Re: ipchains
"Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo" wrote: > > AO>> Using copyrighted material which you do not own is illegal. > AO>> Storing mp3 SONGS that you did not buy/have the disk is > > Now you seem to assume every MP3 song is illegal copyrighted > material. MPAA would laugh in joy reading this. They have enormous success > in delegitimizing innocent file format and linking it with illegal > activities - to the border that some ISPs install cron jobs to delete all > MP3 files found on their clients' (!!!) sites. Good to know you support > them. I gave it as an example and i was talking about _illegal_ mp3s, those that are copyrighted, since MP3 is just a format and there's nothing illegal in that. I figured that it would be obvious, but appearently not for everyone. > > AO>> basically illegal, I'm sure you can find alot of sources > AO>> on the web about this. (See Metallica VS. Napster) > > Oh, yeah - good old Metallica needs another PR campaign. For free is even > better. What's the current hot topic? Oh, MP3, "pirating". Guys, lets' > start to work - PR is the ongoing effort! Nice of you sticking to an unimportant part that i brought as an example, Too bad that you did not answer to the real issue and just got into nitpicking about things where my intentions were pretty clear. I'd recommend you to stay away from threads that contain info you do not understand/have no answer for. If you can't donate useful information, you don't have to participate. -- Alon Oz, Aduva Research Team, Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A proud member in the Evil Linux cyberterrorist hackers (ELCH) organization A who can launch Denial of Service attacks against the embedded devices in your 6-slice toaster with advanced pingflood Open Source classified exploit codes hidden inside strongly encrypted Russian mafia pornography that innocent American children download from online gambling web sites located in the Northern Mariana Islands = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipchains
"Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo" wrote: > > AO>> Using copyrighted material which you do not own is illegal. > AO>> Storing mp3 SONGS that you did not buy/have the disk is > > Now you seem to assume every MP3 song is illegal copyrighted > material. MPAA would laugh in joy reading this. They have enormous success > in delegitimizing innocent file format and linking it with illegal > activities - to the border that some ISPs install cron jobs to delete all > MP3 files found on their clients' (!!!) sites. Good to know you support > them. > And something i forgot, If you owned a company and knew that if someone reported certain authorities about illegal material stored on the company's computers, you'd be sued? and you also realize that most of the .mp3 files are songs that are probably copyrighted (99% on my own home computer), what would you do when you have millions of dollars on the stake? I'll leave that for you to answer. Thou i'll add that I don't see deleting mp3s effective because if you do that, why not delete zip, rar, arj, and tar files? they might contain pirated software, or executables, they might be part of copyrighted software. But then again, this is _way_ off topic.. -- Alon Oz, Aduva Research Team, Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A proud member in the Evil Linux cyberterrorist hackers (ELCH) organization A who can launch Denial of Service attacks against the embedded devices in your 6-slice toaster with advanced pingflood Open Source classified exploit codes hidden inside strongly encrypted Russian mafia pornography that innocent American children download from online gambling web sites located in the Northern Mariana Islands = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipchains
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Alon Oz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I gave it as an example and i was talking about _illegal_ mp3s, > those that are copyrighted, since MP3 is just a format and there's > nothing illegal in that. > I figured that it would be obvious, but appearently not for everyone. Exactly, and that's why we need to be careful about the way we speak. Besides, what's illegal MP3? The file is legal, though perhaps copying it was illegal. So why not just call them "Shared in ways which are illegal because of our screwed up copyright system which now gives companies enormous powers over individuals"? > Nice of you sticking to an unimportant part that i brought as an > example, Many of us do not think that the issue of copying MP3s is unimportant -- some of us think it's a case study in how copyright law went well beyond what it was meant to do originally. -- Moshe Zadka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is a signature anti-virus. Please stop the spread of signature viruses! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ipchains
> > Nice of you sticking to an unimportant part that i brought as an > > example, > > Many of us do not think that the issue of copying MP3s is > unimportant -- > some of us think it's a case study in how copyright law went > well beyond > what it was meant to do originally. It was offtopic to the discussion of company policy and firewalls which was off-topic to the list. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipchains
Hi, Moshe! On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 06:40:21PM +0200, you wrote the following: > > I gave it as an example and i was talking about _illegal_ mp3s, > > those that are copyrighted, since MP3 is just a format and there's > > nothing illegal in that. > > I figured that it would be obvious, but appearently not for everyone. > > Exactly, and that's why we need to be careful about the way we speak. > Besides, what's illegal MP3? The file is legal, though perhaps copying > it was illegal. So why not just call them "Shared in ways which > are illegal because of our screwed up copyright system which now > gives companies enormous powers over individuals"? The same copyright system that disallows you to copy ripped MP3s disallows companies to make proprietary products out of GPLed software. Our copyright system is just fine. I get the impression that some people don't want to pay for music they listen to, so they start bashing the copyright law which makes that illegal. I'm all for Napster and I'm myself a heavy user of it. I'm using it to download music, and then buy it if I like it and throw it away if I don't. That's still illegal, but it has nothing to do with the copyright law -- it has a lot to do with the fact that RIAA hasn't yet properly embraced the Internet as an advertising medium. So leave the copyright law alone. You can bash RIAA if you have to. ;-) -- Alex Shnitman| http://www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] +--- http://alexsh.hectic.netUIN 188956PGP key on web page E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spaces in filenames
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000, guy keren wrote about "Re: spaces in filenames": > while the 'cd' override solution does not work on certain cases. i often > use the 'pushd' and 'popd' command, which also change the current > directory, and do NOT invoke the shell builtin 'cd' function, at least not > under tcsh. so you need to alias 'cd', 'pushd' and 'popd'. any other > commands that change the curernt working directory? Two solutions: 1. Go ahead and alias cd, pushd, and popd. It's not that difficult, especially if you use a common shell function between them to do the actual title- changing. Does this cover all the methods of changing the current directory in tcsh (or bash)? 2. Dump tcsh, and use zsh ;) Zsh's function "chpwd" that I described in a previous posting is "Executed whenever the current working directory is changed"", regardless of which command (cd, chdir, pushd, popd, or even AUTO_CD) was used to do it. If you want other reasons why "Csh Programming [is] Considered Harmful", check out Tom Christiansen's "Csh-Whynot" at http://www.landfield.com/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/ -- Nadav Har'El| Wednesday, Dec 27 2000, 1 Tevet 5761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |If you tell the truth, you don't have to http://nadav.harel.org.il |remember anything. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New: Jewish Singles Email Group for Ages 30 Plus
Moses Ellias wrote: > > Hello, > > I "apologize" if this e-mail is a little off-topic. but I don't know how > else to get the word out!!! > > I just want to let you know that there is a brand new Jewish Singles Mailing > List for the 30 Plus age group. Dear Netvision Comptrollers, This person, Moses Elias, is a spammer. Please have him duly punished and otherwise mollested, lest he continue to spread his worthless claptrap all over the space. And, Moses dear - I sincerely HOPE you remain single lest you pollute the internet with the genes of your progeny in addition to your own. With disrespect, Marc A. Volovic = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spaces in filenames
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000, Adi Stav wrote about "Re: spaces in filenames":
> Ah, no. We are talking about five bytes here (plus the length of the
> title). And since it will arrive through telnet (or equivalent)
> together with the rest of the prompt, in normal use it will occupy a
> very small single packet that has to be sent anyway, if only for the
> newline. So there will generally be no latency problem even with very
> slow modems.
I guess I have some sensitivites dating from the days of 300 baud modems ;)
A typical title for me would be around 30 characters, or a full second of
transmission on such a modem... :)
> I don't like the cd aliasing solution because it feels kludgy: what it
> the cwd changes not because of cd (like choo pointed out)? What if you
> want to display data other than your cwd in the title? Anyhow, if
As I pointed out, this is why zsh has the 'chpwd' function.
> efficiency is an principal thing, I suggest caching:
>
> CURRENT_TITLE=""
> retitle() {
This is a nice trick!
(I'll let the computational inefficiency slip by: after all, I can't complain
when I check for email in 20 mailboxes before every prompt!)
> > case "$TERM" in
> > xterm|screen) print -n '\033]2;'"$LOGNAME@$SYS":$PWD'\007';;
> > esac
> Did you manage to get it working with screen? Screen ate my control
> characters when I tried it...
Yes, it works under screen. Try adding the following to your .screenrc:
# special xterm hardstatus: use the window title.
termcapinfo xterm hs:ts=\E]2;:fs=\007:ds=\E]2;screen\007
It works very nicely, with titles changing when you switch windows and
the whole nine yards.
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Re: spoofing DNS..
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Sagi Bashari wrote: I can't even believe we're really discussing this lame subject here. These lamo hacker wannabe kids questions don't belong on this list. --Ariel > Tizmo, > > You cannot spoof your IP on IRC today. IRC works on TCP, not spoofable. > there used to be a way to spoof by exploiting some hole in old versions > of bind, but 99% of the DNS Servers today are patched. > > .. just leave it. > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Tizmo wrote: > > > lets say i want to connect to an irc server with a spoofed ip, can i do it ? > > or i want to surf the web not with my real ip.. > > if i and if i cant tell me how can i send pings with a spoffed ip .. and > > what is hping2 ? > > > > -Original Message - > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Tizmo'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 6:35 PM > > Subject: RE: spoofing DNS.. > > > > > > > > > > depends what you want to do with it... > >> don't forget that sending packets from a spoofed ip, will result in no > > > replies... > > > if you want to do a spoof icmp or udp attacks you can use hping2 for > > > instance... > > > question still stands, what are you trying to accomplish? > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tizmo > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 6:24 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: spoofing DNS.. > > > > > > > > > imean spoffing my ip > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Eddie Harari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "'Tizmo'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 2:24 PM > > > Subject: RE: spoofing DNS.. > > > > > > > > > > what exactly do you mean by spoofing DNS , > > > > > > > >reply to requests that came to your dns server with fault data ??? > > > >or spoof your IP ? > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Tizmo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 12:24 PM > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: spoofing DNS.. > > > > > > > > > > > > hey list, > > > > i heard about spoffing dns in linux .. like, changing your ip address to > > > > what ever you like it to be. > > > > i just wanted to know if it's true and if it is i really would like to > > > know > > > > how it's can be done. > > > > thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > = > > >> To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe| mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _ > ___ __ _ __ _(_) Sagi Bashari > (_- /__/\__,_\__, |_| >|___/ > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: spoofing DNS..
Those long hostnames you see on the IRC are actually simple vhosts (virtual hosts) that people make, specially for use on the irc, with bnc, u can choose to use a vhost for the machine you are running the bnc from. these are just addional ip's that point to the same machine. if you really think having a cool long hostname is cool and you got the money to spend, you can buy a shell from alot of shell-providers, that also offer lots of "cool" long vhosts, and then run a bouncer there. On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, David Hananel wrote: > If it was easy once, and now not, why do I see lots of people with wierd > hostnames like : i.am.the.god and stuff like that? > I saw some at Dal-Net, but most of them are at Ef-Net. > > How is that possible? They said they uses a bnc > > David > > - Original Message - > From: Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Tizmo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2000 10:58 PM > Subject: Re: spoofing DNS.. > > > > T>> lets say i want to connect to an irc server with a spoofed ip, can > > > > In most cases, you can't. Most cases of "IP spoofing on IRC" is really DNS > > spoofing. Real IP spoofing over TCP is pretty hard to do, and if you want > > to spoof more than one packet (i.e., maintain a real session), you need to > > be lucky on the edge of miracle to get some success. > > > > However, DNS spoofing (i.e., showing wrong name on IRC, which does not > > correspond to your IP) was pretty easy once (not now). But the packets > > still would be travelling by your real IP, just nobody on IRC would know > > it. > > > > T>> if i cant tell me how can i send pings with a spoffed ip .. and > > > > You can, but you won't get any answer. Why to send pings that you won't > > get answer? > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken > > Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells > > phone +972-3-9316425 /\ JRRT LotR. > > http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333 > > > > > > = > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: spaces in filenames
guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > while the 'cd' override solution does not work on certain cases. i often > use the 'pushd' and 'popd' command, which also change the current > directory, and do NOT invoke the shell builtin 'cd' function, at least not > under tcsh. so you need to alias 'cd', 'pushd' and 'popd'. any other > commands that change the curernt working directory? Yes, I do use the same trick for pushd and popd, I did not include those stanzas in my posting, but I think there was a comment that said that. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | Comgates Ltd. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] "... We work by wit, and not by witchcraft; And wit depends on dilatory time." [Shakespeare] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spaces in filenames
Adi Stav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 12:55:19AM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 26, 2000, Adi Stav wrote about "Re: spaces in filenames":
> > > Speaking of, by the way, I wonder why almost everybody I've seen who
> > > digs smart xterm titles uses the cd trick instead of something like:
> > >
> > > PS1_SIMPLE="\h: \w "
> > > PS1="\[\033]0;${PS1_SIMPLE}\007\]${PS1_SIMPLE}"
I wanted my PS1 to be just "$ ", and the pwd shown in the titlebar of
the xterm.
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Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 08:38:17AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > How can I send an SMS message to an orange subscribe by E-mail, and how > can I send an E-mail from an SMS capable cellular phone? To Orange, there's no way. Few months ago, I was running an email-to-SMS forwarding service, which exploited Pelephone's, Cellcom's and Orange-Walla's sites, but it's not active any longer, after Cellcom and Orange-Walla blocked my IP (lots of Orange users where using it to send messages to subscribers in other networks, by sending their messages through SMS-to-email gateways). As to the SMS-to-email gateways, try those: +447973577510 (http://aa.nu/faxtext) +358405174761 (http://www.oeoe.fi) +447747782320 (http://www.connectotel.com/sms/mmail.html) Syntax for all of them is "EMAIL@DOMAIN message", IIRC. International SMSes cost the same as national ones in Orange (currently 9ag.+VAT). -- Best regards, Ilya Konstantinov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000, Ilya Konstantinov wrote about "Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone": > On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 08:38:17AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > To Orange, there's no way. > Few months ago, I was running an email-to-SMS forwarding service, > which exploited Pelephone's, Cellcom's and Orange-Walla's sites, > but it's not active any longer, after Cellcom and Orange-Walla > blocked my IP (lots of Orange users where using it to send messages > to subscribers in other networks, by sending their messages through > SMS-to-email gateways). Why is this exploitation? When I bought my cellcom phone, about 18 months ago, I did it with the promise that Celcom will soon have a free SMS-sending site. And they kept their promise. Making personal use of that site (and sending an email to a gateway in the express purpose that the gateway uses the site for you counts as personal use) is fair, in my opinion. Anyway, if they block your IP, why don't you try doing this from another IP? If you can't get another IP, you can try using your ISP's proxy server (if it has one). If Orange or Cellcom block access to their sites to entire ISPs' proxy servers, they'll cut the branch they're sitting on. > As to the SMS-to-email gateways, try those: > +447973577510 (http://aa.nu/faxtext) > +358405174761 (http://www.oeoe.fi) > +447747782320 (http://www.connectotel.com/sms/mmail.html) > > Syntax for all of them is "EMAIL@DOMAIN message", IIRC. > International SMSes cost the same as national ones in Orange > (currently 9ag.+VAT). This is interesting news :) (P.S. I was under the impression that Orange doubled their SMS prices a few months ago...) Anybody knows if gosms.com still exist? They used to have a SMS-to-Email gateway, and much more. -- Nadav Har'El| Wednesday, Dec 27 2000, 2 Tevet 5761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Snowflakes are very fragile, but look http://nadav.harel.org.il |what they can do when they stick together! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 06:16:00PM +0200, Nadav Har'El wrote: > Why is this exploitation? When I bought my cellcom phone, about 18 months > ago, I did it with the promise that Celcom will soon have a free SMS-sending > site. And they kept their promise. Making personal use of that site (and > sending an email to a gateway in the express purpose that the gateway uses > the site for you counts as personal use) is fair, in my opinion. Thing is - it wasn't just for my personal use. After some rumours went around, the forwarder's popularity grew and it spread around thousands of Orange users, mostly teenagers. The last count results in about 10,000 unique users who used it to forward messages to Cellcom subscribers. The service was passing on around 3000-4000 SMSes a day. For this, about 250 acounts were automatically created on iSend :) Although this doesn't violate their terms of agreement, somebody probably didn't like it and shut it down (403 from our IP + a stupid legal suit treat e-mail). The forwarder stayed active for Orange - to - Pelephone forwarders, until OrangeWalla also cried out. Then I decided to shut it down. > Anyway, if they block your IP, why don't you try doing this from another IP? > If you can't get another IP, you can try using your ISP's proxy server (if > it has one). If Orange or Cellcom block access to their sites to entire > ISPs' proxy servers, they'll cut the branch they're sitting on. I have 4 C-classes in disposal for this server, and I can use anonymous proxies as well - but I can understand when I'm not wanted. > This is interesting news :) (P.S. I was under the impression that Orange > doubled their SMS prices a few months ago...) In my last Orange bill, I calculated the price per SMS, summing national and international SMSes and it was exactly 9ag per SMS. Cellcom did raise their prices though. > Anybody knows if gosms.com still exist? They used to have a SMS-to-Email > gateway, and much more. GoSMS is dead AFAIK, also as a result of Partner being annoying arrogant bastards. -- Best regards, Ilya Konstantinov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Looking for ADSL subscribers in Givatayim
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Omer Efraim wrote: > Dani Arbel wrote: > > > > Try to install ethereal and see what is going on the line. > > Dani > PPTP -> encapsulated packets. are there packets going in both directions (modem to comp and back ? > > > > > On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Omer Efraim wrote: > > > > > Dani Arbel wrote: > > > > > > > > Did you install according to the HOWTO-ADSL-BEZEQ ? > > > > Dani > > > Yes, the installation is irellevant, as the problem > > > is not at this end. I've also tried OpenBSD/Win2k/Win98SE. > > > This is the same problem I mailed the list about recently. > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Omer Efraim wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother the list with such nonsense, but I cannot > > > > > think of another way to do that (Bezeq said they'll help, > > > > > but no go so far). > > > > > > > > > > As to the matter at hand: I'm looking for other > > > > > ADSL subscribers in Givatayim. I have a problem with > > > > > my ADSL connection, and have already ruled out the > > > > > possibility that it's a problem at my end or the ISP's > > > > > (as I tried several, as well as using various default > > > > > configurations and different computers/NICs/OSs at my > > > > > end). That leaves Bezeq. > > > > > > > > > > Having spoken to Bezeq, I know that there is a single > > > > > RedBack router at Givatayim, and I have cause to believe > > > > > it (or it's configuration) is the source of the problem. > > > > > > > > > > In order to verify this, I need some help testing from > > > > > other subscribers in the Givatayim area. > > > > > > > > > > I would appreciate any reference to such people - if you > > > > > such a person, you are probably also touched/will be touched > > > > > by this issue. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > /-- Omer Efraim ---\ > > > > > /--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove spam_me) \ > > > > > | I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world | > > > > > | without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, | > > > > > | because they'd never expect it.| > > > > > \-- Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts / > > > > > > > > > > = > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > /-- Omer Efraim ---\ > > > /--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove spam_me) \ > > > | I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world | > > > | without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, | > > > | because they'd never expect it.| > > > \-- Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts / > > > > > > = > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > > > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > -- > /-- Omer Efraim ---\ > /--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove spam_me) \ > | I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world | > | without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, | > | because they'd never expect it.| > \-- Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts / > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: ADSL frozen downloads/resumes (ARGH!!!)
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Omer Efraim wrote: > Hi, > I recently had ADSL installed at my place, and > very quickly ran into a very annoying problem. I'm > hoping someone else might have come across it and > would have a solution - or otherwise, it would be best > to approach Bezeq with more than one case of this > phenomenon (as they keep trying to blow me off with > lame excuses). This is long, but please bear with me. > > When I download files from ftp, the download frequently > stops in the middle for no apparent reason. I'm not > talking about a time-outor a disconnect - it just stops > receiving data and freezes. If I disconnect and try > to resume the download, it just sits there doing nothing > forever. Nothing helps, even after a restart/disconnect/whatever, > the same file still freezes. If I try to delete the file > and restart the download from zero, it will start transferring, > then will freeze in exactly the same spot. Note that > during the time when the download freezes, other downloads > continue just fine without any problem at all. And the > weirdest thing is that I can _never_ resume that specific download. > It can download 20 files just fine from a certain ftp server, > then suddenly freeze in the middle of the next one, while > happily downloading away from other places in the same > time. A minute later, one of the transfers from the other ftp > serves can stop - it happened while transfering from FTPDs > of all types. Can this be related to some kind of transparent proxy that your provider is using (I know some of them do) ? It seems as if some file transfer crashes in the middle and then you keep getting it from the cache again. Try to switch provider. Access a site which you have access to its logs and see if the source is from some ISP's proxy. I would be surprised if this has anything to do with ADSL at all. > The ADSL modem is connected to my linux box which acts as a > router (masquaraded), but even trying to install the modem > on a Windows98/Win2k box did not help. This is not a client > problem either, as I have tried many many clients (ncftp/gftp/vanilla > ftp on Linux, and many more on Win32 boxes). > > I would appreciate any replies from people who have come across > the same problem.I suspect this is a defective modem problem > myself, as Bezeq claim the line is fine (although it seems to peek > at roughly 200kb/s, even though I'm about 1-1.5km from the > local telco office). Any clues would also be immensely helpful, > perhaps from network engineers. > > Phew. > > Thanks. > > -- > /-- Omer Efraim ---\ > /--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove spam_me) \ > | I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world| > | without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, | > | because they'd never expect it. | > \--Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts / > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: ADSL frozen downloads/resumes (ARGH!!!)
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Omer Efraim wrote: > I did - keep in mind that I tested this using FTP, so this > is not a transparent proxy issue (happens on all ports, so > it won't catch those). It doesn't happen when using a modem through > the same provider. I maintain (and there is some agreement from > Bezeq support personell) that this is a problem with the local > Redback - I found someone else connected to the same Redback, > he'll help me test it. Yes, I missed your letter saying that you tried with other providers. Did you try to tcpdump on both client and server and see what happens. > Thanks though (ahem, SafeTP *cough* firewall ports :) I haven't check the page you sent yet. Is that urgent ? -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE problem
Hi On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Arieh Bibliowicz wrote: > I have a mandrake 7.2 system, and every time I try to install a new KDE > app, it tells me that it can't find de header files, but I'm pretty shure > I installed everything on the dists!!! I am using KDE2, can that be the > rpoblem? Are you sure you have everything installed including all the relevant -devel packages, if you installed from RPMs)? What header file is that exactly? try looking for it in rpmfind (http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html ) or in google/linux (http://www.google.com/linux ), this will show you in which package that file resides. If that still doesn't work, you'll have to give us some useful data, such as the name of the app you try to install (from where?) and a more detailed error message. Regards -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMScellphone
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Ilya Konstantinov wrote: > On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 08:38:17AM +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > > > How can I send an SMS message to an orange subscribe by E-mail, and how > > can I send an E-mail from an SMS capable cellular phone? > > To Orange, there's no way. > Few months ago, I was running an email-to-SMS forwarding service, > which exploited Pelephone's, Cellcom's and Orange-Walla's sites, > but it's not active any longer, after Cellcom and Orange-Walla > blocked my IP (lots of Orange users where using it to send messages > to subscribers in other networks, by sending their messages through > SMS-to-email gateways). There is a way! I found a scirpt on the net to exploit mtnsms.com, which sends to any GSM phone (incl. orange). It works great. P.S. A script to exploit Orange written by Nadav Har'el and improved by me is available at my site - http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~alon/cellphone/ > As to the SMS-to-email gateways, try those: > +447973577510 (http://aa.nu/faxtext) > +358405174761 (http://www.oeoe.fi) > +447747782320 (http://www.connectotel.com/sms/mmail.html) > > Syntax for all of them is "EMAIL@DOMAIN message", IIRC. > International SMSes cost the same as national ones in Orange > (currently 9ag.+VAT). There is also eXcell http://www.excell.to/ which has this service. Alon - if you cut here, you'll probably destroy your monitor -- This message was sent by Alon Altman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ICQ:1366540 The RIGHT way to contact me is by e-mail. I am otherwise nonexistent :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spoofing DNS..
AB>> I can't even believe we're really discussing this lame subject AB>> here. These lamo hacker wannabe kids questions don't belong on AB>> this list. You can discuss attack methods for two reasons - or you want to attack someone, or you want to protect yourself. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] \/ There shall be counsels taken Stanislav Malyshev /\ Stronger than Morgul-spells phone +972-3-9316425/\ JRRT LotR. http://sharat.co.il/frodo/ whois:!SM8333 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 12:52:49AM +0200, Alon Altman wrote: > There is a way! > I found a scirpt on the net to exploit mtnsms.com, which sends to any > GSM phone (incl. orange). It works great. I wrote such a script once. Although MTNSMS doesn't openly announce a daily limit, they have one, and a rather small one. > P.S. A script to exploit Orange written by Nadav Har'el and improved by me > is available at my site - http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~alon/cellphone/ Again, 20 messages a day. Exploit OrangeWalla, much more fun (until they catch you). Or figure out how to use 'telnet 192.118.10.40 443'. > There is also eXcell http://www.excell.to/ which has this service. Usually they have delay of around 3 minutes, and require subscribtion. -- Best regards, Ilya Konstantinov = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMScellphone
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Shlomi Fish wrote: > > How can I send an SMS message to an orange subscribe by E-mail, and how > can I send an E-mail from an SMS capable cellular phone? I've been told by Orange that they are trying to have some out of band SMS sending (modem, TAP etc). If they go with TAP, you will be able to do that using qpage (www.qpage.org). Pro: goes OOB (which means that 'the network is down' message gets to you at the time and not afterwards). Con: you have to pay for the phone calls. > Regards, > > Shlomi Fish > > > > -- > Shlomi Fish[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Home Page: http://t2.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/ > Home E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The prefix "God Said" has the extraordinary logical property of > converting any statement that follows it into a true one. > > > = > To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command > echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Yaron. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000, Alon Altman wrote about "Re: Sending SMS messages by E-mail + Sending E-mail from an SMS cellphone": >.. > P.S. A script to exploit Orange written by Nadav Har'el and improved by me > is available at my site - http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~alon/cellphone/ >.. Objection! Speculative ;) My script wasn't to "exploit" Orange: like *all* cellphone providers in Israel (and probably most providers around the world), Orange provide a way to send SMS messages to their customers from the Internet. This is interface between the Internet and the Real World is very important, and as I said in a previous posting, I didn't get a Cellcom phone until I was promised that they will soon have one (and indeed they added their site about a month later). The fact that this gateway is free is nice, but not the most important thing (i.e., if it had cost 10 agorot per message, it would add 15 shekels to my monthly bill - I wouldn't go bankrupt), but because on the Internet you don't have an easy way of charging 10 agorot. Instead, they charge the users for the privilige of receiving SMS messages (cellcom no longer does, but I paid 10 shekles a month for that privilige for about a year). Anyway, using my script for personal use (sending stuff to your own phone number, sending a reasonable amount of messages to friends, etc. - all assuming that you register to their online service and agree to its terms) is surely "fair use". The "fairness" of automatically registering 500 fake users on their site and letting 10,000 people share them is a little more questionable, because you deprive them of the _accountability_ they wanted (if somebody, say, spams SMSs, they want to have a lead on who did it, and block him; Actually, they may have blocked you for this exact reason!). But as you know, my script requires you to register on your own, and to provide it with the username/password registered on Orange/Cellcom's sites. -- Nadav Har'El| Thursday, Dec 28 2000, 2 Tevet 5761 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Always keep your words soft and sweet, http://nadav.harel.org.il |just in case you have to eat them. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
