mailing list downtime

[Ely Levy]

Hey,
Mailing list will be down for a bit, while I move it to mailamn.
(Hopefully it will go smoothly).

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[Linux-il] testing

[Ely Levy]

Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)

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[Linux-il] testing again

[Ely Levy]

If you see this email, please email me back:)

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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Shachar Shemesh]

Ely Levy wrote:

Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)

And update your filters..

Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line.

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Re: [Linux-il] testing again

[Amichai Rotman]

da

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> If you see this email, please email me back:)
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[Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Constantine Shulyupin]

HI,

I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4).
I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.
There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations
incompatibilities among libraries.
Have somebody already tried to do that?
Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or
speed up the cross compilation.


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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Rami Addady]

Hello Eli


Can you add the flag:
X-list: linux-il


It use to be and I'm
using it in my procmailrc



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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Herouth Maoz]

Quoting Shachar Shemesh :


Ely Levy wrote:

Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)

And update your filters..

Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line.


One man's problem is another (wo)man's blessing. I prefer all my  
mailing lists to have such a short label on the subject line. It  
allows me to identify them easily in the mailbox on the web where  
mails are still unsorted by my local filters. And more importantly,  
identify them easily in the spam mailbox so I can salvage them.


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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Arie Skliarouk]

Hi,

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 14:03, Shachar Shemesh  wrote:

> Ely Levy wrote:
>
>> Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)
>>
> And update your filters..
>
> Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line.


This is not a problem - it is a feature ;-)

Seriously though - it is a very good feature I have missed for for a long
time. So far my filter filtered emails based on whether "To" or "Cc" field
contained the linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il email. The approach missed a lot of
email though.

Please, leave the [Linux-il] prefix for subjects.

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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Matan Ziv-Av]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:


HI,

I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4).
I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.
There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations
incompatibilities among libraries.
Have somebody already tried to do that?
Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or
speed up the cross compilation.


The main question is what libraries you are allowed to use.

Debian has an arm version which includes browsers such as firefox and 
midori.


Maemo platform (maemo.org) has an easy to use cross compiling 
environment and a few free software browsers available.



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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Constantine Shulyupin]

Thank you, Matan!
I'll try it too.
BTW: Modori based in WebKit

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Matan Ziv-Av  wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
>
>> HI,
>>
>> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista
>> Linux 4).
>> I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.
>> There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations
>> incompatibilities among libraries.
>> Have somebody already tried to do that?
>> Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or
>> speed up the cross compilation.
>
> The main question is what libraries you are allowed to use.
>
> Debian has an arm version which includes browsers such as firefox and
> midori.
>
> Maemo platform (maemo.org) has an easy to use cross compiling environment
> and a few free software browsers available.
>
>
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>
>
>



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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Hetz Ben Hamo]

Hi,

If I recall correctly, QT4 has webkit inside, and I think it already
compiles well on ARM (including QTopia). How about trying that?

Thanks,
Hetz

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Constantine Shulyupin
 wrote:
> HI,
>
> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 
> 4).
> I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.
> There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations
> incompatibilities among libraries.
> Have somebody already tried to do that?
> Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or
> speed up the cross compilation.
>
>
> Thank you
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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Constantine Shulyupin]

Thank you, Hetz

I already going to test qt-embedded-linux-opensource-src-4.4.3

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Hetz Ben Hamo  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I recall correctly, QT4 has webkit inside, and I think it already
> compiles well on ARM (including QTopia). How about trying that?
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Constantine Shulyupin
>  wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 
>> 4).
>> I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.
>> There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations
>> incompatibilities among libraries.
>> Have somebody already tried to do that?
>> Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or
>> speed up the cross compilation.
>>
>>
>> Thank you
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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Gilad Ben-Yossef]

Constantine Shulyupin wrote:


HI,

I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux 4).
  
Well, an interesting longer term solution will be to use the Android 
stack of course, but being that it's MV4 you're talking about this is 
not the fast path

I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.
There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations
incompatibilities among libraries.
  
Cross compiling sucks and MV4 is using old versions of well... 
everything - but you really need to supply some more details on what you 
tried and what didn't work.



Have somebody already tried to do that?
  


Use a build envrionment like buildroot, Ptxdist or Scratchbox.

Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or
speed up the cross compilation.
  
The Nokia 770 is an Arm based Linux device and as it is a web tablet it 
obviously has a browser. They use Scratchbox - so that's a good start.


Good luck,
Gilad


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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Constantine Shulyupin]

Thank you, Gilad,

I am installing maemo-scratchbox-install_4.1.2.sh and maemo-sdk-install_4.1.2.sh

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Gilad Ben-Yossef  wrote:
> Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista Linux
> 4).
>
>
> Well, an interesting longer term solution will be to use the Android stack
> of course, but being that it's MV4 you're talking about this is not the fast
> path
>
> I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.
> There are a lot of problems of versions and configurations
> incompatibilities among libraries.
>
>
> Cross compiling sucks and MV4 is using old versions of well... everything -
> but you really need to supply some more details on what you tried and what
> didn't work.
>
> Have somebody already tried to do that?
>
>
> Use a build envrionment like buildroot, Ptxdist or Scratchbox.
>
> Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM or
> speed up the cross compilation.
>
>
> The Nokia 770 is an Arm based Linux device and as it is a web tablet it
> obviously has a browser. They use Scratchbox - so that's a good start.
>
> Good luck,
> Gilad
>
>
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>
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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Amichai Rotman]

I don't see it as a problem...

I am more troubled by the default reply-to field - it shoulfd be the list's
post address, not the original poster...

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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 14:03, Shachar Shemesh  wrote:

> Ely Levy wrote:
>
>> Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)
>>
> And update your filters..
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> Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line.
>
> Shachar
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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Matan Ziv-Av]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2009, Arie Skliarouk wrote:


Problem: the list prepends [Linux-il] to the subject line.


This is not a problem - it is a feature ;-)


This was discussed (a few times) and the consensus reached was for no 
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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Constantine Shulyupin]

Thank you!

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Lionel Elie Mamane  wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:28:09PM +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
>
>> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM
>
>> Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM
>
> The whole of Debian is available on ARM; it contains precompiled
> binaries for several web browsers. However, it is not obvious that
> these binaries will work on the other distribution you want to use. If
> not, maybe at least the build-dependency information contained in the
> packages may be useful to resolve the version-dependency hell?
>
> http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/
>
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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Shlomi Fish]

On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:38:53 Rami Addady wrote:
> Hello Eli
>
>
> Can you add the flag:
> X-list: linux-il
>
>
> It use to be and I'm using it in my procmailrc
>

Now you have List-Id: which is more standard.

Regards,

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>
>  Rami
>
>
>
>  Ely Levy wrote:
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> Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)
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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Diego Iastrubni]

On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:28:09 Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
> HI,
>
> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista
> Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.

Webkit on what? Qt45? GTK?

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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Diego Iastrubni]

I see on the header something very similar:

List-Id: The linux Israeli users list 
List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive: 
List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: ,


SWEET

On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:38:53 Rami Addady wrote:
> Hello Eli
>
>
> Can you add the flag:
> X-list: linux-il
>
>
> It use to be and I'm using it in my procmailrc
>
>
>
>  Rami
>
>
>
>  Ely Levy wrote:
>
> Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)
>
>  Ely Levy
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Re: [Linux-il] testing

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On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 03:51:32PM +0200, Arie Skliarouk wrote:

> Seriously though - it is a very good feature I have missed for for a long
> time. So far my filter filtered emails based on whether "To" or "Cc" field
> contained the linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il email. The approach missed a lot of
> email though.

I originally filtered them by the sender (linux-il-bou...@...). Not you
have standard mailing list headers and you can filter by e.g. List-Id .

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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Lionel Elie Mamane]

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 02:28:09PM +0200, Constantine Shulyupin wrote:

> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM

> Have you any suggestion where to get ready web browser for ARM

The whole of Debian is available on ARM; it contains precompiled
binaries for several web browsers. However, it is not obvious that
these binaries will work on the other distribution you want to use. If
not, maybe at least the build-dependency information contained in the
packages may be useful to resolve the version-dependency hell?

http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/

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Re: [Linux-il] Web browser on ARM

[Constantine Shulyupin]

Finally, I successfully compiled and ran WebKit from
qt-embedded-linux-opensource-src-4.4.3

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Diego Iastrubni  wrote:
> On Sunday 25 January 2009 14:28:09 Constantine Shulyupin wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> I going to cross compile a web browser for ARM (TI DaVinci, MontaVista
>> Linux 4). I already unsuccessfully tried to compile WebKit.
>
> Webkit on what? Qt45? GTK?
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Re: [Linux-il] testing

[Shachar Shemesh]

Ely Levy wrote:

Moved to mailman, please report problems :-)
As soon as Ely send me the list password (right now, I'm only getting 
the spams and moderator requests), I'll try to restore things to 
backward compatible as much as possible.


Please your patience in the mean while. We twice missed each other 
yesterday.


Shachar

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