Re: Controlling Slur Marks
Hi Greg, great to hear you’re starting with LilyPond! On 30/08/2022 21:52, Greg Lindstrom wrote: I see later in the documentation there is a snippet on how to merge voices, so that's next on my list. There’s one bit of important advice that usually makes the experience of learning LilyPond (which can be steep and/or daunting) much better: fully read and understand the Learning Manual at least once. It’s important to grasp some fundamental concepts such as to avoid misunderstandings down the line. Voices are one of those concepts, so you’re definitely on the right track there ;) Best, Simon
Re: Padding paper setting not honored
On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 4:45 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>
> Le 31/08/2022 à 01:33, Knute Snortum a écrit :
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have a problem that is unfortunately very difficult to reproduce.
> > It seems in some circumstances that the padding setting in the paper
> > block is not honored. I've attached a screenshot. In the middle you
> > can see that the slur from the bottom stave is going through the pedal
> > marking of the top stave. It looks like the padding is measured from
> > the ottava bracket and not the slur, but that's just a guess.
> >
> > I have tried and failed to create a MWE. I've attached my attempt but
> > unfortunately it does not reproduce the problem. (I couldn't get the
> > ottava bracket below the slur which may be why the MWE fails.)
> >
> > For the brave, I have uploaded my source files to GitHub:
> > https://github.com/ksnortum/chopin-opus-25/tree/main
> >
> > If anyone is willing to tackle this problem, it would be much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Well, here is a reasonably minimal example:
>
> \version "2.23.12"
>
> veryHigh =
>\shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 10) (0 . 10) (0 . 0)) \etc
>
> <<
>\new Staff {
> R1
> \break
> % OK
> c'''2\veryHigh ( 2)
> \break
> % KO
> c'''2\veryHigh ( \change Staff = down 2)
>}
>\new Staff = down {
> s1*3
>}
> >>
>
>
> Unfortunately, this is hard to fix. The second is cross-staff. Because of
> this, its shape, and consequently its height, depend on the exact distance
> between the staves (inside one system). But that distance depends itself
> on everything else that is on the page (other systems), as LilyPond will
> try to find a good fit for the page globally. So LilyPond needs to space
> the staves before it can know how tall the slur it is.
>
> (*Maybe* it would be possible to let LilyPond reuse the pure height
> estimation
> in this case. I'm not sure, and I haven't tried.)
>
> For now, I am afraid you need to resort to manual system positioning,
> as described on
>
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/explicit-staff-and-system-positioning
>
> Best,
> Jean
>
>
Thanks Jean, for looking into this, and for the MWE.
--
Knute Snortum
More efficient way to code some fingering?
The example below shows some fingerings as I would like them to appear.
Is there a better and more efficient way to code this music and achieve the
same result without using multiple \finger commands for the same note?
(I am placing the fingerings above the notes to indicate clearly that they
pertain to right hand. In some places, the left hand must strike some notes in
the second or lower voice. My score places any fingering pertaining to the left
hand below the notes in the second voice. Therefore, I do not want to place any
right-hand fingerings below the notes of the second voice.)
If the Lilypond documentation or snippets provide a good example of a better
way to do what I am trying to achieve and I missed it, please point me to
appropriate references.
Thanks for any advice.
Joe Srednicki
*
\version "2.22.2"\language "english"
global = { \key c \major \numericTimeSignature \time 2/4}
rightOne = \relative c'' { \global e4^5 fs^\finger "2" ^\finger "5" | }
rightTwo = \relative c'' { \global c16 b c^\finger "2" ^\finger "5-4" d c e
d c | }
\score { \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "right" << \rightOne \\ \rightTwo
>> >>}
Re: More efficient way to code some fingering?
Hello Joseph,
\finger is only really necessary for using a markup as fingering indication
(like in \finger "5-4"). For simple numeric fingerings you can always use ^/-/_
with a number. So instead of fs^\finger "2" ^\finger "5" simply do ^2^5.
Cheers,
Valentin
Am Mittwoch, 31. August 2022, 20:48:29 CEST schrieb Joseph Srednicki:
> The example below shows some fingerings as I would like them to appear.
> Is there a better and more efficient way to code this music and achieve the
> same result without using multiple \finger commands for the same note? (I
> am placing the fingerings above the notes to indicate clearly that they
> pertain to right hand. In some places, the left hand must strike some notes
> in the second or lower voice. My score places any fingering pertaining to
> the left hand below the notes in the second voice. Therefore, I do not want
> to place any right-hand fingerings below the notes of the second voice.) If
> the Lilypond documentation or snippets provide a good example of a better
> way to do what I am trying to achieve and I missed it, please point me to
> appropriate references. Thanks for any advice.
> Joe Srednicki
> *
> \version "2.22.2"\language "english"
> global = { \key c \major \numericTimeSignature \time 2/4}
> rightOne = \relative c'' { \global e4^5 fs^\finger "2" ^\finger "5" | }
> rightTwo = \relative c'' { \globalc16 b c^\finger "2" ^\finger "5-4" d
> c e d c | } \score { \new PianoStaff <<\new Staff = "right" <<
> \rightOne \\ \rightTwo >> >>}
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