Templates combined?

2013-05-03 Thread Nandi
Hello everyone, I'm trying to do a SATB vocal score with a harp accompaniment,
and I'd like to  combine the following two templates: "Single staff template
with notes, lyrics, chords and frets" + "Vocal ensemble template", so that I can
enter more stanzas, one after the other, below each other, for all staffs, and
have the harp chords only above the soprano staff. I just couldn't figure out
how to  combine the pieces. (Later I may add some piano accompaniments, too,
so if it can also be incorporated in the template, that would be great.)
Thanks for any help: Nandi


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Re: Fwd: [grenouille] "lilynet"-Urgent Confirm Registration

2013-05-03 Thread Federico Bruni
2013/5/3 SoundsFromSound 

> Hi,
>
> This appears to be a known scam of sorts.
>
> http://www.hoax-slayer.com/domain-name-application-scam.shtml
> (this is your exact scam)
>
> http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=58331
> (related)
>
> Good luck,
>

Yes, I've seen many of these scam
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Re: Templates combined?

2013-05-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am Freitag, den 03.05.2013, 06:56 + schrieb Nandi:
> Hello everyone, I'm trying to do a SATB vocal score with a harp accompaniment,
> and I'd like to  combine the following two templates: "Single staff template
> with notes, lyrics, chords and frets" + "Vocal ensemble template", so that I 
> can
> enter more stanzas, one after the other, below each other, for all staffs, and
> have the harp chords only above the soprano staff. I just couldn't figure out
> how to  combine the pieces. (Later I may add some piano accompaniments, too,
> so if it can also be incorporated in the template, that would be great.)
> Thanks for any help: Nandi
> 

Templates basically are some raw text that you can use as-is or in
modified form.

If you want to combine two templates you should take the template that
comes closest to what you want (maybe that with most text already in it)
and insert text from the other one into it.

Probably you have to add the music definition variables somewhere in the
file and add the necessary staff definitions inside the \score block

As I don't quite see what you exactly want to achieve, I suggest you
- decide which of the templates is better as a start, 
- try to figure out which music variables you would need in addition,
- send this as an attachment and
- tell us exactly what is still missing

Best
Urs

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Re: Templates combined?

2013-05-03 Thread Nandi
Urs Liska  openlilylib.org> writes:

> As I don't quite see what you exactly want to achieve, I suggest you
> - decide which of the templates is better as a start, 
> - try to figure out which music variables you would need in addition,
> - send this as an attachment and
> - tell us exactly what is still missing
> 
> Best
> Urs
> 


This first template almost does what I want (SATB + piano + one stanza):

global = { \key d \major \time 4/4 }
sopranoMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 d2 a4
}
sopranoWords = \lyricmode {
  Words here
}
altoMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 a2 a4
}
altoWords = \sopranoWords
tenorMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 fis2 e4
}
tenorWords = \sopranoWords
bassMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "bass"
  r4 d2 cis4
}
bassWords = \sopranoWords

upper = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  \global
  r4 2 4
}
lower = \relative c, {
  \clef "bass"
  \global
  4 2 4
}

\score {
  <<
\new ChoirStaff <<
  \new Staff = "sopranos" <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Soprano"
\new Voice = "sopranos" { \global \sopranoMusic }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "sopranos" { \sopranoWords }
  \new Staff = "altos" <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto"
\new Voice = "altos" { \global \altoMusic }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "altos" { \altoWords }
  \new Staff = "tenors" <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor"
\new Voice = "tenors" { \global \tenorMusic }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "tenors" { \tenorWords }
  \new Staff = "basses" <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bass"
\new Voice = "basses" { \global \bassMusic }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "basses" { \bassWords }
>>

\new PianoStaff <<
  \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = #"Piano  "
  \new Staff = "upper" \upper
  \new Staff = "lower" \lower
>>
  >>
}


But I would need chords for the soprano part and more stanzas for each staff,
as this second template has it:

verseI = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"1."
  This is the first verse
}

verseII = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"2."
  This is the second verse.
}

verseIII = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"3."
  This is the third verse
}

verseIV = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"4."
  This is the fourth verse
}

theChords = \chordmode {
   c2 g4 c
}

staffMelody = \relative c' {
   \key c \major
   \clef treble
   c4 d8 e f4 g
   \bar "|."
}

\score {
  <<
\context ChordNames { \theChords }
\new Staff {
  \context Voice = "voiceMelody" { \staffMelody }
}
\new Lyrics = "lyricsI" {
  \lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseI
}
\new Lyrics = "lyricsII" {
  \lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseII
}
\new Lyrics = "lyricsIII" {
  \lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseIII
}
 \new Lyrics = "lyricsIV" {
  \lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseIV
}
  >>
}

I would like to combine these two,
but unfortunately I couldn't figure it out how.
Thanks for your help:
Nandi





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Re: Templates combined?

2013-05-03 Thread Urs Liska
OK, that's clear now.

attached you'll find a working file where I (partly) combined the
templates (you'll figure out the rest).

I removed the text variables from the first template (sopranoWords etc.)
Instead I entered the stanza variables (and the chords variable) from
the second template.

In the score block you have a ChoirStaff which includes all individual
staves (and 'contexts'):
There I inserted the Chordnames context above the soprano staff.
Below the soprano staff I inserted four Lyrics contexts with the
respective stanzas.
If you really need the four stanzas below each staff you can repeat that
for the other staves too.
Explanation:
"\new Lyrics" tells LilyPond to insert a line with lyrics at that
position (e.g. below the soprano staff).
"\lyricsto" tells LilyPond which music the text is aligned to

BTW: You don't need the empty lines I have inserted but they make the
code more readable.

HTH
Urs

Am Freitag, den 03.05.2013, 08:11 + schrieb Nandi:
> Urs Liska  openlilylib.org> writes:
> 
> > As I don't quite see what you exactly want to achieve, I suggest you
> > - decide which of the templates is better as a start, 
> > - try to figure out which music variables you would need in addition,
> > - send this as an attachment and
> > - tell us exactly what is still missing
> > 
> > Best
> > Urs
> > 
> 
> 
> This first template almost does what I want (SATB + piano + one stanza):
> 
> global = { \key d \major \time 4/4 }
> sopranoMusic = \relative c' {
>   \clef "treble"
>   r4 d2 a4
> }
> sopranoWords = \lyricmode {
>   Words here
> }
> altoMusic = \relative c' {
>   \clef "treble"
>   r4 a2 a4
> }
> altoWords = \sopranoWords
> tenorMusic = \relative c' {
>   \clef "treble"
>   r4 fis2 e4
> }
> tenorWords = \sopranoWords
> bassMusic = \relative c' {
>   \clef "bass"
>   r4 d2 cis4
> }
> bassWords = \sopranoWords
> 
> upper = \relative c' {
>   \clef "treble"
>   \global
>   r4 2 4
> }
> lower = \relative c, {
>   \clef "bass"
>   \global
>   4 2 4
> }
> 
> \score {
>   <<
> \new ChoirStaff <<
>   \new Staff = "sopranos" <<
> \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Soprano"
> \new Voice = "sopranos" { \global \sopranoMusic }
>   >>
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "sopranos" { \sopranoWords }
>   \new Staff = "altos" <<
> \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto"
> \new Voice = "altos" { \global \altoMusic }
>   >>
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "altos" { \altoWords }
>   \new Staff = "tenors" <<
> \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor"
> \new Voice = "tenors" { \global \tenorMusic }
>   >>
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "tenors" { \tenorWords }
>   \new Staff = "basses" <<
> \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bass"
> \new Voice = "basses" { \global \bassMusic }
>   >>
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "basses" { \bassWords }
> >>
> 
> \new PianoStaff <<
>   \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = #"Piano  "
>   \new Staff = "upper" \upper
>   \new Staff = "lower" \lower
> >>
>   >>
> }
> 
> 
> But I would need chords for the soprano part and more stanzas for each staff,
> as this second template has it:
> 
> verseI = \lyricmode {
>   \set stanza = #"1."
>   This is the first verse
> }
> 
> verseII = \lyricmode {
>   \set stanza = #"2."
>   This is the second verse.
> }
> 
> verseIII = \lyricmode {
>   \set stanza = #"3."
>   This is the third verse
> }
> 
> verseIV = \lyricmode {
>   \set stanza = #"4."
>   This is the fourth verse
> }
> 
> theChords = \chordmode {
>c2 g4 c
> }
> 
> staffMelody = \relative c' {
>\key c \major
>\clef treble
>c4 d8 e f4 g
>\bar "|."
> }
> 
> \score {
>   <<
> \context ChordNames { \theChords }
> \new Staff {
>   \context Voice = "voiceMelody" { \staffMelody }
> }
> \new Lyrics = "lyricsI" {
>   \lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseI
> }
> \new Lyrics = "lyricsII" {
>   \lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseII
> }
> \new Lyrics = "lyricsIII" {
>   \lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseIII
> }
>  \new Lyrics = "lyricsIV" {
>   \lyricsto "voiceMelody" \verseIV
> }
>   >>
> }
> 
> I would like to combine these two,
> but unfortunately I couldn't figure it out how.
> Thanks for your help:
> Nandi
> 
> 
> 
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global = { \key d \major \time 4/4 }
sopranoMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 d2 a4
}

altoMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 a2 a4
}

tenorMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 fis2 e4
}

bassMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "bass"
  r4 d2 cis4
}


upper = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  \global
  r4 2 4
}
lower = \relative c, {
  \clef "bass"
  \global
  4 2 4
}

verseI = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"1."
  first verse
}

verseII = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"2."
  second verse.
}

verseIII = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"3."
  thi

Re: Templates combined?

2013-05-03 Thread Nandi
Urs Liska  openlilylib.org> writes:

> attached you'll find a working file where I (partly) combined the
> templates (you'll figure out the rest).
> 

Unfortunately I can't unarchive the .bin file.
Can you send it in another format, or just
copy the .ly text here? Thanks very much!
Nandi


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Re: Templates combined?

2013-05-03 Thread Urs Liska
Hm, as far as I know (and my mail reader tells) I attached a plain .ly
file ...

But you'll find the content of that file at the end of this message (in
the hope mail transfer protocols and readers won't mess it up ...)

Urs

Am Freitag, den 03.05.2013, 09:20 + schrieb Nandi:
> Urs Liska  openlilylib.org> writes:
> 
> > attached you'll find a working file where I (partly) combined the
> > templates (you'll figure out the rest).
> > 
> 
> Unfortunately I can't unarchive the .bin file.
> Can you send it in another format, or just
> copy the .ly text here? Thanks very much!
> Nandi
> 
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global = { \key d \major \time 4/4 }
sopranoMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 d2 a4
}

altoMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 a2 a4
}

tenorMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  r4 fis2 e4
}

bassMusic = \relative c' {
  \clef "bass"
  r4 d2 cis4
}


upper = \relative c' {
  \clef "treble"
  \global
  r4 2 4
}
lower = \relative c, {
  \clef "bass"
  \global
  4 2 4
}

verseI = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"1."
  first verse
}

verseII = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"2."
  second verse.
}

verseIII = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"3."
  third verse
}

verseIV = \lyricmode {
  \set stanza = #"4."
  fourth verse
}

theChords = \chordmode {
   d2. a4
}

\score {
  <<
\new ChoirStaff <<
  
  \context ChordNames { \theChords }
  
  \new Staff = "sopranos" <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Soprano"
\new Voice = "sopranos" { \global \sopranoMusic }
  >>
  
  \new Lyrics = "lyricsI" {
\lyricsto "sopranos" \verseI
  }
  \new Lyrics = "lyricsII" {
\lyricsto "sopranos" \verseII
  }
  \new Lyrics = "lyricsIII" {
\lyricsto "sopranos" \verseIII
  }
  \new Lyrics = "lyricsIV" {
\lyricsto "sopranos" \verseIV
  }
  
  \new Staff = "altos" <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto"
\new Voice = "altos" { \global \altoMusic }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "altos" { \altoWords }
  \new Staff = "tenors" <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor"
\new Voice = "tenors" { \global \tenorMusic }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "tenors" { \tenorWords }
  \new Staff = "basses" <<
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bass"
\new Voice = "basses" { \global \bassMusic }
  >>
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "basses" { \bassWords }
>>

\new PianoStaff <<
  \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = #"Piano  "
  \new Staff = "upper" \upper
  \new Staff = "lower" \lower
>>
  >>
}


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Re: Templates combined?

2013-05-03 Thread Urs Liska
BTW: If you use Frescobaldi you can also achieve what you want with the
Score Setup Wizard.
You can also use that to learn about different ways to set up a score
(but keep in mind that there are always different ways to achieve things
in LilyPond).

Urs

Am Freitag, den 03.05.2013, 11:33 +0200 schrieb Urs Liska:
> Hm, as far as I know (and my mail reader tells) I attached a plain .ly
> file ...
> 
> But you'll find the content of that file at the end of this message (in
> the hope mail transfer protocols and readers won't mess it up ...)
> 
> Urs
> 
> Am Freitag, den 03.05.2013, 09:20 + schrieb Nandi:
> > Urs Liska  openlilylib.org> writes:
> > 
> > > attached you'll find a working file where I (partly) combined the
> > > templates (you'll figure out the rest).
> > > 
> > 
> > Unfortunately I can't unarchive the .bin file.
> > Can you send it in another format, or just
> > copy the .ly text here? Thanks very much!
> > Nandi
> > 
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> 
> global = { \key d \major \time 4/4 }
> sopranoMusic = \relative c' {
>   \clef "treble"
>   r4 d2 a4
> }
> 
> altoMusic = \relative c' {
>   \clef "treble"
>   r4 a2 a4
> }
> 
> tenorMusic = \relative c' {
>   \clef "treble"
>   r4 fis2 e4
> }
> 
> bassMusic = \relative c' {
>   \clef "bass"
>   r4 d2 cis4
> }
> 
> 
> upper = \relative c' {
>   \clef "treble"
>   \global
>   r4 2 4
> }
> lower = \relative c, {
>   \clef "bass"
>   \global
>   4 2 4
> }
> 
> verseI = \lyricmode {
>   \set stanza = #"1."
>   first verse
> }
> 
> verseII = \lyricmode {
>   \set stanza = #"2."
>   second verse.
> }
> 
> verseIII = \lyricmode {
>   \set stanza = #"3."
>   third verse
> }
> 
> verseIV = \lyricmode {
>   \set stanza = #"4."
>   fourth verse
> }
> 
> theChords = \chordmode {
>d2. a4
> }
> 
> \score {
>   <<
> \new ChoirStaff <<
>   
>   \context ChordNames { \theChords }
>   
>   \new Staff = "sopranos" <<
> \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Soprano"
> \new Voice = "sopranos" { \global \sopranoMusic }
>   >>
>   
>   \new Lyrics = "lyricsI" {
> \lyricsto "sopranos" \verseI
>   }
>   \new Lyrics = "lyricsII" {
> \lyricsto "sopranos" \verseII
>   }
>   \new Lyrics = "lyricsIII" {
> \lyricsto "sopranos" \verseIII
>   }
>   \new Lyrics = "lyricsIV" {
> \lyricsto "sopranos" \verseIV
>   }
>   
>   \new Staff = "altos" <<
> \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Alto"
> \new Voice = "altos" { \global \altoMusic }
>   >>
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "altos" { \altoWords }
>   \new Staff = "tenors" <<
> \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Tenor"
> \new Voice = "tenors" { \global \tenorMusic }
>   >>
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "tenors" { \tenorWords }
>   \new Staff = "basses" <<
> \set Staff.instrumentName = #"Bass"
> \new Voice = "basses" { \global \bassMusic }
>   >>
>   \new Lyrics \lyricsto "basses" { \bassWords }
> >>
> 
> \new PianoStaff <<
>   \set PianoStaff.instrumentName = #"Piano  "
>   \new Staff = "upper" \upper
>   \new Staff = "lower" \lower
> >>
>   >>
> }
> 
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Re: Templates combined?

2013-05-03 Thread Nandi
Urs Liska  openlilylib.org> writes:

> 
> Hm, as far as I know (and my mail reader tells) I attached a plain .ly
> file ...
> 
> But you'll find the content of that file at the end of this message (in
> the hope mail transfer protocols and readers won't mess it up ...)
> 
> Urs
> 

Your .ly file was somehow downloaded as a .bin,
but I've changed the extension back to .ly and it worked well.
After modifying the missing { \altoWords } etc. strings
to { \verseI } etc., it works perfect. Thanks for your kind help!

Nandi


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Documentation: No solution shown for layout-set-staff-size problem

2013-05-03 Thread James Harkins
May I mention a small omission in the documentation?

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/setting-the-staff-size

~~
Known issues and warnings
layout-set-staff-size does not change the distance between the staff lines.
~~

It would be helpful here to have a link to a section of the
documentation that explains how to override this distance, and/or an
example of setting this in the layout block.

I found here [1] that I can override #'staff-space in each staff's
\with block. However, since we---as it appears in the score's layout
block, it would be nice to set the default staff-space for all staves
in the score also in the layout block.

I'm aware that I can use #(set-global-staff-size size) to change the
font size and line spacing at once, globally, for an entire book. I
don't think that helps in this case, where I'm embedding a small score
into a \markup block for a page of instructions preceding the actual
music. This page will appear in the score and also in the parts -- in
the parts, I'm not reducing the font size for the main \score, but I
do want to reduce the font size for this embedded \score. Since the
embedded score is very short, I don't mind using the \with block
workaround.

I just wanted to call attention to it as something in the
documentation where the solution is absent.

hjh

[1] http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/modifying-single-staves

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Re: lilypond 2.16.2 soon in Debian?

2013-05-03 Thread Francisco Vila
2013/4/26 Federico Bruni :
>
> 2013/4/24 Don Armstrong 
>>
>> It will be uploaded to unstable once the current testing releases
>> (wheezy). Then it will transition to the new testing (jessie), and
>> soon after that I'll make an upload to backports.
>>
>> Because 2.16 released well after the freeze of wheezy, it won't be
>> included in the release.
...
>
> Anyway, good to know that 2.16 will reach testing and backports quite soon.

Just a note to point out that Ubuntu Raring (released april) comes
with lilypond 2.16

-- 
Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain)
www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com

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mdash in markup?

2013-05-03 Thread James Harkins
How should one use — in a markup block?

This isn't right. I tried a few variants as well. All replicate the
text — instead of inserting the symbol.

\markup "a — dash"

hjh

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Re: mdash in markup?

2013-05-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi,

> How should one use — in a markup block?

If you're on a Mac, it's option+shift plus the - key: —
Don't know on other OS/keyboards.
p.s. You can also just cut and paste the one I just typed up there… and here – 
is an en-dash, for future reference.

Hope this helps!
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Re: mdash in markup?

2013-05-03 Thread Noeck
Am 03.05.2013 13:16, schrieb James Harkins:
> How should one use — in a markup block?


You can use the unicode character directly: —

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Re: cre - - sen - - do

2013-05-03 Thread Carlo Stemberger

Il 30/04/2013 06:36, Jay Anderson ha scritto:
I believe this has been discussed in the past, but I couldn't find an 
enhancement request filed.


This is the old thread:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/29244/

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Re: mdash in markup?

2013-05-03 Thread Noeck


Am 03.05.2013 13:35, schrieb Noeck:
> Am 03.05.2013 13:16, schrieb James Harkins:
>> How should one use — in a markup block?
> 
> 
> You can use the unicode character directly: —

Some methods:

1.) copy this: —

2.) (under linux): Compose + - - -

3.) what you probably intended: use the html code:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/special-characters#ascii-aliases
\paper {
  #(include-special-characters)
}
\markup "—"

4.) Using the unicode number (x2014):
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/special-characters#unicode
\markup { \char ##x2014 }

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Re: mdash in markup?

2013-05-03 Thread James Harkins
On May 3, 2013 7:29 PM, "Kieren MacMillan" 
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> > How should one use — in a markup block?
>
> If you're on a Mac, it's option+shift plus the - key: —
> Don't know on other OS/keyboards.
> p.s. You can also just cut and paste the one I just typed up there… and
here – is an en-dash, for future reference.

I see. I can get it from the character map application in Ubuntu.

I am puzzled, though, as the Notation Reference documents the use of
html-style notation for special characters.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/list-of-special-characters

So I suppose either the software or the manual is not correct (or the
manual could be correct but misleading).

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Re: mdash in markup?

2013-05-03 Thread Eluze
Noeck wrote
>> You can use the unicode character directly: —
> 
> Some methods:
> 
> 3.) what you probably intended: use the html code:
> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/special-characters#ascii-aliases
> \paper {
>   #(include-special-characters)
> }
> \markup "—"

small wonder why this is not included by default?!

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Re: mdash in markup?

2013-05-03 Thread Urs Liska

Am 03.05.2013 13:59, schrieb James Harkins:


On May 3, 2013 7:29 PM, "Kieren MacMillan" 
mailto:kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca>> 
wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> > How should one use — in a markup block?
>
> If you're on a Mac, it's option+shift plus the - key: ---
> Don't know on other OS/keyboards.
> p.s. You can also just cut and paste the one I just typed up 
there... and here -- is an en-dash, for future reference.


I see. I can get it from the character map application in Ubuntu.

I am puzzled, though, as the Notation Reference documents the use of 
html-style notation for special characters.


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/list-of-special-characters 



So I suppose either the software or the manual is not correct (or the 
manual could be correct but misleading).



Half-half I'd say.
In the first line of that page you're directed to
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/special-characters#ascii-aliases
where the first example uses

\paper {
  #(include-special-characters)
}

So everything is there, but you're right it could be more explicit.

Urs


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Re: lilypond 2.16.2 soon in Debian?

2013-05-03 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila  writes:

> 2013/4/26 Federico Bruni :
>>
>> 2013/4/24 Don Armstrong 
>>>
>>> It will be uploaded to unstable once the current testing releases
>>> (wheezy). Then it will transition to the new testing (jessie), and
>>> soon after that I'll make an upload to backports.
>>>
>>> Because 2.16 released well after the freeze of wheezy, it won't be
>>> included in the release.
> ...
>>
>> Anyway, good to know that 2.16 will reach testing and backports
>> quite soon.
>
> Just a note to point out that Ubuntu Raring (released april) comes
> with lilypond 2.16

Oh wow.  2.16.0, but that's more than I'd have expected.

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Re: Glissando to a rest

2013-05-03 Thread Jacques Menu
Since this leads to extra notes and I have to play tricks to keep the bar 
numbering in sync:

\cadenzaOn
es4 -> \glissando 
\hideNotes
es,4
\unHideNotes
r4 r2 
\cadenzaOff
\hideNotes
%   | % 54
s1*1
\unHideNotes
\bar "|"

wouldn't it be possible to have this particular "glissando to nothing 
specified" as an articulation, similar to staccato?

Le 1 mai 2013 à 08:13:37, SoundsFromSound  a écrit :

> Does this help you?
> 
> \relative c'' {
>  \time 3/4
>  \override Glissando #'style = #'zigzag
>  c4 c
>  \cadenzaOn
>  c4\glissando
>  \hideNotes
>  c,,4
>  \unHideNotes
>  \cadenzaOff
>  \bar "|"
> }
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jacques Menu TvTMail wrote
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I didn't find how to have a glissando between a real pitch and a rest,
>> kind of "fall down" at the end of the note. 
>> Tried to insert s1*0, but to no avail.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help!
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> --
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multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Sarah k Alawami
I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to memorize how to 
do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me lol! I'm in 12/8 so I'll have 
4 doted quarter notes so would the multi measure rest look like this for one 
measure

R4. R4. R4. R4. |
for example?

Thanks all. and sorry for all of the questions.

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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread bobr...@centrum.is


- Original Message -
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "lilly pond discuss discuss" 
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:13:44 PM
Subject: multi measure rests

I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to memorize how to 
do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me lol! I'm in 12/8 so I'll have 
4 doted quarter notes so would the multi measure rest look like this for one 
measure

R4. R4. R4. R4. |
for example?

Thanks all. and sorry for all of the questions.

Take care.

For one measure rest in 12/8:

R1.

Several measures rest in 12/8, for example, 8 measures:

R1.*8

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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Noeck


Am 03.05.2013 18:13, schrieb Sarah k Alawami:
> I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to memorize how 
> to do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me lol! I'm in 12/8 so I'll 
> have 4 doted quarter notes so would the multi measure rest look like this for 
> one measure
> 
> R4. R4. R4. R4. |
> for example?

Hi Sarah,

multimeasure rests have a duration of the full measure (4/4 = 1  in a
4/4 measure for example). So in your 12/8 measure you can only have one
single 12/8 full measure rest in it:

R1*12/8  or R1.

If you want to have 4 dotted quarter rests you have to use the "lower
case" rests because they do not fill the measure:

r4. r4. r4. r4. |

If you want to repeat them:
\repeat unfold 5 { r4. r4. r4. r4. }

Cheers,
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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Ok. I see there a dotted hole note, but  a dotted whole note or in this case 
whole rest is only 8 eithgh notes if I counted correctly which my coffee 
deprived brain probably did not lol!  I get the feeling that i'm making this 
harder then it really is.  lol!

Take care all and thanks.
On May 3, 2013, at 9:23 AM, bobr...@centrum.is wrote:

> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "lilly pond discuss discuss" 
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:13:44 PM
> Subject: multi measure rests
> 
> I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to memorize how 
> to do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me lol! I'm in 12/8 so I'll 
> have 4 doted quarter notes so would the multi measure rest look like this for 
> one measure
> 
> R4. R4. R4. R4. |
> for example?
> 
> Thanks all. and sorry for all of the questions.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> For one measure rest in 12/8:
> 
> R1.
> 
> Several measures rest in 12/8, for example, 8 measures:
> 
> R1.*8
> 
> -David


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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Noeck


Am 03.05.2013 18:44, schrieb Sarah k Alawami:
> Ok. I see there a dotted hole note, but  a dotted whole note or in this case 
> whole rest is only 8 eithgh notes if I counted correctly which my coffee 
> deprived brain probably did not lol!  I get the feeling that i'm making this 
> harder then it really is.  lol!

A dotted whole note is 1 + 1/2 note = 4/4 + 2/4 = 8/8 + 4/8 = 12/8

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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Urs Liska
A MultiMeasureRest for one measure always _looks_ like a whole note rest, no 
matter how long its real duration is.
Maybe it's this what you mix up?

Best
Urs



Sarah k Alawami  schrieb:

>Ok. I see there a dotted hole note, but  a dotted whole note or in this
>case whole rest is only 8 eithgh notes if I counted correctly which my
>coffee deprived brain probably did not lol!  I get the feeling that i'm
>making this harder then it really is.  lol!
>
>Take care all and thanks.
>On May 3, 2013, at 9:23 AM, bobr...@centrum.is wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
>> To: "lilly pond discuss discuss" 
>> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:13:44 PM
>> Subject: multi measure rests
>> 
>> I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to
>memorize how to do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me lol!
>I'm in 12/8 so I'll have 4 doted quarter notes so would the multi
>measure rest look like this for one measure
>> 
>> R4. R4. R4. R4. |
>> for example?
>> 
>> Thanks all. and sorry for all of the questions.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> 
>> For one measure rest in 12/8:
>> 
>> R1.
>> 
>> Several measures rest in 12/8, for example, 8 measures:
>> 
>> R1.*8
>> 
>> -David
>
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Rumor plugin for Frescobaldi

2013-05-03 Thread Johan Vromans
I'm running Frescobaldi 2.0.9 on Fedora 17. 

There is supposed to be a Rumor plugin but I can't find it. Am I
overlooking something?

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run off page

2013-05-03 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Hello:

 

The first 89 measures of a piano piece compiles without error. With the 90th
measure the notation runs off the right edge of the page. No error message
is given.

 

The attached file has measures 88 - 90 of the right hand.

 

Please point out my error.

 

Thank you for your kind attention.

 

Mark

\version "2.16.2"

global = {
  \key des \major
  \time 4/4

}
  \relative c''
 {
  \global

\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8)
 \override TupletNumber #'stencil = ##f
 \override TupletBracket #'bracket-visibility = ##f
 r16 \times 2/3 { g'16-1 ( aes bes [ aes g ] )
 r aes-2 ( bes c [ bes aes ] )
 bes ( [ des c ] bes [ aes g ] )
 f-4 ( [ ees des ] c [ bes-2 aes ] )
 r g-1 ( aes bes [ aes g ] )
 r aes-2 ( bes c [ bes aes ] ) 
 bes ( [ des-5 c ] bes [ aes g ] )
 f-4 ( [ ees des ] c [ bes-3 aes ]  ) 
% Up to here file compiles. Adding the next line makes notation run off page.
 \clef bass r g bes  r f aes r g bes r c ees  }

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Re: run off page

2013-05-03 Thread Phil Holmes
You have a triplet that spans the whole of your music.  My guess is that this 
is preventing line breaking. Do you mean the whole music should be a single 
triplet

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Stephen Mrotek 
  To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:20 PM
  Subject: run off page


  Hello:

   

  The first 89 measures of a piano piece compiles without error. With the 90th 
measure the notation runs off the right edge of the page. No error message is 
given.

   

  The attached file has measures 88 - 90 of the right hand.

   

  Please point out my error.

   

  Thank you for your kind attention.

   

  Mark



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Re: accidentals and broken bars

2013-05-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/29 Werner LEMBERG :
>
>>> \relative c'' {
>>>  cis4 cis \bar"" \break
>>>  cis cis
>>>}
>>
>> How about
>>
>> \relative c'' {
>> cis4 cis \bar"" \break
>> cis! cis
>>   }
>
> Thanks, but this makes an additional accidental in case the bar
> doesn't get broken.  I want a solution which is independent on the
> layout.
>
> Note that I'm intentionally asking this apparently naive question here
> on the user mailing list and not on `devel', but my gut feeling says
> that this functionality is missing in lilypond...

Apparently.
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3347

best,
Janek

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RE: run off page

2013-05-03 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Mr. Holmes:

 

Thank you for replying.

 

No, the tuplet is intermittent. It appears in various measures in the first
88 measures without incident. 

In the attached it is only with the {  }.

 

As stated in the attached code, measures 88 and 89 compile without error.
Only with the addition of measure 90 (the one that starts with the bass
clef) does the "runoff" occur.

 

Mark

 

From: Phil Holmes [mailto:m...@philholmes.net] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:39 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: run off page

 

You have a triplet that spans the whole of your music.  My guess is that
this is preventing line breaking. Do you mean the whole music should be a
single triplet


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- Original Message - 

From: Mark Stephen Mrotek   

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org 

Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 8:20 PM

Subject: run off page

 

Hello:

 

The first 89 measures of a piano piece compiles without error. With the 90th
measure the notation runs off the right edge of the page. No error message
is given.

 

The attached file has measures 88 - 90 of the right hand.

 

Please point out my error.

 

Thank you for your kind attention.

 

Mark


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Re: run off page

2013-05-03 Thread Marek Klein
Hello,


2013/5/3 Mark Stephen Mrotek 

>
> Hello:
>
>
>
> The first 89 measures of a piano piece compiles without error. With the
> 90th measure the notation runs off the right edge of the page. No error
> message is given.
>
>
>
> The attached file has measures 88 – 90 of the right hand.
>
>
>
> Please point out my error.
>
>
>
It works if the first rest is included in the

\times 2/3 { } part...


Use bar checks...

HTH


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Re: run off page

2013-05-03 Thread Nick Payne

On 04/05/13 05:20, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:


Hello:

The first 89 measures of a piano piece compiles without error. With 
the 90th measure the notation runs off the right edge of the page. No 
error message is given.


The attached file has measures 88 -- 90 of the right hand.

Please point out my error.

Add barchecks and you will find your initial bar is the wrong length. 
Your initial rest should be part of the tuplet, or there is nowhere for 
the barlines to correctly go.
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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Wim van Dommelen

I remember and use it this way:

R   

so: R1*3 is three times the length of one whole note. Always calculate  
the total length you need and that it gets there.


I tried simply this: Assume you want 4/4 followed by 3/4 and three  
full measures rest in each:


{
\time 4/4
c''1
R1*3
\time 3/4
c''2.
R1*3
}

what you get is: one whole c'', 3 whole measures rest, time change,  
one dotted half note c'', FOUR(!) measures rest


This is because 3 times a whole note rest equals 3 times 4 quarters =  
12 quarters, which is four time a full measure of three quarters.


To get three rest measures in the 3/4 time you need:

{
\time 4/4
c''1
R1*3
\time 3/4
c''2.
R2.*3
}

I can get exactly the same by specifying R4*9, which is also 9 quarters.

Setting \compressFullBarRests in this doesn't make a difference. So  
the statement this is no matter its real duration is not correct  
i.m.h.o., it IS the real duration you need tp specify.


Regards,
Wim.




On 3 May 2013, at 18:58 , Urs Liska wrote:

A MultiMeasureRest for one measure always _looks_ like a whole note  
rest, no matter how long its real duration is.

Maybe it's this what you mix up?

Best
Urs



Sarah k Alawami  schrieb:
Ok. I see there a dotted hole note, but  a dotted whole note or in  
this case whole rest is only 8 eithgh notes if I counted correctly  
which my coffee deprived brain probably did not lol!  I get the  
feeling that i'm making this harder then it really is.  lol!


Take care all and thanks.
On May 3, 2013, at 9:23 AM, bobr...@centrum.is wrote:



- Original Message -
From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
To: "lilly pond discuss discuss" 
Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:13:44 PM
Subject: multi measure rests

I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to  
memorize how to do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me  
lol! I'm in 12/8 so I'll have 4
doted quarter notes so would the multi measure rest look like this  
for one measure


R4. R4. R4. R4. |
for example?

Thanks all. and sorry for all of the questions.

Take care.

For one measure rest in 12/8:

R1.

Several measures rest in 12/8, for example, 8 measures:

R1.*8

-David



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RE: run off page

2013-05-03 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Nick Payne:

 

Thank you for your reply and the solution.

I appreciate the time and effort you took to find it.

 

Mark

 

From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
Nick Payne
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 1:10 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: run off page

 

On 04/05/13 05:20, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote:

Hello:

 

The first 89 measures of a piano piece compiles without error. With the 90th
measure the notation runs off the right edge of the page. No error message
is given.

 

The attached file has measures 88 - 90 of the right hand.

 

Please point out my error.

 

Add barchecks and you will find your initial bar is the wrong length. Your
initial rest should be part of the tuplet, or there is nowhere for the
barlines to correctly go. 

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RE: run off page

2013-05-03 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Marek Klein,

 

Thank you for the reply and the solution.

I appreciate the time and effort you spent to find it.

 

Mark

 

From: Marek Klein [mailto:ma...@gregoriana.sk] 
Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 12:59 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: run off page

 

Hello,

 

2013/5/3 Mark Stephen Mrotek 

 

Hello:

 

The first 89 measures of a piano piece compiles without error. With the 90th
measure the notation runs off the right edge of the page. No error message
is given.

 

The attached file has measures 88 - 90 of the right hand.

 

Please point out my error.

 

It works if the first rest is included in the 

\times 2/3 { } part...

 

Use bar checks...

HTH



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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Possibally. Like I said I'm so new to lily pound   and I'm trying to read the 
docs as best I could but sometimes the explanations are just a tad unclear. 
lol! and I'm trying to do my final assignment from a transcription in braille 
gone wrong. lol!

Take care.
On May 3, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:

> A MultiMeasureRest for one measure always _looks_ like a whole note rest, no 
> matter how long its real duration is.
> Maybe it's this what you mix up?
> 
> Best
> Urs
> 
> 
> 
> Sarah k Alawami  schrieb:
> Ok. I see there a dotted hole note, but  a dotted whole note or in this case 
> whole rest is only 8 eithgh notes if I counted correctly which my coffee 
> deprived brain probably did not lol!  I get the feeling that i'm making this 
> harder then it really is.  lol!
> 
> Take care all and thanks.
> On May 3, 2013, at 9:23 AM, bobr...@centrum.is wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sarah k Alawami" 
> To: "lilly pond discuss discuss" 
> Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 4:13:44 PM
> Subject: multi measure rests
> 
> I read the docs on how to do this but is there an easier way to memorize how 
> to do this? the fractions confuse the heck out of me lol! I'm in 12/8 so I'll 
> have 4
> doted quarter notes so would the multi measure rest look like this for one 
> measure
> 
> R4. R4. R4. R4. |
> for example?
> 
> Thanks all. and sorry for all of the questions.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> For one measure rest in 12/8:
> 
> R1.
> 
> Several measures rest in 12/8, for example, 8 measures:
> 
> R1.*8
> 
> -David
> 
> 
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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Noeck
Hi,

I also have a question for you: You seem to use braille music output
from LilyPond. Is that builtin in LilyPond? Could you (or anyone) point
me to some documentation how to use that? I would like to try it.

Cheers,
Joram

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Re: Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Evan Driscoll
On 05/03/2013 03:11 PM, Wim van Dommelen wrote:
> I remember and use it this way:
> 
> R   
> 
> so: R1*3 is three times the length of one whole note. Always calculate
> the total length you need and that it gets there.

FWIW, the general form of what I do is

  R1**

So instead of typing "R2.*3" for a three-measure rest in 3/4 time, I
would spell that as "R1*3/4*3". Instead of a full measure of rest in
12/8 being written as "R1.", I would write it as "R1*12/8".

I'll leave out the * part for 4/4 time, but everything
else gets written out even if there is a more succinct way of expressing
it. I'll usually leave out the * bit if there's only
one. But the point is I always start with "R1" and then scale as necessary.

BTW, I make no claim that this is particularly good practice or that
you'll like it; I'm not an experienced Lilypond user by any means. (I
got into this habit as I'm very very slowly working on typesetting the
parts to Mars, which of course is in 5/4 time. I'm not sure if there
even is another way to mark a full-measure of rest in 5/4 time without
using a scaling.) I just bring it up to show my own view and also to
point out that you can use * to scale the length of a measure in
addition to specifying multiple measures. (Really they're both doing the
same thing, but I think of them as being for different reasons.)

Evan



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Re: Rumor plugin for Frescobaldi

2013-05-03 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Fri, 03 May 2013 20:07:56 +0200
Johan Vromans  schreef:

> I'm running Frescobaldi 2.0.9 on Fedora 17. 
> 
> There is supposed to be a Rumor plugin but I can't find it. Am I
> overlooking something?

Not in 2.x unfortunately.

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Re: cre - - sen - - do

2013-05-03 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op Thu, 02 May 2013 07:59:00 +1000
Nick Payne  schreef:

> Wouldn't it be easier on the performer to have "cresc. poco a poco"
> or "dim. poco a poco", so that they don't have to scan to the end of
> the phrase to see if it is a crescendo or diminuendo.

Yes, but in this case I copied an old score exactly :)

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Re: multi measure rests

2013-05-03 Thread Sarah k Alawami
Actually I'm not. The university brailled my piano transcript Im working off 
of. It would be nice though if maybe a musk student could learn lily pond and 
output it in to braille so all of my stuff could be done in house. using music 
vml or some such thing.

Take care.
On May 3, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Noeck  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I also have a question for you: You seem to use braille music output
> from LilyPond. Is that builtin in LilyPond? Could you (or anyone) point
> me to some documentation how to use that? I would like to try it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Joram
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Re: Lyrics and Punctuations Alignment Issue?

2013-05-03 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Ming and Jun,

This should work for the special period character.  If there are any other
punctuation marks you need at the ends of words, add them as strings to the
variable called "punct-right."  Note: punctuation which goes to the left is
handled differently.  If you need additional characters, add them to the
variable "punct-L" as characters--i.e. preceded by #\

If you need any multi-byte characters for punctuation which goes to the
left, the function will need to be adapted.  Easy enough to do--just let me
know.

HTH,
David

%
\version "2.16"

#(define (drop-punctuation-right str)
  (let ((punct-right '("," ";" ":" "?" "\"" "'" "!" "。")))
(let loop ((elt punct-right))
  (if (null? elt)
  #f
  (if (string-suffix? (car elt) str)
  (string-drop-right str (string-length (car elt)))
  (loop (cdr elt)))

#(define (drop-all-punctuation-right str)
  (let ((core (drop-punctuation-right str)))
(if core
(drop-all-punctuation-right core)
str)))

#(define (align grob)
  (let* ((stil (ly:grob-property grob 'stencil))
 (stil-X (ly:stencil-extent stil X))
 (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
 (punct-L (char-set #\" #\`))
 ; determine X-extent of text stencil without punctuation at end
 (text-L (drop-all-punctuation-right text))
 (text-L-stil (grob-interpret-markup grob text-L))
 (text-L-stil-X (ly:stencil-extent text-L-stil X))
 (displacement (/ (- (cdr text-L-stil-X) (cdr stil-X)) 2))
 ; determine X-extent of text stencil without punctuation at start
 (text-R (string-trim text punct-L))
 (text-R-stil (grob-interpret-markup grob text-R))
 (text-R-stil-X (ly:stencil-extent text-R-stil X))
 (displacement (+ displacement
  (/ (- (cdr stil-X) (cdr text-R-stil-X)) 2

 (- (ly:self-alignment-interface::aligned-on-x-parent grob)
displacement)))

\paper {
  ragged-right = ##f
}

\relative c' {
  \time 3/4 e4 e4. e8
  d4 e d c2.
}

\addlyrics {
  \override LyricText #'X-offset = #align
  "\"I" am so lone -- "ly,\"" said she
}
\addlyrics {
  \override LyricText #'X-offset = #align
  樂無  極! 寶  名, 貝  名。 啊?
}
\addlyrics {
  \override LyricText #'X-offset = #align
  a b c d e f g
}
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Re: cre - - sen - - do

2013-05-03 Thread Derek
I tried within my dymanic stave and this was the result:
s4 s8 {s8-\tweak#'text"cre"\cresc s4 s8-\tweak#'text"scen"\cresc s8%|28
s4 s8-\tweak#'text"do"\cresc s8 s4 -\tweak#'text"molto"\cresc s4%|29
s4\f} s4 s4 s4%|30
 






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Re: Lyrics and Punctuations Alignment Issue?

2013-05-03 Thread MING TSANG
David, 

Thank you very much.  I try to do two punctuation to the left, but I cannot 
make it work.  Any help is appreciated.  Please refer to "a" and "c" from the 
.png

Thank again,
Ming.



>
> From: David Nalesnik 
>To: Jun Wang  
>Cc: MING TSANG ; "lilypond-user@gnu.org" 
> 
>Sent: Friday, May 3, 2013 9:00:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Lyrics and Punctuations Alignment Issue?
> 
>
>
>Hi Ming and Jun,
>
>
>This should work for the special period character.  If there are any other 
>punctuation marks you need at the ends of words, add them as strings to the 
>variable called "punct-right."  Note: punctuation which goes to the left is 
>handled differently.  If you need additional characters, add them to the 
>variable "punct-L" as characters--i.e. preceded by #\
>
>
>If you need any multi-byte characters for punctuation which goes to the left, 
>the function will need to be adapted.  Easy enough to do--just let me know.
>
>
>HTH,
>David
>
>
>%
>\version "2.16"
>
>
>#(define (drop-punctuation-right str)
>  (let ((punct-right '("," ";" ":" "?" "\"" "'" "!" "。")))
>    (let loop ((elt punct-right))
>      (if (null? elt)
>          #f
>          (if (string-suffix? (car elt) str)
>              (string-drop-right str (string-length (car elt)))
>              (loop (cdr elt)))
>
>
>#(define (drop-all-punctuation-right str)
>  (let ((core (drop-punctuation-right str)))
>    (if core
>        (drop-all-punctuation-right core)
>        str)))
>
>
>#(define (align grob)
>  (let* ((stil (ly:grob-property grob 'stencil))
>         (stil-X (ly:stencil-extent stil X))
>         (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
>         (punct-L (char-set #\" #\`))
>         ; determine X-extent of text stencil without punctuation at end
>         (text-L (drop-all-punctuation-right text))
>         (text-L-stil (grob-interpret-markup grob text-L))
>         (text-L-stil-X (ly:stencil-extent text-L-stil X))
>         (displacement (/ (- (cdr text-L-stil-X) (cdr stil-X)) 2))
>         ; determine X-extent of text stencil without punctuation at start
>         (text-R (string-trim text punct-L))
>         (text-R-stil (grob-interpret-markup grob text-R))
>         (text-R-stil-X (ly:stencil-extent text-R-stil X))
>         (displacement (+ displacement
>                          (/ (- (cdr stil-X) (cdr text-R-stil-X)) 2
>
>
>     (- (ly:self-alignment-interface::aligned-on-x-parent grob)
>        displacement)))
>
>
>\paper {
>  ragged-right = ##f
>}
>
>
>\relative c' {
>  \time 3/4 e4 e4. e8
>  d4 e d c2.
>}
>
>
>\addlyrics {
>  \override LyricText #'X-offset = #align
>  "\"I" am so lone -- "ly,\"" said she
>}
>\addlyrics {
>  \override LyricText #'X-offset = #align
>  樂無  極! 寶  名, 貝  名。 啊?
>}
>\addlyrics {
>  \override LyricText #'X-offset = #align
>  a b c d e f g
>}
>
>\version "2.16"

#(define (drop-punctuation-right str)
  (let ((punct-right '("," ";" ":" "?" "]" ")" "!" "。"))) % I updated this line
(let loop ((elt punct-right))
  (if (null? elt)
  #f
  (if (string-suffix? (car elt) str)
  (string-drop-right str (string-length (car elt)))
  (loop (cdr elt)))

#(define (drop-all-punctuation-right str)
  (let ((core (drop-punctuation-right str)))
(if core
(drop-all-punctuation-right core)
str)))


#(define (drop-punctuation-left str)		%line 19   I added line 19 - 32  and change all -right to -left
  (let ((punct-left '("[" "(" )))		% I modify  
(let loop ((elt punct-left))
  (if (null? elt)
  #f
  (if (string-suffix? (car elt) str)
  (string-drop-left str (string-length (car elt)))
  (loop (cdr elt)))

#(define (drop-all-punctuation-left str)
  (let ((core (drop-punctuation-left str)))
(if core
(drop-all-punctuation-left core)
str)))	%line 32



#(define (align grob)
  (let* ((stil (ly:grob-property grob 'stencil))
 (stil-X (ly:stencil-extent stil X))
 (text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
 (punct-L (char-set #\" #\`))
 ; determine X-extent of text stencil without punctuation at end
 (text-L (drop-all-punctuation-right text))
 (text-L-stil (grob-interpret-markup grob text-L))
 (text-L-stil-X (ly:stencil-extent text-L-stil X))
 (displacement (/ (- (cdr text-L-stil-X) (cdr stil-X)) 2))
 ; determine X-extent of text stencil without punctuation at start
 (text-R (string-trim text punct-L))
 (text-R-stil (grob-interpret-markup grob text-R))
 (text-R-stil-X (ly:stencil-extent text-R-stil X))
 (displacement (+ displacement
  (/ (- (cdr stil-X) (cdr text-R-stil-X)) 2

 (- (ly:self-alignment-interface::aligned-on-x-parent grob)
displacement)))

\paper {
  ragged-right = ##f
}

\relative c' {
  \time 3/4 e4 e4. e8
  d4 e d c2.
}

\addlyrics {
  \override LyricText #'X-o

Re: Lyrics and Punctuations Alignment Issue?

2013-05-03 Thread David Nalesnik
Ming,




On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:08 PM, MING TSANG  wrote:

> David,
>
> Thank you very much.  I try to do two punctuation to the left, but I
> cannot make it work.  Any help is appreciated.  Please refer to "a" and "c"
> from the .png
>

As I explained in my email, if you need additional punctuation you need to
add it to the respective variables.

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Error: \override DynamicTextSpanner.style = #'none

2013-05-03 Thread Derek
I am wanting to override the DynamicTextSpanner and I pulled the example
straight from the lilypond website and it won't compile. Running 2.16.2 
\paper {

}

\layout {
  
}

\header {

} % begin verbatim


\relative c'' {
  \override DynamicTextSpanner.style = #'none
  \crescTextCresc
  c1\< | d | b | c\!
}

tarting lilypond 2.16.2 [lily-df2a164d.ly]...
Processing `/home/shmk/Desktop/lily-df2a164d.ly'
Parsing...
/home/shmk/Desktop/lily-df2a164d.ly:30:37: error: syntax error, unexpected
'=', expecting SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN
  \override DynamicTextSpanner.style 
 = #'none
/home/shmk/Desktop/lily-df2a164d.ly:30:39: warning: Ignoring non-music
expression
  \override DynamicTextSpanner.style = 
   #'none
/home/shmk/Desktop/lily-df2a164d.ly:29:0: error: errors found, ignoring
music expression

\relative c'' {
fatal error: failed files: "/home/shmk/Desktop/lily-df2a164d.ly"
Exited with return code 1.

Any idea why this is happening or how to fix it?



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Re: Error: \override DynamicTextSpanner.style = #'none

2013-05-03 Thread Eluze
 \override DynamicTextSpanner.style = #'none

this looks like 2.17... and later syntax!

Eluse



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Re: Error: \override DynamicTextSpanner.style = #'none

2013-05-03 Thread Nick Payne

On 04/05/13 16:22, Derek wrote:

I am wanting to override the DynamicTextSpanner and I pulled the example
straight from the lilypond website and it won't compile. Running 2.16.2
\paper {

}

\layout {
   
}


\header {

} % begin verbatim


\relative c'' {
   \override DynamicTextSpanner.style = #'none
   \crescTextCresc
   c1\< | d | b | c\!
}

tarting lilypond 2.16.2 [lily-df2a164d.ly]...
Processing `/home/shmk/Desktop/lily-df2a164d.ly'
Parsing...
/home/shmk/Desktop/lily-df2a164d.ly:30:37: error: syntax error, unexpected
'=', expecting SCM_FUNCTION or SCM_IDENTIFIER or SCM_TOKEN
   \override DynamicTextSpanner.style
  = #'none


You've pulled your example from the 2.17 docs, not the 2.16 docs. You 
need to use


\override DynamicTextSpanner #'style = #'none

instead. See 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes. 
 

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Re: Error: \override DynamicTextSpanner.style = #'none

2013-05-03 Thread Derek
Ah yes  thank you!



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