Re: [PATCH security-next v3 00/29] LSM: Explict LSM ordering

2018-09-29 Thread Tetsuo Handa
On 2018/09/29 5:01, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Casey Schaufler  
> wrote:
>> On 9/24/2018 5:18 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
>>> v3:
>>> - add CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE and refactor resulting logic
>>
>> Kees, you can add my
>>
>> Reviewed-by:Casey Schaufler 
>>
>> for this entire patch set. Thank you for taking this on, it's
>> a significant and important chunk of the LSM infrastructure
>> update.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> John, you'd looked at this a bit too -- do the results line up with
> your expectations?
> 
> Any thoughts from SELinux, TOMOYO, or IMA folks?

I'm OK with this approach. Thank you.



Just wondering what is "__lsm_name_##lsm" for...

+#define DEFINE_LSM(lsm)
\
+   static const char __lsm_name_##lsm[] __initconst\
+   __aligned(1) = #lsm;\
+   static struct lsm_info __lsm_##lsm  \
+   __used __section(.lsm_info.init)\
+   __aligned(sizeof(unsigned long))\
+   = { \
+   .name = __lsm_name_##lsm,   \
+
+#define END_LSM  }

We could do something like below so that funny END_LSM is not required?
I felt } like a typo error at the first glance. What we need is to
gather into one section with appropriate alignment, isn't it?

#define LSM_INFO\
static struct lsm_info __lsm_   \
__used __section(.lsm_info.init)\
__aligned(sizeof(unsigned long))\

LSM_INFO = {
.name = "tomoyo",
.flags = LSM_FLAG_LEGACY_MAJOR | LSM_FLAG_EXCLUSIVE,
.init = tomoyo_init,
};


Re: [PATCH security-next v3 00/29] LSM: Explict LSM ordering

2018-09-29 Thread Kees Cook
On Sat, Sep 29, 2018 at 3:48 AM, Tetsuo Handa
 wrote:
> On 2018/09/29 5:01, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Casey Schaufler  
>> wrote:
>>> On 9/24/2018 5:18 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
 v3:
 - add CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE and refactor resulting logic
>>>
>>> Kees, you can add my
>>>
>>> Reviewed-by:Casey Schaufler 
>>>
>>> for this entire patch set. Thank you for taking this on, it's
>>> a significant and important chunk of the LSM infrastructure
>>> update.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John, you'd looked at this a bit too -- do the results line up with
>> your expectations?
>>
>> Any thoughts from SELinux, TOMOYO, or IMA folks?
>
> I'm OK with this approach. Thank you.

Thanks for looking it over!

> Just wondering what is "__lsm_name_##lsm" for...
>
> +#define DEFINE_LSM(lsm)  
>   \
> +   static const char __lsm_name_##lsm[] __initconst\
> +   __aligned(1) = #lsm;\
> +   static struct lsm_info __lsm_##lsm  \
> +   __used __section(.lsm_info.init)\
> +   __aligned(sizeof(unsigned long))\
> +   = { \
> +   .name = __lsm_name_##lsm,   \
> +
> +#define END_LSM  }

I wasn't super happy with the END_LSM thing, but I wanted to be able
to declare the name as __initconst, otherwise it needlessly stays in
memory after init. That said, it's not a huge deal, and maybe
readability trumps a tiny meory savings?

> We could do something like below so that funny END_LSM is not required?
> I felt } like a typo error at the first glance. What we need is to
> gather into one section with appropriate alignment, isn't it?
>
> #define LSM_INFO\
> static struct lsm_info __lsm_   \
> __used __section(.lsm_info.init)\
> __aligned(sizeof(unsigned long))\
>
> LSM_INFO = {
> .name = "tomoyo",
> .flags = LSM_FLAG_LEGACY_MAJOR | LSM_FLAG_EXCLUSIVE,
> .init = tomoyo_init,
> };

I thought the structure instances would need a unique name, but it
seems the section naming removes that requirement. This seems only to
be needed if we had multiple LSMs defined in the same source file.
Though I wonder if this would be a problem for LTO in the future?

I'm happy to do whatever.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Pixel Security


Re: [PATCH security-next v3 00/29] LSM: Explict LSM ordering

2018-09-29 Thread John Johansen
On 09/29/2018 03:48 AM, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> On 2018/09/29 5:01, Kees Cook wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 8:55 AM, Casey Schaufler  
>> wrote:
>>> On 9/24/2018 5:18 PM, Kees Cook wrote:
 v3:
 - add CONFIG_LSM_ENABLE and refactor resulting logic
>>>
>>> Kees, you can add my
>>>
>>> Reviewed-by:Casey Schaufler 
>>>
>>> for this entire patch set. Thank you for taking this on, it's
>>> a significant and important chunk of the LSM infrastructure
>>> update.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John, you'd looked at this a bit too -- do the results line up with
>> your expectations?
>>
>> Any thoughts from SELinux, TOMOYO, or IMA folks?
> 
> I'm OK with this approach. Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Just wondering what is "__lsm_name_##lsm" for...
> 
> +#define DEFINE_LSM(lsm)  
>   \
> +   static const char __lsm_name_##lsm[] __initconst\
> +   __aligned(1) = #lsm;\
> +   static struct lsm_info __lsm_##lsm  \
> +   __used __section(.lsm_info.init)\
> +   __aligned(sizeof(unsigned long))\
> +   = { \
> +   .name = __lsm_name_##lsm,   \
> +
> +#define END_LSM  }
> 
> We could do something like below so that funny END_LSM is not required?
> I felt } like a typo error at the first glance. What we need is to
> gather into one section with appropriate alignment, isn't it?
> 

well and Kees was trying to automagically set the name. This threw
me off too at first and I am still trying to figure out if I would
prefer something simpler, and more standard like below.

> #define LSM_INFO\
>   static struct lsm_info __lsm_   \
>   __used __section(.lsm_info.init)\
>   __aligned(sizeof(unsigned long))\
> 
> LSM_INFO = {
>   .name = "tomoyo",
>   .flags = LSM_FLAG_LEGACY_MAJOR | LSM_FLAG_EXCLUSIVE,
>   .init = tomoyo_init,
> };
> 



Re: [PATCH security-next v3 00/29] LSM: Explict LSM ordering

2018-09-29 Thread Tetsuo Handa
On 2018/09/30 3:18, Kees Cook wrote:
>> Just wondering what is "__lsm_name_##lsm" for...
>>
>> +#define DEFINE_LSM(lsm) 
>>\
>> +   static const char __lsm_name_##lsm[] __initconst\
>> +   __aligned(1) = #lsm;\
>> +   static struct lsm_info __lsm_##lsm  \
>> +   __used __section(.lsm_info.init)\
>> +   __aligned(sizeof(unsigned long))\
>> +   = { \
>> +   .name = __lsm_name_##lsm,   \
>> +
>> +#define END_LSM  }
> 
> I wasn't super happy with the END_LSM thing, but I wanted to be able
> to declare the name as __initconst, otherwise it needlessly stays in
> memory after init. That said, it's not a huge deal, and maybe
> readability trumps a tiny meory savings?

The value of .name field is a few bytes string, and is not sensitive
information. Keeping such string in non-__initdata section unlikely
increases total memory pages required for that module.

Unless we need to generate unique address of such string for some reason,
I think that this saving is pointless.