Re: bar number on choir staff group and piano staff group

[Torsten Hämmerle]

Hello Ming,

It is sufficient to include the Bar_number_engraver into the \with statement
of the upper Staff of the PianoStaff, as in



bar-number-staffgroup.png
  

ChoirStaff does not need special treatment in this case:  it is the
uppermost stave so that the standard bar number on Score level will be OK.

HTH,
Torsten




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How to increase the "gap" between SATB group of staves and basso continuo staff ?

[Ziad Gholam]

Hello, to all the lilyponders !


Sorry if the issue have already been delt with...

I am working on a music score for SATB & basso continuo (figured bass) :
I would like to enforce LilyPond to increase the gap (or spacing) between
the SATB voices and the basso continuo staff ...
I think that the spacing should be at least twice the one the separate two
successive voices, is it possible to do so ?


Nota Bene :
I am still using version 2.18 as the official lilypond site declares
that 2.19 is still "unstable" ...
So, until the next stable version 2.20 is ready to be launched, I prefer to
"abide the rules" edicted by LP !


Thanks for your advice(s)

__

Regards,
Ziad GHOLAM
.

Re: How to increase the "gap" between SATB group of staves and basso continuo staff ?

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Ziad,

> I am working on a music score for SATB & basso continuo (figured bass) : 
> I would like to enforce LilyPond to increase the gap (or spacing) between the 
> SATB voices and the basso continuo staff ...
> I think that the spacing should be at least twice the one the separate two 
> successive voices, is it possible to do so ?

\layout {
  \context {
\FiguredBass
\override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-staff-spacing.padding = #30
  }
}

Play with the number (in this example, 30) to get your desired distance.

Hope that helps!
Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his)
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info

Re: How to increase the "gap" between SATB group of staves and basso continuo staff ?

[Ziad Gholam]

Hello
Thanks for the clue ...

I already have this  my \layout section :

\context
{
\Score
figuredBassFormatter = #format-bass-figures
}

So I tried adding a \context { \FiguredBAss and the \override ... with
several numbers : #30 and #40 ...
Unfortunately, It did not work  !

Thanks anyway .




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Cordialement,

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Le lun. 17 févr. 2020 à 16:04, Kieren MacMillan <
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> a écrit :

> Hi Ziad,
>
> > I am working on a music score for SATB & basso continuo (figured bass) :
> > I would like to enforce LilyPond to increase the gap (or spacing)
> between the SATB voices and the basso continuo staff ...
> > I think that the spacing should be at least twice the one the separate
> two successive voices, is it possible to do so ?
>
> \layout {
>   \context {
> \FiguredBass
> \override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-staff-spacing.padding = #30
>   }
> }
>
> Play with the number (in this example, 30) to get your desired distance.
>
> Hope that helps!
> Kieren.
> 
>
> Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his)
> ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
> ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
>
>

Re: How to increase the "gap" between SATB group of staves and basso continuo staff ?

[David Kastrup]

Ziad Gholam  writes:

> Hello, to all the lilyponders !
>
>
> Sorry if the issue have already been delt with...
>
> I am working on a music score for SATB & basso continuo (figured bass) :
> I would like to enforce LilyPond to increase the gap (or spacing) between
> the SATB voices and the basso continuo staff ...
> I think that the spacing should be at least twice the one the separate two
> successive voices, is it possible to do so ?
>
>
> Nota Bene :
> I am still using version 2.18 as the official lilypond site declares
> that 2.19 is still "unstable" ...
> So, until the next stable version 2.20 is ready to be launched, I prefer to
> "abide the rules" edicted by LP !

The versions after 2.19.80 have been prereleases from the stable branch.
2.19.84 is the last prerelease.  If people don't use and test it and
report back problems, 2.20.0 will not be one iota more stable than
2.19.84.  There is no magic process by which untested software becomes
more stable, given enough time.

-- 
David Kastrup
My replies have a tendency to cause friction.  To help mitigating
damage, feel free to forward problematic posts to me adding a subject
like "timeout 1d" (for a suggested timeout of 1 day) or "offensive".

Re: How to increase the "gap" between SATB group of staves and basso continuo staff ?

[Aaron Hill]

On 2020-02-17 7:29 am, Ziad Gholam wrote:

So I tried adding a \context { \FiguredBAss and the \override ... with
several numbers : #30 and #40 ...
Unfortunately, It did not work  !

Le lun. 17 févr. 2020 à 16:04, Kieren MacMillan <
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> a écrit :



\layout {
  \context {
\FiguredBass
\override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-staff-spacing.padding = #30
  }
}


I believe it should be nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing.
^^^

-- Aaron Hill

Re: How to increase the "gap" between SATB group of staves and basso continuo staff ?

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Ziad,

> Thanks for the clue ...
> Unfortunately, It did not work  ! 

Without you posting an MWE, how can we possibly diagnose the problem?

My suggestion seems to work perfectly for me:

%%%
\version "2.19.83"

\score {
  <<
\new Staff { c' }
\new FiguredBass \figuremode { < 6 >4 }
  >>
}

\score {
  <<
\new Staff { c' }
\new FiguredBass \figuremode { < 6 >4 }
  >>
  \layout {
\context {
  \FiguredBass
  \override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing.padding = #30
}
  }
}
%%%

Cheers,
Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his)
‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info

Re: How to increase the "gap" between SATB group of staves and basso continuo staff ?

[Ziad Gholam]

Thanks!


I am going to download and istall version 2.19.84 and then I shall try to
execute your script ...



__

Cordialement,

Ziad GHOLAM

.


Le lun. 17 févr. 2020 à 17:20, Kieren MacMillan <
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> a écrit :

> Hi Ziad,
>
> > Thanks for the clue ...
> > Unfortunately, It did not work  !
>
> Without you posting an MWE, how can we possibly diagnose the problem?
>
> My suggestion seems to work perfectly for me:
>
> %%%
> \version "2.19.83"
>
> \score {
>   <<
> \new Staff { c' }
> \new FiguredBass \figuremode { < 6 >4 }
>   >>
> }
>
> \score {
>   <<
> \new Staff { c' }
> \new FiguredBass \figuremode { < 6 >4 }
>   >>
>   \layout {
> \context {
>   \FiguredBass
>   \override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing.padding =
> #30
> }
>   }
> }
> %%%
>
> Cheers,
> Kieren.
> 
>
> Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his)
> ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
> ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
>
>

Re: How to increase the "gap" between SATB group of staves and basso continuo staff ?

[Ziad Gholam]

Hello again,

As I searched more thoroughly into LP Online initiation Manual,
I found the answer using :


\new ChoirStaff \with {
\override StaffGrouper.
  staffgroup-staff-spacing.basic-distance = #15
  }


Thus, the whole group od staves will be separated from the following
group/staff ...


The result is   OK   !

I am sorry I bothered you with my question, and thank you all for your
advices.




__

Regards,
Ziad GHOLAM
.


Le lun. 17 févr. 2020 à 17:20, Kieren MacMillan <
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> a écrit :

> Hi Ziad,
>
> > Thanks for the clue ...
> > Unfortunately, It did not work  !
>
> Without you posting an MWE, how can we possibly diagnose the problem?
>
> My suggestion seems to work perfectly for me:
>
> %%%
> \version "2.19.83"
>
> \score {
>   <<
> \new Staff { c' }
> \new FiguredBass \figuremode { < 6 >4 }
>   >>
> }
>
> \score {
>   <<
> \new Staff { c' }
> \new FiguredBass \figuremode { < 6 >4 }
>   >>
>   \layout {
> \context {
>   \FiguredBass
>   \override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing.padding =
> #30
> }
>   }
> }
> %%%
>
> Cheers,
> Kieren.
> 
>
> Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his)
> ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info
> ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
>
>

Re: bar number on choir staff group and piano staff group

[yming tsang]

Hi Torsten,

Thank you for the solution.
I code   \consists "Bar_number_engraver"
In the piano staff.

Is this the right place

Thanks,
Ming


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\absolute, was Re: Stop Tablature from moving up an octave

[David Wright]

Opinions here aren't aimed at P-L G. The example just illustrates
what I see as a problem.

On Sat 15 Feb 2020 at 10:39:57 (-0500), Pierre-Luc Gauthier wrote:
> Guitar (like the bass) is a transposing instrument.
> 
> The Tab part though is not transposing (obviously).
> 
> \version "2.21.0"
> 
> song = {
>   % here you write the music the
>   % way it should sound
> 
> |
> }
> 
> guitarStaff = \transpose c c' {
>   % Here we transpose because a
>   % guitar is a transposing instrument
>   \new Staff \with {
> \transposition c
> % This^ will help with MIDI and
> % with \cueDuring etc.
>   } \new Voice \with {
>   } \song
> }
> 
> guitarTab = {
>   \new TabStaff \with {
>   } \new TabVoice \with {
>   } \song
> }
> 
> guitarReal = \new Staff \with {
>   \clef bass
> } \new Voice \with {
> } \song
> 
> guitarPart = \new GrandStaff \with {
>   instrumentName = "Guitar"
> } <<
>   \guitarStaff
>   \guitarTab
> >>
> 
> \score {
>   <<
> \guitarPart
> \guitarReal
>   >>
> }
> 
> For what it's worth, I wish somebody would have told me earlier that I
> should use absolute mode rather than relative.
> e.g. :  e, is the low e on your guitar.

Ironically, it doesn't appear to me that you *have* used \absolute¹
mode but have, rather, corrected the OP's "misuse"² of \relative.

> Le sam. 15 févr. 2020 à 09:49, David Kastrup  a écrit :
> > Bob Stricklin  writes:
> > > I am new to Lilypond and can not get Tablature for guitar to work like I 
> > > think it should.
> > > The documentation indicates Lilypond will select the lowest fret and open 
> > > strings.
> > > When I run my example below the tablature selects fret position 12 and 
> > > not zero for three of the note groups.
> > > I want it to select zero for all strings played. Is there an easy 
> > > solution to this issue?
> > > Its odd that the code works properly for one of the three note groupings.
> > > This is to represent finger picking a bass note and two other notes with 
> > > fingers.
> > > My Simplified code input using Frescobaldi on Ubuntu 18.04.
> > >
> > > \version "2.18.2"
> > > song = {
> > >  
> > > }
> > >
> > >   \score {
> > >   <<
> > > %   \override StringNumber #'transparent = ##t
> > >\relative c'
> > >  {\song }
> > >}

Using \relative here, and in this way, is very unwise³. If you want to
use \relative, use it in the definition of song, thus:
song = \relative c' {
  e,, …
}
or
song = \relative e, {
  e …
}
so that \song yields absolute-pitched music. This will force you to
use the correct constructions (which others demonstrated) because
\relative c' {\song } }
(which looks like an attempt at transposing \song) is now impotent.

> > >\new TabStaff
> > > {\song}
> > >>>
> > > }
> >
> > Looks to me like you are entering everything an octave too high.  From
> > \relative c' the note e, just gives e while the lowest note of a guitar
> > is actually e, .
> >
> > You are aware that guitar notes written in treble clef sound an octave
> > lower than written?  "Correct" guitar notes are written using \clef
> > "treble_8" though a lot of notes abound not bothering spelling out the
> > octavation.
> >
> > But LilyPond does care about the actual pitch.  Check the Midi and
> > compare with your instrument.

¹ IOW,   { c }  ≢  \absolute { c }

  The use of \absolute doesn't seem to be well documented. In the
  2.19.83 versions, I see no occurrences in either NR or LM.
  Absolute and relative are indexed, but \relative is only indexed in
  LM and the command index of NR, and \absolute itself never appears.

² I used scare quotes because there might be sophisticated users
  who are happy to write unanchored notes and use them inside
  different \relative commands.

³ I think that some of the examples in LM may encourage people to use
  constructions that could cause people grief in the future. Look,
  for example, at § 3.2.1 p51 (the first fragment in the section with
  coloured notes). Enclosing such a construction in \relative,
  rather than using a separate \relative for each voice, does not
  scale to a longer piece of music.

Cheers,
David.