Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Sunday 16 February 2003 09:27 am, Eli Segal wrote:
> I've ordered ADSL from "yes"
> and I've asked the PCI modem so they wont bring me the usb thing
>
> will it work on my Debian ??

Not that I know of. I would suggest buying Samsung from Bezeq instead. The PCI 
card is piece of shit (IMHO)

Thanks,
Hetz

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Next Haifux Lecture

2003-02-16 Thread Orr Dunkelman

Tomorrow, Monday (17/2), 18:30, the Haifa Linux Club will gather to hear
Shachar Shemesh talk about Secure programming. The talk will take place in
the Taub (Computer Science Dept.) bldg. room 6.

Shacar is a well-known Linux supporter, one of Ha-makor people, and knows
a lot about secure programming.

More info, how to get there, etc. can be found in
http://www.haifux.org

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samsung PPPoE instructions?

2003-02-16 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi,

I'm on my way to install a PPPoE Samsung to a friend on RH 8. I didn't find 
the instructions/howto on IGLU's. Could someone give me a URL for 
instructions (and, if needed, a driver) please?

Thanks,
Hetz

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Embedding fonts in printing

2003-02-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi,

I have a problem when printing from either KWord of Mozilla, that the 
Hebrew text does not print at all. I think that telling them to embed 
the fonts in the PS would solve this problem, but I don't know how to do 
that (yes, I have searched the archives, all I found were people saying 
"you need to embed the fonts", and then people saying "Thanks! that 
worked").

I am also not 100% clear on what path the printing goes by on its way 
from the program to the printer (I used KDE's CUPS configurator to set 
everything up). As such, it is not 100% clear to me how it is that the 
intermediate postscript can at all use my TTF fonts.

   Shachar

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Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Eli Segal
ok...
I will buy the modem from bezeq (samsung)
and I need to buy a network card .. what dead chip card will fit ???

thanx


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From: "Hetz Ben Hamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Eli Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: ADSL modem


> On Sunday 16 February 2003 09:27 am, Eli Segal wrote:
> > I've ordered ADSL from "yes"
> > and I've asked the PCI modem so they wont bring me the usb thing
> >
> > will it work on my Debian ??
>
> Not that I know of. I would suggest buying Samsung from Bezeq instead. The
PCI
> card is piece of shit (IMHO)
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz


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Re: Hebrew with mutt

2003-02-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003, Eli Segal wrote about "Hebrew with mutt":
> What Are my option to be able to read and write with mutt client ??

Here is what I use in my ~/.muttrc. Yes, I know some of these options (in
particular 'charset') may be the "wrong" options to use, but it works...

# This character set is used on outgoing mail when it contains non-ascii
# characters.
set charset="iso-8859-8-i"

# use external pager, and don't prompt after it!
set noprompt_after
set pager="bidi_pager"

Where bidi_pager is the following small script:

#!/bin/sh
# I use this as mutt's pager
exec bidiv "$@" | less -c

(see http://ftp.ivrix.org.il/pub/ivrix/src/cmdline/ for bidiv - or if you
use Debian, just fetch the "bidiv" package).

This setup will send Hebrew mail as iso-8859-8-i, and will be able to read
Hebrew mail in either iso-8859-8-i (or the equivalent Windows encoding) or
UTF8. To actually *edit* Hebrew mail, you'll need to set up your editor
accordingly; I use vim, with macros to switch direction and language -
something like

export VIMINIT='map! ESC[24~ ESC:set invhk invrl^Ma
map  ESC[24~ :set invhk invrl'
(replace ESC by the actual ESCAPE character).


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Re: Hebrew with mutt

2003-02-16 Thread Eli Segal
wow .. thanx
I was using vim to write and display mail also but i didn't know how to make
it
to exec in hebrew mode

so this helps a lot


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From: "Nadav Har'El" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Eli Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Hebrew with mutt


> On Sun, Feb 16, 2003, Eli Segal wrote about "Hebrew with mutt":
> > What Are my option to be able to read and write with mutt client ??
>
> Here is what I use in my ~/.muttrc. Yes, I know some of these options (in
> particular 'charset') may be the "wrong" options to use, but it works...
>
> # This character set is used on outgoing mail when it contains non-ascii
> # characters.
> set charset="iso-8859-8-i"
>
> # use external pager, and don't prompt after it!
> set noprompt_after
> set pager="bidi_pager"
>
> Where bidi_pager is the following small script:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> # I use this as mutt's pager
> exec bidiv "$@" | less -c
>
> (see http://ftp.ivrix.org.il/pub/ivrix/src/cmdline/ for bidiv - or if you
> use Debian, just fetch the "bidiv" package).
>
> This setup will send Hebrew mail as iso-8859-8-i, and will be able to read
> Hebrew mail in either iso-8859-8-i (or the equivalent Windows encoding) or
> UTF8. To actually *edit* Hebrew mail, you'll need to set up your editor
> accordingly; I use vim, with macros to switch direction and language -
> something like
>
> export VIMINIT='map! ESC[24~ ESC:set invhk invrl^Ma
> map  ESC[24~ :set invhk invrl'
> (replace ESC by the actual ESCAPE character).
>
>
> --
> Nadav Har'El|  Sunday, Feb 16 2003, 14 Adar I
5763
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |"A mathematician is a device for
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Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:51:22AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> On Sunday 16 February 2003 09:27 am, Eli Segal wrote:
> > I've ordered ADSL from "yes"
> > and I've asked the PCI modem so they wont bring me the usb thing
> >
> > will it work on my Debian ??
> 
> Not that I know of. I would suggest buying Samsung from Bezeq instead. The PCI 
> card is piece of shit (IMHO)

If you plan connecting more than one computer, you should consider buying
a combined modem+router+switch, which can be bought for about 500 NIS.

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Re: Embedding fonts in printing

2003-02-16 Thread Dekel Tsur
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:19:35AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> I have a problem when printing from either KWord of Mozilla, that the 
> Hebrew text does not print at all. I think that telling them to embed 
> the fonts in the PS would solve this problem, but I don't know how to do 
> that (yes, I have searched the archives, all I found were people saying 
> "you need to embed the fonts", and then people saying "Thanks! that 
> worked").

Open the KDE print dialog, press "System Options", and then press "Fonts".
To test it, you can try printing to a Postscript file and then view it.
Note that this will work only in KDE apps (so it won't work in Mozilla).

> I am also not 100% clear on what path the printing goes by on its way 
> from the program to the printer (I used KDE's CUPS configurator to set 
> everything up). As such, it is not 100% clear to me how it is that the 
> intermediate postscript can at all use my TTF fonts.

The QT library contains a code that converts the TTF fonts to Postscript
fonts, and embed them in the Postscript file.


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Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Eli Segal
no ... just one computer


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From: "Dekel Tsur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Eli Segal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Linux-IL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: ADSL modem


> On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 10:51:22AM +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> > On Sunday 16 February 2003 09:27 am, Eli Segal wrote:
> > > I've ordered ADSL from "yes"
> > > and I've asked the PCI modem so they wont bring me the usb thing
> > >
> > > will it work on my Debian ??
> >
> > Not that I know of. I would suggest buying Samsung from Bezeq instead.
The PCI
> > card is piece of shit (IMHO)
>
> If you plan connecting more than one computer, you should consider buying
> a combined modem+router+switch, which can be bought for about 500 NIS.


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RE: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread linux_il
Would that router provide firewall capabilities?

I love the flexibility of having my Linux box as a firewall
(and it costs less than your quoted price (ADSL ethernet modem cost
me 240NIS, ethernet cards borrowed but would cost another 140 NIS
for two cards)).

--Amos

> -Original Message-
> From: Dekel Tsur 
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: ADSL modem
> 
> 
> If you plan connecting more than one computer, you should 
> consider buying
> a combined modem+router+switch, which can be bought for about 500 NIS.
> 

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How to print TTF fonts? (was: Embedding fonts in printing)

2003-02-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Shachar Shemesh wrote:


Hi,

I have a problem when printing from either KWord of Mozilla, that the 
Hebrew text does not print at all. I think that telling them to embed 
the fonts in the PS would solve this problem, but I don't know how to 
do that (yes, I have searched the archives, all I found were people 
saying "you need to embed the fonts", and then people saying "Thanks! 
that worked").

I am also not 100% clear on what path the printing goes by on its way 
from the program to the printer (I used KDE's CUPS configurator to set 
everything up). As such, it is not 100% clear to me how it is that the 
intermediate postscript can at all use my TTF fonts.

   Shachar

Ok, so when I select the culmus fonts (PS), it prints fine. When I try 
to print TTF fonts, they print as boxes. How do I print TTF fonts? Do I 
need to convert them to Type1?

   Shachar

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Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Eli Segal
do I need a specific firm for ethernet card ??
or shoud what they sell on most stores will do ??

for now I just want to connect to ADSL


thanx 

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Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: ADSL modem


> Would that router provide firewall capabilities?
> 
> I love the flexibility of having my Linux box as a firewall
> (and it costs less than your quoted price (ADSL ethernet modem cost
> me 240NIS, ethernet cards borrowed but would cost another 140 NIS
> for two cards)).
> 
> --Amos
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dekel Tsur 
> > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: ADSL modem
> > 
> > 
> > If you plan connecting more than one computer, you should 
> > consider buying
> > a combined modem+router+switch, which can be bought for about 500 NIS.
> > 
> 
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RE: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread linux_il
As far as I can tell Linux supports practically any card
you'll find in the market.

What I would do if I were you is:

1. see what your favourite store offers, make double-sure
they give you the right model number (make it clear to them that
if it doesn't work with your PC then you'll give it back for money)

2. check the net for "Hardware-HOWTO" (is this the most up to date
document to check?) and the sources of your current kernel for
support to this card.

It would be interesting to hear what you come up with (models and prices).
I might be in the market for a multi-port card soon if you see anything
like this.

Good luck.

> -Original Message-
> From: Eli Segal 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 12:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Linux-IL
> Subject: Re: ADSL modem
> 
> 
> do I need a specific firm for ethernet card ??
> or shoud what they sell on most stores will do ??
> 
> for now I just want to connect to ADSL
> 
> 
> thanx 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 12:02 PM
> Subject: RE: ADSL modem
> 
> 
> > Would that router provide firewall capabilities?
> > 
> > I love the flexibility of having my Linux box as a firewall
> > (and it costs less than your quoted price (ADSL ethernet modem cost
> > me 240NIS, ethernet cards borrowed but would cost another 140 NIS
> > for two cards)).
> > 
> > --Amos
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Dekel Tsur 
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 11:47 AM
> > > Subject: Re: ADSL modem
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you plan connecting more than one computer, you should 
> > > consider buying
> > > a combined modem+router+switch, which can be bought for 
> about 500 NIS.
> > > 
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Re: Embedding fonts in printing

2003-02-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Dekel Tsur wrote:


The QT library contains a code that converts the TTF fonts to Postscript
fonts, and embed them in the Postscript file.


Can you tell me what library this code resides in? I may simply not have 
have it installed.


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Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:13 am, Eli Segal wrote:
> ok...
> I will buy the modem from bezeq (samsung)
> and I need to buy a network card .. what dead chip card will fit ???

Any card. Fact is, I'll be suprised to find a low end card which doesn't work 
with Linux...

Thanks,
Hetz

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RE: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> As far as I can tell Linux supports practically any card
> you'll find in the market.
>
> What I would do if I were you is:
>
> 1. see what your favourite store offers, make double-sure
> they give you the right model number (make it clear to them that
> if it doesn't work with your PC then you'll give it back for money)

Na...

The last card I saw had on its back "works with windows NT" and also
something like "works with Novell" and even mentioned it had drivers for
SCO! .

The vendor has not bothred updating this box for some 4 years!

The diskette inside had some "linux drivers" (some .c files, and a README
on how to compile them.

Needless to say that the card is well supprted with linux , w2k, xp, etc.


In other words: PCI ethernet cards are well supported under linux. :-)

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Re: Embedding fonts in printing

2003-02-16 Thread Dan Armak
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Hi,

This probably isn't your problem, but just in case - there was a famous bug in 
the qt 3.0.x series that prevented you from printing Hebrew text, you just 
got empty spaces or squares instead. This was fixed in qt 3.1.x (and possibly 
in the later 3.0x versions too, not sure about that).

On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:19, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a problem when printing from either KWord of Mozilla, that the 
> Hebrew text does not print at all. I think that telling them to embed 
> the fonts in the PS would solve this problem, but I don't know how to do 
> that (yes, I have searched the archives, all I found were people saying 
> "you need to embed the fonts", and then people saying "Thanks! that 
> worked").
> 
> I am also not 100% clear on what path the printing goes by on its way 
> from the program to the printer (I used KDE's CUPS configurator to set 
> everything up). As such, it is not 100% clear to me how it is that the 
> intermediate postscript can at all use my TTF fonts.
> 
> Shachar
> 
> -- 
> Shachar Shemesh
> Open Source integration consultant
> http://www.consumer.org.il/sun/
> 
> 
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Bork, Bork, Bork!

2003-02-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
According to
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2439013,00.html

Opera has a new special version which "messes" with MSN.com, translating its
text into "swedish chef" language [1].

See also http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2003/02/14/index.dml

Apparently, this is a protest against Microsoft's insistance on creating
software that makes it easy to create broken unstandard pages that will
only work with Microsoft's Internet Explorer, and with making their own
pages deliberately send broken pages to users of specific browsers.


[1] Never heard of Swedish Chef speak? Check out:
http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/
http://www.almac.co.uk/chef/chef/chef.html
http://tbrowne.best.vwh.net/chef-faq.html

P.S.
By the way, it's interesting to note that the reason why Netscape decided
to make Mozilla free-software was because Netscape's main businness was
servers, and people were beginning to turn away from Netscape servers
because Microsoft, with it's huge monopoly in browsers, was beginning to
invent their own web standards
 So maybe in order to stop their browser monopoly our (free software people)
goal should be to push a free server (including all the ASP,VB, and other
crap that MS developers love to use) to replace Microsoft's?

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Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!

2003-02-16 Thread Gabor Szabo
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Nadav Har'El wrote:

>  So maybe in order to stop their browser monopoly our (free software people)
> goal should be to push a free server (including all the ASP,VB, and other
> crap that MS developers love to use) to replace Microsoft's?


In this case teach them Perl and look at Apache::ASP which is an 
implementation of the IIS/ASP framework upon Apache where the 
scripting language is Perl.

http://search.cpan.org/author/CHAMAS/Apache-ASP/


Just to troll a bit :-)
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Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!

2003-02-16 Thread Diego Iastrubni
the real isssue here is how Opera are offending the sweeden people

btw: MS were trting to push somehing similar in IE6, anyone remember...?

ביום ראשון, 16 בפברואר 2003, 17:29, Nadav Har'El כתב:
> According to
> http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-2439013,00.html
>
> Opera has a new special version which "messes" with MSN.com, translating
> its text into "swedish chef" language [1].
>
> See also http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2003/02/14/index.dml
>
> Apparently, this is a protest against Microsoft's insistance on creating
> software that makes it easy to create broken unstandard pages that will
> only work with Microsoft's Internet Explorer, and with making their own
> pages deliberately send broken pages to users of specific browsers.
>
>
> [1] Never heard of Swedish Chef speak? Check out:
>   http://www.google.com/intl/xx-bork/
>   http://www.almac.co.uk/chef/chef/chef.html
>   http://tbrowne.best.vwh.net/chef-faq.html
>
> P.S.
> By the way, it's interesting to note that the reason why Netscape decided
> to make Mozilla free-software was because Netscape's main businness was
> servers, and people were beginning to turn away from Netscape servers
> because Microsoft, with it's huge monopoly in browsers, was beginning to
> invent their own web standards
>  So maybe in order to stop their browser monopoly our (free software
> people) goal should be to push a free server (including all the ASP,VB, and
> other crap that MS developers love to use) to replace Microsoft's?


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Re: Next Haifux Lecture

2003-02-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Orr Dunkelman wrote:


Tomorrow, Monday (17/2), 18:30, the Haifa Linux Club will gather to hear
Shachar Shemesh talk about Secure programming. The talk will take place in
the Taub (Computer Science Dept.) bldg. room 6.

Shacar is a well-known Linux supporter, one of Ha-makor people, and knows
a lot about secure programming.

More info, how to get there, etc. can be found in
http://www.haifux.org

 

Just a quick update. The lecture tommorow is going to be the first of 
two parts. Tommorow's will cover a few general gotchas, as well as more 
details into buffer overruns. The lecture following it will cover format 
strings vulnerabilities, as well as developing together two different 
arbitrary code execution exploits (one buffer overrun, and one format 
string) for a five line demo SUID program.

   Shachar

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Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!

2003-02-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003, Diego Iastrubni wrote about "Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!":
> the real isssue here is how Opera are offending the sweeden people

Opera are from Norway - I guess they love to make fun of their neighbors
the Swedes :)

Anyway, the "Swedish Chef" thing isn't their own invention - it's a long-
standing hacker tradition, based on the muppets. In my previous email I
even showed a link to Google's official page in Swedish Chef "language".

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Re: samsung PPPoE instructions?

2003-02-16 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Sunday 16 February 2003 08:54, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm on my way to install a PPPoE Samsung to a friend on RH 8. I didn't find
> the instructions/howto on IGLU's. Could someone give me a URL for
> instructions (and, if needed, a driver) please?
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz

Not much is needed. You need the roaring penguin's rp-pppoe. I guess you 
should have a package of RH already installed, if not get it from the site:

http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/

You can also find instructions there. After the package is installed (along 
with pppd of course), run:

adsl-setup

And answer the questions. To connect do:
adsl-start

The modem's IP address is 10.0.0.2.

The user/password to the HTML admin interface of the modem (in case you want 
to play with it):

user : admin
pass : Bezeqwow

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Re: Linux Administration Bible recommendations

2003-02-16 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, Yehuda Drori wrote:

> On Friday 14 February 2003 18:36, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 10:31:42AM +0200, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
> > > A friend of mine asked me for a recommendation for one or two
> > > comprehensive intermediate level (i.e. not for complete novices or
> > > idiots) reference books on Linux system and network administration,
> > > and though I am usually able to find the right FM for a question at
> > > hand, I found myself unable to recommend any single reference source
> > > in a form of a dead tree or parchment.
> >
> > During one weekend of guard duty in the IDF, a long time ago, I read
> > the "Unix System Administration Handbook", by Evi Nemeth et al. My
> > outlook on sysadmining has never been the same. Nowdays, they also
> > have "Linux Administration Handbook".
>
> I sec.
> I used "Unix System Administration Handbook" 3rd edition two ( maybe 3 ) years
> ago when I was teaching as a "Metargel" at "Michlelet Sapir".
>
> it's one of the most comprehensive and complete book to start from..
>
> my best spent 373 Nis.. ;-)
>
> I would also recommend the old and basic guides:
>
> Installation and Getting Started Guide
>  Author(s): Eric S. Raymond
>

Just a correction. This book is by Matt Welsh and others:

http://www.iglu.org.il/LDP/LDP/gs/gs.html

I remember reading it and can also recommend it. Nowadays, Linux systems
tend to be more integrated and full of administration tools, but this book
is still pertinent as it covers the bare Linux essentials.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


> The Linux System Administrators' Guide
>  Version: 0.6
>  Author(s): Lars Wirzenius
>
> The Linux Network Administrators' Guide
>  Version: 1.0
>  Author(s): Olaf Kirch
>
>
>
> >
> > Check out http://www.admin.com/. USAH is highly recommended, and I
> > would assume so is LAH, by proxy.
>
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Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!

2003-02-16 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Nadav Har'El, from the post of Sun, 16 Feb:
> See also http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2003/02/14/index.dml
> 
> Apparently, this is a protest against Microsoft's insistance on creating
> software that makes it easy to create broken unstandard pages that will
> only work with Microsoft's Internet Explorer, and with making their own
> pages deliberately send broken pages to users of specific browsers.

risky busines, they could get suid, you know? :)

>  So maybe in order to stop their browser monopoly our (free software people)
> goal should be to push a free server (including all the ASP,VB, and other
> crap that MS developers love to use) to replace Microsoft's?

Chillisoft attempted that (non-free), but the real answer comes from the
industry itself, statistics shown by the Zend guy at the IBM conference
(Doron whats-his-last-name) are that LAMP is much more popular on the
web than IIS, and their business is doing great as well. the reason
Israelis don't see that is that since linux is not giving an answer for
the desktop, M$ took over colleges and universities, nobody is really
pushing an alternatice so IT and programmers and therefore the money
people know only of MS solutions, and the magic circle continues. the
fact Yeda does the worst job in the world marketing Macs (let's face it,
they are downright HOSTILE to anyone wanting to buy a mac in Israel),
there is very little competition or demand for support for alternate
client side. no client demand, programmers aren't aware, and so all the
sites end up being a product of DevStudio's wizards instead of the work
of programmers who know what they are doing, hence they are sluggish and
not standard compliant.

and yet, the enemy is not M$, it's people's lack of care and awareness.
I hope Hamakor's resources can help change that.

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Re: Embedding fonts in printing

2003-02-16 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Sunday 16 February 2003 15:17, Dan Armak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This probably isn't your problem, but just in case - there was a famous bug
> in the qt 3.0.x series that prevented you from printing Hebrew text, you
> just got empty spaces or squares instead. This was fixed in qt 3.1.x (and
> possibly in the later 3.0x versions too, not sure about that).
>

I have the same problem, fonts appear as sqaures. And I'm using qt-copy 
(3.1.1+) and koffice from cvs (using your kde-cvs ebuilds for gentoo :-).

TrueType fonts appear as sqaures when (and I have embed fonts checked in 
system options).


> On Sunday 16 February 2003 11:19, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a problem when printing from either KWord of Mozilla, that the
> > Hebrew text does not print at all. I think that telling them to embed
> > the fonts in the PS would solve this problem, but I don't know how to do
> > that (yes, I have searched the archives, all I found were people saying
> > "you need to embed the fonts", and then people saying "Thanks! that
> > worked").
> >
> > I am also not 100% clear on what path the printing goes by on its way
> > from the program to the printer (I used KDE's CUPS configurator to set
> > everything up). As such, it is not 100% clear to me how it is that the
> > intermediate postscript can at all use my TTF fonts.
> >
> > Shachar
> >
> > --
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> > Open Source integration consultant
> > http://www.consumer.org.il/sun/

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Re: samsung PPPoE instructions?

2003-02-16 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Not much is needed. You need the roaring penguin's rp-pppoe. I guess you
> should have a package of RH already installed, if not get it from the site:
>
> http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/

Installed that.

> You can also find instructions there. After the package is installed (along
> with pppd of course), run:
>
> adsl-setup
>
> And answer the questions. To connect do:
> adsl-start

OK.

> The modem's IP address is 10.0.0.2.

And the NIC IP is?

I didn't manage to get it connected. I tried with @OBezeq, with a real 
user/pass - but the authentication always failed. I tried with different NIC 
(should the NIC have any IP or just configure it to connect to a some DHCP?)

Weird...

Thanks,
Hetz

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Re: samsung PPPoE instructions?

2003-02-16 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Sunday 16 February 2003 17:16, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
>
> And the NIC IP is?
>
> I didn't manage to get it connected. I tried with @OBezeq, with a real
> user/pass - but the authentication always failed. I tried with different
> NIC (should the NIC have any IP or just configure it to connect to a some
> DHCP?)
>
> Weird...
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz

The IP really doesn't matter. IIRC, there was a discussion here if IP is 
needed for PPPoE (and the answer was no, but I could be wrong) few days ago.

I left the IP and netmask I had from the previous ADSL (pptp) installation:

10.200.1.1/255.0.0.0

Can you ping the modem ?
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Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Voguemaster
My suggestions,

You might want to call you ISP and let them know to forget about
the PCI modem. I'm not sure on the status of drivers for PCI
ADSL modems but I'm sure it's far from perfect.
The best way is to get an Ethernet modem. The Alcatel would obviously
be the 1st choice but the old versions are not sold anymore and
the new ones cost a bit much. Therefore you can get the Samsung
ethernet modem which costs 240 nis at Bezeq store.
There is more than one reason for doing this:

1. By getting an ethernet modem you remove the necessity of your OS
supporting an exotic hardware such as an ADSL modem. In place, your
OS only needs to support an Ethernet card and support for those is
GOOD, VERY GOOD! :-)

2. By not getting a modem from the ISP, you don't need to commit to
any time period. This is quite important nowadays.

3. The Samsung is much better than either the USB or the PCI crap
modems. It will not give you a hard time, probably.. :)


Eli

PS.
I forgot a few reasons... sorry.


On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:27:47 +0200, Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I've ordered ADSL from "yes" and I've asked the PCI modem so they wont 
bring me the usb thing

will it work on my Debian ??

pls answer quick

thanx
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Fwd: Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Voguemaster


--- Forwarded message ---
From: Voguemaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Linux-IL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ADSL modem
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:39:09 +0200


My suggestions,

You might want to call you ISP and let them know to forget about
the PCI modem. I'm not sure on the status of drivers for PCI
ADSL modems but I'm sure it's far from perfect.
The best way is to get an Ethernet modem. The Alcatel would obviously
be the 1st choice but the old versions are not sold anymore and
the new ones cost a bit much. Therefore you can get the Samsung
ethernet modem which costs 240 nis at Bezeq store.
There is more than one reason for doing this:

1. By getting an ethernet modem you remove the necessity of your OS
supporting an exotic hardware such as an ADSL modem. In place, your
OS only needs to support an Ethernet card and support for those is
GOOD, VERY GOOD! :-)

2. By not getting a modem from the ISP, you don't need to commit to
any time period. This is quite important nowadays.

3. The Samsung is much better than either the USB or the PCI crap
modems. It will not give you a hard time, probably.. :)


Eli

PS.
I forgot a few reasons... sorry.


On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 09:27:47 +0200, Eli Segal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

I've ordered ADSL from "yes" and I've asked the PCI modem so they wont 
bring me the usb thing

will it work on my Debian ??

pls answer quick

thanx
Eli


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Re: samsung PPPoE instructions?

2003-02-16 Thread Voguemaster
Hmmm,

I don't have a URL but I know the Broadband forum in Tapuz
have a site with instructions for using PPPoE, for both
Linux AND Winblows.

In any case, a driver is only needed for the Ethernet card,
just reminding you :)

Eli

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 10:54:43 +0200, Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

Hi,

I'm on my way to install a PPPoE Samsung to a friend on RH 8. I didn't 
find the instructions/howto on IGLU's. Could someone give me a URL for 
instructions (and, if needed, a driver) please?

Thanks,
Hetz

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Re: samsung PPPoE instructions?

2003-02-16 Thread Diego Iastrubni
if you set dhcp, you wil get an address from 10.0.0.4 to 10.0.0.7, you can 
also staticly set it to 10.0.0.1 (which I dont think it is recommended)
áéåí øàùåï, 16 áôáøåàø 2003, 19:16, Hetz Ben Hamo ëúá:
> > Not much is needed. You need the roaring penguin's rp-pppoe. I guess you
> > should have a package of RH already installed, if not get it from the
> > site:
> >
> > http://www.roaringpenguin.com/pppoe/
>
> Installed that.
>
> > You can also find instructions there. After the package is installed
> > (along with pppd of course), run:
> >
> > adsl-setup
> >
> > And answer the questions. To connect do:
> > adsl-start
>
> OK.
>
> > The modem's IP address is 10.0.0.2.
>
> And the NIC IP is?
>
> I didn't manage to get it connected. I tried with @OBezeq, with a real
> user/pass - but the authentication always failed. I tried with different
> NIC (should the NIC have any IP or just configure it to connect to a some
> DHCP?)
>
> Weird...
>
> Thanks,
> Hetz
>
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Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Voguemaster
Well,

I'm not sure about newer kernels but from my experience,
the linux kernel doesn't have built-in support for
some Intel chipsets. It actually surprises me.
I had to compile a kernel module for an onboard chip
(forgot which) on my RH 6.2 (yes, it still works :) ).

Eli

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 14:46:54 +0200 (IST), Tzafrir Cohen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


As far as I can tell Linux supports practically any card
you'll find in the market.

What I would do if I were you is:

1. see what your favourite store offers, make double-sure
they give you the right model number (make it clear to them that
if it doesn't work with your PC then you'll give it back for money)


Na...

The last card I saw had on its back "works with windows NT" and also
something like "works with Novell" and even mentioned it had drivers for
SCO! .

The vendor has not bothred updating this box for some 4 years!

The diskette inside had some "linux drivers" (some .c files, and a README
on how to compile them.

Needless to say that the card is well supprted with linux , w2k, xp, etc.


In other words: PCI ethernet cards are well supported under linux. :-)





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RFI: An HTTP Mirroring CGI Script

2003-02-16 Thread Shlomi Fish

I'd like a CGI script that will mirror another site. I.e: by entering:

http://www.myhost.com/google/

I will see the contents of

http://www.google.com/

And http://www.myhost.com/google/search?q=hello will display:

http://www.google.com/search?q=hello

The best I could find was:

http://www.alltooflat.com/geeky/elgoog/

But I don't know if its source is available and it has the unhappy
side-effect of reversing the letters on the page.

Of course that if the remote server returns HTML, then the HTML should be
processed to maintain link integrity if absolute links, etc. were used,
and naturally CGI params, cookies etc. should be seemlessly translated.

My preferable language for it would be Perl, but PHP, Python, C/C++
solutions would be good as well, as long as its open-source.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish


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Re: samsung PPPoE instructions?

2003-02-16 Thread Shoshannah Forbes

On Sunday, Feb 16, 2003, at 19:41 Asia/Jerusalem, Voguemaster wrote:


Hmmm,

I don't have a URL but I know the Broadband forum in Tapuz
have a site with instructions for using PPPoE, for both
Linux AND Winblows.


the forum:
http://www.tapuz.co.il/tapuzforum/main/forumpage.asp?id=20

the site:
http://users.tapuz.co.il/broadband/index.asp
(konki has some problems with it- use mozilla)


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Re: Bork, Bork, Bork!

2003-02-16 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Ira Abramov wrote:


risky busines, they could get suid, you know? :)


And we all know that any SUID program is an opening for an exploite. I 
guess now I'm confusing this email with the previous one I sent, though.

I hope Hamakor's resources can help change that.
 

Speaking of which.

We are desperately looking for a tallanteder web designer (that is - 
more tallented than Gilad and myself) to do an overhaul (not too much to 
over, I'm afraid) and give some templates so that the "hamakor" site 
will look better.

Any volunteers? Please?

   Shachar

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Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-16 Thread Eliran Gonen
Hello group !

After upgrading Debian's 2.2 kernel to 2.4 (with too much headaches,)
I found out that I can not configure my sound card correctly.

I run 'sndconfig' and it identifies my sound card correctly !
(I know it is correct because both RH and MDK found it to be the same)
but... When it is about to send some sort of "test sound" to my speakers
it tells me that an error has occured but the details are missing.

Quickly, I 'tail -f /var/log/message''ed and saw this:

Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: es1371: version v0.30 time 11:54:22 Apr 14 2002
Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0d.0
Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0
Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274 device id 0x5880 
revision 0x02
Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: es1371: found es1371 rev 2 at io 0xb800 irq 11
Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: es1371: features: joystick 0x0
Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7609 
(SigmaTel STAC9721/23)
Feb 16 22:16:51 rulix kernel: es1371: unloading

I see some very strange messages here:

1) It says "Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0" ?! Sharing ? with who ?
2) "ess1371: features: joystick 0x0": how can my sound card driver 
   have a joystick capablity ?!

Is the BIOS have anything to do with this ?

Any idea what is going on ?

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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-16 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
> Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: es1371: version v0.30 time 11:54:22 Apr 14
> 2002 Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0d.0 Feb
> 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: PCI: Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0
> Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: es1371: found chip, vendor id 0x1274 device
> id 0x5880 revision 0x02 Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: es1371: found es1371
> rev 2 at io 0xb800 irq 11 Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: es1371: features:
> joystick 0x0
> Feb 16 22:16:46 rulix kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id:
> 0x8384:0x7609 (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) Feb 16 22:16:51 rulix kernel: es1371:
> unloading

Lets go one by one: 

My guess is that you have the cheap Creative sound card: Ensonique 1371. 
Doing: /sbin/modprobe es1371 should load the sound driver.

> I see some very strange messages here:
>
> 1) It says "Sharing IRQ 11 with 01:00.0" ?! Sharing ? with who ?

Look at the output of your: /sbin/lspci - first device on the list is 01:00.0 
- thats where your IRQ is shared.

> 2) "ess1371: features: joystick 0x0": how can my sound card driver
>have a joystick capablity ?!

Have you ever looked at your sound card? it's also got a joystick port. if you 
load the joystick.o (I think thats the module name) then it will probably 
grab the 0x200 address. (not sure - last time I played with this card was 
when I worked at Aduva - 2 years ago).

> Is the BIOS have anything to do with this ?

You can set the IRQ in the bios. Yes.

> Any idea what is going on ?

Read above ;)

Hetz

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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-16 Thread Eliran Gonen
Hetz Ben Hamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 
> My guess is that you have the cheap Creative sound card: Ensonique 1371. 
> Doing: /sbin/modprobe es1371 should load the sound driver.

It is actually: Ensoniq|5580 AudioPCI


> Look at the output of your: /sbin/lspci - first device on the list is 01:00.0 
> - thats where your IRQ is shared.

00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8605 [PM133 AGP]

> Have you ever looked at your sound card? it's also got a joystick port. if you 
> load the joystick.o (I think thats the module name) then it will probably 
> grab the 0x200 address. (not sure - last time I played with this card was 
> when I worked at Aduva - 2 years ago).

Well I'm not interested in a joystick currently.

OK. So I got some more details. What else can help to identify the problem?

Since I installed Debian and did things "the manual way" and not using the
"the installer will recognize it" approach many problems popped out in many
unexpected places. Also very strange is that noone that I found through the
google search was able to find a complete solution for using the wheel under
InteliMouse Explorer while in RH it went smooth and automatically.

But that is out of the scope of the question.

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Re: ADSL modem

2003-02-16 Thread Oron Peled
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 19:44:41 +0200
Voguemaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had to compile a kernel module for an onboard chip
> (forgot which) on my RH 6.2 (yes, it still works :) ).

I'll bet the onboard chipset was develped two years *after*
RedHat-6.2 so it is clear you had to compile a module for it.

Although I agree with most people said about ether card support
in Linux (practically everything on market works). It still
is wise to buy brand name when it's not very expensive. As an
example, in the last few years I tend to by Intel EtherExpress-10/100
since they are just a bit more expensive than no-name cards
and you get support for *nice to have* features as:
- PXE support for remote boot/install (without the
  need to burn etherboot roms, or etherboot disketes)
- eepro100-diag (Donald's Becker diagnostic tool).
- Wake on Lan support


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Re: RFI: An HTTP Mirroring CGI Script

2003-02-16 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Sun, 16 Feb:
> 
> I'd like a CGI script that will mirror another site. I.e: by entering:
> 
> http://www.myhost.com/google/
> 
> I will see the contents of
> 
> http://www.google.com/

You don't have to look any further than Apache's own mod_rewrite and
reverse proxy. this is how you get to see
http://www.iglu.org.il:8080/Control_Panel/Products/Squishdot/IGLU/
at http://www.iglu.org.il/IGLU/

I'll leave you to do the rest of the digging.

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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-16 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Eliran Gonen, from the post of Sun, 16 Feb:
> > My guess is that you have the cheap Creative sound card: Ensonique 1371. 
> > Doing: /sbin/modprobe es1371 should load the sound driver.
> 
> It is actually: Ensoniq|5580 AudioPCI

doesn't matter. try the modprobe, it should work. sndconfig has problems
with kernel 2.4 at times.

> > Look at the output of your: /sbin/lspci - first device on the list is 01:00.0 
> > - thats where your IRQ is shared.
> 
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8605 [PM133 AGP]

no, 01:0:0 should be bus 1 (AGP) not bus 0(PCI), so it's most likely the
graphics. no worry, sharing is OK in most cases.

> OK. So I got some more details. What else can help to identify the problem?

is there still a problem? if the manual modprobe helped, just do

echo es1371 > /etc/modules

(or whatever is the module name that worked for you)


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USB networking

2003-02-16 Thread Matan Ziv-Av

Hello,

I have a computer I want to connect to my home network, but it only has
usb port (no ethernet, PCI or ISA). 
Linux has two drivers for those (usbnet for usb-usb cables, and CDCEther
for usb-ethernet adaptors), but the I don't know which devices are
supported by those.
If anyone knows of such a device, that works with linux and can be
bought in israel (preferably in a web store), please tell me.


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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-16 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:04:49PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
> Quoting Eliran Gonen, from the post of Sun, 16 Feb:
[snip]
> 
> is there still a problem? if the manual modprobe helped, just do
> 
> echo es1371 > /etc/modules

Make that ">>" or you run over your other modules :-(

Didi

> 
> (or whatever is the module name that worked for you)
> 
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Re: RFI: An HTTP Mirroring CGI Script

2003-02-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Ira Abramov wrote:

> Quoting Shlomi Fish, from the post of Sun, 16 Feb:
> >
> > I'd like a CGI script that will mirror another site. I.e: by entering:
> >
> > http://www.myhost.com/google/
> >
> > I will see the contents of
> >
> > http://www.google.com/
>
> You don't have to look any further than Apache's own mod_rewrite and
> reverse proxy. this is how you get to see
> http://www.iglu.org.il:8080/Control_Panel/Products/Squishdot/IGLU/
> at http://www.iglu.org.il/IGLU/

Actually, the way we work in IGLU is far from perfect, in that sense: it
does not hide the fact that the URLs are redirected. After following a
link or two you end up in squishdot.

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Re: RFI: An HTTP Mirroring CGI Script

2003-02-16 Thread Nadav Har'El
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about "Re: RFI: An HTTP Mirroring CGI 
Script":
> > You don't have to look any further than Apache's own mod_rewrite and
> > reverse proxy. this is how you get to see
> > http://www.iglu.org.il:8080/Control_Panel/Products/Squishdot/IGLU/
> > at http://www.iglu.org.il/IGLU/
> 
> Actually, the way we work in IGLU is far from perfect, in that sense: it
> does not hide the fact that the URLs are redirected. After following a
> link or two you end up in squishdot.

Make sure you also check out the ProxyPassReverse Apache directive.

Ira is right - Apache's mod_proxy can do exactly what you seem to want
to do (I don't think mod_rewrite is at all necessary for that).

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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-16 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Yedidyah Bar-David, from the post of Sun, 16 Feb:
> On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 11:04:49PM +0200, Ira Abramov wrote:
> > Quoting Eliran Gonen, from the post of Sun, 16 Feb:
> [snip]
> > 
> > is there still a problem? if the manual modprobe helped, just do
> > 
> > echo es1371 > /etc/modules
> 
> Make that ">>" or you run over your other modules :-(

YEESH! sticky keys! I could swear I ws thinking >> and accidently
typed only one. thanks, Didi!

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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-16 Thread Hetz Ben-Hamo
> > > echo es1371 > /etc/modules
> > 
> > Make that ">>" or you run over your other modules :-(

umm, shouldn't it be:

echo alias sound es1371 >> /etc/modules ?

At least thats what I see here on Mandrake, SuSE and Redhat 7.3, 8.1..

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Re: samsung PPPoE instructions?

2003-02-16 Thread guy keren

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:

> > You can also find instructions there. After the package is installed (along
> > with pppd of course), run:
> >
> > adsl-setup
> >
> > And answer the questions. To connect do:
> > adsl-start
> 
> OK.
> 
> > The modem's IP address is 10.0.0.2.
> 
> And the NIC IP is?
> 
> I didn't manage to get it connected. I tried with @OBezeq, with a real 
> user/pass - but the authentication always failed. I tried with different NIC 
> (should the NIC have any IP or just configure it to connect to a some DHCP?)

as i wrote a few days ago - my NIC has no IP address (i disabled it from 
being initialized during boot, accoridng to the instructions on the 
roaring penguin's site) and the connection works. when i tried setting the 
connections, things started getting messy, so i re-disabled it.

note that i didn't use their 'adsl-setup' script - i followed their manual 
configuration instructions, and i disabled their software from modifying 
/etc/resolv.conf - i like it static and manually configured.

you might want to follow that path as well and see where it leads you to.

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Re: policy routing question

2003-02-16 Thread guy keren

On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:

> I have rather strange problem with routing on Linux. The host in question
> is 2.2.19. It is connected to Frame Relay and ADSL (eth0 and ppp0
> interfaces, accordingly). The intranet is on eth1, all connections outside
> are masqueraded.
> 
> What I want to do is to make requests to port 80 go to ADSL and all other
> things got to FR. 

i did something similar once, with a 2.2.X kernel, and it took several 
hours to get it done (a more complex setup, unfortionately, which involved 
2 linux machines). there is no sane way to debug this - you must be very 
persistent, and stare at the code as your only debugging method ;)

> Manual suggest following setup:
> 
> ipchains rule along the lines:
> ipchains -A input -s 10.0.0.0/8 80 -i eth1 -m 1
> 
> 10.0.0.0/8 and eth1 being the intranet addresses and interface, and then
> iproute setup:
> 
> ip ru add fwmark 1 lookup adsl
> ip ro add default via PPP-host dev ppp0

and where is the definition of your 'adsl' routing table? there is no 
'adsl routing table' by default. perhaps you forgot to add 'adsl' 
somewhere in the 'ip ro add' command? something like:

ip ro add default table adsl via PPP-host dev ppp0

??

> The problem is that the setup doesn't work, and in a very weird way. The
> packet from inside gets out through ppp0, as intended, 

ofcourse it does - after all, your default route for the default routing 
table is set to go via ppp0 - thus, _All_ your traffic will be going out 
via that interface. this, while the incoming data is defined to go 
according to routing table 'adsl', which was not defined.

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Re: Unable to get soundcard working

2003-02-16 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David
On Mon, Feb 17, 2003 at 12:18:43AM +0200, Hetz Ben-Hamo wrote:
> > > > echo es1371 > /etc/modules
> > > 
> > > Make that ">>" or you run over your other modules :-(
> 
> umm, shouldn't it be:
> 
> echo alias sound es1371 >> /etc/modules ?
> 
> At least thats what I see here on Mandrake, SuSE and Redhat 7.3, 8.1..

Don't you mean /etc/modules.conf? That's for the advanced student, with
kmod etc. There are still some ordinary guys (like me) that do not
fully trust all this automatic stuff and would rather go with plain old
/etc/modules (and also because I got used to this since my 386 days,
when modprobe took much more time than plain insmod, and I changed the
scripts to it, manually adding all the dependencies to /etc/modules, to
get an improvement of many seconds in boot time).

> 
> Thanks,
> Hetz
> 
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Re: Next Haifux Lecture

2003-02-16 Thread Shlomi Fish

Hi!

I live in Tel Aviv (Gimel to be exact) and am looking for a ride to the
lecture and back. Arriving by public transportation is simply too
inconvenient.

If anybody is planning on driving there from Tel-Aviv (I can meet you
on Haifa Road or the Ayalon) and has a spare seat, please E-mail me.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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>
> Tomorrow, Monday (17/2), 18:30, the Haifa Linux Club will gather to hear
> Shachar Shemesh talk about Secure programming. The talk will take place in
> the Taub (Computer Science Dept.) bldg. room 6.
>
> Shacar is a well-known Linux supporter, one of Ha-makor people, and knows
> a lot about secure programming.
>
> More info, how to get there, etc. can be found in
> http://www.haifux.org
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