

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Maria Randazzo <
maria.randa...@canonical.com> wrote:

> Please see your tracking number here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds/Tracking
>
> In order to check the status you need to visit TNT:
> http://bit.ly/bNNxqn
>
> Thanks :)
> Maria
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Re: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package

[Maria Randazzo]

Hi Jocelyn

Of course not a problem, can you please follow the instructions:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds

Thanks!
Maria


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package
From: Jocelyn 
To: Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts 

Date: 20/10/10 10:11

> Hi Maria ,
>
> i wish your fine and everything is okay :)
>
> Just asking if is it possible to us get soem 10.10 CDS and if we want to
> do a small conference and to get some possible goods .
> please advise
>
> Best Regards
>
> Jocelyn
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Maria Randazzo
> mailto:maria.randa...@canonical.com>> wrote:
>
> Please see your tracking number here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds/Tracking
>
> In order to check the status you need to visit TNT:
> http://bit.ly/bNNxqn
>
> Thanks :)
> Maria
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Re: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package

[Jocelyn]

many thanks for your support

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Maria Randazzo <
maria.randa...@canonical.com> wrote:

> Hi Jocelyn
>
> Of course not a problem, can you please follow the instructions:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds
>
> Thanks!
> Maria
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package
> From: Jocelyn 
> To: Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts
> 
> Date: 20/10/10 10:11
>
> > Hi Maria ,
> >
> > i wish your fine and everything is okay :)
> >
> > Just asking if is it possible to us get soem 10.10 CDS and if we want to
> > do a small conference and to get some possible goods .
> > please advise
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Jocelyn
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Maria Randazzo
> > mailto:maria.randa...@canonical.com>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Please see your tracking number here:
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds/Tracking
> >
> > In order to check the status you need to visit TNT:
> > http://bit.ly/bNNxqn
> >
> > Thanks :)
> > Maria
> >
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Re: [Launchpad-dev] Internationalization of Launchpad Answers

[Curtis Hovey]

On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 20:39 +0200, David Planella wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> For this UDS, I've drafted a blueprint for a session to discuss the
> internationalization of the Launchpad Answers UI [1].

I Subscribed myself. I am attending UDS-N and I am one of the primary
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Re: Translatable Code of Conduct (CoC) and Leadership Code of Conduct (LCoC)

[Fumihito YOSHIDA]

Hi David and all,

For brainstorming, I propose yet another tasks. So,

  -  Do we need Onomasticon ?
  -  Do we need "English = English translation" ?

> I just wanted to let you know about the blueprint I've just drafted for
> a UDS session to discuss an effort to make the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
> (CoC) and Leadership Code of Conduct translatable [1].
>
> From the summary:
>
> "We want to provide the Code of Conduct (CoC) and the Leadership Code of
> Conduct (LCoC) in anyone's own language, and we want to enable the
> community to translate it.

We (Japanese LoCo) had translate CoC already( http://bit.ly/9WJ80c ).
In translation works, we face some challenges about CoC/LCoC terms.

Do we need Onomasticon ? :

 - CoC has some {philosophical implications, Ubuntu governance term}.
   For example, "Ubuntu governance bodies". We need long discussion about
   this term, because we have to analyze , "it include nuance? Or, is it
   proper name?(like Community Council?) "
   In this case, we check Jono's blog[1] and other documents, but it is
   heavy to dicisions. But if we had proper name lists, we can work easily.

Do we need "English = English translation" ?  :

 - For translation works, many "paraphrase" creates good translations.
   (see also: "Paraphrasing Social from the start"[2])

Any ideas?

[1] http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/08/09/
[2] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2010-April/003502.html

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How to rename a existing LoCo team name/id on launchpad?

[abgalphabet]

I have created a loco team with name not in accordance to loco team naming
standard.
Could anyone tell me how can i rename my team to the form of ubuntu-XX?
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Re: [Ubuntu-PH] Ubuntu-PH Maverick Release Party on October 23

[Allan Caeg]

There's also going to be a party in Cebu (same day) at JIVE restobar.
According to kidsodateless, there's also one in Puerto Princesa City,
Palawan on the same day, but I don't know the exact location.

Any updates for other areas? It's nice to sync so we can do videostreaming
:)

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Zak B. Elep  wrote:

> It is confirmed, we have a party on Saturday, October 23, at Orange
> and Bronze Software Labs in Makati, 6:00pm onwards.  Pressed CDs have
> arrived (thanks, Canonical!) and we have people to talk about new
> Ubuntu features and sharing new developments on a new national
> language keymap.
>
> Feel free to share this invite; share also some food and drink if you
> can, too ;)
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Re: [Ubuntu-PH] Ubuntu-PH Maverick Release Party on October 23

[erle mantos]

I'm going to the Cebu one .. Jive bar daw? Any details on that Release
party? I'd like to help in any way I can ...

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Zak B. Elep  wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Zak B. Elep  wrote:
>> It is confirmed, we have a party on Saturday, October 23, at Orange
>> and Bronze Software Labs in Makati, 6:00pm onwards.  Pressed CDs have
>> arrived (thanks, Canonical!) and we have people to talk about new
>> Ubuntu features and sharing new developments on a new national
>> language keymap.
>
> For attendees, please register at the Event page on the LoCo
> Directory, so we can plan ahead:
>
> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/495/detail/
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How to link team resources on LoCo Directory team page

[abgalphabet]

I have created wiki, irc, forum, mailing list, etc.. resources
according to Ubuntu
LoCo HowTo  guidelines.
I also create a loco team (named
hongkonglocoteam)
on launchpad and it's successfully get listed on LoCo
Directory
.
However, not all resources are showed on the team page on LoCo
Directory
.
How can I get all resources linked to this page on LoCo
Directory
.?!

Since I am not created a team in ubuntu loco team naming convention, i.e.
ubuntu-XX,
should I create another team in the name of ubuntu-hk and re-register the
new team as a subteam of Ubuntu Local Community
Teams
 ?

Any help is appreciated!

Thanks
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Re: Ubuntu Nicaragua ReApproval

[Efrain Valles]

This is the most impressive, informative, and creative approval
application I have ever seen. Congrats to the Nicarangua Team.

hoping you get reapproved



2010/10/18 Leandro Gómez :
> Hi all,
> The Ubuntu Nicaragua LoCo Team is up for ReApproval tomorrow. If you know us
> or have worked with us on some project or event, please consider edit the
> wiki page and give us a cheer:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NicaraguanTeam/ReApproval2010#Cheers from the
> community
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Re: Ubuntu Nicaragua ReApproval

[Michael Kotsarinis]

2010/10/20 Efrain Valles 

> hoping you get reapproved
>
>
In fact, they were reapproved last night!
And, yes, I felt very jealous of their excellent work!

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Re: Ubuntu Nicaragua ReApproval

[Simon Vass]

Seriously nice work Nicaragua, think you might have just set a new high bar!

Simon Vass

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To: "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts" 

Sent: Wednesday, 20 October, 2010 1:40:16 PM
Subject: Re: Ubuntu Nicaragua ReApproval





2010/10/20 Efrain Valles < effie-j...@ubuntu.com > 


hoping you get reapproved 


In fact, they were reapproved last night! 
And, yes, I felt very jealous of their excellent work! 

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Re: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package

[Maria Randazzo]

Dear Locos,

Apologies for publishing your name, tracking number and city in the wiki 
page I created.(Note that full address is NOT disclosed, only city)

Please let me know if this is a problem for you and I will remove all 
the details ASAP. We are in the process of creating a personalised 
notification system for future releases.

Many thanks and apologies again,
Maria



 Original Message 
Subject: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package
From: Maria Randazzo 
To: loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com
Date: 20/10/10 09:59

> Please see your tracking number here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds/Tracking
>
> In order to check the status you need to visit TNT:
> http://bit.ly/bNNxqn
>
> Thanks :)
> Maria
>


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Re: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package

[Legendario]

That's pretty good iniciative! Reduces anxiety! :-D Thanks!

Kemel Zaidan aka Legendario
Coordenador Ubuntu-BR-SP

jabber: legendario ARROBA jabber.org
twitter: @kemelzaidan

Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODF. Não sabe o que é? -> http://miud.in/V1



2010/10/20 Maria Randazzo 

> Please see your tracking number here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds/Tracking
>
> In order to check the status you need to visit TNT:
> http://bit.ly/bNNxqn
>
> Thanks :)
> Maria
>
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Re: Ubuntu 10.10 CDs - Tracking your package

[YoBoY]

  Le 20/10/2010 17:39, Maria Randazzo a écrit :
> Dear Locos,
>
> Apologies for publishing your name, tracking number and city in the wiki
> page I created.(Note that full address is NOT disclosed, only city)
>
> Please let me know if this is a problem for you and I will remove all
> the details ASAP. We are in the process of creating a personalised
> notification system for future releases.
>
> Many thanks and apologies again,
> Maria
>
>
No problem, something strange with my name by the way. What's "Gross G" 
? ^^"

Thanks for the LiveCDs and thanks for your efforts.

YoBoY

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Re: Translatable Code of Conduct (CoC) and Leadership Code of Conduct (LCoC)

[David Planella]

El dc 20 de 10 de 2010 a les 10:50 +0900, en/na Fumihito YOSHIDA va
escriure:
> Hi David and all,
> 
> For brainstorming, I propose yet another tasks. So,
> 
>   -  Do we need Onomasticon ?
>   -  Do we need "English = English translation" ?
> 
> > I just wanted to let you know about the blueprint I've just drafted for
> > a UDS session to discuss an effort to make the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
> > (CoC) and Leadership Code of Conduct translatable [1].
> >
> > From the summary:
> >
> > "We want to provide the Code of Conduct (CoC) and the Leadership Code of
> > Conduct (LCoC) in anyone's own language, and we want to enable the
> > community to translate it.
> 
> We (Japanese LoCo) had translate CoC already( http://bit.ly/9WJ80c ).
> In translation works, we face some challenges about CoC/LCoC terms.
> 
> Do we need Onomasticon ? :
> 
>  - CoC has some {philosophical implications, Ubuntu governance term}.
>For example, "Ubuntu governance bodies". We need long discussion about
>this term, because we have to analyze , "it include nuance? Or, is it
>proper name?(like Community Council?) "
>In this case, we check Jono's blog[1] and other documents, but it is
>heavy to dicisions. But if we had proper name lists, we can work easily.
> 

Hi Fumihito,

Thanks a lot for your input.

If I understand you correctly, I believe you are referring to the
creation of a global glossary for translation terms.

I personally think that this is something that every team should take
care of, and it is something that we recommend to be in their
translation guidelines [1], as only the people familiar with the given
language know best which terms and how they need to be translated.

However, I do see the value in creating a global glossary that teams
could use as a template and simply translate.

There were efforts in that direction some time ago:

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-translators/2009-December/003170.html

If this is an area you believe to be important, and would like to see it
improved, I'd very much encourage you to revive that effort, or lead a
new project to create a global translation glossary (or memory) for all
teams. I'll certainly be glad to help, as I'm sure other people on the
list will be.

> Do we need "English = English translation" ?  :
> 
>  - For translation works, many "paraphrase" creates good translations.
>(see also: "Paraphrasing Social from the start"[2])
> 
> Any ideas?
> 

Again, that is something that needs to be discussed within each team.
We, in Catalan, for example tend to adhere to the practice of trying to
translate everything and not rely on English terms, where it applies
(e.g. we translate "software" to "programari", but we do not translate
e.g. "Rhythmbox")

Regards,
David.

[1]
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/TranslationGuidelines

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Re: How to link team resources on LoCo Directory team page

[Paul Tagliamonte]

Filing a launchpad answers might be the best way -- I think only the
registry can do it

-Paul

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 2:01 AM, abgalphabet
 wrote:
> I have created wiki, irc, forum, mailing list, etc.. resources according
> to Ubuntu LoCo HowTo guidelines.
> I also create a loco team (named hongkonglocoteam) on launchpad and it's
> successfully get listed on LoCo Directory.
> However, not all resources are showed on the team page on LoCo Directory.
> How can I get all resources linked to this page on LoCo Directory.?!
> Since I am not created a team in ubuntu loco team naming convention, i.e.
> ubuntu-XX,
> should I create another team in the name of ubuntu-hk and re-register the
> new team as a subteam of Ubuntu Local Community Teams ?
> Any help is appreciated!
> Thanks
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Re: Ubuntu Nicaragua ReApproval

[Leandro Gómez]

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Simon Vass  wrote:

> Seriously nice work Nicaragua, think you might have just set a new high
> bar!
>
>
Thank you, guys!
And thanks to everybody who came to cheer for us yesterday... you rock! :)


> Simon Vass
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Kotsarinis" 
> To: "Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts" <
> loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 October, 2010 1:40:16 PM
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu Nicaragua ReApproval
>
>
>
>
>
> 2010/10/20 Efrain Valles < effie-j...@ubuntu.com >
>
>
> hoping you get reapproved
>
>
> In fact, they were reapproved last night!
> And, yes, I felt very jealous of their excellent work!
>
> Michael Kotsarinis
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Re: How to rename a existing LoCo team name/id on launchpad?

[Leandro Gómez]

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:16 AM, abgalphabet <
abgalpha...@consultfurther.com> wrote:

> I have created a loco team with name not in accordance to loco team naming
> standard.
> Could anyone tell me how can i rename my team to the form of ubuntu-XX?
>
>
In Launchpad?
I think you can rename the team with 'Change details'... the only case when
it's not allowed is when your team have a PPA.

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