Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

2014-04-22 1:10 GMT+02:00 Gilberto Agostinho :

> Hello LilyPonders,
>

Hi Gilberto,


>
> I am current writing a orchestral score with a lot of instruments on it,
> meaning that I will always have only a single system per page (no hidden
> staves). The thing is, the distance between the bottom staff (the Double
> Bass in my case) and the bottom of the page keeps changing from page to
> page. I am looking for a way of keeping it constant, i.e. always expand the
> whole system until the bottom, so the distance between the last staff and
> the bottom of the page will be effectively only the margin. In summary,
> something similar to what ragged-bottom does, but concerning staves and not
> systems.
>
> I thought the answer would lie somewhere in 4.4.1 Flexible vertical spacing
> within systems or 4.1.4 Flexible vertical spacing \paper variables, but I
> simply cannot find it. Could anyone please point me in the right direction?
> Thank you very much.
>

See  http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=371

HTH,
~Pierre
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Re: Organ Fingering Notation

[Nick Payne]

On 22/04/14 14:47, Brian Barker wrote:

At 11:19 21/04/2014 -0700, Zack Noname wrote:
There is a fingering symbol that I don't know the name of (and so it 
is hard to look up in the documentation without a name) ...
If I want the alto voice on the treble staff played with the left 
hand there is a symbol that looks like [ without the bottom line and 
if I want the note on the bass clef played with the right hand its a 
[ without the upper line ...


Anyone know what I'm "talking" about?


Interestingly, Elaine Gould knows what you are talking about but also 
doesn't know their name:
A verbal instruction may indicate that notes are to be taken with the 
other hand. ... Alternatively, such notes may be shown with an 
incomplete bracket, extending vertically from the notehead upwards 
for right-hand notes, downwards for left-hand notes. (at p. 305)


You can make the symbols with postscript markup, but if you want the 
symbols next to the notehead then they would have to be moved from the 
default markup position:


\version "2.19.4"


rh = \markup { \postscript #"0.18 setlinewidth 0 0 moveto -1 0 rlineto 0 
2.5 rlineto stroke" }


lh = \markup { \postscript #"0.18 setlinewidth 0 0 moveto 0 2.5 rlineto 
1 0 rlineto stroke" }



\relative c'' {

c^\rh

c^\lh

}


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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Urs Liska]

It's cool to have someone around with such a good and current knowledge of the 
LSR :-)

Pierre Perol-Schneider  schrieb am 22.04.2014:
>2014-04-22 1:10 GMT+02:00 Gilberto Agostinho
>:
>
>> Hello LilyPonders,
>>
>
>Hi Gilberto,
>
>
>>
>> I am current writing a orchestral score with a lot of instruments on
>it,
>> meaning that I will always have only a single system per page (no
>hidden
>> staves). The thing is, the distance between the bottom staff (the
>Double
>> Bass in my case) and the bottom of the page keeps changing from page
>to
>> page. I am looking for a way of keeping it constant, i.e. always
>expand the
>> whole system until the bottom, so the distance between the last staff
>and
>> the bottom of the page will be effectively only the margin. In
>summary,
>> something similar to what ragged-bottom does, but concerning staves
>and not
>> systems.
>>
>> I thought the answer would lie somewhere in 4.4.1 Flexible vertical
>spacing
>> within systems or 4.1.4 Flexible vertical spacing \paper variables,
>but I
>> simply cannot find it. Could anyone please point me in the right
>direction?
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>
>See  http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=371
>
>HTH,
>~Pierre
>
>
>
>
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Re: Certain accidentals

[David Kastrup]

Urs Liska  writes:

>> Christ van Willegen  schrieb:

[Amadeus]

>>>And if you'd life to get an F-natural in the key of D major, how would
>>>you write that?
>
> I'll look that up, I have got the manual.

My guess would be something like fn or its equivalent according to
Amadeus' input conventions (that would go nicely with fs/ff for
f sharp/f flat)

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Re: Whiteout box function by Thomas Morley / need help

[David Kastrup]

"Karol Majewski"  writes:

> Although I know nothing about scheme, I've managed to slim down this 
> function, so that there are no optional arguments. Now I'll try to find out 
> why it doesn't work for DynamicText grob.
>
> Harm, thanks in advance for any hints. Perhaps we can mix your function with 
> flexible-stencil-whiteout (see my first post).
>
> %
>
> \version "2.19.5"
>
> moreWhiteout =
> #(define-music-function
>   (parser location adds)
>   (pair?)
>   (define
> (interval-add iv-1 iv-2)
> (cons
>   (+
> (car iv-1)
> (car iv-2))
>   (+
> (cdr iv-1)
> (cdr iv-2

That's a misnomer since it does not "add" intervals.  Functionally, it
is the same as offset-add, or (cons-map + iv-1 iv-2).

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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Hi Pierre,


Schneidy wrote
> See  http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=371

Thanks for your message, but unfortunately this is not exactly what I am
looking for. Indeed this example expands the staves of a system throughout a
page, but it still has different distances between the bottom staff and the
paper margin. Please open this  PDF file
   I
produced using that code (the only modification I did was to remove the
tagline) and have a look by yourself: when opening in some PDF viewer,
select fit page to screen and then flick around the pages around. You will
notice that the bottom staff does not keep a constant distance from the
bottom of the page (the difference is particularly strong between pages 2
and 3).

Best,
Gilberto





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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Gilberto Agostinho]

For comparison, have a look on what Sibelius 7 does in the same situation: 
sib_example.pdf
  

You will notice that the distance between last staff and the margin in the
1st page is different than the rest (I have no clue why and I will not try
to figure this out since I don't use Sibelius anymore), but notice how in
all other pages the bottom staff keeps a constant distance from the margin.



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Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Davide Liessi]

Dear Frescobaldi&LilyPond&Mac users,
as some of you may know, I'm trying to make Frescobaldi more
Mac-friendly, by packaging it as a native application bundle inside a
standard DMG disk image.

I would be very grateful if you could test the experimental
application bundle I prepared and report the results and your version
of Mac OS X, especially if you are running 10.7 (Lion) or higher. [1]

You can find a DMG disk image containing the application bundle at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o4o65629jv9ytw4/Frescobaldi-2.0.16-dev-20140421.dmg

The test should be harmless: the only collateral effect is that any
change you'll make to the settings inside this application bundle will
be picked up by your usual installation of Frescobaldi, since they'll
share the same preferences file. [2]

Anyway, please be aware that this application bundle is considered
experimental and is built from a development version of Frescobaldi,
so it isn't suitable for everyday use: after the tests I advise you to
delete the application bundle and wait for the next release. [3]

Best wishes.
Davide


[1] My machine runs 10.6 (Snow Leopard) and I currently have only
occasional access to a 10.8 (Mountain Lion) machine.

[2] Actually, if your usual version of Frescobaldi is older than
October 2013, your settings will become inaccessible from that
version, while they will still be accessible from versions of the
program newer than that date.
But if you're running such an old version, you should seriously
consider updating to a newer one: Frescobaldi has improved a whole lot
in the last months!

[3] To avoid messing with your current setup (except for the settings
changes) and forgetting to delete the application bundle after the
test, you can run the application directly from the disk image,
without copying it to the /Applications directory.

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Re: Organ Fingering Notation

[Robin Bannister]

Zack wrote:

> I'm hoping [...] someone in the musical typesetting world
> will know its name and can point me to how to recreate it

Well, I don't know its name but I chose a private one once,
slightly unlikely so as to avoid conflict with the real name.


Search the user archives for my (undocumented) thumbBracket_demo.ly.


I just checked this out with 2.18.
Convert-ly has no problems with the syntax updates
but it misses all the intervening minor layout changes
involving padding and collision avoidance,
which in turn affects what tweaking may be needed.


The hcloser tweak in line 218 (sic) now appears obsolete.
Its value is the 2 in "R102="
which then becomes "R100="
which can be reduced to "R1=".


Cheers,
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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[flup2]

Hello,

It works without problem under OS X 10.9 and 10.7 for me.

One little note (not related to this particular bundle): when checking the
option "Show splashscreen", Frescobaldi doesn't show its window; I have to
click on the Frescobaldi icon in the dock. I don't need to do that when the
splashscreen doesn't show.

Thanks a lot for your work.

Philippe



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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Davide Liessi]

2014-04-22 13:59 GMT+02:00 flup2 :
> It works without problem under OS X 10.9 and 10.7 for me.

Thanks for testing!

> One little note (not related to this particular bundle): when checking the
> option "Show splashscreen", Frescobaldi doesn't show its window; I have to
> click on the Frescobaldi icon in the dock. I don't need to do that when the
> splashscreen doesn't show.

If I remember correctly, you had already pointed this out some weeks ago.
Can you please open an issue for this on GitHub?
I'll look into it after the standalone app tests.

Best wishes.
Davide

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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Urs Liska]

I'm going to meet a Mac user on Saturday who has tried to set up Frescobaldi 
without success so far. We'll happily do some testing then.

Urs

Davide Liessi  schrieb am 22.04.2014:
>Dear Frescobaldi&LilyPond&Mac users,
>as some of you may know, I'm trying to make Frescobaldi more
>Mac-friendly, by packaging it as a native application bundle inside a
>standard DMG disk image.
>
>I would be very grateful if you could test the experimental
>application bundle I prepared and report the results and your version
>of Mac OS X, especially if you are running 10.7 (Lion) or higher. [1]
>
>You can find a DMG disk image containing the application bundle at
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/o4o65629jv9ytw4/Frescobaldi-2.0.16-dev-20140421.dmg
>
>The test should be harmless: the only collateral effect is that any
>change you'll make to the settings inside this application bundle will
>be picked up by your usual installation of Frescobaldi, since they'll
>share the same preferences file. [2]
>
>Anyway, please be aware that this application bundle is considered
>experimental and is built from a development version of Frescobaldi,
>so it isn't suitable for everyday use: after the tests I advise you to
>delete the application bundle and wait for the next release. [3]
>
>Best wishes.
>Davide
>
>
>[1] My machine runs 10.6 (Snow Leopard) and I currently have only
>occasional access to a 10.8 (Mountain Lion) machine.
>
>[2] Actually, if your usual version of Frescobaldi is older than
>October 2013, your settings will become inaccessible from that
>version, while they will still be accessible from versions of the
>program newer than that date.
>But if you're running such an old version, you should seriously
>consider updating to a newer one: Frescobaldi has improved a whole lot
>in the last months!
>
>[3] To avoid messing with your current setup (except for the settings
>changes) and forgetting to delete the application bundle after the
>test, you can run the application directly from the disk image,
>without copying it to the /Applications directory.
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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Gilberto,

Does setting ragged-bottom = ##f and last-bottom-spacing appropriately not work?

Cheers,
Kieren.
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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Christ van Willegen]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Davide Liessi  wrote:
> Dear Frescobaldi&LilyPond&Mac users,
> as some of you may know, I'm trying to make Frescobaldi more
> Mac-friendly, by packaging it as a native application bundle inside a
> standard DMG disk image.

Great work, much appreciated! Will try to test tonight!

Christ van Willegen

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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Conor Cook]

I'll try to test it, too, but I have been using Frescobaldi on Mavericks 10.9 
since Februrary or March, with little trouble.  Other than reportable bugs, it 
sometimes warns me of “other" systems trying to change the file, though it's 
only itself doing so, and when I quit, it sometimes crashes, but after I'm done 
with it.

I have no recollection of the steps I went through to get it working, but I 
imagine I simply followed the steps and Googled the error solutions as they 
arose.

Again, I'll take some time to test it.

Best,
Conor Cook

> On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:33 AM, Christ van Willegen  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Davide Liessi  
>> wrote:
>> Dear Frescobaldi&LilyPond&Mac users,
>> as some of you may know, I'm trying to make Frescobaldi more
>> Mac-friendly, by packaging it as a native application bundle inside a
>> standard DMG disk image.
> 
> Great work, much appreciated! Will try to test tonight!
> 
> Christ van Willegen
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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Davide Liessi]

2014-04-22 12:42 GMT+02:00 Davide Liessi :
> I would be very grateful if you could test the experimental
> application bundle I prepared and report the results and your version
> of Mac OS X, especially if you are running 10.7 (Lion) or higher. [1]

A user reported the following error when changing the background color
of the source window.

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File 
"[...]/Frescobaldi.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.7/frescobaldi_app/preferences/__init__.py",
line 111, in done
  File 
"[...]/Frescobaldi.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.7/frescobaldi_app/preferences/__init__.py",
line 141, in saveSettings
  File 
"[...]/Frescobaldi.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.7/frescobaldi_app/signals.py",
line 191, in emit
  File 
"[...]/Frescobaldi.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.7/frescobaldi_app/signals.py",
line 298, in call
  File 
"[...]/Frescobaldi.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.7/frescobaldi_app/popplerview.py",
line 67, in readSettings
  File 
"[...]/Frescobaldi.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.7/frescobaldi_app/qpopplerview/kineticscrollarea.py",
line 127, in setScrollbarsVisible
RuntimeError: wrapped C/C++ object of type View has been deleted

I wasn't able to reproduce it on my 10.6 machine and I don't know
whether this is related to the packaging or is a bug in the code of
Frescobaldi.
Can you please change that and similar settings?
Tonight I'll be able to test again on the 10.8 machine, I'll see if I
can reproduce the problem.

Best wishes.
Davide

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Re: [Frescobaldi] Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Paul Morris]

On Apr 22, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Davide Liessi  wrote:

> I would be very grateful if you could test the experimental application 
> bundle I prepared and report the results and your version of Mac OS X, 
> especially if you are running 10.7 (Lion) or higher. [1]

Hi Davide,  I just tried it on OSX 10.9.2 (Mavericks) and everything went well. 
 Opened a file, edited, rendered, saved, MIDI playback, all worked.  I didn't 
notice anything that wasn't working as expected.  I have only run it from the 
disk image.

Thanks again for all your work on MacPorts and now on this! 

-Paul


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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[pls]

Hey Davide,

no problems on OS 10.9.2!

Thanks a lot!
patrick
On 22.04.2014, at 12:42, Davide Liessi  wrote:

> Dear Frescobaldi&LilyPond&Mac users,
> as some of you may know, I'm trying to make Frescobaldi more
> Mac-friendly, by packaging it as a native application bundle inside a
> standard DMG disk image.
> 
> I would be very grateful if you could test the experimental
> application bundle I prepared and report the results and your version
> of Mac OS X, especially if you are running 10.7 (Lion) or higher. [1]
> 
> You can find a DMG disk image containing the application bundle at
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/o4o65629jv9ytw4/Frescobaldi-2.0.16-dev-20140421.dmg
> 
> The test should be harmless: the only collateral effect is that any
> change you'll make to the settings inside this application bundle will
> be picked up by your usual installation of Frescobaldi, since they'll
> share the same preferences file. [2]
> 
> Anyway, please be aware that this application bundle is considered
> experimental and is built from a development version of Frescobaldi,
> so it isn't suitable for everyday use: after the tests I advise you to
> delete the application bundle and wait for the next release. [3]
> 
> Best wishes.
> Davide
> 
> 
> [1] My machine runs 10.6 (Snow Leopard) and I currently have only
> occasional access to a 10.8 (Mountain Lion) machine.
> 
> [2] Actually, if your usual version of Frescobaldi is older than
> October 2013, your settings will become inaccessible from that
> version, while they will still be accessible from versions of the
> program newer than that date.
> But if you're running such an old version, you should seriously
> consider updating to a newer one: Frescobaldi has improved a whole lot
> in the last months!
> 
> [3] To avoid messing with your current setup (except for the settings
> changes) and forgetting to delete the application bundle after the
> test, you can run the application directly from the disk image,
> without copying it to the /Applications directory.
> 
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Re: Guitar bends

[Martyn Quick]

On Sun, 20/4/14, Thomas Morley  wrote:
> 
> see:
> https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/tree/master/notation-snippets/guitar-string-bending

Thanks very much... the improvements that have been done in that seem to be 
sufficient for my needs.  I'm glad to see it is still being worked on (or at 
least was reasonably recently).

Martyn

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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Hi Kieren


Kieren MacMillan wrote
> Does setting ragged-bottom = ##f and last-bottom-spacing appropriately not
> work?

Not really. For instance, the PDF file I posted before here (the one
produced by LilyPond, directly from the LSR) contains the line ragged-bottom
= ##f in its \paper block. My guess is that ragged-bottom only forces a
system to the bottom when there is more than one system , but not staves
inside of a system.

On my own orchestral score, I have both ragged-bottom = ##f and
ragged-last-bottom = ##f.

Take care,
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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Davide Liessi]

2014-04-22 14:42 GMT+02:00 Davide Liessi :
> A user reported the following error when changing the background color
> of the source window.

That user reported that after closing and reopening Frescobaldi also
he could not reproduce the error.
Anyway, please play around with the settings. :)
Best wishes.
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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Gilberto,

>> Does setting ragged-bottom = ##f and last-bottom-spacing appropriately not 
>> work?
> Not really.

This looks fine to me:

\version "2.18.2"

\paper {
  ragged-bottom = ##f
  last-bottom-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0) (padding 
. 0) (stretchability . 0))
}

someMusic = \repeat unfold 4 { c'1 \break }

\score {
  <<
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
\new Staff \someMusic
  >>
}

What is the problem you’re seeing?

Cheers,
Kieren.
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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Hi Kieren,


Kieren MacMillan wrote
> This looks fine to me:
> 
> [...]
> 
> \paper {
>   ragged-bottom = ##f
>   last-bottom-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0)
> (padding . 0) (stretchability . 0))
> }
> 
> [...]
> 
> What is the problem you’re seeing?

You are totally right, this works as expected (sorry, I read too quickly
your first message and I swore you wrote ragged-last-bottom instead of
last-bottom-spacing). This, for instance, fixes the LSR snippet before.

But on my orchestral score, the last staff still keep moving up and down,
and this is due to the fact that the music there is more complex! So there
are dynamics, low notes, sometimes there is a whole page without a note. I
believe LilyPond is taking in consideration the distance between the lowest
grob, and not the staff itself.

So the question would be: is there a way of locking the last staff in place,
regardless of the music it has?

Thank you so much for your help.

Take care,
Gilberto



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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Stan Sanderson]

On Apr 22, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Davide Liessi  wrote:

> 2014-04-22 14:42 GMT+02:00 Davide Liessi :
>> A user reported the following error when changing the background color
>> of the source window.
> 
> That user reported that after closing and reopening Frescobaldi also
> he could not reproduce the error.
> Anyway, please play around with the settings. :)
> Best wishes.
> Davide

No problem here when changing background color while running from the disk 
image on OS 10.9.2. Thanks again Davide and, of course, Wilbert!

Stan
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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Gilberto,

> You are totally right, this works as expected (sorry, I read too quickly
> your first message and I swore you wrote ragged-last-bottom instead of
> last-bottom-spacing)

I wrote both.  =)

> I believe LilyPond is taking in consideration the distance
> between the lowest grob, and not the staff itself.

Correct: the ‘skyline’, as it were.

> So the question would be: is there a way of locking the last staff in place,
> regardless of the music it has?

I would imagine so, but I don’t have time to hunt it down right now — sorry.

Best,
Kieren.
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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[David Kastrup]

Gilberto Agostinho  writes:

> Hi Kieren,
>
>
> Kieren MacMillan wrote
>> This looks fine to me:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> \paper {
>>   ragged-bottom = ##f
>>   last-bottom-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 0) (minimum-distance . 0)
>> (padding . 0) (stretchability . 0))
>> }
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>> What is the problem you’re seeing?
>
> You are totally right, this works as expected (sorry, I read too quickly
> your first message and I swore you wrote ragged-last-bottom instead of
> last-bottom-spacing). This, for instance, fixes the LSR snippet before.
>
> But on my orchestral score, the last staff still keep moving up and down,
> and this is due to the fact that the music there is more complex! So there
> are dynamics, low notes, sometimes there is a whole page without a note. I
> believe LilyPond is taking in consideration the distance between the lowest
> grob, and not the staff itself.
>
> So the question would be: is there a way of locking the last staff in place,
> regardless of the music it has?

I should think that using a large negative padding and/or
minimum-distance would create constant positions for the last system, at
the cost of potential overlaps/off-paper stuff.

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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Hi Kieren


Kieren MacMillan wrote
>> You are totally right, this works as expected (sorry, I read too quickly
>> your first message and I swore you wrote ragged-last-bottom instead of
>> last-bottom-spacing)
> 
> I wrote both.  =)

Actually you did write "Does setting ragged-bottom = ##f and
last-bottom-spacing appropriately not work?", so no ragged-last-bottom, but
that doesn't matter now :)


Kieren MacMillan wrote
>> So the question would be: is there a way of locking the last staff in
>> place,
>> regardless of the music it has?
> 
> I would imagine so, but I don’t have time to hunt it down right now —
> sorry.

Certainly Kieren, it was not a request directed to you! I simply wanted to
pose the question to the mailing list in general.

I really appreciate your help, thanks a lot!

Take care,
Gilberto




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Re: Orchestral score: bottom staff position

[Gilberto Agostinho]

David Kastrup wrote
> I should think that using a large negative padding and/or
> minimum-distance would create constant positions for the last system, at
> the cost of potential overlaps/off-paper stuff.

Yes, that's what I was looking for, David! Thanks a lot!

Take care,
Gilberto



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Possible bug: grace note/piano staff/repeat

[Knute Snortum]

I may have found a bug in LilyPond 2.18.2 but since I'm new to typesetting
I want to run it past the list first.

The problem is a grace note that is inside a repeat appears outside of it.
 There seems to be four things that have to happen at once:

   1. Multi staff (Piano Staff in my case).
   2. Repeat
   3. First note of one hand is a grace note
   4. The other hand does not have a grace note.

Here is the shortest source file I could construct that illustrates the
problem.  If I should be doing something differently, please tell me.

\version "2.18.2"

upper = \relative c' {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| c4 c c c

|

}

}

lower = \relative c {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| \acciaccatura d8 c4 c c c

|

}

}

\score {

\new PianoStaff <<

\new Staff {

\clef treble

\upper

}

\new Staff {

\clef bass

\lower

}

>>

}

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Re: Possible bug: grace note/piano staff/repeat

[Marc Hohl]

Am 22.04.2014 20:15, schrieb Knute Snortum:

I may have found a bug in LilyPond 2.18.2 but since I'm new to
typesetting I want to run it past the list first.


I think this is

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=34

the probably oldest and most annoying bug in the pond ;-)

HTH,

Marc


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Re: Possible bug: grace note/piano staff/repeat

[Robert Schmaus]

Hi Knute,

that's an old lilypond issue - actually, this came up already just a 
couple of days ago, and someone described it in that thread as the "most 
persistent lilypond bug".
So anyway, the way to fix this is simple: put (empty) grace notes in 
*all* voices at the same spot your "real" grace note is.


In your example:


\version "2.18.2"

upper = \relative c' {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| \acciaccatura s8 c4 c c c

|

}

}

lower = \relative c {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| \acciaccatura d8 c4 c c c

|

}

}

\score {

\new PianoStaff <<

\new Staff {

\clef treble

\upper

}

\new Staff {

\clef bass

\lower

}

>>

}


Best,
Robert



Am 22/04/14 20:15, schrieb Knute Snortum:

I may have found a bug in LilyPond 2.18.2 but since I'm new to
typesetting I want to run it past the list first.

The problem is a grace note that is inside a repeat appears outside of
it.  There seems to be four things that have to happen at once:

 1. Multi staff (Piano Staff in my case).
 2. Repeat
 3. First note of one hand is a grace note
 4. The other hand does not have a grace note.

Here is the shortest source file I could construct that illustrates the
problem.  If I should be doing something differently, please tell me.

\version "2.18.2"

upper = \relative c' {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| c4 c c c

|

}

}

lower = \relative c {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| \acciaccatura d8 c4 c c c

|

}

}

\score {

\new PianoStaff <<

\new Staff {

\clef treble

\upper

}

\new Staff {

\clef bass

\lower

}

 >>

}


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Re: Possible bug: grace note/piano staff/repeat

[Urs Liska]

Am 22.04.2014 20:25, schrieb Robert Schmaus:

Hi Knute,

that's an old lilypond issue - actually, this came up already just a
couple of days ago, and someone described it in that thread as the "most
persistent lilypond bug".
So anyway, the way to fix this is simple: put (empty) grace notes in
*all* voices at the same spot your "real" grace note is.

In your example:


This is what I wanted to suggest too, but this will leave an ugly slur 
fragment (see attached image) in the upper voice.

Clicking on that (point-and-click) will lead to

startAcciaccaturaMusic

in grace-init.ly

Anyone know how to remove this too?

Urs




\version "2.18.2"

upper = \relative c' {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| \acciaccatura s8 c4 c c c

|

}

}

lower = \relative c {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| \acciaccatura d8 c4 c c c

|

}

}

\score {

\new PianoStaff <<

\new Staff {

\clef treble

\upper

}

\new Staff {

\clef bass

\lower

}

 >>

}


Best,
Robert



Am 22/04/14 20:15, schrieb Knute Snortum:

I may have found a bug in LilyPond 2.18.2 but since I'm new to
typesetting I want to run it past the list first.

The problem is a grace note that is inside a repeat appears outside of
it.  There seems to be four things that have to happen at once:

 1. Multi staff (Piano Staff in my case).
 2. Repeat
 3. First note of one hand is a grace note
 4. The other hand does not have a grace note.

Here is the shortest source file I could construct that illustrates the
problem.  If I should be doing something differently, please tell me.

\version "2.18.2"

upper = \relative c' {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| c4 c c c

|

}

}

lower = \relative c {

| c c c c

\repeat volta 2 {

| \acciaccatura d8 c4 c c c

|

}

}

\score {

\new PianoStaff <<

\new Staff {

\clef treble

\upper

}

\new Staff {

\clef bass

\lower

}

 >>

}


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Re: Possible bug: grace note/piano staff/repeat

[Paul Morris]

Ah, the old and notorious "grace synchronization" bug:
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=34

The workaround is to insert a corresponding spacer in the other part. In
your example, that would look like this:

  \acciaccatura s8 c4 c c c

HTH,
-Paul



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Re: Possible bug: grace note/piano staff/repeat

[Paul Morris]

Urs Liska wrote
> This is what I wanted to suggest too, but this will leave an ugly slur 
> fragment (see attached image) in the upper voice.
> Clicking on that (point-and-click) will lead to
> 
> startAcciaccaturaMusic
> 
> in grace-init.ly
> 
> Anyone know how to remove this too?

Good point!  It looks like if you just use \grace instead of \acciaccatura
that does the trick:

\grace s8 c4 c c c

-Paul




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Re: Possible bug: grace note/piano staff/repeat

[Urs Liska]

Am 22.04.2014 20:38, schrieb Paul Morris:

Urs Liska wrote

This is what I wanted to suggest too, but this will leave an ugly slur
fragment (see attached image) in the upper voice.
Clicking on that (point-and-click) will lead to

startAcciaccaturaMusic

in grace-init.ly

Anyone know how to remove this too?


Good point!  It looks like if you just use \grace instead of \acciaccatura
that does the trick:

 \grace s8 c4 c c c

-Paul




Indeed.

Thanks for pointing this out. Then it should be explicitly mentioned in 
the docs (althought that won't make everybody find the known-issues 
section in the first place ;-) )


https://codereview.appspot.com/90270044/

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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[holl...@hollandhopson.com]

The application bundle works fine for me on 10.9.2 running it from the disk 
image.

I notice the same behavior with this bundle and my regular installation: After 
the splash screen the application moves to the background. I have to click on 
the Frescobaldi icon in the dock to bring it to the front. Using 
[command]+[tab] to cycle through active applications doesn’t bring it to the 
front unless I’ve already clicked on the icon in the dock.

Thanks for your work on this, Davide!
Holland 

On Apr 22, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Davide Liessi  wrote:

> Dear Frescobaldi&LilyPond&Mac users,
> as some of you may know, I'm trying to make Frescobaldi more
> Mac-friendly, by packaging it as a native application bundle inside a
> standard DMG disk image.
> 
> I would be very grateful if you could test the experimental
> application bundle I prepared and report the results and your version
> of Mac OS X, especially if you are running 10.7 (Lion) or higher. [1]
> 
> You can find a DMG disk image containing the application bundle at
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/o4o65629jv9ytw4/Frescobaldi-2.0.16-dev-20140421.dmg
> 
> The test should be harmless: the only collateral effect is that any
> change you'll make to the settings inside this application bundle will
> be picked up by your usual installation of Frescobaldi, since they'll
> share the same preferences file. [2]
> 
> Anyway, please be aware that this application bundle is considered
> experimental and is built from a development version of Frescobaldi,
> so it isn't suitable for everyday use: after the tests I advise you to
> delete the application bundle and wait for the next release. [3]
> 
> Best wishes.
> Davide


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Re: Mac testers needed for Frescobaldi!

[Davide Liessi]

2014-04-22 13:59 GMT+02:00 flup2 :
> One little note (not related to this particular bundle): when checking the
> option "Show splashscreen", Frescobaldi doesn't show its window; I have to
> click on the Frescobaldi icon in the dock. I don't need to do that when the
> splashscreen doesn't show.

Forgot to ask: does this happen both on 10.7 and on 10.9 or only on one of them?

Davide

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Re: Possible bug: grace note/piano staff/repeat

[Knute Snortum]

Wow, i ran into a good one my first try!  Thanks for the replies.  Yes, can
see a little bit of the slur from the silent grace note, but it's a work
around.


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On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:

> Am 22.04.2014 20:38, schrieb Paul Morris:
>
>  Urs Liska wrote
>>
>>> This is what I wanted to suggest too, but this will leave an ugly slur
>>> fragment (see attached image) in the upper voice.
>>> Clicking on that (point-and-click) will lead to
>>>
>>> startAcciaccaturaMusic
>>>
>>> in grace-init.ly
>>>
>>> Anyone know how to remove this too?
>>>
>>
>> Good point!  It looks like if you just use \grace instead of \acciaccatura
>> that does the trick:
>>
>>  \grace s8 c4 c c c
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>>
>>
> Indeed.
>
> Thanks for pointing this out. Then it should be explicitly mentioned in
> the docs (althought that won't make everybody find the known-issues section
> in the first place ;-) )
>
> https://codereview.appspot.com/90270044/
>
> Urs
>
>
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