Linking two objects into new object.

2001-03-07 Thread Maxim Kryachko
Title: Linking two objects into new object.





Hi list.


I'm trying to combine an object with another (shared) object into a new shared object.
I'm trying to use
ld -o new_shared_object.so object_name.o -l shared_object -shared
but the result is new shared object linked on runtime with the old one.
How would you solve this problem ?


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Moving /boot to diferent partition

2001-03-07 Thread Feigin Micha

Hello

I am currently currentlly running /boot from its own parition. I wish to
make some changes in the partition setuo on my machine which requires
moving it to the root partition and later back to a new seperate
partition.

I am running a dual system win2k/linux(debian)
The current partition setup (relevant ones):
hda1: fat32
hda2: boot
hda5: fat32
hda9: root

I wan't to unite hda1 and hda5 into one partition which requires moving
hda2 out of the way and later recreating it after the united partition.
I am using lilo as the boot manager, installed on hda2 at the moment, not
the MBR (I think at list, when I change the active partition to win2k it
boots correctly).

 How do I do this?
Thank you
Micha
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mail attachment filter

2001-03-07 Thread Erez Doron

hi

I am using sendmail, and like to filter incoming mail's attachments of
type exe or vbs

how do i do that ?

regards
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Re: RedHat 7 distribution cds

2001-03-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hemo

Pinchas,

If you can - wait for Redhat 7.1 - which will go out next month. You can 
install RH 7 today, but you'll have to upgrade lots of RPM's...

Hetz

On Tuesday 06 March 2001 22:16, Pinchas Rosenfeld wrote:
> Hi Linuxers:
> I want to upgrade from RH6.2 to RH7.
> Is somebody ready to mail me (by snail mail) a copy of
> RedHat 7 CDs in exchange of a copy of Mandrake 7 CDs
> that I will mail him?
> Just one RH7 set in needed.
> TIA for your cooperation.
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Re: mail attachment filter

2001-03-07 Thread R.C.S

http://www.rshell.org/noattach.c

And read how to configure sendmail's libmilter.


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> how do i do that ?
> 
> regards
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Re: RedHat 7 distribution cds

2001-03-07 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001, Hetz Ben Hemo wrote about "Re: RedHat 7 distribution cds":
> Pinchas,
> 
> If you can - wait for Redhat 7.1 - which will go out next month. You can 
> install RH 7 today, but you'll have to upgrade lots of RPM's...
> 
> Hetz

I know I already said this before, but it's probably worth repeating.

Installing Redhat 7 (or Redhat 6.2, or Madrake, or Debian, or anything older
than one month), without installing all the updates is the computer-security
equivalent of suicide. A computer we installed on @home (an American network)
with an updated Redhat 7 gets several crack attempts per day (!) to the
portmapper, printer port, etc., that were crackable in Redhat 6.2 (and if
I remember correctly, some of them were also crackable in an unupdated
Redhat 7).

So when you get a relatively old distribution (say, over one month), make
sure the same person also gives you all the current updates; downloading it
all yourself from the Internet can be a real pain (Redhat 7 security updates
now are over 100MB, although certainly some are much more important than
others), and connecting to the Internet without doing these updates is as
wise as going to a Linux convention wearing an "I Love Microsoft" T-shirt :)

Hopefully the next version of Redhat will have much fewer services running
by default. Most people who got cracked with the portmapper or lprng holes
never intended to use these services, much less export them to the entire
Internet (the first is needed for exporting NFS file systems, and the second
for letting other people print on your printer).

Use the ipchains, Luke!


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Re: an experimental patch to use Lout with hebrew

2001-03-07 Thread Shaul Karl

> Here is my experimental patch to use Lout with hebrew, if anyone wants to
> try it out.  No guarantees, but I hope it will be useful.
> 
> Ephraim Yawitz
> 
> 
> -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar --
> -- Type: APPLICATION/octet-stream
> -- File: heblout-0.151.tar.gz
> 


As you can see the main part of the message was stripped. Perhaps you should 
contact the list-owner b4 posting it again? Perhaps putting it in a personal 
dir and/or in www.ivrix.org.il and posting a short message to the list about 
it would be better?

I personally do not intend to use lout in the near future. Or should I?


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Re: RedHat 7 distribution cds

2001-03-07 Thread Nadav Har'El

My last posting reminds me of my 3 rules for paranoid operation of a connected
Linux machine:

1. USE IPCHAINS (or ipfilter, or whatever firewall you prefer) to only let
   in and out the services you really intend to run and only to the
   machines you intend to give them to (or take them from). On an home machine
   (or another machine not intended as a general-purpose login server) these
   rules can be very strict (only allow specific packets: e.g., DNS
   replies from a specific name server, ICQ packets to/from the specific
   mirabilis network, etc.).
   This rule is optional (but recommended) - but if you don't use it make sure
   you pay extra attention to the next one:

but just in case something breaks with rule 1.,

2. RUN ONLY THE SERVICES YOU REALLY WANT. Do you know what a portmapper does?
   No? Good - don't run it then. Do you expect people from Finland to send
   files to your printer? Do you even have a printer? No? Then don't run
   the printer daemon. Does anybody ever telnet _into_ your machine? No?
   Then don't run telnetd! If you need to allow telnet but only from a
   specific host, then see hosts_access(5) (you can also use a firewall rule,
   but we're in paragraph 2. - assuming the rules of paragraph 1. broke)

also,

3. UPDATE YOUR SOFTWARE. Even if the above lines of defense do work properly,
   sometimes you _do_ want to provide services: you may want to put up an
   FTP server, SSH server, or whatever. Even running Internet-connected
   _clients_ like Netscape or Licq actually is equivalent to running a
   service because these clients take instructions from the Internet and do
   something (potentially something dangerous or erroneous) with them.
   So make sure you update your software frequently so no known security
   hole remains in it. All Linux distributors have mailing lists of security
   announcements and FTP sites from which you can get the updated packages.
   General mailing list of computer-security announcements and exploits also
   exist (the best one is "bugtraq", in my opinion).
   

There are other rules, like "Never run anything that sends shell-account
passwords cleartext" (telnet is obviously a faux-pas, but so are
non-anonymous FTP and Pop3 - unless these accounts are shell-less),
but I'll leave some for another time ;)


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failure notice (fwd) + a question.

2001-03-07 Thread Shaul Karl

Please take a look at the bottom of this message for the initially intended 
contents.
Whom should I contact about this failure notice?  

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cdrecord-1.9 and HP9600si.

2001-03-07 Thread Yaron Zabary


  Anyone with any luck. I am trying to use this combination (with xcdroast
0.98 alpha8). The image seems to be right (the files are having the
correct size), but when I check the content (MD5, cmp), it seems that the
files are corrupted. This happened in x4 and x12. Any clue ?


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RE: hardware consumer report

2001-03-07 Thread Matan Ziv-Av


On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Game Wizard wrote:

> About hardware: DON'T buy Voodoo cards as 3dfx company no longer exists and
> it was sold to nVidia (maker of GeForce)

And why does it matter? all voodoo information is available, and the
driver is open source, so there is no problem. In contrast, nVidia's
driver is closed source, so you are dependent on their goodwill.


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RE: hardware consumer report

2001-03-07 Thread Ely Levy

good will they don't really have when it comes to linux..
just look at thier drivers


Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University 
Jerusalem Israel



On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Matan Ziv-Av wrote:

|  
|  On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Game Wizard wrote:
|  
|  > About hardware: DON'T buy Voodoo cards as 3dfx company no longer exists and
|  > it was sold to nVidia (maker of GeForce)
|  
|  And why does it matter? all voodoo information is available, and the
|  driver is open source, so there is no problem. In contrast, nVidia's
|  driver is closed source, so you are dependent on their goodwill.
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Re: RedHat 7 distribution cds

2001-03-07 Thread Ilya Konstantinov

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 04:53:58PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> There are other rules, like "Never run anything that sends shell-account
> passwords cleartext" (telnet is obviously a faux-pas, but so are
> non-anonymous FTP and Pop3 - unless these accounts are shell-less),
> but I'll leave some for another time ;)

Or if your shell-owning users are too stupid to avoid using POP3,
make sshd work with RSA keys only. That way, even if the regular
password is grabbed, it'll be useless to get a shell.

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Some updates for kernel 2.4 and VIA chipset based boards

2001-03-07 Thread Hetz Ben Hemo

Hi All,

I just wanted to share with your some news and answering some private emails 
I got regards those issues..

* VIA chipset support in kernel 2.4.x:
Starting with kernel 2.4.2ac13 - the chipset IDE's interface are both 
supported (ATA 66 and ATA 100), so you can compile now kernel and boot from 
ATA-100 controller. Just make sure to compile a kernel on ATA-33 first.

* DMA support for your hard disks and DVD-ROM's - finally - it's back, so 
those who wants to watch DVD movies with programs like xine can enable the 
DMA now on your hard disks with a simple command like: /sbin/hdparm -d 1 -c 1
Don't forget to save it in a place like rc.local

* TV Tuner cards:
The drivers for all those cards who are based on BT848/858/878/888 chipsets 
(most of the FlyVideo cards here in Israel comes with those chip). This new 
driver, along with XFree 4.0.2 will give you a real full-screen and not full 
window with a small picture in the middle. BTW - the Linux driver also fixes 
some garbage that the windows driver shows when you drag your TV window on 
applications like Netscape in Windows.

* Sound Blaster Live:
As some of you know, the driver for the Sound Blaster live comes without 
Bass/Treble support. To enable Bass/Treble support. In order to enable it, 
you should add a line:

#define TONE_CONTROL

in the /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/emu10k1/main.c

This should give you bass and treble.

If you're using ALSA - then you might want to upgrade to there 0.9.0 beta 1 
version.

Thats all for this time..

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Re: RedHat 7 distribution cds

2001-03-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

Nadav Har'El wrote:
> Installing Redhat 7 (or Redhat 6.2, or Madrake, or Debian, or anything older
> than one month), without installing all the updates is the computer-security
> equivalent of suicide

While I agree with this 100%, to me, a simple thing like having a working
C library and C compiler are far more important. Now that there is a
production release of the gcc-2.96 and glibc-2.2, I would stick with those
on an RH 7 system before I would try a 7.1 and hope. 

For a while there, I was running with the "other" C compiler (egcs) that
came with RH7, but programs that used glibc failed in strange ways
with the included glibc.  

BTW in our mixed version environment open-ssh did not work with the
ssh-1.26 we are running on some machines and I went back to ssh-1.26. 
SSH-KEYGEN was one of the things that failed until I upgraded glibc.

Financialy Red Hat is in the toilet, and they are producing releases
faster than they have ever done before. (worse than the 6-6.1-6.2
fiasco). Which IMHO should have been 6.0 beta 1, 6.0 beta 2 and 6.0
prod.  One of the programers who has since left for our New York office,
Sasha Belikoff, was offically part of the beta for 6.0, but I was the
one who found the bugs. He just got the glory (and the free copy). :-)

It's not all RH's fault. They are not to blame for the unreliable NFS in
the late 2.2 kernels that persisted up to the production release of 2.4 

> So when you get a relatively old distribution (say, over one month), make
> sure the same person also gives you all the current updates; downloading it
> all yourself from the Internet can be a real pain (Redhat 7 security updates
> now are over 100MB, although certainly some are much more important than
> others), and connecting to the Internet without doing these updates is as
> wise as going to a Linux convention wearing an "I Love Microsoft" T-shirt :)

That's what wget is for. Also note that there were two 7.0 releases,
7.0 and 7.0 "respin". Spin doctoring for "we really messed this one up".


> Use the ipchains, Luke!

And the host.allow and host.deny files too.

I'm on vacation until late next week, but I'd gladly provide rh7 disk 1
and 2 to anyone who needs it and can arrange to pick it up. (in Jerusalem
or Tel Aviv). I guess I need to download the security upgrades too,

Geoff.

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Re: cdrecord-1.9 and HP9600si.

2001-03-07 Thread Geoffrey S. Mendelson

Yaron Zabary wrote:
> 
> 
>   Anyone with any luck. I am trying to use this combination (with xcdroast
> 0.98 alpha8). The image seems to be right (the files are having the
> correct size), but when I check the content (MD5, cmp), it seems that the
> files are corrupted. This happened in x4 and x12. Any clue ?

I've never had any luck using xcdroast to write cds. I use cd record,
directly. It may also be the blanks too. The CD recoder at work (an old
7100i) would only write on MITSUI blanks and then with a 1 in 10 failure
rate.  We sent it back for repair and now it works fine with MITSUI
blanks (used for work) and the 25 for 75 NIS blanks bulk pack that I
use.

At home I have a SAMSUNG CD reader/recorder combination DVD reader.

In both cases I use kernel 2.4.1, compiled on a RH7 system with egcs,
using scsi emulation and cd record from the cdrecord-1.9-2 rpm.

Geoff.

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Re: RedHat 7 distribution cds

2001-03-07 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001, Ilya Konstantinov wrote about "Re: RedHat 7 distribution cds":
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 04:53:58PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> > There are other rules, like "Never run anything that sends shell-account
> > passwords cleartext" (telnet is obviously a faux-pas, but so are
> > non-anonymous FTP and Pop3 - unless these accounts are shell-less),
> > but I'll leave some for another time ;)
> 
> Or if your shell-owning users are too stupid to avoid using POP3,
> make sshd work with RSA keys only. That way, even if the regular
> password is grabbed, it'll be useless to get a shell.

This is a great idea. When you create an account for someone, rather than
giving them a random password, ask them for _their_ public key (ask them
for their ~/.ssh/identity.pub, or the ssh2 equivalent, and if they don't
have that yet they should run ssh-keygen [-d]). While I've been using
ssh with RSA keys for a long time, last week was the first time that it
dawned on me that I can actually create an account without a password, and
log into it only using an RSA key. So far so good.

The only downside to this method is that users that are used to move between
different terminals and logging in will need to start carrying their private
keys on diskettes with them, or download them (encrypted, of course) from
the net all the time. Alternatively, the user can log in from one terminal
to add the public key he uses in another terminal. This is a bit of a hassle.

P.S. obviously RSA keys have their own share of security problems. If you
allow logins using the key of a less-secure account into a more-secure
account, this essentially means that anybody breaking into your less-secure
account will automatically be able to break into your more-secure account
which is Bad. So RSA keys aren't the security silver bullet, but they can
sure come in handy.

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partition Magic to Linux

2001-03-07 Thread Eran Levy

Hi,
I have downloaded partition magic for linux to make an image backup to my 
FileSystems.  If I have 600MB and I image them, what will be the MBs of the 
image?


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Fwd: Re: hardware consumer report

2001-03-07 Thread Erez Boym

Hi,

If you have more people reply 2 u'r personal EMail,
please forward it to the list. I have just completed
an upgrade on my Comp. and that subject is close to my
hart.

Thanks

Erez
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> > Motherboard: ASUS CUV4x VIA 694X is offered.
> > 
> >The question I have (besides "It's great" /
> "Run
> > away from it"
> >spectrum of reactions) is: How do motherboards
> > work with high-speed
> >CPUs? Will it support Pentium III above 866MHz?
> 
> Those that will support CPU’s above 800Mhz are
> CUV4X-DLS - ~340$US, CUV4X-DLS ~110$US. They all
> support INTEL CPUs which is not bad but it is more
> expensive. 
> 
> I have to join the recommendation for AMD CPUs,
> You’ll
> get a faster chip for the same price and they work
> with Linux well.
> 
> Another consideration - The ASUS boards are not
> cheep,
> so I can recommend the FIC AZ11 which is a simple
> but
> very reliable and Linux run on it with no problems
> with CPU’s up to 1Ghz (I use it with a AMD 900M
> CPU).
> 
> Note that your going to get 5 PCI slots on that
> motherboard (Unless you have a specially ordered
> AISA). To install PCI cards you’ll have to play a
> little longer with your configuration until it
> works,
> and you’ll have to check that your PCI modem
> actually
> supports Linux as most of the PCI modems don’t.
> 
> 
> > U.S.Robotics 56K* Performance Pro Modem (Model
> > 3CP5610A)
> > 
> >USR say it works with Linux (confirmed
> > independently, or so it
> >seems). Any common alternatives?
> 
> Be aware that your going to have 5 PCI slots. It is
> not trivial to find a Linux PCI modem. The USR PCI
> modems do work with Linux and work well but they are
> VERY, expensive.
> 
> Take a look at :
> http://www.archtek.com/pcv.html
> 
> And there are several other PCI modems, which will
> work, but you do have to confirm that before hand.
>  
> > Sound Card: Creative ViBRA 128
> 
> If you have no special need for high-end sound, then
> consider an onboard sound card. Although you will
> most
> likely, have to install ALSA to use it, it will save
> you some $$$.
> 
> Erez
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Moving /boot to diferent partition

2001-03-07 Thread Shaul Karl

> Hello
> 
> I am currently currentlly running /boot from its own parition. I wish to
> make some changes in the partition setuo on my machine which requires
> moving it to the root partition and later back to a new seperate
> partition.
> 
> I am running a dual system win2k/linux(debian)
> The current partition setup (relevant ones):
> hda1: fat32
> hda2: boot
> hda5: fat32
> hda9: root
> 
> I wan't to unite hda1 and hda5 into one partition which requires moving
> hda2 out of the way and later recreating it after the united partition.
> I am using lilo as the boot manager, installed on hda2 at the moment, not
> the MBR (I think at list, when I change the active partition to win2k it
> boots correctly).
> 
>  How do I do this?


Basically you want to backup the relevant fs (perhaps tar.gz them), make your 
changes and put them back again.
However you have to mess here with Linux fs and with Win fs. Hoefully the MS 
fs can be tar.gz as the Linux one. If that is the case then I would continue 
with
Hard Disk Upgrade Mini-HOWTO.

Another note is to look for parted. But I do not know how stable it is.

Hope this helps.


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> Micha
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Re: Moving /boot to diferent partition

2001-03-07 Thread Daniel Feiglin

Hmmm.

>From your hda numbering, I gather that bootable Win2k sits on primary
partition 1 as C:,  /boot sits on primary hda2,  first logical hda5 is win
data D: and of course root sits on hda9.

Once you merge hda1 and hda5, you have a choice of  returning /boot to a
primary (now hda2) or using a logical, which is what I am going to do below.
To make this as painless as possible, borrow the 2 diskette version of
Partiton Magic V6 and do this:

1. Delete hda2 (There is no need to save it; but you can if you have
something special in it.)
2. Merge hda5 to hda1 (and may the Lord have mercy on your win 2k registry!)
I think that with Partition Magic V6, you can do it in one operation.
3. You may need to fiddle the resulting partition sizes to gain a one track
partition ant the begining of your extended partition. It should be a revived
hda5 for your new boot. If you don't put it there, all your fstab mount
points will be wrong, and you will need to edit them manually (I've been
there!) Make sure that you format your little boot partition as ext2.
(Partition Magic will do it for you.)
4.Use your installation diskette to boot your existing system - well I don't
know how it goes with Debian, but it's no problem with SuSE.
5. Edit fstab to mount /boot on hda5, then mount /boot
6. Again, this is installation dependent: Somewhere you should have a utility
to select a kernel and copy all the relevant stuff to /boot. (Again, with
SuSE, it's a breeze.)
7. Edit lilo.conf (or use some friendly utility) to reflect the new location
of /boot, and, yes, to install the boot record in the MBR (unless you are
using some other boot manager.) Make sure lilo.conf still has your Win2k
partiton as a boot option.
8. Run lilo
9. Prepare an emergency boot diskette, by repeating steps 7-8, to target the
diskette instead of  /boot. (Make sure that your lilo.conf is restored to
/boot!)
10. Hold your breath and take a three fingered salute ...

You biggest potential problem will not be Linux. If you had any Win stuff
installed on D: you will have registry woes. I suggest that you uninstall any
Win stuff on D: before you do this, and reinstall it later, on your enlarged
C:


Feigin Micha wrote:

> Hello
>
> I am currently currentlly running /boot from its own parition. I wish to
> make some changes in the partition setuo on my machine which requires
> moving it to the root partition and later back to a new seperate
> partition.
>
> I am running a dual system win2k/linux(debian)
> The current partition setup (relevant ones):
> hda1: fat32
> hda2: boot
> hda5: fat32
> hda9: root
>
> I wan't to unite hda1 and hda5 into one partition which requires moving
> hda2 out of the way and later recreating it after the united partition.
> I am using lilo as the boot manager, installed on hda2 at the moment, not
> the MBR (I think at list, when I change the active partition to win2k it
> boots correctly).
>
>  How do I do this?
> Thank you
> Micha
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