Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hello, Nadav,
> Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for >$160.
>For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-> based server in 
>one package.

What do you mean by "ARM-based server" here ? I don't sure
I understand. Does this product include some tiny ARM server?
Do you have access to this server by telnet/ssh, and is there a BSP
open source package ? I see you have ethernet connection there.
I look in WD site, and I don't see that they mention an ARM
based server there:

http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280


Can you please give a link/elaborate about the product you are talking about ?

rgs
DS

For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
server in one package.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Nadav Har'El  wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012, David Suna wrote about "Home made NAS":
>> I have a bunch of old machines lying around which are currently just
>> collecting dust.  I would like to collect the disks from all of
>> them, put them together into a single server to act as a file server
>
> A couple of years I started doing something similar to what you are planning.
> I took an old computer, and stuck in it a bunch of hard disks I had from
> previous years - one was 1 terabyte, another 300 gigabyte, and a third
> 80 gigabytes. The computer ran Linux, and served files (mostly CDs and DVDs)
> on my home network with NFS and Samba.
>
> But then I realized how annoying this setup was: the computer was very big,
> noisy, and had to be on all the time. The old disks (especially the 80
> gigabytes) were a joke, and I all three disks summed together were
> smaller than a just new disk I could buy.
>
> Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for $160.
>
> For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
> server in one package. The package is 10 times smaller than my old computer,
> nearly silent, and uses up less electricity, and came preconfigured with
> the server software (it runs Linux, but you don't have direct access to
> it).
>
> So in my opinion, unless you're completely broke, and/or treating this
> as nothing more than an educational experience, building a NAS out of
> old equipment is waste of your energy.
>
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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
2012/12/5 Dan Shimshoni :
> Hello, Nadav,
>> Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for >$160.
>>For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-> based server 
>>in one package.
>
> What do you mean by "ARM-based server" here ? I don't sure
> I understand. Does this product include some tiny ARM server?
> Do you have access to this server by telnet/ssh, and is there a BSP
> open source package ? I see you have ethernet connection there.
> I look in WD site, and I don't see that they mention an ARM
> based server there:
>
> http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280
>
>
> Can you please give a link/elaborate about the product you are talking about ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD_TV
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wd+live+debian

Basically it's a disk + server to handle cifs/nfs
Regards,
Eliyahu - אליהו
>
> rgs
> DS
>
> For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
> server in one package.
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Nadav Har'El  wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012, David Suna wrote about "Home made NAS":
>>> I have a bunch of old machines lying around which are currently just
>>> collecting dust.  I would like to collect the disks from all of
>>> them, put them together into a single server to act as a file server
>>
>> A couple of years I started doing something similar to what you are planning.
>> I took an old computer, and stuck in it a bunch of hard disks I had from
>> previous years - one was 1 terabyte, another 300 gigabyte, and a third
>> 80 gigabytes. The computer ran Linux, and served files (mostly CDs and DVDs)
>> on my home network with NFS and Samba.
>>
>> But then I realized how annoying this setup was: the computer was very big,
>> noisy, and had to be on all the time. The old disks (especially the 80
>> gigabytes) were a joke, and I all three disks summed together were
>> smaller than a just new disk I could buy.
>>
>> Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for $160.
>>
>> For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
>> server in one package. The package is 10 times smaller than my old computer,
>> nearly silent, and uses up less electricity, and came preconfigured with
>> the server software (it runs Linux, but you don't have direct access to
>> it).
>>
>> So in my opinion, unless you're completely broke, and/or treating this
>> as nothing more than an educational experience, building a NAS out of
>> old equipment is waste of your energy.
>>
>> --
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>> 5773
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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Moish  wrote:
> On 04/12/2012 21:27, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>>
>> According to research done by google and also in my experience a
>> normal harddisk (spinner) that has functioned without failures for 3
>> years will generally last for a very long time
>
> Better read this article first (from 2007)
> http://storagemojo.com/2007/02/19/googles-disk-failure-experience/

As a word of warning, it is usually better to link to the actual paper
(quite a famous one in this case),
http://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf, and not to a
blog about it by someone who mixes up mean and median (he is honest
enough to acknowledge it after it was pointed out to him, but the text
was not changed).

To the point, there is very little that this particular paper says on
the topic of how much more likely old disks are to die. There is a
wealth of research papers on the subject, and the notion of "bathtube
curve" (new disks failing often - the so-called "infant mortality" -
then flat life expectancy and then old disks failing more often again)
is encountered commonly. If one assumes that the OPs "old" disks are
operational then it well may be that they have survived the "infancy"
and have some life in them.

One thing that the Google paper shows is that temperature
(overheating) affects older disks more than newer ones. One may assume
that a home setup in old boxes, with faulty fans, etc., this may
affect reliability adversely.

All of the above is probably negligible compared to two important
arguments that have already been mentioned: 1) as a home appliance
there are better, more economical, and - most importantly! - quieter
solutions for a modest price; 2) tinkering with such a heterogeneous
system will yield invaluable experience, especially in terms of never
trying anything like this for anything important.

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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:



All of the above is probably negligible compared to two important
arguments that have already been mentioned: 1) as a home appliance
there are better, more economical, and - most importantly! - quieter
solutions for a modest price; 2) tinkering with such a heterogeneous
system will yield invaluable experience, especially in terms of never
trying anything like this for anything important.




I want to point out that disk failure statistics may be less useful than 
one would think. The majority of hard disks came from a factory in 
Thailand which was wiped out by a flood about 2-3 years ago.


This caused a large rise in the price of disks, and the reamining 
manufacturers scrambling to produce more disks from existing factories 
at lower prices.


The price of hard disks has yet to be as low as it was.

Since those "new" disks have not been around long enough for long term 
failure statistics, I would be careful using the old ones.


BTW, in an unrelated discussion somewhere else two days ago, several 
professional sysadmins I know recommended OpenIndiana (an open source 
fork of Solaris) and ZFS for home NAS's.


Geoff.

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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread vordoo

  
  

On 2012-12-05 12:48, Geoffrey S.
  Mendelson wrote:

BTW,
  in an unrelated discussion somewhere else two days ago, several
  professional sysadmins I know recommended OpenIndiana (an open
  source fork of Solaris) and ZFS for home NAS's.
  
  
  Geoff
Yep, I like OpenIndiana/ZFS. But, the recommended 64-bit sys & a
lot of RAM, kind of kills the "give the old HW new life" thing :-)
& new HW for that setup may be an overkill for home usage.


  


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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Udi Finkelstein
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-reviews/31314-wd-my-book-live-reviewed
http://mybookworld.wikidot.com/mybook-live

It has a 1GHz ARM and 256MB of RAM (No USB though).

Udi

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Dan Shimshoni  wrote:

> Hello, Nadav,
> > Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for >$160.
> >For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-> based
> server in one package.
>
> What do you mean by "ARM-based server" here ? I don't sure
> I understand. Does this product include some tiny ARM server?
> Do you have access to this server by telnet/ssh, and is there a BSP
> open source package ? I see you have ethernet connection there.
> I look in WD site, and I don't see that they mention an ARM
> based server there:
>
> http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280
>
>
> Can you please give a link/elaborate about the product you are talking
> about ?
>
> rgs
> DS
>
> For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
> server in one package.
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Nadav Har'El 
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 04, 2012, David Suna wrote about "Home made NAS":
> >> I have a bunch of old machines lying around which are currently just
> >> collecting dust.  I would like to collect the disks from all of
> >> them, put them together into a single server to act as a file server
> >
> > A couple of years I started doing something similar to what you are
> planning.
> > I took an old computer, and stuck in it a bunch of hard disks I had from
> > previous years - one was 1 terabyte, another 300 gigabyte, and a third
> > 80 gigabytes. The computer ran Linux, and served files (mostly CDs and
> DVDs)
> > on my home network with NFS and Samba.
> >
> > But then I realized how annoying this setup was: the computer was very
> big,
> > noisy, and had to be on all the time. The old disks (especially the 80
> > gigabytes) were a joke, and I all three disks summed together were
> > smaller than a just new disk I could buy.
> >
> > Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for $160.
> >
> > For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
> > server in one package. The package is 10 times smaller than my old
> computer,
> > nearly silent, and uses up less electricity, and came preconfigured with
> > the server software (it runs Linux, but you don't have direct access to
> > it).
> >
> > So in my opinion, unless you're completely broke, and/or treating this
> > as nothing more than an educational experience, building a NAS out of
> > old equipment is waste of your energy.
> >
> > --
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> Kislev 5773
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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread E.S. Rosenberg
2012/12/5 vordoo :
>
> On 2012-12-05 12:48, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
>
> BTW, in an unrelated discussion somewhere else two days ago, several
> professional sysadmins I know recommended OpenIndiana (an open source fork
> of Solaris) and ZFS for home NAS's.
>
> Geoff
>
> Yep, I like OpenIndiana/ZFS. But, the recommended 64-bit sys & a lot of RAM,
> kind of kills the "give the old HW new life" thing :-) & new HW for that
> setup may be an overkill for home usage.
These days old hw can also be 64b (Athlon64 was released almost sept.
2003 - how time flies).
But if you need 64b I would just go for some Via Nano, AMD E-series or
some of the Intel Atom series cpus, they have x86-64 support and
except for the Atom these CPUs support out-of-order execution which
also can boost performance considerably.
In addition these systems are generally cheap and the electricity
savings will probably cover the difference between recycling your old
hw and buying a new motherboard+ram...

As a side tangent: has anyone here started playing with btrfs yet?
Regards,
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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread vordoo

  
  
On 2012-12-05 12:31, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

  
As a word of warning, it is usually better to link to the actual paper
(quite a famous one in this case),
http://research.google.com/archive/disk_failures.pdf, and not to a
blog about it by someone who mixes up mean and median (he is honest
enough to acknowledge it after it was pointed out to him, but the text
was not changed).


As a word of warning ;-) I actually prefer the blog link as I can
easily Google the original "famous paper". This way I got to read a
good blog sum-up + threads on the paper too.

Different strokes to earn the world.

Thanks!
  


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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson
 wrote:

> Since those "new" disks have not been around long enough for long term
> failure statistics, I would be careful using the old ones.

The failure statistics papers I know of predate the Thai flood and so
are applicable to the older disks 9to the extent that they are
applicable at all).

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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:40 PM, vordoo  wrote:

> As a word of warning ;-) I actually prefer the blog link as I can easily
> Google the original "famous paper". This way I got to read a good blog
> sum-up + threads on the paper too.

I was seriously put off by the guy's attempt to explain what MTBF was,
very incorrectly. I read it, and I had read the paper. I didn't find
it a good summary, but YMMV. The blog does contain a link to the
paper.

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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Josh Roden
A few years ago I was very disappointed when I bought a WD My Book and found
out that it was only able to do 3MB a sec max - real bummer.

Josh

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 04, 2012, David Suna wrote about "Home made NAS":
> > I have a bunch of old machines lying around which are currently just
> > collecting dust.  I would like to collect the disks from all of
> > them, put them together into a single server to act as a file server
>
> A couple of years I started doing something similar to what you are
> planning.
> I took an old computer, and stuck in it a bunch of hard disks I had from
> previous years - one was 1 terabyte, another 300 gigabyte, and a third
> 80 gigabytes. The computer ran Linux, and served files (mostly CDs and
> DVDs)
> on my home network with NFS and Samba.
>
> But then I realized how annoying this setup was: the computer was very big,
> noisy, and had to be on all the time. The old disks (especially the 80
> gigabytes) were a joke, and I all three disks summed together were
> smaller than a just new disk I could buy.
>
> Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for $160.
>
> For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
> server in one package. The package is 10 times smaller than my old
> computer,
> nearly silent, and uses up less electricity, and came preconfigured with
> the server software (it runs Linux, but you don't have direct access to
> it).
>
> So in my opinion, unless you're completely broke, and/or treating this
> as nothing more than an educational experience, building a NAS out of
> old equipment is waste of your energy.
>
> --
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> 5773
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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Wed, Dec 05, 2012, Dan Shimshoni wrote about "Re: Home made NAS":
> Hello, Nadav,
> > Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for >$160.
> >For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-> based server 
> >in one package.
> 
> What do you mean by "ARM-based server" here ? I don't sure
> I understand. Does this product include some tiny ARM server?

The WD My Book Live (you can look it up on the Web...) is a small
device, about twice the size of a hard disk. You plug it to the
electricity, and to the network (Ethernet). Inside it it contains
a hard disk (you don't need to, and can't, buy it separately), and
some sort of processor running prepackaged software which serves the
files with NFS or SMB, presents a Web interface, and so on.

While I heard the prepackaged software is based on Linux, I never
tried to "hack" it and modify the software or verify the type of
processor. Frankly, I don't really care about the processor or software -
I already have a general-purpose desktop for doing everything else, and
all I need this NAS to do is NAS, which it already does well.

> Do you have access to this server by telnet/ssh, and is there a BSP
> open source package ?

I have no idea. I assume that some hobbyists already managed to hack
this device, but like I said, I never really cared - it already does
pretty well everything I wanted to do.

> I see you have ethernet connection there.
> I look in WD site, and I don't see that they mention an ARM
> based server there:

It obviously has *some* processor - it's a full-fleged filesystem, HTTP, 
SMB and NFS servers. I thought it was ARM but I'm no longer sure:
according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Digital_My_Book,
"My Book Live uses Applied Micro APM82181 processor working at 1 GHz and
has 256 MB of RAM." Apparently you're right - it's not ARM but actually,
believe it or not, a type of powerpc. But who cares - the only thing
important is that it runs Linux :-)

A short Google search turns up that people have indeed been able to
log into the Linux running on this device, 

> http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280
> 
> Can you please give a link/elaborate about the product you are talking about ?

Here the link to my review on Amazon of the 2TB model:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1ABMTXISNZY6M/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm

A 3 TB model is already available, and if you have patience you may get
it for as low as $160 (last week on B&H...).

You can also get a two-disk version (with RAID support), with 4-8 TB
versions (the 8 TB one was released yesterday, and contains WD's newly
announced 4 TB disks).

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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread David Suna


On 12/4/2012 10:43 AM, David Suna wrote:
I have a bunch of old machines lying around which are currently just 
collecting dust.  I would like to collect the disks from all of them, 
put them together into a single server to act as a file server / NAS 
on our home network.  There would probably be a combination of IDE and 
SATA drives.  What would you recommend as the best way to achieve this 
(with minimal cash outlay).  The home network is a mixed Windows and 
Linux environment so I assume I would run Linux on the new server and 
provide access to the disks via SAMBA.  For now the main function of 
the server would be to serve as a place to do backups.  I have never 
done anything with RAID so I don't know if that is something that I 
should take into consideration (especially as the disks are of varying 
sizes).


Any information, suggestions or pointers would be appreciated.  I am 
viewing this as a learning experience (in addition to making use of 
old hardware for a positive purpose). 

Thank you all for all the useful information.

The consensus seems to be that the only real value in doing this would 
be for the learning experience as the cost benefit does not fall in 
favor of using old hardware.   Since that is not my priority at the 
moment I will give it a pass.


Thanks again.

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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Moish

On 05/12/2012 12:11, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:

2012/12/5 Dan Shimshoni :

Hello, Nadav,

Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for >$160.
For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-> based server in 
one package.


What do you mean by "ARM-based server" here ? I don't sure
I understand. Does this product include some tiny ARM server?
Do you have access to this server by telnet/ssh, and is there a BSP
open source package ? I see you have ethernet connection there.
I look in WD site, and I don't see that they mention an ARM
based server there:

http://wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=280


Can you please give a link/elaborate about the product you are talking about ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD_TV
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wd+live+debian

Basically it's a disk + server to handle cifs/nfs
Regards,
Eliyahu - אליהו


rgs
DS

For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
server in one package.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Nadav Har'El  wrote:

On Tue, Dec 04, 2012, David Suna wrote about "Home made NAS":

 I have a bunch of old machines lying around which are currently just
 collecting dust.  I would like to collect the disks from all of
 them, put them together into a single server to act as a file server


A couple of years I started doing something similar to what you are planning.
I took an old computer, and stuck in it a bunch of hard disks I had from
previous years - one was 1 terabyte, another 300 gigabyte, and a third
80 gigabytes. The computer ran Linux, and served files (mostly CDs and DVDs)
on my home network with NFS and Samba.

But then I realized how annoying this setup was: the computer was very big,
noisy, and had to be on all the time. The old disks (especially the 80
gigabytes) were a joke, and I all three disks summed together were
smaller than a just new disk I could buy.

Instead, I decided to buy a 2-terabyte WD My Book Live for $160.

For this price, I got both the 2TB hard-disk and a tiny (ARM-based)
server in one package. The package is 10 times smaller than my old computer,
nearly silent, and uses up less electricity, and came preconfigured with
the server software (it runs Linux, but you don't have direct access to
it).

So in my opinion, unless you're completely broke, and/or treating this
as nothing more than an educational experience, building a NAS out of
old equipment is waste of your energy.

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I use WD MyBook Duo 2x3T.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=620
Transfer rate more than enough for HD over N-wireless network.

On A side note:
Above storage is used (among other devices) by two Apple Tv 2 (jb with 
Xbmc) and for fun, I will
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greaskmonkey for iba site

2012-12-05 Thread sara fink
Someone knows if there is a greasemonkey script for iba.org.il site?
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Re: greaskmonkey for iba site

2012-12-05 Thread Mord Behar
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:45 PM, sara fink  wrote:

> Someone knows if there is a greasemonkey script for iba.org.il site?
>

My Greasefire says no. At least not anything useful.
What, in particular, do you want a script to do?


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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Ori Berger

On 12/05/2012 08:00 AM, Moish wrote:

I use WD MyBook Duo 2x3T.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=620
Transfer rate more than enough for HD over N-wireless network.

On A side note:
Above storage is used (among other devices) by two Apple Tv 2 (jb with
Xbmc) and for fun, I will
add a Raspberry Pi model B which cost me almost 50$ in the USA. (ATV2
cost 103$ w/tax)



For those going the DIY route, older PogoPlugs can often be found for 
between $12-$25 in the US (new from the store; they've spent the last 
year clearing this inventory). These things come with Linux and some 
software that lets you pierce firewall and access them from everywhere 
(which is useful), as well as some photo and video conversion software.


You can reflash them with debian if you want full control. They are rock 
solid, completely silent, 6W maximum draw (with 4 portable USB powered 
drives), ARM with 128MB or 256MB (depending on model), with 1Gb ethernet 
and 4 USB 2.0 - perfect with 1-2TB portable drives.


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Re: greaskmonkey for iba site

2012-12-05 Thread sara fink
to play programs (in this case it's audio). It requires flash by adobe. I
found a very useful script called free youtube that works in combination
with greasemonkey and shows video without shockwave/adobe flash. The same
goes for vimeo and mako site.

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/34765
http://ossguy.com/?p=172





On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Mord Behar  wrote:

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> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:45 PM, sara fink  wrote:
>
>> Someone knows if there is a greasemonkey script for iba.org.il site?
>>
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> My Greasefire says no. At least not anything useful.
> What, in particular, do you want a script to do?
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Re: Home made NAS

2012-12-05 Thread Moish

On 05/12/2012 23:55, Ori Berger wrote:

On 12/05/2012 08:00 AM, Moish wrote:

I use WD MyBook Duo 2x3T.
http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.aspx?id=620
Transfer rate more than enough for HD over N-wireless network.

On A side note:
Above storage is used (among other devices) by two Apple Tv 2 (jb with
Xbmc) and for fun, I will
add a Raspberry Pi model B which cost me almost 50$ in the USA. (ATV2
cost 103$ w/tax)



For those going the DIY route, older PogoPlugs can often be found for
between $12-$25 in the US (new from the store; they've spent the last
year clearing this inventory). These things come with Linux and some
software that lets you pierce firewall and access them from everywhere
(which is useful), as well as some photo and video conversion software.

You can reflash them with debian if you want full control. They are rock
solid, completely silent, 6W maximum draw (with 4 portable USB powered
drives), ARM with 128MB or 256MB (depending on model), with 1Gb ethernet
and 4 USB 2.0 - perfect with 1-2TB portable drives.

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Pogoplugs also have Sata connector on board.
Support can be found in 
http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/pogoplug-v2-pinkgray.

USB 2.0 is slow for a file server.
The original implementation is lame to my taste.
You can't really flash new OS but rather boot it from a DOK or a Sata disk.


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