YAPC::Israel::2005 registration

2005-01-05 Thread Offer Kaye
Hi all,
This is just a small reminder that the last day for the reduced Early
Bird registration fee for YAPC::Israel::2005 is quickly approaching -
Jan. 13th, 2005 - don't say we didn't warn you! :-)


*New, New, New*

You can now pay by credit card online! Just go to:
http://www.litrom.com/YAPC

(You can of course still pay by check or cash directly to Gabor)
Remember, the early registration fee is 90NIS, but goes up to 150NIS
after Jan. 13th, so hurry up and pay now!

On behalf of the YAPC organizers,
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Re: Wireless advice

2005-01-05 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
Always use WEP (encryption) 64 bit is good enough. It is NOT to
keep your data secure, don't ever assume that it will be,
but to keep people from using your network to send spam or
"share" kidde porn.
Actually, I was seriously considering not using it. The idea is that, 
since WEP is so weak, I might as well do without altogether. Any host 
wishing to do anything at all on my network, including browsing the 
internet, will need to have openvpn installed and configured. Once 
that's the case, there is no extra benefit from using WEP.

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Re: Wireless advice

2005-01-05 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 11:17:12AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> 
> >Always use WEP (encryption) 64 bit is good enough. It is NOT to
> >keep your data secure, don't ever assume that it will be,
> >but to keep people from using your network to send spam or
> >"share" kidde porn.
> >
> Actually, I was seriously considering not using it. The idea is that, 
> since WEP is so weak, I might as well do without altogether. Any host 
> wishing to do anything at all on my network, including browsing the 
> internet, will need to have openvpn installed and configured. Once 
> that's the case, there is no extra benefit from using WEP.


Yes, but the difference is a legal one. If you do not encrypt your
network, you are inviting anyone to use it. If you do, you can claim
you were "hacked".

Geoff.

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Re: Wireless advice

2005-01-05 Thread Eran Tromer
On 05/01/05 11:17, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Actually, I was seriously considering not using it. The idea is that, 
since WEP is so weak, I might as well do without altogether. Any host 
wishing to do anything at all on my network, including browsing the 
internet, will need to have openvpn installed and configured. Once 
that's the case, there is no extra benefit from using WEP.
The zeroth line of defense is not getting attacked. WEP is indeed 
ludicrously weak, and does not form a significant *technical* hurdle for 
an attacker. However, since you can't be sure that your VPN setup is 
flawless, why attract unnecessary attention? The casual 
guy-with-a-laptop just looking for some open network in the neighborhood 
will try the non-WEP networks first. If yours is one but fails to 
"work", he might "fix" it with an OpenVPN exploit or by taking advantage 
of your configuration typo. If you did use WEP, your unencrypted 
neighbor would be a more attractive target; and even if your OpenVPN 
setup is in fact perfect, you'd have saved yourself a bunch of security 
log events to mull about.

That said, some people assume in good faith that a non-WEP network is 
intentionally shared with the public (which is often true; how can you 
tell?). It's a shame to unnecessarily waste their time.

  Eran
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Re: Wireless advice

2005-01-05 Thread Eran Tromer
On 05/01/05 12:01, Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
> Yes, but the difference is a legal one. If you do not encrypt your
> network, you are inviting anyone to use it. If you do, you can claim
> you were "hacked".
An encrypted network would indeed make it easier to establish "unlawful 
entry to computer material" (in the sense of the Israeli computer law). 
But whether an unencrypted wireless network constitutes an "invitation", 
looks rather unclear, legally; are there any precedents?

Of course, the above is moot in Shachar's case since he was going to use 
OpenVPN encryption and access controls regardless of WEP.

  Eran
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vim q - indenting a c block at once

2005-01-05 Thread Erez Doron
hi
the only way i'm fimiliar of indenting in vim is when i t indents line 
by line when i type it.
i'm looking for a way to select a block in a c file and indent it all at 
once

anyone ?
thanks,
erez.
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Re: vim q - indenting a c block at once

2005-01-05 Thread Pablo 'merKur' Kohan

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On Wed, 2005-01-05 at 13:45 +0200, Erez Doron wrote:

> hi
> 
> 
> the only way i'm fimiliar of indenting in vim is when i t indents line 
> by line when i type it.
> i'm looking for a way to select a block in a c file and indent it all at 
> once
> 
> anyone ?

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hi


the only way i'm fimiliar of indenting in vim is when i t 
indents line 
by line when i type it.
i'm looking for a way to select a block in a c file and 
indent it all at 
once

anyone ?


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Re: vim q - indenting a c block at once

2005-01-05 Thread Efraim Yawitz
Look up the = command which can be used just like any other normal mode
command, i.e., =3j indents the current line and the next 3, etc.

Ephraim

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Erez Doron wrote:

> hi
> 
> 
> the only way i'm fimiliar of indenting in vim is when i t indents line 
> by line when i type it.
> i'm looking for a way to select a block in a c file and indent it all at 
> once
> 
> anyone ?
> 
> thanks,
> erez.
> 
> 
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Re: vim q - indenting a c block at once

2005-01-05 Thread Erez Doron
thanks all who replied
= works just grate
cheers,
erez.
Efraim Yawitz wrote:
Look up the = command which can be used just like any other normal mode
command, i.e., =3j indents the current line and the next 3, etc.
Ephraim
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Erez Doron wrote:
 

hi
the only way i'm fimiliar of indenting in vim is when i t indents line 
by line when i type it.
i'm looking for a way to select a block in a c file and indent it all at 
once

anyone ?
thanks,
erez.
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Re: vim q - indenting a c block at once

2005-01-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Wednesday 05 January 2005 13:45, Erez Doron wrote:
> hi
>
>
> the only way i'm fimiliar of indenting in vim is when i t indents line
> by line when i type it.
> i'm looking for a way to select a block in a c file and indent it all at
> once
>

Well, as well as what Pablo Kohan said, you can also use ">", "<", ">>" and 
"<<" to increment or decrement the indentation of selections.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

> anyone ?
>
> thanks,
> erez.
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Re: vim q - indenting a c block at once

2005-01-05 Thread Herouth Maoz
Quoting Erez Doron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> hi
>
>
> the only way i'm fimiliar of indenting in vim is when i t indents line
> by line when i type it.
> i'm looking for a way to select a block in a c file and indent it all at
> once
>
> anyone ?

If you just mean indenting it one position to the right, you should mark it
(with the mouse) then hit ">". If you want to indent one position to the left,
use "<".

If you wish it to perform a full pretty-printing, that is, to indent each line
in the block as it should be indented - if there are loops in the block indent
them more etc. - then use "=" instead.

Herouth

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debian-marillat

2005-01-05 Thread Kfir Lavi
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deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main

closing my connection.
any ideas?

kfir
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mozilla and kde

2005-01-05 Thread Kfir Lavi
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Hi,
can mozilla look and feel look like kde, instade of gnome.
I want it to look like konqueror.
tnx
kfir
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Re: mozilla and kde

2005-01-05 Thread Oded Arbel
Kfir Lavi wrote:
Hi,
can mozilla look and feel look like kde, instade of gnome.
I want it to look like konqueror.
 

There are several themes for mozilla (and firefox), some of them look 
like KDE or even  Windows!

I personally use the Noia theme and then set my KDE to also use Noia and 
it looks relativly alike.
For better effect I suggest you bug mozilla developers to integerate 
mozilla-qt back into trunk :-)

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Re: mozilla and kde

2005-01-05 Thread Diego Iastrubni
Hi Kfir, 

3 options:

1) there is a theme for GTK which uses KDE functions to draw the widgets. It's 
calle gtk-qt-engine on some machines. 

2) insall themes. http://www.kde-look.org is your friend.

3) Wait. There is a port of mozilla to Qt, when it's finished you will get the 
look and feel of a Qt application. If you must see, use Mozilla's CVS.

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> I want it to look like konqueror.
> tnx
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large hebrew fonts needed

2005-01-05 Thread mavram
Hi,
I am using a lot of graphics, and therefore, I set my X term
at the hiibhest resolution afforded by my hardware.
As a result, unless I use a large font, the text in xterm is
very small. In English, am pretty happy with fn 12x24
(-sony-fixed-medium-r-normal--24-170-100-100-c-120-iso8859-1)
despite the near-identity between the letter l and the numeral
1. But I did not find anything of comparable size in Hebrew.
I have the fixed and the Culmus fonts.
Now, before I download and try every other font, I would like 
to know, from others' experience if there is anything to try.
For the moment I am using the 10x20hu
(-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-iso8859-8).
in a "normal" (not Unicode) xterm.
While I am at it: With most Culmus fonts (the only exception
I can think of is Miriam mono), the spacing between the letters
is unusually large. Anyone knows why ?
Thanks, Avraham

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Re: mozilla and kde

2005-01-05 Thread Kfir Lavi
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On Wednesday 05 January 2005 19:36, Kfir Lavi wrote:
> Hi,
> can mozilla look and feel look like kde, instade of gnome.
> I want it to look like konqueror.
> tnx
> kfir

i have download plastic theme from mozilla 
https://addons.update.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&version=1.0&os=Windows&id=213

looks better 
tnx
kfir
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Happy new year 2038 !

2005-01-05 Thread Moish
Quoting the ever-optimistic www.2038bug.com:
#include 
#include 
#include 
int main (int argc, char **argv)
{
time_t t;
t = (time_t) 10;
printf ("%d, %s", (int) t, asctime (gmtime (&t)));
t = (time_t) (0x7FFF);
printf ("%d, %s", (int) t, asctime (gmtime (&t)));
t++;
printf ("%d, %s", (int) t, asctime (gmtime (&t)));
return 0;
}
Moish
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Re: debian-marillat

2005-01-05 Thread Shaul Karl
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 04:43:18PM +0200, Kfir Lavi wrote:
> 
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
> 
> closing my connection.
> any ideas?
> 


  Not sure what you mean. Can you give more details?

Script started on Wed Jan  5 22:23:27 2005
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tents-i386.gz
--22:23:34--  
ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/unstable/Contents-i386.gz
   => `Contents-i386.gz'
Resolving ftp.nerim.net... 62.4.16.80
Connecting to ftp.nerim.net[62.4.16.80]:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /debian-marillat/dists/unstable ... done.
==> PASV ... done.==> RETR Contents-i386.gz ... done.
Length: 13,930 (unauthoritative)


 0% [ ] 0 --.--K/s 
50% [===> ] 7,000 33.87K/s 
100%[>] 13,93039.24K/s 

22:23:40 (39.02 KB/s) - `Contents-i386.gz' saved [13930]

$ exit
exit

Script done on Wed Jan  5 22:23:43 2005

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Re: Wireless advice

2005-01-05 Thread Dan Aloni
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 04:22:38PM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> > 2. What recommended PCMCIA cards are there that work with Linux?
> 
> That really depends. I did a small research when I was working at
> Softier on these issues, and I can recommend 3 solutions:
> 
> A. If you want full open source (no binary only firmwares, binary only
> modules) then you'll probably won't find something better then 11MBPS
> based cards support (like Cisco's PCMCIA wi-fi cards).
> B. Prism G series bases PCMCIA cards have good Linux support with
> binary objects (think like NVidia's binary module which can be linked
> to any linux kernel) and it can go up to 55MBPS on 802.11G.
> C. If you don't mind a full binary only solution for Linux with tons
> of wi-fi PCMCIA cards (and some PCI cards) then you should try
> LinuxAnt's DriverLoader which works very nice. Note - you'll need the
> Windows drivers for those cards since it's using some NDISWAN tricks
> to make the driver load as a kernel module + some of their stuff - see
> http://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/?PHPSESSID=a95e3de0243b4cf48b970b3e1abba838
> for the program as well as what it supports..

Regarding Windows drivers on Linux, I'd also like to recommend 
another great piece of work named ndiswrapper [1].

I ended up using ndiswrapper because the 3Com PCMCIA card 802.11g 
card that I ordered turned out to be a "WinModem"-like piece of 
hardware.

And how did I let that happen? Well, it's not that I didn't check 
the compatibility list on the web [2], it just happens to be that 
the same product model ID could have two completely different 
versions. Just something you need to be very aware about when 
ordering wireless equipment, I fell on this twice.

 * [1] http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
 * [2] http://www.linux-wlan.org/
 
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Re: Happy new year 2038 !

2005-01-05 Thread Dan Aloni
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:32:16PM +0200, Moish wrote:
> Quoting the ever-optimistic www.2038bug.com:
> 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> 
> int main (int argc, char **argv)
> {
> time_t t;
> t = (time_t) 10;
> printf ("%d, %s", (int) t, asctime (gmtime (&t)));
> t = (time_t) (0x7FFF);
> printf ("%d, %s", (int) t, asctime (gmtime (&t)));
> t++;
> printf ("%d, %s", (int) t, asctime (gmtime (&t)));
> return 0;
> }

Oh, the "2^31 seconds are enough time for everybody", 
brought to you by one or more careless UNIX designers 
who might be lucky enough to be alive and 100+ years 
old when this bug actually manifests.

In GNU/Linux, time_t is typedef'ed from __time_t, that
is typedef'ed from __TIME_T, that in turn typedef'ed
from __SLONGWORD_TYPE, that is defined from 'long int'.

Even today 64 bit architectures define 'long int' as
64 bit on some cases. Hopefully most 32-bit architectures
will perish until 2038. Nowadays, AMD64 slowly becomes 
commodoty hardware, so I'm optimistic.

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Re: Happy new year 2038 !

2005-01-05 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Dan Aloni, from the post of Thu, 06 Jan:
> will perish until 2038. Nowadays, AMD64 slowly becomes 
> commodoty hardware, so I'm optimistic.

try "has become". and 128 bit GPUs are already pretty much standard as
well.

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