NIS server on Linux

2000-06-04 Thread Mike Almogy

Hi list.

Is linux NIS services are stable enough to be run as server ?
I have 5 servers that i want to use as NIS clients.
and i want Linux to be the server.

Maybe you recommend a different authentication/Information technique ? (LDAP
and such)

Thanks,

Mike
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[OT] My distro is better than your distro (non-PC)

2000-06-04 Thread Marc A. Volovic

guy keren wrote:

> why do we have to passionatly support one distribution, and bash the
> others? is it because we need to feel like we belong to some community?

Choo darling, of COURSE we do. My distro (Bogus Linux v0.93r1) is
MILES better than your distro, whatever it may be, especially since I say
so. My penguin, in addition, is MUCH more beautiful than yours and, to
boot, has a bigger beak! And much nicer feathers. And can eat more fish
than yours. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!

> lets use what we find appealing for us, and let the rest of us live with
> their beliefes peacefully. for eventually, it's the people that count, not

Come on, man. We're israelis [sic]. We measure penis lengths as a national
pasttime. We cannot comprehend that anyone may be happy with the
penis they have and not die of envy for ours!

Children of Linux-IL, grow up. It is not about penises. It is about
knowledge.

Hereby undersigned,

Bigest Dickus.


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strange port

2000-06-04 Thread Ben-Nes Michael

Hi All

I done nmap on my server and got few strange output:
111/tcpopensunrpc
113/tcpopenauth
935/tcpopenunknown
1024/tcp   openkdm

The auth is disabled in the inetd.conf file and the daemon was restarted
but the port still active.

what is the 111 , 935, 1024 ?
this is an ordinary RH6.2


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amanda backup

2000-06-04 Thread Alex Dubrovsky

Hi guys /gals
Any one here uses amanda backup package on a regular bases?
How stable is it?
I'm looking for recomendations on hardware configuration for a backup server 
, whcih will backup around 40 workstations and 2 servers on daily bases.
Please email me in private.
TIA

 Regards
 Alex Dubrovsky

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A:  A canary with the super-user password.


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Python-IL Reminder

2000-06-04 Thread Moshe Zadka

I'm trying to organize a Python user group. I have no idea yet what we'll
do, but if you like Python, please mail me.

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Re: Python-IL Reminder

2000-06-04 Thread Ira Abramov

On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Moshe Zadka wrote:

> I'm trying to organize a Python user group. I have no idea yet what we'll
> do, but if you like Python, please mail me.

or, more to the point, mail an empty message to
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and let the good times roll :-)

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Re: strange port

2000-06-04 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef

Ben-Nes Michael wrote:
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I done nmap on my server and got few strange output:
> 111/tcpopensunrpc
> 113/tcpopenauth
> 935/tcpopenunknown
> 1024/tcp   openkdm
> 
> The auth is disabled in the inetd.conf file and the daemon was restarted
> but the port still active.
> 
> what is the 111 , 935, 1024 ?

111 is the portmap service, needed for RPC based services
(/etc/rc.d/init.d/portmap)
1024 I'm *guessing* is the KDE ORB (Object Request Broker) port.
And on RH6.2 identd is a standalone daemon that runs from the SysV init
files (/etc/rc.d/init.d/identd) and not from indetd.

I have no idea what 935 is used for. Use netstat -nlp to find out...

Hint of the day: "grep  /etc/services" is your friend. Use
it! ;-)

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Re: amanda backup

2000-06-04 Thread Ira Abramov

On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Alex Dubrovsky wrote:

> Any one here uses amanda backup package on a regular bases?
> How stable is it?

it's very reliable, but the limitations are:

a. staging disk must be available for understandable reasons
b. creates staging files before sending to the tape, and you bump into
the 2 gig maximum file size way too often, or maybe they solved this on
other partition types (Reiser?)
c. fast saves - slow restores. the db of files is not left of the disk
behind, instead you figure out which partition your file was on, and
query the DB on which volume it was last backed up as level 0, 1 and
on. not a major problem since if the system is built right, you'll never
have to restore :-)


> I'm looking for recomendations on hardware configuration for a backup server
> , whcih will backup around 40 workstations and 2 servers on daily bases.

I sorta thought it was public intereset up to this point :-)

for the above setups Amanda seems like a great system unless you need
also a GUI drone to do restores, and there it's a bit lacking (it's a
modular commandline unix tool...)

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Re: My distro is better ( was RE: need 4 RH-6.2)

2000-06-04 Thread Yaron Zabary


  Once again a relevant quote (scene 10):

"
BRIAN:
Brothers! Brothers! We should be struggling together!
FRANCIS:
We are! Ohh.
BRIAN:
We mustn't fight each other! Surely we should be united against the
common enemy!
EVERYONE:
The Judean People's Front?!
BRIAN:
No, no! The Romans!
EVERYONE:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.
FRANCIS:
Yeah. He's right.
RANDOM:
Look out!
RANDOM:
Careful.
[clop clop clop clop clop clop clop]
DEADLY DIRK:
Right! Where were we?
FRANCIS:
Uhh, you were going to punch me.
DEADLY DIRK:
Oh, yeah.
[C.F.G. and P.F.J. fight]
"

  And yet another one (scene 17):

"
GIRL:
Follow the Gourd! The Holy Gourd of Jerusalem!
FOLLOWER:
The Gourd!
HARRY:
Hold up the sandal, as He has commanded us!
ARTHUR:
It is a shoe! It is a shoe!
HARRY:
It's a sandal!
ARTHUR:
No, it isn't!
GIRL:
Cast it away!
ARTHUR:
Put it on!
"

  Full quotes can be found at
http://bau2.uibk.ac.at/sg/python/Scripts/LifeOfBrian/brian.html


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Re: strange port

2000-06-04 Thread Marc A. Volovic

Ben-Nes Michael wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I done nmap on my server and got few strange output:
> 111/tcpopensunrpc
> 113/tcpopenauth
> 935/tcpopenunknown
> 1024/tcp   openkdm
>
> The auth is disabled in the inetd.conf file and the daemon was restarted
> but the port still active.
>
> what is the 111 , 935, 1024 ?
> this is an ordinary RH6.2

Come on, man! It bloody SAYS what it is.

111 is RPC. Read `man -k portmap`.
113 _is_ auth. I suggest, if you really disabled it and not just 'think'
(cor, what a wrong word), running lsof and seeing what holds 113.
Same for 935.
1024 _says_ it's kdm. I'd just run lsof.

M



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Re: NIS server on Linux

2000-06-04 Thread Ariel Biener

On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Mike Almogy wrote:


Depends on the load you expect. Please define your needs more
specifically.

--Ariel
> Hi list.
> 
> Is linux NIS services are stable enough to be run as server ?
> I have 5 servers that i want to use as NIS clients.
> and i want Linux to be the server.
> 
> Maybe you recommend a different authentication/Information technique ? (LDAP
> and such)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
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> +972-3-6901415
> 
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Re: strange port

2000-06-04 Thread Ariel Biener

On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Ben-Nes Michael wrote:

> Hi All
> 
> I done nmap on my server and got few strange output:
> 111/tcpopensunrpc

this is the portmapper (man portmap)

> 113/tcpopenauth

RedHat 6.2 uses an ident daemon in daemon mode, and not inetd. You can do:

chkconfig --level 3 identd off
chkconfig --level 5 identd off

> 935/tcpopenunknown

Try using lsof, and see who is using this port.
> 1024/tcp   openkdm

Dunno, see kdm manual.

--Ariel
> 
> The auth is disabled in the inetd.conf file and the daemon was restarted
> but the port still active.
> 
> what is the 111 , 935, 1024 ?
> this is an ordinary RH6.2
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Should it scare us ?

2000-06-04 Thread Iftach Hyams

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/server/solutions/interix.asp

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Re: Should it scare us ?

2000-06-04 Thread Omer Mussaev

Iftach Hyams wrote:

> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/server/solutions/interix.asp
>

Good morning :)
Interix is somewhat 2 years on market. There is also citrix metaframe + NT
terminal server edition which make NT "perfect" platform for application
servers...

No, it should not. Moreover, MS is now _interested_ in Linux success. Just
like Intel is _interested_ in AMD.

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Re: Should it scare us ?

2000-06-04 Thread Gaal Yahas

On Sun, Jun 04, 2000 at 04:49:28PM +0200, Iftach Hyams wrote:
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/server/solutions/interix.asp

Should it scare us? I don't know. Although they profess to have ported
"over 300 utilities and tools which behave exactly as they would on
other UNIX-based systems", I doubt they included that feature that
prevents the system from crashing every two hours.

aal

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Re: NIS server on Linux

2000-06-04 Thread Mike Almogy

Ok, I have over 6000 Users that will use the NIS to authenticate to the
Radius , Mail, Ftp ,Telnet and such.

Mike.


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> On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Mike Almogy wrote:
>
>
> Depends on the load you expect. Please define your needs more
> specifically.
>
> --Ariel
> > Hi list.
> >
> > Is linux NIS services are stable enough to be run as server ?
> > I have 5 servers that i want to use as NIS clients.
> > and i want Linux to be the server.
> >
> > Maybe you recommend a different authentication/Information technique ?
(LDAP
> > and such)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mike
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Re: NIS server on Linux

2000-06-04 Thread Ariel Biener

On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Mike Almogy wrote:

Personally, we have a 30,000-40,000 userbase, with about 6-8 servers
(large) using the NIS database. The interoperability between Linux based
NIS server (master lets say) and any other OS NIS slave is horrid. The
peformance is not so hot either.

All in all, I would advise you to get a SS10-20 (aka. SunSparc 10 or 20),
and use it as NIS server. You can also get UltraSparc AXi based from Ankor
for example at reasonable prices (AXi 300 if they still have it, is the
low end). If you cannot do it either, try installing Solaris 7/8 on a PC.

--Ariel

> Ok, I have over 6000 Users that will use the NIS to authenticate to the
> Radius , Mail, Ftp ,Telnet and such.
> 
> Mike.
> 
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> From: "Ariel Biener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mike Almogy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Linux-il" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 4:11 PM
> Subject: Re: NIS server on Linux
> 
> 
> > On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Mike Almogy wrote:
> >
> >
> > Depends on the load you expect. Please define your needs more
> > specifically.
> >
> > --Ariel
> > > Hi list.
> > >
> > > Is linux NIS services are stable enough to be run as server ?
> > > I have 5 servers that i want to use as NIS clients.
> > > and i want Linux to be the server.
> > >
> > > Maybe you recommend a different authentication/Information technique ?
> (LDAP
> > > and such)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mike
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Re: Should it scare us ?

2000-06-04 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Iftach Hyams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/guide/server/solutions/interix.asp

No, it shouldn't. An interesting question to ask is, is there a way
to verify that GPL hasn't been violated in the process?

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Re: NIS server on Linux

2000-06-04 Thread Ury Segal

All in all, I would go to SUn, too. A real one ( not
PC )

Ariel Biener wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Jun 2000, Mike Almogy wrote:

[...]

> All in all, I would advise you to get a SS10-20 (aka. SunSparc 10 or 20),
> and use it as NIS server. You can also get UltraSparc AXi based from Ankor
> for example at reasonable prices (AXi 300 if they still have it, is the
> low end). If you cannot do it either, try installing Solaris 7/8 on a PC.
>
> --Ariel


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Newbie lectures

2000-06-04 Thread Ira Abramov


Today we had the last of the Newbie lecture series. Moshe Zadka gave a
well balanced quick overview of piping, basic text processing with grep,
tr and AWK, and even got 40 minutes of Python in. After the lecture
people still approched us and asked for more "meat", as in networking,
Apache, and so on.

anyone volunteering to do more? I'll be glad to do Apache.
networking, Samba is trickier since you need two machines, but it's an
option too.

(Also, on the QT: I'll be teaching a private course of 2-6 hours a week
this summer on linux SA for people with windows SA background, I'm
trying to convince my clients to let anybody join in for free, and post
to linux.org.il if anything develops)

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OT: X-terminals and SPARC hardware for sale

2000-06-04 Thread Udi Finkelstein

This is slightly offtopic, but since some people were interested in SPARC
hardware and X-terminals , they may find this interesting:

Seagull Semiconductor is selling extra equipment:

Approx. 10 PCI based SPARC workstations (from Ankor) with 128M-1GB memory.

5 or 6 X-Terminals (HDS @workstation IIRC).

They also have two 4 processor SPARC servers with 2GB or 3GB main memory, but
I'm not sure if they are still for sale. One is an original Sun, the other is
also from Ankor.

For details, please call 09-9516150 and ask for Amnon. Since he won't be next
week, anyone interested should call this week.

Udi

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Re: Should it scare us ?

2000-06-04 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

GY>> Should it scare us? I don't know. Although they profess to have ported
GY>> "over 300 utilities and tools which behave exactly as they would on
GY>> other UNIX-based systems", I doubt they included that feature that
GY>> prevents the system from crashing every two hours.

If you run exactly the same tools on Unix (I mean same binaries) they'll
crash. So it would be honest even to say "would behave much better then
they would on other UNIX-based systems" ;)

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