Re: Running Lilypond from Fraise
Hello, Don't know Fraise, but if that may help : you menu entry should run: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond be that textually placed there or in shell script of yours. JM Le 27 juin 2013 à 11:56:03, "Alexander Deubelbeiss" a écrit : >> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 21:44:38 +0200 >> From: Philippe de Rochambeau >> To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" >> Subject: Running Lilypond from Fraise >> Message-ID: <5c5b1de6-6212-4321-88bb-92b368b04...@free.fr> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Hello, >> >> could someone please explain how to run Lilypond from Fraise? >> > > In my experience Lilypond does not interact usefully with fruit; so > presumably you mean some sort of software product? > > After this concisely-phrased request of yours, it's entirely possible that > you remain the only reader on this list who knows what it is you're talking > about. Please elaborate a little on what you're trying to achieve, maybe > include a link to user documentation if any is freely available; and then > someone might be able to help you figure out the details. As it is I think > you'd need to be lucky to get any helpful response. > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Jacques Menu Ch. de la Pierre 12 1023 Crissier mailto:jacques.m...@tvtmail.ch ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:8 marking on piano piece
Phil, In addition to the comments from Kieren and David, I should point out that the "8" sign is ambiguous. Some composers use it to add the lower octave (as here), others to play an octave lower (Debussy's Cathedrale Engloutie is an example), and you have to work out which one is meant, usually on musical grounds or parallel passages. If you look at the two settings of "hope nor love" in this song, you'll see that RVW (or the publisher) has used both notations, which makes it easy to work out what's needed. But I'm a bit worried that you're setting the Songs of Travel at all. RVW died in 1958 and is still in copyright, at least in the UK (I don't know where you are). At any normal rate, the time taken to typeset it worth far more than buying a copy from a shop! Of course, a programmer is someone who spends a week programming something to save himself 5 minutes. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Re:8 marking on piano piece
From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Cc: Phil Holmes Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 9:42 AM Subject: Re:8 marking on piano piece Phil, In addition to the comments from Kieren and David, I should point out that the "8" sign is ambiguous. Some composers use it to add the lower octave (as here), others to play an octave lower (Debussy's Cathedrale Engloutie is an example), and you have to work out which one is meant, usually on musical grounds or parallel passages. If you look at the two settings of "hope nor love" in this song, you'll see that RVW (or the publisher) has used both notations, which makes it easy to work out what's needed. Thanks. But I'm a bit worried that you're setting the Songs of Travel at all. RVW died in 1958 and is still in copyright, at least in the UK (I don't know where you are). At any normal rate, the time taken to typeset it worth far more than buying a copy from a shop! Of course, a programmer is someone who spends a week programming something to save himself 5 minutes. I'm doing it for 2 reasons, both primarily for my own use. Firstly as a type-setting exercise, since some of the Song of Travel are interesting to re-set. Secondly, I may sing them for my college recital and so I create computerised versions so I can learn the notes. That said, I would use these versions for the accompanist, but that's allowed for in the copyright regulations. I have uploaded one to IMSLP, but it's clear there that this is not copyright free in the EU, although it is in Canada, where it's hosted. So I believe everything I've done so far is within the allowable regulations. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Accidental placement in voiceTwo vs. another staff
> the accidental is repeated because we are in a new measure and the natural > sign avoids the accidental of the top voice. > > when the notes are tied the accidental is not repeated but it seems like > LilyPond still reserves some space for it. > > I tried to set the Accidental stencil to false but this had no effect. > > anybody else? is this related to issue > 3106 Ah, ok, I didn't do enough to reduce my example. If it's a known issue, that's fine with me. Thanks for clarifying! hjh ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Accidental placement in voiceTwo vs. another staff
James Harkins-2 wrote
> Ah, ok, I didn't do enough to reduce my example.
… and this led to your conclusions above
a manual workaround to reposition the natural sign more correctly is
\once {
\override Accidental.font-size = #-20
\override Accidental.Y-offset = #1
}
in the upper voice.
Eluze
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Barline after time signature
Greetings List, The contemporary piece I am setting uses barlines right after every change of time signature, before any notes. I am unable to see how to do this. If I manually place a barline in this location lilypond ignores the instruction. Can this be done? Using version 2.17.20. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Barline after time signature
2013/6/28 Andrew Bernard : > The contemporary piece I am setting uses barlines right after every change > of time signature, before any notes. I am unable to see how to do this. If I > manually place a barline in this location lilypond ignores the instruction. > Can this be done? I remember that someone (most probably Harm or David N) wrote code doing this (scheme engraver?) about a year ago. I think Urs Liska was involved in the discussion. You should be able to find this in the archives. hth, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Barline after time signature
Am 28.06.2013 15:10, schrieb Janek Warchoł: 2013/6/28 Andrew Bernard : The contemporary piece I am setting uses barlines right after every change of time signature, before any notes. I am unable to see how to do this. If I manually place a barline in this location lilypond ignores the instruction. Can this be done? I remember that someone (most probably Harm or David N) wrote code doing this (scheme engraver?) about a year ago. I think Urs Liska was involved in the discussion. You should be able to find this in the archives. hth, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Nope, what they did for me was a) printing double barlines before key signatures (but in the usual place before the key signature) and not printing a time signature when it's the same as currently in effect. Unfortunately both won't help you. What I'd try first is _moving_ the time signature with its x-offset. But I don't know if that will lead anywhere. Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 8 marking on piano piece
On 28 Jun 2013, at 10:42, Peter Toye wrote: > But I'm a bit worried that you're setting the Songs of Travel at all. RVW > died in 1958 and is still in copyright, at least in the UK (I don't know > where you are). It varies: the US did not extend this rule retroactively. Hans ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Barline after time signature
2013/6/28 Andrew Bernard
>
> The contemporary piece I am setting uses barlines right after every change
> of time signature, before any notes. I am unable to see how to do this. If
> I manually place a barline in this location lilypond ignores the
> instruction. Can this be done?
>
>
Hight Andrew,
You can use this snippet :
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-printing-a-repeat-sign-at-the-beginning-of-a-piece
for ex:
\version "2.17.20"
\defineBarLine "o|" #'("" "|" "")
\relative c'' {
\once \override Score.BreakAlignment.break-align-orders =
#(make-vector 3 '(instrument-name
left-edge
ambitus
breathing-sign
clef
key-signature
time-signature
staff-bar
custos))
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature.space-alist =
#'((first-note . (fixed-space . 2.0))
(right-edge . (extra-space . 0.5))
(staff-bar . (extra-space . 1))) \bar "o|"
c c c c
}
Cheers,
Pierre
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Re: Barline after time signature
>
> What I'd try first is _moving_ the time signature with its x-offset. But
> I don't know if that will lead anywhere.
>
> Urs
The part of your question involving the shift of the time signature
might be solved by something like this:
\relative c' { c d e f
\override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(
make-vector 3 '(
time-signature
span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
) )
\time 3/4 c d e
\time 4/4 c d e f
}
Cheers,
Joram
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Re: Subtracting one from the measure number
"Phil Holmes" writes:
> "David Kastrup" wrote:
>
>
>> "Phil Holmes" writes:
>>
>>> I've got a piece of music that has a dotted bar and a (hidden) time
>>> signature change at a place where the bar number is not incremented.
>>> I know I could explicitly set the bar number to the new correct number
>>> (calculated number minus one) but is there a way of subtracting one
>>> from the existing bar number?
>>
>> Probably less than pretty, but here you go:
>
>>{ \repeat unfold 40 c4
>> \applyContext #(lambda (c)
>> (set! (ly:context-property
>> (ly:context-find c 'Timing)
>> 'currentBarNumber)
>>(1- (ly:context-property c 'currentBarNumber
>> \repeat unfold 40 c4
>> }
>
>
> Thanks David. Took me a while to work out why it was taking 4 off my
> measure numbers, but then I realised it must be done once per score,
> not once per staff. (I'm autogenerating the lilypond code and so it
> was putting the decrement code into each staff's output - I've fixed
> this, as you can see).
Well, judging from your picture, you have the magic of changing the
meter silently pat. So instead of making a real mess in order to get
two bars of \time 4/4 count as one, why don't you just make a single bar
of \compoundTime #'((4 4) (4 4)) instead and manually place the \bar ";"
(or what it was) in the middle? Because frankly: having two bar numbers
"4" right after another is not looking good to me, either. You might
need to look at the beaming exceptions to use, but that looks saner to
me than rewinding the bar counter.
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Re: Subtracting one from the measure number
- Original Message -
From: "David Kastrup"
To: "Phil Holmes"
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Subtracting one from the measure number
"Phil Holmes" writes:
"David Kastrup" wrote:
"Phil Holmes" writes:
I've got a piece of music that has a dotted bar and a (hidden) time
signature change at a place where the bar number is not incremented.
I know I could explicitly set the bar number to the new correct number
(calculated number minus one) but is there a way of subtracting one
from the existing bar number?
Probably less than pretty, but here you go:
{ \repeat unfold 40 c4
\applyContext #(lambda (c)
(set! (ly:context-property
(ly:context-find c 'Timing)
'currentBarNumber)
(1- (ly:context-property c 'currentBarNumber
\repeat unfold 40 c4
}
Thanks David. Took me a while to work out why it was taking 4 off my
measure numbers, but then I realised it must be done once per score,
not once per staff. (I'm autogenerating the lilypond code and so it
was putting the decrement code into each staff's output - I've fixed
this, as you can see).
Well, judging from your picture, you have the magic of changing the
meter silently pat. So instead of making a real mess in order to get
two bars of \time 4/4 count as one, why don't you just make a single bar
of \compoundTime #'((4 4) (4 4)) instead and manually place the \bar ";"
(or what it was) in the middle? Because frankly: having two bar numbers
"4" right after another is not looking good to me, either. You might
need to look at the beaming exceptions to use, but that looks saner to
me than rewinding the bar counter.
--
David Kastrup
My real piece of music doesn't have bar numbers every bar, and the place
where I want to not count a bar number is a change from 4/4 time to 3/4
time, so in the real case, subtracting one from the bar number looks
perfectly good and reproduces the original piece of music exactly.
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Re: Subtracting one from the measure number
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - >> >> Well, judging from your picture, you have the magic of changing the >> meter silently pat. So instead of making a real mess in order to get >> two bars of \time 4/4 count as one, why don't you just make a single bar >> of \compoundTime #'((4 4) (4 4)) instead and manually place the \bar ";" >> (or what it was) in the middle? Because frankly: having two bar numbers >> "4" right after another is not looking good to me, either. You might >> need to look at the beaming exceptions to use, but that looks saner to >> me than rewinding the bar counter. > > My real piece of music doesn't have bar numbers every bar, and the > place where I want to not count a bar number is a change from 4/4 time > to 3/4 time, so in the real case, subtracting one from the bar number > looks perfectly good and reproduces the original piece of music > exactly. Well, \compoundTime #'((4 4) (3 4)) for that siamese twin bar should likely work as well. I'm just throwing this out as an option that looks a bit more straightforward from the LilyPond input side. As opposed to a real bar, it should be a bit more robust against strange things happening when LilyPond chooses its line break just there. Of course, with this approach accidentals carry over from one half of the bar to the next. That may or may not be desirable. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Subtracting one from the measure number
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Subtracting one from the measure number "Phil Holmes" writes: - Original Message - Well, judging from your picture, you have the magic of changing the meter silently pat. So instead of making a real mess in order to get two bars of \time 4/4 count as one, why don't you just make a single bar of \compoundTime #'((4 4) (4 4)) instead and manually place the \bar ";" (or what it was) in the middle? Because frankly: having two bar numbers "4" right after another is not looking good to me, either. You might need to look at the beaming exceptions to use, but that looks saner to me than rewinding the bar counter. My real piece of music doesn't have bar numbers every bar, and the place where I want to not count a bar number is a change from 4/4 time to 3/4 time, so in the real case, subtracting one from the bar number looks perfectly good and reproduces the original piece of music exactly. Well, \compoundTime #'((4 4) (3 4)) for that siamese twin bar should likely work as well. I'm just throwing this out as an option that looks a bit more straightforward from the LilyPond input side. As opposed to a real bar, it should be a bit more robust against strange things happening when LilyPond chooses its line break just there. Of course, with this approach accidentals carry over from one half of the bar to the next. That may or may not be desirable. -- David Kastrup The other complicating factor is that I do 99.9% of my music layout in the shareware program Noteworthy composer, and so it helps if it's relatively simple to convert something from that syntax to lilypond. In this case, I've set it up so that inserting a hidden bar line in Noteworthy causes your code to kick in and "uncount" the measure number increment. I fancy that trying to convince Noteworthy to handle compound time might be more problematic -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Re:8 marking on piano piece
Phil Holmes wrote: > Secondly, I may sing them for my college recital and so I create > computerised versions so I can learn the notes. That said, I would use > these versions for the accompanist, but that's allowed for in the copyright > regulations. Why do you think so? As a frequent choral accompanist, I can tell you there are a number of choral competitions that require proof of legal ownership for accompanist material. You may be right -- I'm just curious to know if you have a reference. -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Ancient History
I have a score I did some time in the previous century in Passport Rhapsody. Now, I need to make some changes. I cannot find out a way to read these files. Is anyone here aware of any path to get from Rhapsody to anything that can be eventually turned into Lilypond, short of retyping it from the printed score? -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ancient History
Tim Roberts writes: > I have a score I did some time in the previous century in Passport > Rhapsody. Now, I need to make some changes. I cannot find out a way to > read these files. Is anyone here aware of any path to get from > Rhapsody to anything that can be eventually turned into Lilypond, > short of retyping it from the printed score? According to http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html>, Finale can import from Rhapsody. Maybe that's a usable itinery for you. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ancient History
On 2013-06-28 21:45, David Kastrup wrote: Tim Roberts writes: I have a score I did some time in the previous century in Passport Rhapsody. Now, I need to make some changes. I cannot find out a way to read these files. Is anyone here aware of any path to get from Rhapsody to anything that can be eventually turned into Lilypond, short of retyping it from the printed score? According to http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-4.html>, Finale can import from Rhapsody. Maybe that's a usable itinery for you. From MakeMusics web site "Please note that support for Encore, Rhapsody, SCORE, MIDI Scan, and SmartScore .fin file types was removed in Finale 2010." http://makemusic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/136/kw/Rhapsody So maybe someone with Finale 2007 may help the OP. // Anders -- English isn't my first language. So any error or strangeness is due to the translation. Please correct my English so that I may become better. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Running Lilypond from Fraise
Jacques Menu writes: > Hello, > > Don't know Fraise, but if that may help : you menu entry should run: > > /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond > > be that textually placed there or in shell script of yours. I neglected this point in my hasty instructions; when you use the terminal command lilypond MyNewPiece.ly , it probably should be /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond MyNewPiece.ly instead, so that the system can find what you mean by lilypond. -- David R ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ancient History
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