Re: How to image a linux computer

2023-11-05 Thread shimi
On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 9:35 AM Michael Shiloh 
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on old
> hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this risk, we
> would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run it in a
> virtual machine.
>
> How do we do this?
>
>
Beyond what has been suggested before me on this thread, you can also
rescue-boot both the old and the new system that has a disk
same-size-or-larger, and just bit-copy the hard drive as a whole (including
partition table) over the network, without passing through an 'image'
stage. You can either do so securely (but slower) over SSH, or in plaintext
if your network is secure (using netcat). See:
https://www.thegeekdiary.com/how-to-clone-linux-disk-partition-over-network-using-dd/
.

Note: The above tutorial suggests using compression when SSH is not
involved (not sure why the difference in approaches), which you may wish to
consider removing from the pipeline, especially if cloning over fast LAN -
as there's a good chance that the compression, which /may/ not reduce the
data volume transferred much (unless you're looking at lots of space that
is filled with a static pattern like zeros) and the CPU may become the
bottleneck instead of the network, and then, מה הועילו חכמים בתקנתם?

DISCLAIMER: Make sure you understand what you do, so you'll not by mistake
write TO the source disk from the target (or from nowhere...), overwriting
all your data. :) I would say it wouldn't be a problem if you kept backups,
but the original question suggests that one may not be available in this
case... so, be careful. As a rule of thumb, the dd _of=_ parameter on the
_SOURCE_ should NEVER point to anything local, and quite frankly, should
NEVER appear on the source altogether...

HTH,

-- Shimi
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Re: How to image a linux computer

2023-11-05 Thread Michael Shiloh
Thanks Ori and Shimi; I've forwarded your suggestions to my friend.

Your help is much appreciated.



On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 3:16 PM shimi  wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 9:35 AM Michael Shiloh 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on
>> old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this
>> risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run it
>> in a virtual machine.
>>
>> How do we do this?
>>
>>
> Beyond what has been suggested before me on this thread, you can also
> rescue-boot both the old and the new system that has a disk
> same-size-or-larger, and just bit-copy the hard drive as a whole (including
> partition table) over the network, without passing through an 'image'
> stage. You can either do so securely (but slower) over SSH, or in plaintext
> if your network is secure (using netcat). See:
> https://www.thegeekdiary.com/how-to-clone-linux-disk-partition-over-network-using-dd/
> .
>
> Note: The above tutorial suggests using compression when SSH is not
> involved (not sure why the difference in approaches), which you may wish to
> consider removing from the pipeline, especially if cloning over fast LAN -
> as there's a good chance that the compression, which /may/ not reduce the
> data volume transferred much (unless you're looking at lots of space that
> is filled with a static pattern like zeros) and the CPU may become the
> bottleneck instead of the network, and then, מה הועילו חכמים בתקנתם?
>
> DISCLAIMER: Make sure you understand what you do, so you'll not by mistake
> write TO the source disk from the target (or from nowhere...), overwriting
> all your data. :) I would say it wouldn't be a problem if you kept backups,
> but the original question suggests that one may not be available in this
> case... so, be careful. As a rule of thumb, the dd _of=_ parameter on the
> _SOURCE_ should NEVER point to anything local, and quite frankly, should
> NEVER appear on the source altogether...
>
> HTH,
>
> -- Shimi
>
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Re: How to image a linux computer

2023-11-05 Thread Shay Gover
Use clonezilla.
Before cloning:
1) Remove gpu drivers
2) Remove microcode package
3) You might need to change partition id or disk id in the bootloader.


On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 1:50 PM Michael Shiloh 
wrote:

> Thanks Ori and Shimi; I've forwarded your suggestions to my friend.
>
> Your help is much appreciated.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 3:16 PM shimi  wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 9:35 AM Michael Shiloh <
>> michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on
>>> old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this
>>> risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run it
>>> in a virtual machine.
>>>
>>> How do we do this?
>>>
>>>
>> Beyond what has been suggested before me on this thread, you can also
>> rescue-boot both the old and the new system that has a disk
>> same-size-or-larger, and just bit-copy the hard drive as a whole (including
>> partition table) over the network, without passing through an 'image'
>> stage. You can either do so securely (but slower) over SSH, or in plaintext
>> if your network is secure (using netcat). See:
>> https://www.thegeekdiary.com/how-to-clone-linux-disk-partition-over-network-using-dd/
>> .
>>
>> Note: The above tutorial suggests using compression when SSH is not
>> involved (not sure why the difference in approaches), which you may wish to
>> consider removing from the pipeline, especially if cloning over fast LAN -
>> as there's a good chance that the compression, which /may/ not reduce the
>> data volume transferred much (unless you're looking at lots of space that
>> is filled with a static pattern like zeros) and the CPU may become the
>> bottleneck instead of the network, and then, מה הועילו חכמים בתקנתם?
>>
>> DISCLAIMER: Make sure you understand what you do, so you'll not by
>> mistake write TO the source disk from the target (or from nowhere...),
>> overwriting all your data. :) I would say it wouldn't be a problem if you
>> kept backups, but the original question suggests that one may not be
>> available in this case... so, be careful. As a rule of thumb, the dd _of=_
>> parameter on the _SOURCE_ should NEVER point to anything local, and quite
>> frankly, should NEVER appear on the source altogether...
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> -- Shimi
>>
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Re: How to image a linux computer

2023-11-05 Thread Michael Shiloh
Thanks Shay

On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 3:56 PM Shay Gover  wrote:

> Use clonezilla.
> Before cloning:
> 1) Remove gpu drivers
> 2) Remove microcode package
> 3) You might need to change partition id or disk id in the bootloader.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 1:50 PM Michael Shiloh 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Ori and Shimi; I've forwarded your suggestions to my friend.
>>
>> Your help is much appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2023 at 3:16 PM shimi  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 9:35 AM Michael Shiloh <
>>> michaelshiloh1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hello all,

 Situation: We have a linux computer with various software installed on
 old hardware that may malfunction and be unsupported. To mitigate this
 risk, we would like to make an image of this machine so that we can run it
 in a virtual machine.

 How do we do this?


>>> Beyond what has been suggested before me on this thread, you can also
>>> rescue-boot both the old and the new system that has a disk
>>> same-size-or-larger, and just bit-copy the hard drive as a whole (including
>>> partition table) over the network, without passing through an 'image'
>>> stage. You can either do so securely (but slower) over SSH, or in plaintext
>>> if your network is secure (using netcat). See:
>>> https://www.thegeekdiary.com/how-to-clone-linux-disk-partition-over-network-using-dd/
>>> .
>>>
>>> Note: The above tutorial suggests using compression when SSH is not
>>> involved (not sure why the difference in approaches), which you may wish to
>>> consider removing from the pipeline, especially if cloning over fast LAN -
>>> as there's a good chance that the compression, which /may/ not reduce the
>>> data volume transferred much (unless you're looking at lots of space that
>>> is filled with a static pattern like zeros) and the CPU may become the
>>> bottleneck instead of the network, and then, מה הועילו חכמים בתקנתם?
>>>
>>> DISCLAIMER: Make sure you understand what you do, so you'll not by
>>> mistake write TO the source disk from the target (or from nowhere...),
>>> overwriting all your data. :) I would say it wouldn't be a problem if you
>>> kept backups, but the original question suggests that one may not be
>>> available in this case... so, be careful. As a rule of thumb, the dd _of=_
>>> parameter on the _SOURCE_ should NEVER point to anything local, and quite
>>> frankly, should NEVER appear on the source altogether...
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>>
>>> -- Shimi
>>>
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