Re: GDM lockup
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 07:49:55AM +0200, Eli Segal wrote: > since I installed my new woody > I get a strange lockup once in awhile and it always happens when I'm in the > GDM login screen > Are you sure it's a gdm lockup? Sounds to me like an X server lockup. When it locked up, did anything still worked? Mouse? Caps-Lock? Virtual consoles (Ctrl-Alt-Fn)? You can also activate Sys-Rq (might require compiling your own kernel, some distros do not, or at least 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq'), and then Alt-SysRq-, where is b for reboot, s for sync, and others (read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysrq.txt). If you have another machine and a network, you can also try connecting through the net. Didi > yesterday I had to reboot from the button twice !! > > has anyone heard of that ?? what can i do ?? > > > Eli > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shell on XEmacs
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 07:51:49AM +0200, Eli Segal wrote: > In the shell of EMacs it doesn't translate the color and stuff and all i see > (let say from ls) is a lot of garbish ..like ]]2~ > how can I fix it ??? Either use eshell mode, which does color handling correctly, or stick this in your .bashrc: case "$TERM" in emacs) alias ls="/bin/ls" ;; *) alias ls="ls --color -F" ;; esac Another option is to teach shell mode about colors, but that could be painful. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problem with Pth or make or what?
Oron Peled wrote: On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 00:52:22 +0200 (IST) Matan Ziv-Av <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Oron Peled wrote: Another related issue. I hope nobody don't use '.' in your path as root -- this is suicidal in terms of security. Only on systems which (might) have malicious users. Not relevant for home computers. What I pointed was bad *habbit* used by a person (computers don't have habbits yet ;-) Even if we assume there is no security issue with home system (and some replies refuted this), the same user may later administer a multiuser Linux server. He would almost certainly carry his habbits with him, as he is used to running 'foo' from current dir and have it working "automatically" without the need for the "cumbersome" ./foo As I pointed out this habbit have two negative effects: - For any user it has the potential to create confusion with builtins, aliases, functions, normal system commands. This was the case I was answering about. - I used the opportunity to warn about the dangers to root because I see in many places administrators which are unaware about it. Happily, Daniel replied that he doesn't put '.' in path on his root account, so at least he is immune to the second issue (but not the first) You'll be amazed how many times people name a script/program without being aware it is used by someone. Anybody who relies on his memory is optimistic: ls `echo $PATH | sed 's/:/ /g'` | wc -l 4164 Any hope to remember ~4k commands on this PATH so you don't use any duplicates? And I didn't count shell builtins... And don't you say "but '.' is first on my PATH". How many time we source scripts (e.g: in /etc/profile.d/) which rightfully contains fragments like: PATH="/opt/foo/bin:$PATH" Good habbits are very important in complex environment like Linux/Unix many of them encapsulate "best practices" learned over the years the hard way (i.e: clashing with the results of doing it differently). Phewwwuuu, what a thread. I didn't think it would be hot topic. Well,I did suggest two days ago, after having solved the original problem, that we pthread_join(...) ! Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Linux lasts longer! -- "Kim J. Brand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Intel compiler vs. gcc
Somebody tried Intel C++ Compiler 7.0 for Linux ? http://www.programmersparadise.com/Product.pasp?txtCatalog=Paradise&txtCategory=&txtProductID=I23+0A12 They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2.. Michael = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 12:48:34PM +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > Somebody tried Intel C++ Compiler 7.0 for Linux ? > http://www.programmersparadise.com/Product.pasp?txtCatalog=Paradise&txtCategory=&txtProductID=I23+0A12 Good article about it here: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4885 > They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2.. I've read (don't remember the source, sorry, maybe lkml) that snapshot gcc from CVS is closing the gap quickly. -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http://www.mulix.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
ביום שני 24 פברואר 2003, 12:51, Muli Ben-Yehuda כתב: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 12:48:34PM +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote: > > Somebody tried Intel C++ Compiler 7.0 for Linux ? > > http://www.programmersparadise.com/Product.pasp?txtCatalog=Paradise&txtCate >gory=&txtProductID=I23+0A12 > > Good article about it here: > > http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4885 > > > They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2.. > > I've read (don't remember the source, sorry, maybe lkml) that snapshot > gcc from CVS is closing the gap quickly. so it is good? how about compiling big programs? qt/kde? kernel? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
> > They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2..
>
> I've read (don't remember the source, sorry, maybe lkml) that
> snapshot gcc from CVS is closing the gap quickly.
My only gripe is that the compile speed itself is SSLLOOWWW... compiling X11
CVS + KDE CVS at the same time is a great way to see how to bring your CPU to
it's knees..
I wish someone could hack the auto* tools to work with {borland, Intel}
compilers...
Thanks,
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Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:19:55PM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
> My only gripe is that the compile speed itself is
> SSLLOOWWW... compiling X11 CVS + KDE CVS at the same time is a
> great way to see how to bring your CPU to it's knees..
I prefer fast generated code to faster compile times. How often do you
compile? how often do you run what you compile?
Look at at ccache and distcc to help somewhat in the "slow compile"
department.
> I wish someone could hack the auto* tools to work with {borland, Intel}
> compilers...
Don't they work now? ./configure --with-cc=icc or export CC=icc should
do it.
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Re: Nice emails templates for mozilla
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Re: shell on XEmacs
On 2003-02-24, Eli Segal wrote: > In the shell of EMacs it doesn't translate the color and stuff and all i see > (let say from ls) is a lot of garbish ..like ]]2~ > > how can I fix it ??? > Try using M-x term isntead of M-x shell - that's a true terminal emulator, with color and everything, I've just run emacs -nw inside it (not that it's useful); lynx works nicely... All keys except C-c are passed to the subprocess, C-c is a prefix for controlling emacs itself (e.g. C-c C-x k to kill the buffer, C-c C-h m will tell you more). -- Beni Cherniavsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The mind of a good coder knows what his computer would do for any of his programs. The computer of a good hacker knows what his mind would do if it weren't for his programs. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Intel compiler vs. gcc
What's the point of running two such compilations in parallel?
They just compete on cpu and resources.
Have you tried to do the same (compile X11 and KDE CVS's at
the same time) with the GNU gcc and got better results?
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> > > They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2..
> >
> > I've read (don't remember the source, sorry, maybe lkml) that
> > snapshot gcc from CVS is closing the gap quickly.
>
> My only gripe is that the compile speed itself is
> SSLLOOWWW... compiling X11
> CVS + KDE CVS at the same time is a great way to see how to
> bring your CPU to
> it's knees..
>
> I wish someone could hack the auto* tools to work with
> {borland, Intel}
> compilers...
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz
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Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
no it doesn't
there is sense in compiling few things together.
as a matter of fact, it takes a lot less time to compile the kernel by
make -j 30 than by make
( at least on my computer)
the reson, is that on the time the cpu wait for the disk to write one
file or read another, it can compile another file
remember that a lot of files use the same header files and compiler
files, so it stayes in memory an can be used while
the cpu is on iowait.
erez.
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What's the point of running two such compilations in parallel?
They just compete on cpu and resources.
Have you tried to do the same (compile X11 and KDE CVS's at
the same time) with the GNU gcc and got better results?
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Subject: Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2..
I've read (don't remember the source, sorry, maybe lkml) that
snapshot gcc from CVS is closing the gap quickly.
My only gripe is that the compile speed itself is
SSLLOOWWW... compiling X11
CVS + KDE CVS at the same time is a great way to see how to
bring your CPU to
it's knees..
I wish someone could hack the auto* tools to work with
{borland, Intel}
compilers...
Thanks,
Hetz
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RE: Intel compiler vs. gcc
yes, certainly, I'm aware of "make -j 3", but two
separate projects which look at different files and parts of the
disk (causing lots of head skips, cache threshing etc)?
It just sounds wierd to me that someone will run two such
large compilations in parallel and then say that the compiler is
slow. Slow compared to what? gcc in the same situation?
Just trying to watch and learn...
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> no it doesn't
>
> there is sense in compiling few things together.
> as a matter of fact, it takes a lot less time to compile the
> kernel by
> make -j 30 than by make
> ( at least on my computer)
>
> the reson, is that on the time the cpu wait for the disk to write one
> file or read another, it can compile another file
> remember that a lot of files use the same header files and compiler
> files, so it stayes in memory an can be used while
> the cpu is on iowait.
>
> erez.
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >What's the point of running two such compilations in parallel?
> >They just compete on cpu and resources.
> >Have you tried to do the same (compile X11 and KDE CVS's at
> >the same time) with the GNU gcc and got better results?
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Hetz Ben-Hamo
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> >>
> They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2..
>
>
> >>>I've read (don't remember the source, sorry, maybe lkml) that
> >>>snapshot gcc from CVS is closing the gap quickly.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>My only gripe is that the compile speed itself is
> >>SSLLOOWWW... compiling X11
> >>CVS + KDE CVS at the same time is a great way to see how to
> >>bring your CPU to
> >>it's knees..
> >>
> >>I wish someone could hack the auto* tools to work with
> >>{borland, Intel}
> >>compilers...
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Hetz
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Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
Aren't we missing something here: The $305.99 price tag. Oh, and let's not forget that dear old open source GCC can function as a full cross compiler which also costs. We're stuck with Intel for now, but who knows what we'll be using in a few years from now? Anyone remember DEC, DG, Interdata ... Ah me! Sic tranit gloria RMS. Daniel Michael Sternberg wrote: Somebody tried Intel C++ Compiler 7.0 for Linux ? http://www.programmersparadise.com/Product.pasp?txtCatalog=Paradise&txtCategory=&txtProductID=I23+0A12 They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2.. Michael = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Intel compiler vs. gcc
I don't see how you concluded that this point was missed. It still doesn't mean that it's not legitimate to look at the performance gains these 306$ might give people who are willing to invest them. I made a small bet with someone from management that our company will be asked by a customer to run our software on Linux before the end of 2003, the Intel compiler might be a good investment for us (we are aware of at least one customer where our performance already was the breaking point to make us win a deal over the competition). > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Feiglin > Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:15 PM > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc > > > Aren't we missing something here: The $305.99 price tag. > > Oh, and let's not forget that dear old open source GCC can > function as a > full cross compiler which also costs. We're stuck with Intel for now, > but who knows what we'll be using in a few years from now? Anyone > remember DEC, DG, Interdata ... > > Ah me! Sic tranit gloria RMS. > > Daniel > > Michael Sternberg wrote: > > Somebody tried Intel C++ Compiler 7.0 for Linux ? > > > http://www.programmersparadise.com/Product.pasp?txtCatalog=Par adise&txtCategory=&txtProductID=I23+0A12 > > They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2.. > > Michael = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
that depends that the configure script, Makefile, automake, or whatever
the package is using supports it.
I have had a lot of head heck to port open-software to HP recently, and
I know that many times you have to edit many files in the source in
order to force them respect your env.vars.
Noam
(and thats assuming that the utility is written in such a way so every
compiler will be able to compile it.
but considering the amount of warnings in the source of everything
(including kernel+qt+kde+gnome, and every thing mainstream else) you
will have a lot of luck if it'll success.
Programs are written for GCC.)
On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 13:23, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 01:19:55PM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
>
> > My only gripe is that the compile speed itself is
> > SSLLOOWWW... compiling X11 CVS + KDE CVS at the same time is a
> > great way to see how to bring your CPU to it's knees..
>
> I prefer fast generated code to faster compile times. How often do you
> compile? how often do you run what you compile?
>
> Look at at ccache and distcc to help somewhat in the "slow compile"
> department.
>
> > I wish someone could hack the auto* tools to work with {borland, Intel}
> > compilers...
>
> Don't they work now? ./configure --with-cc=icc or export CC=icc should
> do it.
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Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 16:14, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > Aren't we missing something here: The $305.99 price tag. > > Oh, and let's not forget that dear old open source GCC can function as a > full cross compiler which also costs. We're stuck with Intel for now, > but who knows what we'll be using in a few years from now? Anyone > remember DEC, DG, Interdata ... > > Ah me! Sic tranit gloria RMS. Price tag isn't the issue - not be able to ever fix bugs is - or do you believe there are no bugs in the Intel compiler (not that I have ever worked with it)? if so I have a bridge here I'd be interested to sell you... :-) Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://benyossef.com " [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep processors /var/log/dmesg Total of 64 processors activated (76359.40 BogoMIPS). " = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 06:59:33PM +0200, Noam Meltzer wrote: > (and thats assuming that the utility is written in such a way so every > compiler will be able to compile it. > but considering the amount of warnings in the source of everything > (including kernel+qt+kde+gnome, and every thing mainstream else) you > will have a lot of luck if it'll success. > Programs are written for GCC.) Assuming it compiles, the 2.5 kernel should compile with no warnings at all. We actually care about that. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OFFTOPIC] Bridges (Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc)
On 24 Feb 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: > Price tag isn't the issue - not be able to ever fix bugs is - or do you > believe there are no bugsin the Intel compiler (not that I have ever > worked with it)? if so I have a bridge here I'd be interested to sell > you... :-) Wasn't that bridge broken few years ago? (in the Maccabia) Or did you refer to the notorious Brooklyn Bridge? Is there anything, which is original Israeli, and which is offered to gullible people to test their gullibility? :-) --- Omer My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VERY OFFTOPIC] Bridges (Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc)
Omer Zak wrote: On 24 Feb 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Price tag isn't the issue - not be able to ever fix bugs is - or do you believe there are no bugsin the Intel compiler (not that I have ever worked with it)? if so I have a bridge here I'd be interested to sell you... :-) Wasn't that bridge broken few years ago? (in the Maccabia) Or did you refer to the notorious Brooklyn Bridge? Is there anything, which is original Israeli, and which is offered to gullible people to test their gullibility? :-) --- Omer A fine piece of land west of Hertzelia :-) -- Eran Mann Senior Software Engineer MRV International Tel: 972-4-9936297 Fax: 972-4-9890430 www.mrv.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Bridges (Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc)
Omer Zak wrote: On 24 Feb 2003, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Price tag isn't the issue - not be able to ever fix bugs is - or do you believe there are no bugsin the Intel compiler (not that I have ever worked with it)? if so I have a bridge here I'd be interested to sell you... :-) Wasn't that bridge broken few years ago? (in the Maccabia) Or did you refer to the notorious Brooklyn Bridge? Is there anything, which is original Israeli, and which is offered to gullible people to test their gullibility? :-) --- Omer Peace with security. -- Shachar Shemesh Open Source integration consultant Home page & resume - http://www.shemesh.biz/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software design document
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:32:26 +0200 Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > which will include text, picture (screens capture) and tables > It all should be in hebrew ofcourse, and easy transfer to html would be nice > > What is the best tool for such kind of a job ( a stable one) My first choice for technical documentation tool is: LyX -> LaTeX -> DVI -> PostScript LyX -> LaTeX -> PDF (hebrew is Ok thanks to Dekel Tzur). You can translate to HTML via LaTeX2HTML but I don't like the quality (pure HTML isn't good enough for presentation). Another possible course is: DocBook(SGML/XML) -> HTML DocBook(SGML/XML) -> DVI -> PostScript -> PDF However LyX support for SGML is quite basic (only simple features and not the complete DocBook) and I don't know *good* SGML/XML editor (anybody). Also the output of the current available convertors from SGML/XML (jade, jadetex) isn't tailored to my likings and I'm not even close to being an expert in their definition language (DSSSL -- a Lisp like beast). Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things." --Doug Gwyn = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: graphics programming
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:21:47 +0200 Ira Abramov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > for 3D rendering, the guy was looking for: > 1. fast, direct hardware access (not OpenGL's main thing) > 2. 2D > > OpenGL has nothing to do with either. it can interface with DRI, but its > main function is to standardize the manipulation of 3D graphics, in > theory, do it fast as well. You seem to confuse interface with specific implementations. OpenGL is all about 3D graphics and doing *fast* 3D graphics. Linux implementations has traditionally suffered from performance since they either used complete software implementation (Mesa) or poor hardware acceleration due to missing specs for hardware. This does not mean there are no fast OpenGL implementations for Linux. Simply that they are harder to get and they *may* cost money (depending on your graphics card). OpenGL has *nothing* to do with X11. On the contrary, since it is orthognal to X11, if you want to use it with X11 you need a special library to glue them together (e.g: the GLX library from SGI). If you have a hardware accelerated card with driver that support OpenGL API (nVidia should have [binary] drivers, but I haven't used them personaly), than you should be able to use it from the framebuffer (no X11). One such framebuffer library that can interface with OpenGL is the OpenGUI library (which is free software). I used it personaly about two years ago to display OpenGL (without X11) and it worked pretty fast although I didn't have hardware acceleration at the time (I actually used Mesa but the scene I rendered was pretty simple -- ~500 very small objects without solid background, I guess for real 3D big scene you'd need real hardware acceleration). Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
On 24 Feb 2003 17:05:48 +0200 Gilad Ben-Yossef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > " [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep processors /var/log/dmesg >Total of 64 processors activated (76359.40 BogoMIPS). " Have you put your Altix-3000 on the "linux-il used equipment list" (together with Marc's Sparcs?) I'll be happy to exchange it for my newly bought Pentium-4 :-) Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron "Your fair use of this book is restricted" "You may only read this book once" = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc
On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Daniel Feiglin wrote: > Aren't we missing something here: The $305.99 price tag. > > Oh, and let's not forget that dear old open source GCC can function as a > full cross compiler which also costs. We're stuck with Intel for now, > but who knows what we'll be using in a few years from now? Anyone > remember DEC, DG, Interdata ... > I remember DEC (Digital Equipment Corp.). Isn't DG Data General - I think they are still around, and the computer the Analyzer supposedly broke into was a Data General computer. Don't know about Interdata. > Ah me! Sic tranit gloria RMS. > Actually the Intel Compiler is fully compatible in the generated code (and in the accepted language) to gcc. So compatible it can even create a working Linux kernel. You can easily use it as a gcc replacement, or use gcc for experimental versions and icc for releasing it. Even if icc becomes defunct, you can still fall back to gcc. Regards, Shlomi Fish > Daniel > > Michael Sternberg wrote: > > Somebody tried Intel C++ Compiler 7.0 for Linux ? > > http://www.programmersparadise.com/Product.pasp?txtCatalog=Paradise&txtCategory=&txtProductID=I23+0A12 > > > > They claim 30% performance gain on gcc 3.2.. > > > > Michael > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ There's no point in keeping an idea to yourself since there's a 10 to 1 chance that somebody already has it and will share it before you. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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is there a problem with cardbus in linux? do you have any recomendation about 16/32 bit? tnx kfir lavi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Software design document
I think emacs handle SGML quite well ... Is it right ? - Original Message - From: "Oron Peled" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Eli Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Software design document > On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:32:26 +0200 > Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > which will include text, picture (screens capture) and tables > > It all should be in hebrew ofcourse, and easy transfer to html would be nice > > > > What is the best tool for such kind of a job ( a stable one) > > My first choice for technical documentation tool is: > LyX -> LaTeX -> DVI -> PostScript > LyX -> LaTeX -> PDF > (hebrew is Ok thanks to Dekel Tzur). > > You can translate to HTML via LaTeX2HTML but I don't like > the quality (pure HTML isn't good enough for presentation). > > Another possible course is: > DocBook(SGML/XML) -> HTML > DocBook(SGML/XML) -> DVI -> PostScript -> PDF > > However LyX support for SGML is quite basic (only simple features > and not the complete DocBook) and I don't know *good* SGML/XML > editor (anybody). Also the output of the current available convertors > from SGML/XML (jade, jadetex) isn't tailored to my likings and > I'm not even close to being an expert in their definition language > (DSSSL -- a Lisp like beast). > > > Oron Peled Voice/Fax: +972-4-8228492 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.actcom.co.il/~oron > > "UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because > that would also stop you from doing clever things." > --Doug Gwyn = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Bridges (Re: Intel compiler vs. gcc)
Omer Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there anything, which is original Israeli, and which is offered to > gullible people to test their gullibility? The network bridge developed by an Israeli startup perfectly positioned to take over the dark fiber? -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
