Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
Graham Percival writes: >> Getting an actual LilyPond score requires calculating >> line breaks and there's no way to get rid of the overhead. > > Sure there is. Compile each bar individually with the default > spacing (i.e. whatever you get if your entire score is one bar and > you use ragged-right=##t). Indeed. There are several approaches here that I'm looking into and I'm [intermittently and slowly] working at; see Schikkers-List http://news.lilynet.net/?The-LilyPond-Report-22&lang=en The idea is to have a native GTK frontend used for user input and rendering initially, and to look into rendering onto HTML later. Greetings, Jan -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | Avatar® http://AvatarAcademy.nl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > Architecturally it is very difficult. Rather than making lilypond much > more complicated to do incremental rendering, why not invert the > problem: have your editor control line breaks, and use lilypond to > render just one line of music at a time. This is exactly what Schikkers-List v0.0.3 does, as an obvious and simple extention to the Ikebana prototype. I'm now working on a new data structure which detaches rendering action from the internal music structure. That should enable using different threads in the GUI for managing GUI updates and talking to the lilypond server. Which in turn will enable using parallel lilypond processes to do bits of rendering. Jan -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond http://lilypond.org Freelance IT http://JoyofSource.com | Avatar® http://AvatarAcademy.nl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to use clef "moderntab"
Thanks Shane, this did the trick. The syntax makes a lot more sense, don't
know what I was thinking...
-Ben
On 7 August 2012 13:24, Shane Frasier wrote:
> Ben,
>
> I am still a bit of a novice myself, but I think you want to do something
> like:
>
> \new StaffGroup <<
> \new Staff {
> \clef "bass_8"
> \symbols
> }
> \new TabStaff {
> \clef moderntab
> \set TabStaff.stringTunings = #bass-tuning
> \symbols
> }
> >>
>
> Shane
> -
> Shane Frasier
> sfras...@mac.com
>
>
>
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 7:03 PM, Ben Eichler wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
>
> I'm a brand new user of Lilypond, just downloaded this morning! I'm using
> it to create more beautiful scores for my guitar and bass students.
>
> In the notation reference under section 2.4.1 Custom
> tablatures
> there
> is an alternative clef used called "moderntab", which is a really nice
> clean sans-serif clef. I tried inserting the declaration just as it was in
> the code snippet, and it doesn't render in the pdf output! So I checked the
> log, and this is what I'm getting:
>
> *# -*-compilation-*-*
> *Processing `C:/Users/Ben/Desktop/raindance2.ly'*
> *Parsing...*
> *Interpreting music... [8]*
> *Preprocessing graphical objects...*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab_change' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab_change' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *warning: clef `markup.moderntab' not found*
> *Finding the ideal number of pages...*
> *Fitting music on 1 page...*
> *Drawing systems...*
> *Layout output to `/Users/Ben/Desktop/raindance2.ps'...*
> *Converting to `/Users/Ben/Desktop/raindance2.pdf'...*
> *success: Compilation successfully completed*
>
> This is how I declared the staves (the variable "symbols" holds the
> musical notes):
>
> *\new StaffGroup <<*
> *\new Staff \symbols {*
> *\clef "bass_8"*
> *}*
> *\new TabStaff \symbols {*
> *\clef moderntab*
> *\set TabStaff.stringTunings = #bass-tuning*
> *}*
> *>>*
>
> Can anybody help me solve this novice's problem? Many thanks,
>
>
> -Ben
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Re: Sibelius Software UK office shuts down
Jan Nieuwenhuizen writes: > Han-Wen Nienhuys writes: > >> Architecturally it is very difficult. Rather than making lilypond much >> more complicated to do incremental rendering, why not invert the >> problem: have your editor control line breaks, and use lilypond to >> render just one line of music at a time. > > This is exactly what Schikkers-List v0.0.3 does, as an obvious and > simple extention to the Ikebana prototype. > > I'm now working on a new data structure which detaches rendering action > from the internal music structure. That should enable using different > threads in the GUI for managing GUI updates and talking to the lilypond > server. Which in turn will enable using parallel lilypond processes to > do bits of rendering. I'll point at an old paper of mine here regarding various WYSIWYG techniques in the LaTeX editing world: http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/tb23-1/kastrup.pdf>. It would probably be reasonably straightforward to get a preview-latex-like operation for LilyPond-book which certainly would make writing LilyPond documentation quite more pleasant (and shortcut the horrible turnaround times for documentation compiles). In contrast to the original preview-latex problem, LilyPond-book snippets are independent and well-defined (rather than arbitrary document elements). But LilyPond-book is a special case with highlighted, interspersed music snippets. Good for musicological documents and articles about LilyPond, but not a main editor for LilyPond. Since the main problem in that article is to deal with the "I can't read this, even though I (probably) can write it" aspect of LaTeX which is pretty much the same problem space for LilyPond, it might be useful to go idea-fishing. I think that the mock-up approach used by LyX would usually already make most people happy (page layout control not being required on a permanent basis). At any rate, I think that an efficient workflow should try avoiding the need for more than a single editing window. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:52 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Since the main problem in that article is to deal with the "I can't read > this, even though I (probably) can write it" aspect of LaTeX which is > pretty much the same problem space for LilyPond, it might be useful to > go idea-fishing. > > I think that the mock-up approach used by LyX would usually already make > most people happy (page layout control not being required on a permanent > basis). At any rate, I think that an efficient workflow should try > avoiding the need for more than a single editing window. I agree, at least partly. LyX-like approach of giving a rough-but-human-readable preview - represented by Denemo in Lilypod world - appeals to me strongly. There are only two things that prevent me from using Denemo. First one is lack of source preservation (i.e. Denemo requires Lily files to be organized in a particular way. This means that i cannot structure my source as i wish, and also there are problems with Lily files not made by Denemo). The second problem is tweaking output, for example modifying shape of a slur. It doesn't make sense to do this in the rough preview. I think the best solution to this problem would be to improve point-and-click-based functions of editors like Frescobaldi. Wilbert said that it should be possible to move objects around in Frescobaldi's pdf view: for example, to grab a dynamic like this one http://news.lilynet.net/local/cache-vignettes/L405xH213/flat-dot_figure-13920.png with a mouse, move it in pdf view and have Frescobaldi insert appropriate offset override to the source. Of course, such an override might influence spacing or something, and this influence would be visible only after recompiling. But then, this feature would be used mainly for small touchups. Bottom line: i believe in a threefold editor, consisting of: - source view for setting up the structure and advanced hacking - rough preview for easy note entry - pdf view for final point-and-click touchups. How do you like it? Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Positioning a fermata - IGotMeFlowers.pdf (0/1)
The fermata in the bass clef in the attached pdf is too low, it's
right on top of the upper note in the chord. The source follows. If I
put the \fermata command in the "leftSecond" line, the fermata appears
below the music. Is there a way that I can put the fermata above the
notes, not clashing with it?
Here's the source:
\version "2.14.0"
\include "english.ly"
global = {
\time 4/4
\key e \minor
}
rightFirst = \relative c'' { \time 4/4
b4 a g8( fs e fs | <> <> a a | <> s4 |
}
rightSecond = \relative c'' {\time 4/4
fs,8 e fs ds b2 | s2 e8 g fs e | s1 |
}
leftFirst = \relative c' { \time 4/4
b4 fs e8 fs g a | b4 b c8 e ds e | s2. \fermata s4 |
}
leftSecond = \relative c {\time 4/4
ds8 cs ds b e2( | e8) fs g e c! b c4 | <> s4 |
}
\score {
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff = right << \clef treble
{ << \global \rightFirst >> }
\\ { << \global \rightSecond >>}
>>
\new Staff = left << \clef bass
{ << \global \leftFirst >>}
\\ {<< \global \leftSecond >>}
>>
>>
}
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Re: Positioning a fermata - IGotMeFlowers.pdf (0/1)
Tim Slattery writes:
> The fermata in the bass clef in the attached pdf is too low, it's
> right on top of the upper note in the chord.
Well, you placed the fermata on a _spacer_ rest rather than on a note.
> The source follows. If I put the \fermata command in the "leftSecond"
> line, the fermata appears below the music.
Well, write ^\fermata to make it appear above.
> rightFirst = \relative c'' { \time 4/4
> b4 a g8( fs e fs | <> <> a a | <> s4 |
> }
Anyway, is there something you have against using chords? This is
a rather strange way to write 2.\fermata here.
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How to get a (rhythmic) dot to follow a barline
I would like to put a dot after the barline to show (something like) a crotchet tied to a quaver - or according to http://ranumspanat.com/jacquet_dots.htm subtly different(!) It's more clear in this Beethoven string quartet: http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/2/28/IMSLP04769-Beethoven_-_String_Quartet_No.15_Dover.pdf e.g. page 17, second system, fourth bar violin 2 and 'cello; fifth bar viola. I did find this thread http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-05/msg00122.html from seven years ago through the search but it didn't seem to come to any solid conclusion, so I was wondering if things were different now? I am not concerned about MIDI output etc., so I would be happy to use an invisible rest and insert the dot as an "independent" object if possible? In a broader sense, that means being able to insert an arbitrary object. Any help/pointing me to the right part of documentation would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Positioning a fermata - IGotMeFlowers.pdf (0/1)
David Kastrup wrote:
>Tim Slattery writes:
>
>> The fermata in the bass clef in the attached pdf is too low, it's
>> right on top of the upper note in the chord.
>
>Well, you placed the fermata on a _spacer_ rest rather than on a note.
I know. But when I put it with the note in the "left second" part, it
appeared below the line.
>
>> The source follows. If I put the \fermata command in the "leftSecond"
>> line, the fermata appears below the music.
>
>Well, write ^\fermata to make it appear above.
THANK YOU, that's the magic word.
>
>> rightFirst = \relative c'' { \time 4/4
>> b4 a g8( fs e fs | <> <> a a | <> s4 |
>> }
>
>Anyway, is there something you have against using chords? This is
>a rather strange way to write 2.\fermata here.
Thanks for that, too. My only excuse is unfamiliarity with Lilypond.
I'm pretty much a neophyte.
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Re: Can anyone help to code what is in png.
MING TSANG wrote: > I try to code per the png. I don't know what it is call, therefore I > cannot search LSR. That note is a "breve" -- the length of two whole notes. You can use \breve for the length, as in fis\breve ~ fis1 However, the boxy notehead in your png is not the current style of writing that note (which is as a whole note with bars left and right). What you have there is the "Petrucci" style. You can still achieve the boxy notehead by overriding the notehead style for that one note: \override NoteHead #'style = #'petrucci fis\breve ~ \revert NoteHead #'style fis1 -- Tim Roberts, t...@probo.com Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can anyone help to code what is in png.
On 8/08/2012, at 5:12 am, Tim Roberts wrote: > However, the boxy notehead in your png is not the current style of writing > that note (which is as a whole note with bars left and right). What you have > there is the "Petrucci" style. You can still achieve the boxy notehead by > overriding the notehead style for that one note: > > \override NoteHead #'style = #'petrucci > fis\breve ~ > \revert NoteHead #'style > fis1 If the only change wanted in notehead style is square breves, then \override NoteHead #'style = #'baroque is simpler, since you can just leave it on. Best wishes, Matthew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to get a (rhythmic) dot to follow a barline
On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:20 PM, David G wrote: > I would like to put a dot after the barline to show (something like) a > crotchet tied to a quaver - or according to > http://ranumspanat.com/jacquet_dots.htm subtly different(!) > > It's more clear in this Beethoven string quartet: > http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/2/28/IMSLP04769-Beethoven_-_String_Quartet_No.15_Dover.pdf > e.g. page 17, second system, fourth bar violin 2 and 'cello; fifth bar viola. > > I did find this thread > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-05/msg00122.html from > seven years ago through the search but it didn't seem to come to any solid > conclusion, so I was wondering if things were different now? > > I am not concerned about MIDI output etc., so I would be happy to use an > invisible rest and insert the dot as an "independent" object if possible? In > a broader sense, that means being able to insert an arbitrary object. Any > help/pointing me to the right part of documentation would be greatly > appreciated. I'm pretty sure I've done this in the past by simply replacing the notehead font with the dot (maybe a period, I can't remember) and not print the stem or flag. You might want to look into this method, it might get what you want far more easily. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to get a (rhythmic) dot to follow a barline
2012/8/8 james :
>
> On Aug 6, 2012, at 12:20 PM, David G wrote:
>
> I would like to put a dot after the barline to show (something like) a
> crotchet tied to a quaver - or according to
> http://ranumspanat.com/jacquet_dots.htm subtly different(!)
>
> It's more clear in this Beethoven string quartet:
> http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/2/28/IMSLP04769-Beethoven_-_String_Quartet_No.15_Dover.pdf
> e.g. page 17, second system, fourth bar violin 2 and 'cello; fifth bar
> viola.
>
> I did find this thread
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-05/msg00122.html from
> seven years ago through the search but it didn't seem to come to any solid
> conclusion, so I was wondering if things were different now?
>
> I am not concerned about MIDI output etc., so I would be happy to use an
> invisible rest and insert the dot as an "independent" object if possible? In
> a broader sense, that means being able to insert an arbitrary object. Any
> help/pointing me to the right part of documentation would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
> I'm pretty sure I've done this in the past by simply replacing the notehead
> font with the dot (maybe a period, I can't remember) and not print the stem
> or flag. You might want to look into this method, it might get what you want
> far more easily.
>
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As James suggested (using a functio):
\version "2.15.39"
tieToDotted =
#(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?)
#{
\once \override Tie #'transparent = ##t
$music
\once \autoBeamOff
\once \override NoteHead #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob)
(let* ((staff-pos (ly:grob-property grob 'staff-position))
(staff-space (ly:staff-symbol-staff-space grob)))
(ly:stencil-translate-axis
(ly:font-get-glyph (ly:grob-default-font grob) "dots.dot")
(if (even? staff-pos)
(/ staff-space 3)
0) Y)))
\once \override NoteHead #'Y-extent =
#(ly:make-unpure-pure-container
ly:grob::stencil-height
(lambda (grob start end) (ly:grob::stencil-height grob)))
\once \override NoteHead #'X-extent = #'(-1 . 1)
\once \override Stem #'stencil = ##f
\once \override Flag #'stencil = ##f
#})
\relative c' {
cis dis e \tieToDotted fis~
fis8 fis \tieToDotted gis4~ gis8 fis gis4
cis1
}
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LP users, I encounter compile error from init.ly. Can anyone experience this before? Detail of the error . Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.14.2 [definities-1159.ly]... Processing `D:/mingtsang-2/lied-1159/definities-1159.ly' Parsing... C:/Program Files (x86)/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly/init.ly:37:0: error: syntax error, unexpected SCM_TOKEN #(if (and (ly:get-option 'old-relative) error: failed files: "D:/mingtsang-2/lied-1159/definities-1159.ly" Exited with return code 1. Blessing in+, Ming. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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MING TSANG writes: > LP users, > > I encounter compile error from init.ly. Can anyone experience this > before? > > > Detail of the error > . > > Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.14.2 [definities-1159.ly]... > Processing `D:/mingtsang-2/lied-1159/definities-1159.ly' > Parsing... > C:/Program Files > (x86)/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly/init.ly:37:0: error: > syntax error, unexpected SCM_TOKEN > #(if (and (ly:get-option 'old-relative) > error: failed files: "D:/mingtsang-2/lied-1159/definities-1159.ly" > Exited with return code 1. A syntax error in definities-1159.ly extends beyond the end of file and thus reaches into init.ly from where definities-1159.ly is loaded. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can anyone help to code what is in png.
David Kastrup, Tim Roberts & Matthew Collett: Thank you for all your help. I added \once to your suggestion and it works perfectly (very similar to the original). \once\override NoteHead #'style = #'baroque fis\breve(s2*2 s4 fis1) Blessing in+, Ming ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re:
Am 08.08.2012 02:18, schrieb MING TSANG: I encounter compile error from init.ly. Can anyone experience this before? Detail of the error . Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.14.2 [definities-1159.ly]... Processing `D:/mingtsang-2/lied-1159/definities-1159.ly' Parsing... C:/Program Files (x86)/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ly/init.ly:37:0: error: syntax error, unexpected SCM_TOKEN #(if (and (ly:get-option 'old-relative) error: failed files: "D:/mingtsang-2/lied-1159/definities-1159.ly" Exited with return code 1. Blessing in+, Ming. this document describes the most common errors: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/usage-big-page#apparent-error-in-_002e_002e_002fly_002finit_002ely hth Eluze ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
finger stroke position
Is it possible to make the left bar look like the right bar below?
Specifically, there is a clash with the triple number even though I specified:
StrokeFinger #'add-stem-support = ##t
and I would like the finger strokes to lineup vertically rather than following
the note height.
Using markup is a hack because the distance between notes can change and then
the spacing in the markup has to be manually adjusted.
==
\version "2.15.41"
\language english
#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
#(set-global-staff-size 25)
fl = \set fingeringOrientations = #'(left)
sfu = \set strokeFingerOrientations = #'(up)
sfd = \set strokeFingerOrientations = #'(down)
P = \rightHandFinger #1
I = \rightHandFinger #2
M = \rightHandFinger #3
A = \rightHandFinger #4
patternA = \relative c'' {
\new Voice = "patternA" \repeat volta 1 {
\fl
\times 2/3 { \sfd 8 [ \sfu ] }
\repeat unfold 2 { \times 2/3 { c, [ c' e ] } } c,4 |
\times 2/3 { \sfd 8 [ ^\markup{ \fontsize #1
\override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \italic \center-column{ "m a" "i m" } } e ] }
\repeat unfold 2 { \times 2/3 { c, [ c' e ] } } c,4 |
} % Voice
} % patternA
\score {
<<
\override Score.Fingering #'font-size = #-3
\override Score.StrokeFinger #'font-size = #0.5
\override Score.StrokeFinger #'add-stem-support = ##t
\override Score.StaffSymbol #'staff-space = #1.4
\context Voice {
\patternA
}
>>
} % score
% Local Variables: %
% tab-width: 4 %
% compile-command: "lilypond --ps arpeggio_patterns.ly" %
% End: %
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Re: How to get a (rhythmic) dot to follow a barline
On 06/08/12 20:20, David G wrote: I would like to put a dot after the barline to show (something like) a crotchet tied to a quaver - or according to http://ranumspanat.com/jacquet_dots.htm subtly different(!) It's more clear in this Beethoven string quartet: http://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/2/28/IMSLP04769-Beethoven_-_String_Quartet_No.15_Dover.pdf e.g. page 17, second system, fourth bar violin 2 and 'cello; fifth bar viola. I did find this thread http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-05/msg00122.html from seven years ago through the search but it didn't seem to come to any solid conclusion, so I was wondering if things were different now? I am not concerned about MIDI output etc., so I would be happy to use an invisible rest and insert the dot as an "independent" object if possible? In a broader sense, that means being able to insert an arbitrary object. Any help/pointing me to the right part of documentation would be greatly appreciated. You could put a dotted note there and make everything except the dot invisible: \once \override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t \once \override Stem #'transparent = ##t \once \override Flag #'transparent = ##t \once \override Accidental #'transparent = ##t \once \override NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: finger stroke position
pabuhr wrote > > > … > and I would like the finger strokes to lineup vertically rather than > following > the note height. > > you can try \override Score.StrokeFinger #'staff-padding = #5 hth Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/finger-stroke-position-tp53328p53856.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
