Re: pedal markings in dynamic context

2013-07-17 Thread Eluze
Simon Bailey-5 wrote
> On Tuesday, 16 July 2013 at 15:25, Phil Holmes wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: pedal markings in dynamic context
>>  
>>  
>> > see attached pdf. bar 3 especially is not really very pretty…
>>  
>> Not sure what's not pretty? The thing I would adjust is the alignment of  
>> pedal on and off marks, but otherwise it looks OK to me?
> 
> the sustainOn on beat 1 in bar 3 is far too far away from the music. the
> sustainOn on beat 3 and sustainOff on beat 4 should be on the same line
> (read: i would like). adjusting the alignment of the marks for each and
> every mark is extremely tedious and involves a lot of trial and error –
> especially in an 18-page piece with about 470 pedalling instructions,
> which is what i'm currently working on…
> 
> for whatever reason, the vertical alignment in bar 1 looks good, albeit
> too far away from the staff. bar 2 is agreeable as well, but four
> different levels of pedal markings in bar 3 is not pretty. in my highly
> subjective opinion. :) which is the reason i wanted to use a Dynamics
> context for the pedalling and simply raise the context line to a suitable
> level and have some pedalling instructions drop out of the line…  
> 
> looks like it's the hard way for now though… :)  

choosing less narrow spacing so that the pedal mark doesn't collide with the
previous note seems to help:

\new Voice {
  \override Score.SpacingSpanner #'base-shortest-duration = #(ly:make-moment
16) \pedals 
}

Eluze



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Re: Henle piano template

2013-07-17 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Kieren,

2013/7/16 Kieren MacMillan :
> Hello all,
>
> I'm getting close with my Henle piano stylesheet(s) — see attached.
> Once this is ready, I'm going to document it and put it up on the Lilyblog.

Excellent!  I'm looking forward to it!
Janek

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Re: LSR preview broken?

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/7/16 Thomas Morley :
> 2013/7/16 Werner LEMBERG :
>>
>>> Your snippet compiles fine with 2.14.2 (tested).
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>> There are some problems in the LSR concerning cropped images.
>>
>> Hmm, I don't think this affects my snippet.
>>
>> Maybe simply approving it solves the issue :-)
>
> No. Already tested.
>
>>
>>
>> Werner
>
> -Harm

Preview works again, at least for your snippet.
The image shows a far to wide blank space on top, though, that's a
known problem, already reported to Seba ...

Approved as
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=883


Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: LSR preview broken?

2013-07-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Approved as
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=883

Thanks!


   Werner

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PDF portfolio of 2.17.22 documentation

2013-07-17 Thread Nick Payne
Can be downloaded from 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7cnqx22ob1iq3n5/Lilydoc-2.17.22.pdf.


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Re: Henle piano template

2013-07-17 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley  writes:

> below my own approach.
> I defined two formatters for BarNumber,
> 1) using my version of \ellipse (though, it's nearly the same as David's).
> 2) using \oval

So we are missing markup commands.  I am not really convinced that
factoring line-thickness leads to desirable results, but it's what "box"
does too.

What do you think about proposing a patch?  Assuming that git-cl has not
been nuked by Google as well.

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Re: Calculate BarLine 'kern to fit with a given stencil-x-extent

2013-07-17 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Harm,

Here's a new function that's a little better than the previous one.

\version "2.17.21"

%% A markup-command for better viewing and the possibility
%% to read out some values
#(define-markup-command (rectangle layout props x) (number?)
" returns a rectangle "
   (let ((osc (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'output-scale))
 (pt (ly:output-def-lookup layout 'pt)))

;; (display "\n\t'output-scale \t")(write osc)
;; (display "\n\tpt from layout \t")(write pt)
;; (display "\n\t(* osc pt) \t")(write (* osc pt))
;; (newline)

   (interpret-markup layout props
 (markup #:stencil (make-filled-box-stencil  `(0 . ,x) '(0 . 3))

\paper {
indent = 30
%% #(display "\n\tpt from within \\paper \t")
%% #(write pt)
}

\layout {
% Better viewing:
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'color = #red
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'layer = #10
\override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -2.5)
}


%% Test here with different values:

#(define staff-size 16)



#(set-global-staff-size staff-size)

%%% here's the function :

#(define (adjust-kern x-lngth)
  (*(* 19.33 (- 1.004 (exp (* -0.03604 staff-size x-lngth))

show =
#(define-music-function (parser location x-length)(number?)
"
 returns some test-music, with the rectangle and tweaked BarLine.kern
"
#{
\set Staff.instrumentName =
\markup \fontsize #-1 \center-column {
"stencil/kern-length?"
#(number->string x-length)
}

R1
\mark \markup
\rectangle #x-length
\override Staff.BarLine.kern = #(adjust-kern x-length)
\bar "||"
R1
#})

\header {
title = "Adjust BarLine 'kern to stencil-extent"
subtitle = #(format #f "Used global-staff-size: ~a" staff-size)
subsubtitle = \markup \vspace #2
}

\show #1
\show #2
\show #10
\show #20

%%%

See herewith the comparaison between the measured figures (blue curve) and
the calculated ones (orange curve).
I'm still very curious about what you'll do with it...
Cheers,
Pierre
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Re: Calculate BarLine 'kern to fit with a given stencil-x-extent

2013-07-17 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2013/7/17 Pierre Perol-Schneider 

>
> See herewith the comparaison between the measured figures (blue curve) and
> the calculated ones (orange curve).
>
>
I've changed some titles and added the old function (yellow).
Pierre
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Re: Calculate BarLine 'kern to fit with a given stencil-x-extent

2013-07-17 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
some improvement here :

%%%
#(define (adjust-kern x-lngth)
  (*(* 19.50 (- 1.01 (exp (* -0.035 staff-size x-lngth))

%%%

Pierre
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Re: Henle piano template

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/7/17 David Kastrup :
> Thomas Morley  writes:
>
>> below my own approach.
>> I defined two formatters for BarNumber,
>> 1) using my version of \ellipse (though, it's nearly the same as David's).
>> 2) using \oval
>
> So we are missing markup commands.  I am not really convinced that
> factoring line-thickness leads to desirable results, but it's what "box"
> does too.
>
> What do you think about proposing a patch?

Ok. Will do.

> Assuming that git-cl has not
> been nuked by Google as well.

At least, I'll try.

-Harm

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Re: Calculate BarLine 'kern to fit with a given stencil-x-extent

2013-07-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/7/17 Pierre Perol-Schneider :
> some improvement here :
>
> %%%
> #(define (adjust-kern x-lngth)
>   (*(* 19.50 (- 1.01 (exp (* -0.035 staff-size x-lngth))
>
> %%%
>
> Pierre
>

Hi Pierre,

thanks a lot for all your work you've put on this!!!
Though, I need a break from this topic.
I'll start my vacations next week. :))
Afterwards I'll return to this.


Hope you enjoy yours,
  Harm

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Re: Uneven note spacing

2013-07-17 Thread Eluze
Andrew Bernard wrote
> Greetings List,
> 
> In the following example from a piece I am setting, the composer wants 
> the notes in the tuplets exactly evenly spaced, but I see considerable 
> unevenness here. There are two questions. First, is this really the 
> classical and canonical way to space tuplet notes when in the cross 
> staff situation here? Secondly, even if it is, how can I make them 
> evenly spaced out?
> 
> If I use proportional notation, the only way to spread them out evenly 
> is to use such a large value that the score becomes ridiculously widely 
> spaced.
> 
> The dodecaphonic accidental style is required in this piece.

hi Andrew

first I think it will often look a little strange if you have stems going up
and down because of the attachment of the stems to the left or right of the
note head - even if the note heads are evenly spaced the stems will look
uneven.

in *NR 4.5.5 Proportional notation* there is a few proposals how to define
proportional settings.

and with \newSpacingSection it is alway possible to redefine or revert these
settings

I have set

\layout {
  \context {
\Score
proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/32)
\override SpacingSpanner.uniform-stretching = ##t
\override SpacingSpanner.strict-note-spacing = ##t
\accidentalStyle dodecaphonic
  }
}

and this looks quite reasonable to me.
hth
Eluze




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stylesheets, defaults, and other in-Pond-erables

2013-07-17 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hello all,

I'm going full-bore on getting some of my scores re-engraved in the next month 
or so. (They tend to be cram-engraved under pressure for the premiere, and then 
never returned to due to the next commission on the docket…)

As a result, I'm hoping to break out a series of stylesheets (or stylesheet 
sets):
instrument (e.g., violin) solo
piano solo
piano + vocal
piano + solo instrument
organ solo
instrumental ensemble (e.g., piano quartet)
chorus a cappella
orchestra
orchestra + chorus

I would love for the fruits of my labour to benefit the Lilypond community, in 
the sense that some of the overrides might become defaults, and the other files 
might be presented as a package of easily-included templates/files distributed 
with (or nearby) the application/binary/docs.

To that end, I'm hoping to get suggestions about particular scores in the above 
categories which the Lilypond community would consider benchmarks.
We used to claim to use Barenreiter as the benchmark, so I suppose that might 
be the place to start?
Any references would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kieren.
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Re: stylesheets, defaults, and other in-Pond-erables

2013-07-17 Thread David Rogers
Kieren MacMillan  writes:

> Hello all,
>
> I'm going full-bore on getting some of my scores re-engraved in the
> next month or so. (They tend to be cram-engraved under pressure for
> the premiere, and then never returned to due to the next commission on
> the docket…)
>
> As a result, I'm hoping to break out a series of stylesheets (or
> stylesheet sets):
> instrument (e.g., violin) solo
> piano solo
> piano + vocal
> piano + solo instrument
> organ solo
> instrumental ensemble (e.g., piano quartet)
> chorus a cappella
> orchestra
> orchestra + chorus
>
> I would love for the fruits of my labour to benefit the Lilypond
> community, in the sense that some of the overrides might become
> defaults, and the other files might be presented as a package of
> easily-included templates/files distributed with (or nearby) the
> application/binary/docs.
>
> To that end, I'm hoping to get suggestions about particular scores in
> the above categories which the Lilypond community would consider
> benchmarks.  We used to claim to use Barenreiter as the benchmark, so
> I suppose that might be the place to start?  Any references would be
> greatly appreciated.


What kinds of things would it be helpful to make sure such benchmark
scores include? Is this simply a call for "the best-looking scores in
existence, for each category", or is there more to it than that? (For
example, is it helpful to have music that's difficult for Lilypond to
set, or would that just be a distraction?)

-- 
David R

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