Re: Recommendations for desktop search tool under Linux

2009-04-04 Thread Nitzan Brumer
1.I am using google desktop search : http://n2b.org/archives/699
2. Good: I use it to search my mail also, works fast and easy.
Bad: relay on he browser, I don't know about privacy - can google use my
desktop data?
3. Very happy, I like it.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Omer Zak  wrote:

> Some time ago, I installed Beagle as my desktop search and information
> retrieval tool.
> Then I disabled it as I was not so happy with its computer use hogging
> combined with weakness in finding & retrieving information.
>
> Now, after upgrading my PC from Debian Etch to Debian Lenny, I would
> like to repeat the process of searching for a desktop search tool.
>
> The article which I used at the time, and which is available at:
>
> http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/desktop_search_tools_gnu_linux_tracker_recoll_strigi_deskbar
> is from almost two years ago.
>
> So I would like to ask the community for recommendations for today's
> state of the art desktop search tools.  The Debian repositories have
> bewildering array of packages, which might be suitable.
>
> So I am asking:
> 1. Which desktop search tool are you using under Linux?
> 2. What are its good and bad points?
> 3. How happy are you with it?
>
>   Thanks,
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Re: Seeking tag-based mail client.

2009-04-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 09:19:33PM +0300, Ira Abramov wrote:
> Dear lazyweb,
> 
> I am hooked on the Gmail way of managing mail conversations by tags
> rather than by directories, it's really hard to leave that (and other
> features) behind, now that I'm trying to get rid of my gAddiction.
> 
> I understand people have immitated several sides of this in Thunderbird
> but it's far from being useful, or stable. Plus I'd rather have a
> web-based program as well, so I can access it on my server from
> anywhere.
> 
> I haven't used roundcube, Squirel and IMP3 is a little crude (imp4 I haven't
> tried) and I am not really sure what else is out there that is worth my
> time to test.
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good tool/combo or two to try?

http://sup.rubyforge.org/

(Haven't tried it, though)

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Re: Recommendations for desktop search tool under Linux

2009-04-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 03:54:58PM +0300, Nitzan Brumer wrote:
> 1.I am using google desktop search : http://n2b.org/archives/699
> 2. Good: I use it to search my mail also, works fast and easy.
> Bad: relay on he browser, 

IIRC most other desktop search tools have more useful interfaces

> I don't know about privacy - can google use my desktop data?

What about permissions? Can other users on the system know the content
of your documents (or even that they exist)?

How much control do you have over when indexing is run?

What file types are supported?

Any such tool that is smart enough to allow searching the text of a
Hebrew PDF (which is visual Hebrew)

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Re: Recommendations for desktop search tool under Linux

2009-04-04 Thread Yuval Hager
בSaturday 04 April 2009, נכתב על ידי Omer Zak:
> So I am asking:
> 1. Which desktop search tool are you using under Linux?

Beagle. I dumped it once for the same reasons you described, but recently I 
went for the hunt again, and found that beagle has the most index plugins, 
and it indexes almost everything I have.

> 2. What are its good and bad points?

It's not as a hog as it was, it integrates nicely with KDE (kerry). I'm not 
too impress with its search capabilities, but it does a fairly good job. On 
occasion I am getting angry with it and closing it until I need it again. 

> 3. How happy are you with it?

Pretty happy.

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Re: Recommendations for desktop search tool under Linux

2009-04-04 Thread Boaz Rymland
Beagle once created huge log files in its directory under my home dir, 
which clogged my filesystem. It took a while to find the culprit but 
afterwards it was pretty fast to purge it from my system :-) . That 
incident, couple with very little use I had for it, convinced me to drop 
it altogether.



Nobody mentioned the long proven, useful and (very) lean on resources - 
Linux command line tools like locate, grep, find, vi and probably a few 
good other "dinosaurs" which I left out of the list. They do what I want 
today to the point that I don't feel an urge to find such a tool as you 
describe. Yes, the downside is considerable as well - they are hard to 
use to the point that probably the new Linux user (=my mother, if she 
would have ever considered using Linux...) will never use them. I just 
mention these tools for the sake of the record :-)



Boaz.


but yes - not trivial command line for the casual user (=my mother, if 
she had used Linux in the first place :-)



Yuval Hager wrote:


בSaturday 04 April 2009, נכתב על ידי Omer Zak:
  

So I am asking:
1. Which desktop search tool are you using under Linux?



Beagle. I dumped it once for the same reasons you described, but recently I 
went for the hunt again, and found that beagle has the most index plugins, 
and it indexes almost everything I have.


  

2. What are its good and bad points?



It's not as a hog as it was, it integrates nicely with KDE (kerry). I'm not 
too impress with its search capabilities, but it does a fairly good job. On 
occasion I am getting angry with it and closing it until I need it again. 

  

3. How happy are you with it?



Pretty happy.

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Last Day Reminder - Re: [Telux] Reminder: "Introduction to Perl 6 - Part II" this Sunday - 05-April-2009

2009-04-04 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all!

This is a last day reminder that we meet tomorrow, Sunday, 5-April-2009 at 
18:30 in Tel Aviv University for "Intro to Perl 6 - Part 2". More information 
can be found in the quoted message.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

On Thursday 02 April 2009 18:41:44 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> (This is a reminder for the upcoming meeting.)
>
> The Tel Aviv Open Source Club will host the second part of a series of
> talks by Gabor Szabo ( http://www.szabgab.com/ ) about "Introduction to
> Perl 6" - on 05-April-2009 (next Sunday).
>
> The meeting will take place at Tel Aviv University, at the Schreiber
> Maths&CS building, room 008 on 18:30. So mark your calendars. For more
> information can be found at:
>
> * http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/telux/
>
> * http://wiki.osdc.org.il/index.php/Tel_Aviv_Meeting_on_05_April_2009
>
> Attendance is free and everyone are welcome.
>
> With any other problems, feel free to contact me:
>
> http://www.shlomifish.org/me/contact-me/
>
> Abstract:
> -
>
> Introduction to Perl 6.
>
> A series of presentations on learning and using Perl 6 from the ground up
> to the special features.
>
> Many would think that Perl 6 is just a new version of Perl and that it
> might only be interesting for Perl programmers. However, Perl 6 is in fact
> a compiled language running on a virtual machine that embraces many new
> concepts not found in most programming languages.
>
> The presentations will be equally interesting for Perl, Java and C#
> programmers.
>
> During the series of talks we will start by learning the basics of the
> language and will get to various high level concepts. For now we plan 2
> sessions but if we need more time we'll schedule more meetings.
>
> Note
>
> After the talk we go to the café at the main entrance where we can continue
> the discussion. If people bring portable computers, we can get the off the
> ground on the spot. VirtualBox images will be provided with everything that
> is needed for playing with Perl 6 set up inside. So you may opt to bring a
> computer with VirtualBox installed.
>
> --
>
> We are always looking for presentations on interesting topics. If you have
> an interesting idea for a talk, feel free to contact us and we'll
> co-ordinate a date.
>
> Regards,
>
>   Shlomi Fish

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Re: Galgalatz from Linux/Firefox?

2009-04-04 Thread Shlomo Solomon
On Friday 31 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> mplayer http://stream.msn.co.il/glz-stream -ao alsa

This used to work for me, but now I get the following (and I don't know if 
this is Linux specific or specific to my box, or maybe not even a Linux 
problem). Any help would be apprreciated.


[solo...@shlomo1 ~]$ mplayer http://stream.msn.co.il/glz-stream -ao alsa
MPlayer 1.0-1.rc2.10.5plf2008.1-4.2.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (Family: 15, Model: 75, 
Stepping: 2)
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection.
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing http://stream.msn.co.il/glz-stream.
Resolving stream.msn.co.il for AF_INET6...
Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: stream.msn.co.il
Resolving stream.msn.co.il for AF_INET...
Connecting to server stream.msn.co.il[213.199.162.87]: 80...
Resolving il.msn.com for AF_INET6...
Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: il.msn.com
Resolving il.msn.com for AF_INET...
Connecting to server il.msn.com[213.199.164.111]: 80...
Cache size set to 320 KBytes
Cache fill: 17.40% (57014 bytes)
Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: 
avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll


Exiting... (End of file)
[solo...@shlomo1 ~]$ 



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Re: Recommendations for desktop search tool under Linux

2009-04-04 Thread Omer Zak
On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 21:43 +0300, Boaz Rymland wrote:
> Beagle once created huge log files in its directory under my home dir,
> which clogged my filesystem. It took a while to find the culprit but
> afterwards it was pretty fast to purge it from my system :-) . That
> incident, couple with very little use I had for it, convinced me to
> drop it altogether.

The huge files (index and log files) were not a problem for me.  I set
aside a separate multi-GB partition for Beagle's use, directing it to
use it by an appropriately planted symbolic link.

> Nobody mentioned the long proven, useful and (very) lean on resources
> - Linux command line tools like locate, grep, find, vi and probably a
> few good other "dinosaurs" which I left out of the list. They do what
> I want today to the point that I don't feel an urge to find such a
> tool as you describe. Yes, the downside is considerable as well - they
> are hard to use to the point that probably the new Linux user (=my
> mother, if she would have ever considered using Linux...) will never
> use them. I just mention these tools for the sake of the record :-)

I use those "traditional" command line tools, too.

The problem is that they are very slow when I want to search significant
parts of my PC's filesystem.  Therefore I need a search tool which I
would expect to index the information for easier subsequent retrieval.
See above for my not minding the space taken up by those index files.

  --- Omer


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Who translates the Ubuntu websites to Hebrew?

2009-04-04 Thread Dotan Cohen
I see that the Ubuntu 8.04 website (which will stay active until 2011
because 8.04 is a Long Term release) still calls the distro "Dapper
Drake":
ברוכים הבאים לאובונטו 8.04 LTS, "דאפר דרייק"!

Who is responsible for the translation, so that I could notify them? Thanks.

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Re: Galgalatz from Linux/Firefox?

2009-04-04 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Yup, The moved the site, so you should do:

mplayer -ao alsa mms://213.8.138.13/glz-stream

Worked perfectly here, Fedora 10 and Win XP with mplayer.

Hetz

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Shlomo Solomon
 wrote:
> On Friday 31 October 2008, Gilboa Davara wrote:
>> mplayer http://stream.msn.co.il/glz-stream -ao alsa
>
> This used to work for me, but now I get the following (and I don't know if
> this is Linux specific or specific to my box, or maybe not even a Linux
> problem). Any help would be apprreciated.
>
>
> [solo...@shlomo1 ~]$ mplayer http://stream.msn.co.il/glz-stream -ao alsa
> MPlayer 1.0-1.rc2.10.5plf2008.1-4.2.3 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team
> CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ (Family: 15, Model: 75,
> Stepping: 2)
> CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
> Compiled with runtime CPU detection.
> mplayer: could not connect to socket
> mplayer: No such file or directory
> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
>
> Playing http://stream.msn.co.il/glz-stream.
> Resolving stream.msn.co.il for AF_INET6...
> Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: stream.msn.co.il
> Resolving stream.msn.co.il for AF_INET...
> Connecting to server stream.msn.co.il[213.199.162.87]: 80...
> Resolving il.msn.com for AF_INET6...
> Couldn't resolve name for AF_INET6: il.msn.com
> Resolving il.msn.com for AF_INET...
> Connecting to server il.msn.com[213.199.164.111]: 80...
> Cache size set to 320 KBytes
> Cache fill: 17.40% (57014 bytes)
> Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load:
> avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
>
>
> Exiting... (End of file)
> [solo...@shlomo1 ~]$
>
>
>
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Re: Galgalatz from Linux/Firefox?

2009-04-04 Thread Shlomo Solomon
thanks

On Sunday 05 April 2009, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Yup, The moved the site, so you should do:
>
> mplayer -ao alsa mms://213.8.138.13/glz-stream


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Re: Who translates the Ubuntu websites to Hebrew?

2009-04-04 Thread Tomer Cohen
It will be better if you'll ask them directly. I told them about this issue
in the past, but it seems they don't really care.

cc: ubuntu-il

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 00:27, Dotan Cohen  wrote:

> I see that the Ubuntu 8.04 website (which will stay active until 2011
> because 8.04 is a Long Term release) still calls the distro "Dapper
> Drake":
> ברוכים הבאים לאובונטו 8.04 LTS, "דאפר דרייק"!
>
> Who is responsible for the translation, so that I could notify them?
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Recommendations for desktop search tool under Linux

2009-04-04 Thread Boaz Rymland

Omer Zak wrote:


The huge files (index and log files) were not a problem for me.  I set
aside a separate multi-GB partition for Beagle's use, directing it to
use it by an appropriately planted symbolic link.
  
Even if I had lots of diskspace I still wouldn't have liked the fact 
that beagle waste so much of it and more over, the fact that I need to 
track its disk usage. But, its a matter of taste of course.

I use those "traditional" command line tools, too.

The problem is that they are very slow when I want to search significant
parts of my PC's filesystem.  Therefore I need a search tool which I
would expect to index the information for easier subsequent retrieval.
  
Right, searching over large subtrees of your FS can be quite slow. There 
are probably even more downsides to command line tools. Well, nobody's 
perfect :-)


Boaz.

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