Shekem Electric selling desktops with Linux

2009-10-31 Thread Gabor Szabo
I usually don't think much of the big electronic networks when it comes
to buying a computer but yesterday why flipping through the week-end
papers I pleasantly surprised that Shekem Electric is selling
Acer desktops with Linux installed.

http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1326
http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1325


Does anyone here have experience with them?


Gabor

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Re: Shekem Electric selling desktops with Linux

2009-10-31 Thread Boaz Rymland
I can add that when searching for Linux powered laptops here I found 
that several stores (not the big elec. chains stores IIRC) sell linux 
powered Acer laptops. These laptops, and I suspect that the desktop as 
well, have Linpus on them. They also, probably, contain some binary 
drivers from Acer, which isn't open source nor can I be sure they're 
install-able on other linux distros easily.


Eventually, since I want to have as hassle-free Linux OS as I can (I 
don't miss my Gentoo days... :-), I installed Ubuntu on an Acer laptop 
(thankfully, almost all HW is supported on it, to a workable degree) and 
they (we) all live(d) happily ever after.


Boaz.

Gabor Szabo wrote:

I usually don't think much of the big electronic networks when it comes
to buying a computer but yesterday why flipping through the week-end
papers I pleasantly surprised that Shekem Electric is selling
Acer desktops with Linux installed.

http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1326
http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1325


Does anyone here have experience with them?


Gabor

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Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-31 Thread Diego Iastrubni
On Friday 30 October 2009 01:40:07 Oron Peled wrote:
> > I rather hate NetworkManager, too ;-). However, from
> > the system point of view, I'd naively expect hal, udev, dbus, network,
> > etc. to work without a "policy kit" developed by GUI people (I
> > understand it comes from Gnome).

...

> However, you are correct that it's easy to see its GNOME origins. There
> is no command line client. This is not because the design is bad
> or architectural limitations --- nobody bothered writing one yet.

You can try wicd, I tested it under Debian and it was "pretty good". I don't 
know how it will break Fedroa by killing NetworkManager and installing wicd.



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Re: Shekem Electric selling desktops with Linux

2009-10-31 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Cute, but no prices there...

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Gabor Szabo  wrote:

> I usually don't think much of the big electronic networks when it comes
> to buying a computer but yesterday why flipping through the week-end
> papers I pleasantly surprised that Shekem Electric is selling
> Acer desktops with Linux installed.
>
> http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1326
> http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1325
>
>
> Does anyone here have experience with them?
>
>
> Gabor
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Re: Shekem Electric selling desktops with Linux

2009-10-31 Thread sara fink
I don't know these models, but I have a suggestion. Go to the shop with a
bootable disk on key of your favorite linux, boot, save the lspci  and then
check at home for drivers.

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Gabor Szabo  wrote:

> I usually don't think much of the big electronic networks when it comes
> to buying a computer but yesterday why flipping through the week-end
> papers I pleasantly surprised that Shekem Electric is selling
> Acer desktops with Linux installed.
>
> http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1326
> http://www.shekem-electric.co.il/?CategoryID=281&ArticleID=1325
>
>
> Does anyone here have experience with them?
>
>
> Gabor
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Re: Hebrew support on Android

2009-10-31 Thread Shay Ohayon
http://iandroid.co.il/archives/497

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:06 PM, cyril scetbon  wrote:
> It seems that I must have a version with root access which I haven't. What's
> the way to get it ? Is there an english documentation about it
>
> 2009/10/30 Shay Ohayon 
>>
>> http://iandroid.co.il/archives/485
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Cyril Scetbon 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi guys,
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how to install hebrew fonts on android. I had a Nokia
>> > N95
>> > with hebrew support and I can no longer see my contact with hebrew's
>> > name !
>> >
>> > For example, I can install Haaretz News Widget but it does not include
>> > hebrew support, so it's totally useless :(
>> >
>> > thanks
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Re: Hebrew support on Android

2009-10-31 Thread cyril scetbon
It seems that I must have a version with root access which I haven't. What's
the way to get it ? Is there an english documentation about it

2009/10/30 Shay Ohayon 

> http://iandroid.co.il/archives/485
>
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Cyril Scetbon 
> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Does anyone know how to install hebrew fonts on android. I had a Nokia
> N95
> > with hebrew support and I can no longer see my contact with hebrew's name
> !
> >
> > For example, I can install Haaretz News Widget but it does not include
> > hebrew support, so it's totally useless :(
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > --
> > Cyril SCETBON
> >
> >
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Re: Hebrew support on Android

2009-10-31 Thread cyril scetbon
Could you paste it here in English ? Will it work with a Samsung Galaxy as
it said it works with htc dream and G1 ?

thanks

2009/10/31 Shay Ohayon 

> http://iandroid.co.il/archives/497
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:06 PM, cyril scetbon  wrote:
> > It seems that I must have a version with root access which I haven't.
> What's
> > the way to get it ? Is there an english documentation about it
> >
> > 2009/10/30 Shay Ohayon 
> >>
> >> http://iandroid.co.il/archives/485
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Cyril Scetbon 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Hi guys,
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone know how to install hebrew fonts on android. I had a Nokia
> >> > N95
> >> > with hebrew support and I can no longer see my contact with hebrew's
> >> > name !
> >> >
> >> > For example, I can install Haaretz News Widget but it does not include
> >> > hebrew support, so it's totally useless :(
> >> >
> >> > thanks
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Cyril SCETBON
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: Hebrew support on Android

2009-10-31 Thread Shachar Shemesh

cyril scetbon wrote:
Could you paste it here in English ? Will it work with a Samsung 
Galaxy as it said it works with htc dream and G1 ?


I have had a Galaxy from Cellcom for a little while (for comparative 
analysis - http://blog.shemesh.biz/?p=726), and did not manage to root 
it (though I did not try too hard). In any case, the methods for rooting 
the G1 (and G2) are different than the ones used for rooting the Galaxy, 
so look at the appropriate forums.


And let me know if you succeed

Then again, if you are trying to add Hebrew, then it is likely that you 
are not using a Cellcom Galaxy, in which case the standard Galaxy 
rooting techniques may still work.


Shachar

P.s.
Didn't like the Galaxy much. I thought its human interface (physical 
buttons) were poorly thought out, and the unlocking was nothing short of 
abysmal. It did have an excellent screen, with more vibrant colors than 
the G2's (HTC Magic).


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Re: Shekem Electric selling desktops with Linux

2009-10-31 Thread Dotan Cohen
> I don't know these models, but I have a suggestion. Go to the shop with a
> bootable disk on key of your favorite linux, boot, save the lspci  and then
> check at home for drivers.
>

Better suggestion: ask in the shop about Linux. If the don't hear
people asking about Linux, of course they will never stock it.

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Re: how to disable PolicyKit?

2009-10-31 Thread Oron Peled
On Saturday, 31 בOctober 2009 16:40:47 Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> On Friday 30 October 2009 01:40:07 Oron Peled wrote:
> > > I rather hate NetworkManager, too ;-). However, from
> > > the system point of view, I'd naively expect hal, udev, dbus, network,
> > > etc. to work without a "policy kit" developed by GUI people (I
> > > understand it comes from Gnome).

Please try to cut the lines better next time. It looks like I said
the above paragraph, while in reality it was Oleg...

> > However, you are correct that it's easy to see its GNOME origins. There
> > is no command line client. This is not because the design is bad
> > or architectural limitations --- nobody bothered writing one yet.

> You can try wicd, I tested it under Debian and it was "pretty good". I don't 
> know how it will break Fedroa by killing NetworkManager and installing wicd

What does it have to do with the subject?

We discussed PolicyKit, integration with NetworkManager, lack of good
command line integration and how bad is running big program stacks
(GUI) as suid programs:
  1. wicd is a GUI program (it uses GTK).
  2. Like many similar older programs, there's no NetworkManager integration.
  3. Therefore they all need to run as root (via suid/sudo/kdesu/etc)

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