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Re: RavKav Online

2017-03-08 Thread Efraim Flashner

$ ldd ravkavonline/usr/bin/ravkavonline
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fffaf2df000)
libpcsclite.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcsclite.so.1 
(0x7f665b623000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 
(0x7f665b406000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7f665b068000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x7f665ae64000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x7f665ac5c000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x5567dfd74000)

libpcsc-lite.so.1 works with a smart-card reader. I have no idea where
linux-vdso.so.1 is from, but the rest can be found in glibc (and with
the license text suggesting the program is written in GO). I haven't
checked out opal.com.au, but does it allow refilling your card from the
website without a card reader?


On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 03:21:05PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:
> Why do they need a client anyway?
> What does the special client do that a browser can't?
> 
> I suppose the parallel here in Sydney is https://www.opal.com.au/ and it
> all works from the browser.
> Even the "mobile support" is just a mobile view of the same web site at
> https://m.opal.com.au/
> 
> On 8 March 2017 at 05:53, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> 
> > Efraim Flashner wrote on Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 14:56:17 +0200:
> > > grumble grumble .deb only.
> >
> > It's a binary blob:
> >
> > % find
> > .
> > ./usr
> > ./usr/bin
> > ./usr/bin/ravkavonline
> > ./usr/share
> > ./usr/share/doc
> > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline
> > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/LICENSE.txt
> > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/changelog.gz
> > ./usr/share/applications
> > ./usr/share/applications/ravkavonline.desktop
> > % file usr/bin/ravkavonline
> > usr/bin/ravkavonline: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV),
> > dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux
> > 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=3b16f56a9473ef060b60c7ae071ec861bb78e9ad, stripped
> > % zcat ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/changelog.gz | wc -l
> > 0
> > %
> >
> > So yeah, it's a step in the right direction, but they have a lot of room
> > for improvement.
> >
> > Somebody should reach out and ask them to improve things for 1.2.0.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> > > Still happy that we're at least represented.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Yehuda Deutsch wrote:
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > They finally identify the OS correctly in the website.
> > > >
> > > > Yehuda
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *Yehuda Deutsch | IT Developer*
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Dimid Duchovny 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Just noticed this:
> > > > > https://ravkavonline.co.il/releases/linux/
> > > > >
> > > > > 2016-02-15 22:38 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman :
> > > > >
> > > > >> Great Job, Yaron!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2016-02-15 10:06 GMT+02:00 Yaron de Leeuw :
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I have managed to get it working on ArchLinux, and adapting the
> > solution
> > > > >>> to
> > > > >>> other distributions should be trivial.
> > > > >>> https://github.com/jarondl/ravkav_linux
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I have also emailed their support to ask for official linux
> > packages,
> > > > >>> and I encourage
> > > > >>> you all to do so as well.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Thank you Dimid Duchovny for finding the Mac OS installation
> > package and
> > > > >>> posting their url on the list.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Yaron
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
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Re: RavKav Online

2017-03-08 Thread Amos Shapira

I registered by Opal cards on the web site so it's possible to refill
online without a card reader.
If I haven't registered them then I can only refill them in a store with a
card reader.
(registering online also allows me to get auto-refill and have the credit
insured and reimbursed in case I report the card lost).
Are you saying that all users who want to refill by themselves have to own
a card reader?

On 8 March 2017 at 19:59, Efraim Flashner  wrote:

> $ ldd ravkavonline/usr/bin/ravkavonline
> linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fffaf2df000)
> libpcsclite.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcsclite.so.1
> (0x7f665b623000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
> (0x7f665b406000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7f665b068000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
> (0x7f665ae64000)
> librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1
> (0x7f665ac5c000)
> /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x5567dfd74000)
>
> libpcsc-lite.so.1 works with a smart-card reader. I have no idea where
> linux-vdso.so.1 is from, but the rest can be found in glibc (and with
> the license text suggesting the program is written in GO). I haven't
> checked out opal.com.au, but does it allow refilling your card from the
> website without a card reader?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 03:21:05PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > Why do they need a client anyway?
> > What does the special client do that a browser can't?
> >
> > I suppose the parallel here in Sydney is https://www.opal.com.au/ and it
> > all works from the browser.
> > Even the "mobile support" is just a mobile view of the same web site at
> > https://m.opal.com.au/
> >
> > On 8 March 2017 at 05:53, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> >
> > > Efraim Flashner wrote on Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 14:56:17 +0200:
> > > > grumble grumble .deb only.
> > >
> > > It's a binary blob:
> > >
> > > % find
> > > .
> > > ./usr
> > > ./usr/bin
> > > ./usr/bin/ravkavonline
> > > ./usr/share
> > > ./usr/share/doc
> > > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline
> > > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/LICENSE.txt
> > > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/changelog.gz
> > > ./usr/share/applications
> > > ./usr/share/applications/ravkavonline.desktop
> > > % file usr/bin/ravkavonline
> > > usr/bin/ravkavonline: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1
> (SYSV),
> > > dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for
> GNU/Linux
> > > 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=3b16f56a9473ef060b60c7ae071ec861bb78e9ad,
> stripped
> > > % zcat ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/changelog.gz | wc -l
> > > 0
> > > %
> > >
> > > So yeah, it's a step in the right direction, but they have a lot of
> room
> > > for improvement.
> > >
> > > Somebody should reach out and ask them to improve things for 1.2.0.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > > > Still happy that we're at least represented.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Yehuda Deutsch wrote:
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > They finally identify the OS correctly in the website.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yehuda
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > *Yehuda Deutsch | IT Developer*
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Dimid Duchovny 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just noticed this:
> > > > > > https://ravkavonline.co.il/releases/linux/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2016-02-15 22:38 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman :
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Great Job, Yaron!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thanks!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2016-02-15 10:06 GMT+02:00 Yaron de Leeuw :
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have managed to get it working on ArchLinux, and adapting the
> > > solution
> > > > > >>> to
> > > > > >>> other distributions should be trivial.
> > > > > >>> https://github.com/jarondl/ravkav_linux
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> I have also emailed their support to ask for official linux
> > > packages,
> > > > > >>> and I encourage
> > > > > >>> you all to do so as well.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Thank you Dimid Duchovny for finding the Mac OS installation
> > > package and
> > > > > >>> posting their url on the list.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Yaron
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ___
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> > > > > > Linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il
> > > > > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Efraim Flashner  אפרים פלשנר
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> > > > Confidentiality cannot be guaranteed on emails sent or received
> > > unencrypted
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> > >

Re: RavKav Online

2017-03-08 Thread Efraim Flashner

It would appear that if you choose to refill them at home then you need
to go to a rav-kav "store" and buy one of their 10 shekel card readers.

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 01:05:47PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:
> I registered by Opal cards on the web site so it's possible to refill
> online without a card reader.
> If I haven't registered them then I can only refill them in a store with a
> card reader.
> (registering online also allows me to get auto-refill and have the credit
> insured and reimbursed in case I report the card lost).
> Are you saying that all users who want to refill by themselves have to own
> a card reader?
> 
> On 8 March 2017 at 19:59, Efraim Flashner  wrote:
> 
> > $ ldd ravkavonline/usr/bin/ravkavonline
> > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7fffaf2df000)
> > libpcsclite.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcsclite.so.1
> > (0x7f665b623000)
> > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
> > (0x7f665b406000)
> > libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7f665b068000)
> > libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
> > (0x7f665ae64000)
> > librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1
> > (0x7f665ac5c000)
> > /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x5567dfd74000)
> >
> > libpcsc-lite.so.1 works with a smart-card reader. I have no idea where
> > linux-vdso.so.1 is from, but the rest can be found in glibc (and with
> > the license text suggesting the program is written in GO). I haven't
> > checked out opal.com.au, but does it allow refilling your card from the
> > website without a card reader?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 03:21:05PM +1100, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > > Why do they need a client anyway?
> > > What does the special client do that a browser can't?
> > >
> > > I suppose the parallel here in Sydney is https://www.opal.com.au/ and it
> > > all works from the browser.
> > > Even the "mobile support" is just a mobile view of the same web site at
> > > https://m.opal.com.au/
> > >
> > > On 8 March 2017 at 05:53, Daniel Shahaf  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Efraim Flashner wrote on Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 14:56:17 +0200:
> > > > > grumble grumble .deb only.
> > > >
> > > > It's a binary blob:
> > > >
> > > > % find
> > > > .
> > > > ./usr
> > > > ./usr/bin
> > > > ./usr/bin/ravkavonline
> > > > ./usr/share
> > > > ./usr/share/doc
> > > > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline
> > > > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/LICENSE.txt
> > > > ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/changelog.gz
> > > > ./usr/share/applications
> > > > ./usr/share/applications/ravkavonline.desktop
> > > > % file usr/bin/ravkavonline
> > > > usr/bin/ravkavonline: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1
> > (SYSV),
> > > > dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for
> > GNU/Linux
> > > > 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=3b16f56a9473ef060b60c7ae071ec861bb78e9ad,
> > stripped
> > > > % zcat ./usr/share/doc/ravkavonline/changelog.gz | wc -l
> > > > 0
> > > > %
> > > >
> > > > So yeah, it's a step in the right direction, but they have a lot of
> > room
> > > > for improvement.
> > > >
> > > > Somebody should reach out and ask them to improve things for 1.2.0.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Still happy that we're at least represented.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 07, 2017 at 10:21:42AM +0200, Yehuda Deutsch wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They finally identify the OS correctly in the website.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yehuda
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *Yehuda Deutsch | IT Developer*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:08 AM, Dimid Duchovny 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just noticed this:
> > > > > > > https://ravkavonline.co.il/releases/linux/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2016-02-15 22:38 GMT+02:00 Amichai Rotman :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Great Job, Yaron!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 2016-02-15 10:06 GMT+02:00 Yaron de Leeuw :
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Hi.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I have managed to get it working on ArchLinux, and adapting the
> > > > solution
> > > > > > >>> to
> > > > > > >>> other distributions should be trivial.
> > > > > > >>> https://github.com/jarondl/ravkav_linux
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I have also emailed their support to ask for official linux
> > > > packages,
> > > > > > >>> and I encourage
> > > > > > >>> you all to do so as well.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Thank you Dimid Duchovny for finding the Mac OS installation
> > > > package and
> > > > > > >>> posting their url on the list.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Yaron
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>


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