Re: Combining lyrics lines
Reedmace Star wrote: > > > The layout overrides may still be useful for scores where there is > occasional small overlap between the voices, though. > > I wonder how this would look like! cheers Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Combining-lyrics-lines-tp33510107p33521782.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Combining lyrics lines
* 2012-03-17 08:47 +0100 -Eluze:
> Reedmace Star wrote:
> > The layout overrides may still be useful for scores where there is
> > occasional small overlap between the voices, though.
>
> I wonder how this would look like!
Well, like this:
\version "2.14.2"
\layout {
\context {
\Lyrics
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'nonstaff-nonstaff-spacing
#'minimum-distance = ##f
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'nonstaff-unrelatedstaff-spacing
#'minumum-distance = ##f
\override LyricText #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-0.6 . 2.0)
}
}
aliceSings = \markup { \smallCaps "Alice" }
eveSings = \markup { \smallCaps "Eve" }
<<
\new Staff <<
\new Voice = "alice" {
f'4^\aliceSings g' r2 |
s1 |
f'4^\aliceSings g' r2 |
s1 | \break
% ...
\voiceOne
s2 a'8^\aliceSings a' b'4 |
\oneVoice
g'1
}
\new Voice = "eve" {
s1 |
a'2^\eveSings g' |
s1 |
a'2^\eveSings g'
% ...
\voiceTwo
f'4^\eveSings a'8 g' f'4 e' |
\oneVoice
s1
}
>>
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "alice" \lyricmode {
may -- be
sec -- ond
% ...
Shut up, you fool!
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "eve" \lyricmode {
that the
words are
% ...
…and then I was like–
}
>>
In the first line, Alice and Eve alternate strictly in singing, so their
lyrics get collapsed:
ALICE EVE ALICE EVE
maybe that the second words are
After the manual line break, Alice cuts off Eve with a bit of overlap.
Their lyrics stay on different lines, which makes sense:
EVE ALICE
Shut up, you fool!
...and then I was like-
Best regards,
RS
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Re: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?)
- Original Message - From: "Wilbert Berendsen" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 8:40 PM Subject: LilyPond in/not in Windows PATH (Re: Point-and-click on Frescobaldi?) Op Thu, 15 Mar 2012 07:36:33 -0400 Father Gordon Gilbert schreef: For whatever reason, Fresco was not showing the full path to LilyPond. Never had this problem before, but when I put it in there, all worked! Frescobaldi just tries if 'lilypond.exe' (or 'lilypond-windows.exe', which does not open a console window) can be found in the operating system's PATH. If not, you should open the preferences, select the 'lilypond' entry in the list and click 'Edit'. There, specify the full path to the lilypond-windows.exe program. But in upcoming Frescobaldi 2.0.5 I have added some additional logic to look for LilyPond in other locations, even if they are not in the PATH. Currently "C:\Program Files\LilyPond\usr\bin" is searched, and I can add more (need to test current git on Windows with newer LilyPond versions yet). -- Wilbert Berendsen (http://www.wilbertberendsen.nl) Clearly for windows only, but an alternative is to look in the program files directory for the shortcut. c# code that does this is: string ProgMenu = Environment.GetFolderPath(Environment.SpecialFolder.ProgramFiles); string [] LilyDirs = Directory.GetDirectories(ProgMenu, "*lily*"); -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
musical logic: what dynamic after the repeat (picture attached)?
Hello list, What dynamic is in measure 3 after the repeat? p or f? And yes, I know it is better to write something explicit than implicit. I personally would write a new dynamic sign after ||: but how to interpret it if somebody did it like in the picture? Nils<>___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: musical logic: what dynamic after the repeat (picture attached)?
- Original Message - From: "Nils" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:30 AM Subject: musical logic: what dynamic after the repeat (picture attached)? Hello list, What dynamic is in measure 3 after the repeat? p or f? And yes, I know it is better to write something explicit than implicit. I personally would write a new dynamic sign after ||: but how to interpret it if somebody did it like in the picture? Piano. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Setting the width of system-starter curly braces
Dear List,
I have four horns playing in an orchestra like this:
\new GrandStaff <<
\set GrandStaff.instrumentName = #"Corni"
\set GrandStaff.shortInstrumentName = #"Cor."
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"I"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"I"
\corI
}
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"II"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"II"
\corII
}
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"III"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"III"
\corIII
}
\new Staff {
\set Staff.instrumentName = #"IV"
\set Staff.shortInstrumentName = #"IV"
\corIV
}
>>
Unfortunately the curly brace created for these four instruments is way too
wide. Is there a way to shrink the vertical size of the curly brace for the
GrandStaff (so that it would have the same width as the curly brace of a
GrandStaff consisting of only two instruments)?
Thank you,
Ádám
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Re: Two questions about vertical layout and lyrics spacing
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:31 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > The first one, lyrics.png, shows a page created by both 2.12 and 2.14. Thanks > to the smaller space between a staff and its lyrics, the systems now become > less high. This is often a good thing, as it allows to get more on a page. > However, this is one of the cases where it leads to a lot of empty room > between system. What would be a good way to make the overall appearance a bit > lighter by un-squeezing the systems? > > Essentially, I would like to make the basic line height of lyrics a bit > bigger, while retaining the small minimum-height and keeping stretchability of > the padding around lyrics the same as that of system-system-spacing, so it's > a proportional stretching. I would try reducing system-system-spacing #'stretchability - this should force Lily to spread more of the extra space between staves. > Example #2, padding.png, shows a piece which has a large variation in staff > height, because there are either two lines of lyrics to a staff or none at > all. As lilypond tries to keep an even system-system-distance, the result is > now that the first two systems on the first page are so tight together that it > is hard to make out which text belongs to which staff. > The second page shows a similar, if not as extreme, effect; systems 2 and 3 > are rather heave with all their lyrics, but they appear closer together than > the less heavy systems 1 and 4 to their respective neighbours. > > My first thought is now of course to alter system-system-spacing #'padding, > but I have not found a way to make this equal between all systems on one page > (except if I enabled ragged-bottom). What would you recommend? > > I know lilypond adheres strongly to some long-evolved engraving standards, yet > the described pages look unbalanced to me. I agree, it doesn't look good at all. I'm also afraid that the current vertical spacing system - as far as i understand it - doesn't allow for an elegant and flexible solution. I'm thinking how this can be improved; i'm pretty sure a good solution exists. As a workaround, i'd try inserting a high blank markup where the distance should be increased (or modifying Y-extent property of one of the objects). hope this helps, Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Combining lyrics lines
Reedmace Star wrote: > > * 2012-03-17 08:47 +0100 -Eluze: >> Reedmace Star wrote: >> > The layout overrides may still be useful for scores where there is >> > occasional small overlap between the voices, though. >> >> I wonder how this would look like! > > Well, like this: > … > looks good! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Combining-lyrics-lines-tp33510107p33524418.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Variables: structure vs layout
At Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:57:35 +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:35 PM, James Harkins wrote: > > I'm getting a bit confused about the use of variables to reflect the > > structure of the music, or the distribution of notes between different > > voices etc. > > > > After it goes to two staves, I have drones and "bass" notes in one staff. > > The "bass" (though not very low) is there only sometimes. I see a couple of > > options to write it in ly: > > Have you tried using \partcombine on bass and drones? Ooh, that looks nice. I might give that a shot. Thank you! James -- James Harkins /// dewdrop world jamshar...@dewdrop-world.net http://www.dewdrop-world.net "Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal." -- Whitman blog: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words audio clips: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/audio more audio: http://soundcloud.com/dewdrop_world/tracks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Aleatoric / modern notation
At Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:33:30 -0500, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Excellent work! > > I'm glad you think so! BTW, I didn't mention before, but it looks like I'm going to be using that feathered-beam function, derived from work by David, and this box-notation function, also coming from David's work. So David -- I guess I owe you a beer or three, or something. Thanks! James -- James Harkins /// dewdrop world jamshar...@dewdrop-world.net http://www.dewdrop-world.net "Come said the Muse, Sing me a song no poet has yet chanted, Sing me the universal." -- Whitman blog: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/words audio clips: http://www.dewdrop-world.net/audio more audio: http://soundcloud.com/dewdrop_world/tracks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Two questions about vertical layout and lyrics spacing
Frank Steinmetzger gmx.de> writes:
> [...] However, this is one of the cases where it leads to a lot of
> empty room between system. What would be a good way to make the
> overall appearance a bit lighter by un-squeezing the systems?
>
> Essentially, I would like to make the basic line height of
> lyrics a bit bigger, while retaining the small minimum-height
> and keeping stretchability of the padding around lyrics the
> same as that of system-system-spacing, so it's a proportional
> stretching.
>
The spacing concept in version 2.14 tries to make the spacing between
staves close to their ideal spacing, regardless of lyrics in between,
giving lines of lyrics only the space they need. It seems that for
choral music, the staves should be more flexible, so :
\layout { \context {
\ChoirStaff
\override StaffGrouper #'staff-staff-spacing #'stretchability = #30
} } % The default stretchability is only 5
> As lilypond tries to keep an even system-system-distance, the result is
> now that the first two systems on the first page are so tight together
> that it is hard to make out which text belongs to which staff.
> [...]
> My first thought is of course to alter system-system-spacing #'padding,
> but I have not found a way to make this equal between all systems
>
That seems like the right thought. The space between systems without
lyrics in between is very stretchy (60) so you might reduce that:
\paper { system-system-spacing #'padding = #4
system-system-spacing #'stretchability = #30 }
or possibly the adjustment above to ChoirStaff is enough.
> I know lilypond adheres strongly to some long-evolved engraving standards,
> yet the described pages look unbalanced to me.
After the vertical spacing system was reprogrammed, the adhesion to those
standards needed to be re-done. Some of the history of the re-adjusting
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2010-10/msg00451.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-10/msg00726.html
shows input from people setting piano and orchestral music, but not much
from choral music.
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