Re: Abbreviation for markup?
Thomas Morley writes: > Hi David, > > 2012/1/30 David Kastrup : > [...] >> We have established that it does not make sense to divert work setting >> up generic channels when there is, at the current point of time, a >> single taker and not even enough to go around to support him. > > How to do it different? Should every person, interested in supporting > you, contact you offlist and ask for your bank account? Well yes, that would be the procedure for larger and/or regular payments. Smaller amounts can go through PayPal for now. > [...] Let me reinsert a relevant part of the [...] here for the sake of our readers: >>> But I'm disappointed about your statements about experienced users. >>> You're right, I'm quite sure I could have solved Helge's problem. >>> But I decided to answer to Brent because he was first. The rest of the >>> day I visited a good friend being in her very last period of lifetime >>> at the hospital. >>> >>> So - very british - I'm not amuzed. >> And I don't think that any number of postings along the line "Dude, how >> come you expect something from me? I, as opposed to you freaks, have a >> life." will really turn the balance to the better. Wouldn't you say that this is what your passage boils down to? Mind you, there is nothing wrong with you having a life. But there would be nothing wrong with me having a life, either. And eating, heating and housing is useful for that. And part of your life, apparently, is filled with music. And keeping LilyPond in good shape is useful for that. > In an other mail of this thread you wrote: > > "Knowledge organizes in pyramids. And one can't build those without the > intermediate layers." > > Will it turn the things better if you alienate all people not > satisfying your expectations? I am not enough of a diplomat to win a single person-to-person battle in the fight to get people to put their money rather than their foot where their mouth is. And even if I were, I would not be getting the equivalent of the time and stomach aches and sleepless nights I spend on them. I can be pretty sure that everyone I start arguing with is lost to my cause. But I learn to lose in more embarrassing ways. I don't have the resources to win a single battle in my fight for funding LilyPond development. But that is less important than winning the war, and that is won in the hearts of the bystanders. I need more of them than I can address individually. How many battles did Gandhi win? I've been a gentleman about funding while being maintainer of AUCTeX (and, at some time, its prime developer). That did not even by far get me back the travelling fees for conferences where I taught people how to make use of the stuff I gave them. You don't beat a sense of economic decency into enough people by being discrete and humble. There is nothing new with that: I again refer to Wilde http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/DevFri.shtml> It is a bit of a painful spectacle for those that actually do the right thing without prodding. I wish they were not outnumbered as severely, but then I have to work with what I got. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Using other NoteHeads with \harmonicByFret?
Am 29.01.2012 15:54, schrieb Peter Crighton:
Hello y'all,
Is there an easy way to use other NoteHeads (I need harmonic-mixed)
with \harmonicByFret, other than overriding the NoteHead right after
every use of \harmonicByFret? I guess I could write my own
\harmonicByFret function, but I can't even find the existing one to
look how it is written.
\harmonicBy... is defined in ly/music-functions-init.ly; based on this
definition, something like
mixedHarmonicByFret = #(define-music-function (parser location fret
music) (number? ly:music?)
(_i "Convert @var{music} into mixed harmonics; the resulting notes
resemble
harmonics played on a fretted instrument by touching the strings above
@var{fret
}.")
(let* ((fret (number->string fret))
(pitch (fret->pitch fret)))
(make-sequential-music
(list
#{
\override TabNoteHead #'stencil =
#(tab-note-head::print-custom-fret-label fret)
\override NoteHead #'style = #'harmonic-mixed
#}
(make-harmonic
(calc-harmonic-pitch pitch music))
#{
\revert TabNoteHead #'stencil
#}
should do the job, but I didn't test this.
HTH,
Marc
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Re: Chordmode et frescobaldi
C'est je pense dû à un bug de Lilypond: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/20 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022 :Tu peux 'voter' pour que le problème soit corrigé en cliquant dans la colonne 'Star' pour ce problème Jean-Alexis On 30 janv. 2012, at 17:26, simon wrote: > Bonjour à tous, > > J'ai une drôle d'erreur quand je saisis sur frescobaldi un accord généré par > le \chordmode > > "Firefox ne sait pas ouvrir cette adresse car le protocole (textedit) n'est > associé à aucun programme." > > Que faut-il faire pour corriger cela selon vous? Avec les notes ça marche, > mais le chordmode le perturbe... > > Bonne journée > > ___ > liste de diffusion lilypond-user-fr > lilypond-user...@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path
I try to follow the instructions on this page: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/extending/scheme-sandbox.html Unfortunately I get an error message, when I try to start guile.exe: ERROR: In procedure primitive-load-path: ERROR: Unable to find file "ice-9/boot-9.scm" in load path The PATH contains the path to Lilypond: "C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin". So I am sure that I use this copy of Lilypond. The documentation mentions that I have to add an environment variable C:\> set GUILE_LOAD_PATH="../usr/shr/guile/1.8" -- same error C:\> set GUILE_LOAD_PATH="C:/Program Files (x86)/LilyPond/usr/shr/guile/1.8" -- same error Okay, I assume there's a typo in the tutorial. Let's use this one: C:\> set GUILE_LOAD_PATH="C:/Program Files (x86)/LilyPond/usr/share/guile/1.8" -- same error C:\> set GUILE_LOAD_PATH="C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\share\guile\1.8" -- same error Let's check if the directory in GUILE_LOAD_PATH is valid: C:\> dir /b %GUILE_LOAD_PATH%\ice-9\bo* boot-9.scm Now I am convinced that the GUILE_LOAD_PATH is correct. But I failed to start the GUILE prompt. Is there something that I have missed? Is there a way to learn Scheme with my Lilypond 2.14.2? Regards, Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chordmode et frescobaldi
Jean-Alexis Montignies-2 wrote: > > C'est je pense dû à un bug de Lilypond: > > https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/20 > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022 :Tu peux 'voter' > pour que le problème soit corrigé en cliquant dans la colonne 'Star' pour > ce problème > >> Bonjour à tous, >> >> J'ai une drôle d'erreur quand je saisis sur frescobaldi un accord généré >> par le \chordmode >> >> "Firefox ne sait pas ouvrir cette adresse car le protocole (textedit) >> n'est associé à aucun programme." >> >> Que faut-il faire pour corriger cela selon vous? Avec les notes ça >> marche, mais le chordmode le perturbe... >> > hello you are on an English speaking list and the chance to get an answer in your language is very small! you can also try http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/ or frescobaldi. Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-Chordmode-et-frescobaldi-tp33230493p33232129.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Abbreviation for markup?
Hi David, 2012/1/30 David Kastrup : > Thomas Morley writes: > >> Hi David, >> >> 2012/1/30 David Kastrup : >> [...] >>> We have established that it does not make sense to divert work setting >>> up generic channels when there is, at the current point of time, a >>> single taker and not even enough to go around to support him. >> >> How to do it different? Should every person, interested in supporting >> you, contact you offlist and ask for your bank account? > > Well yes, that would be the procedure for larger and/or regular > payments. Smaller amounts can go through PayPal for now. So please expect a private mail from me. > >> [...] > > Let me reinsert a relevant part of the [...] here for the sake of our > readers: > But I'm disappointed about your statements about experienced users. You're right, I'm quite sure I could have solved Helge's problem. But I decided to answer to Brent because he was first. The rest of the day I visited a good friend being in her very last period of lifetime at the hospital. So - very british - I'm not amuzed. > >>> And I don't think that any number of postings along the line "Dude, how >>> come you expect something from me? I, as opposed to you freaks, have a >>> life." will really turn the balance to the better. > > Wouldn't you say that this is what your passage boils down to? No, because of "as opposed to you freaks". I never feeled like this and I never said, wrote or expressed it in any way. > Mind > you, there is nothing wrong with you having a life. But there would be > nothing wrong with me having a life, either. And eating, heating and > housing is useful for that. Of course! > And part of your life, apparently, is > filled with music. And keeping LilyPond in good shape is useful for > that. No doubt! > >> In an other mail of this thread you wrote: >> >> "Knowledge organizes in pyramids. And one can't build those without the >> intermediate layers." >> >> Will it turn the things better if you alienate all people not >> satisfying your expectations? > > I am not enough of a diplomat to win a single person-to-person battle in > the fight to get people to put their money rather than their foot where > their mouth is. And even if I were, I would not be getting the > equivalent of the time and stomach aches and sleepless nights I spend on > them. Well, your lack of diplomacy is well known. :) And in most cases I've no problem with it. But you tend to generalize with your remarks about users or sub-groups of them. This is nearly never helpful or even correct. > > I can be pretty sure that everyone I start arguing with is lost to my > cause. But I learn to lose in more embarrassing ways. I don't have the > resources to win a single battle in my fight for funding LilyPond > development. But that is less important than winning the war, and that > is won in the hearts of the bystanders. I need more of them than I can > address individually. How many battles did Gandhi win? > > I've been a gentleman about funding while being maintainer of AUCTeX > (and, at some time, its prime developer). That did not even by far get > me back the travelling fees for conferences where I taught people how to > make use of the stuff I gave them. You don't beat a sense of economic > decency into enough people by being discrete and humble. I'm afraid you're right. > There is > nothing new with that: I again refer to Wilde > > http://www.eastoftheweb.com/short-stories/UBooks/DevFri.shtml> BTW, german translation: http://www.besuche-oscar-wilde.de/werke/deutsch/maerchen/opferwillige_freund.htm > > It is a bit of a painful spectacle for those that actually do the right > thing without prodding. I wish they were not outnumbered as severely, > but then I have to work with what I got. > > -- > David Kastrup Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chordmode et frescobaldi
Jean-Alexis Montignies writes: > C'est je pense dû à un bug de Lilypond: > > https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/20 > http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022 :Tu peux > voter' pour que le problème soit corrigé en cliquant dans la colonne > Star' pour ce problème If I understand the problem correctly (my C++ may be bad, but is better than my French), a fix has been uploaded as a patch to http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022>. If it goes through the regular channels, it will likely be in LilyPond in about a week of time and might still make it into 2.16. In case you were wondering about the amount of work it took: more than 20€ by Paypal would have to be called exuberant, unless it will require large amounts of red tape to get this accepted. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chordmode et frescobaldi
Sorry, wrong list as I was replying to the lilypond-user-fr to which I'm also subscribed. Jean-Alexis > you are on an English speaking list and the chance to get an answer in your > language is very small! > > you can also try http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/ or > frescobaldi. > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Multiple notes over same lyric
Hello, I'm trying to put multiple notes *over* the same lyric. What I mean can be seen in this PDF: http://www.npm.org/Chants/assets/Gloria.pdf The word earth for example has two notes over the text itself. A few more melismatic examples on page 2 also. When I try to accomplish this, it seems that the second note gets pushed right till it's after the end of the text, ending up with a long slur before the remaining notes are close together. (By the way I'm mimicking the style in the PDF to some extent: no stems, no barlines, cadenzaOff, a few old markings via gregorian.ly). I have tried many of the examples from the lilypond manuals (different lyric entry modes, associated voices, using slurs, manual lyric durations, etc.) with no luck. Am I missing something simple here? Any ideas? Thank you! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Multiple-notes-over-same-lyric-tp33232967p33232967.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multiple notes over same lyric
On 01/30/2012 09:28 PM, mdspencer wrote: > I have tried many of the examples from the lilypond manuals > (different lyric entry modes, associated voices, using slurs, manual > lyric durations, etc.) with no luck. Am I missing something simple > here? Any ideas? The problem is not with aligning the lyrics, it’s with getting the noteheads to be so close together. Since there is a slur between the notes, the lyrics ought to align correctly using associated voices, but you’ll need to tweak the notehead placement. ~Chris -- Chris Maden, text nerd http://crism.maden.org/ > “Be wary of great leaders. Hope that there are many, many small leaders.” — Pete Seeger ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Multiple notes over same lyric
Greetings
You wrote...
+++
I'm trying to put multiple notes *over* the same lyric. What I mean can
be seen in this PDF: http://www.npm.org/Chants/assets/Gloria.pdf
The word earth for example has two notes over the text itself. A few
more melismatic examples on page 2 also. When I try to accomplish this,
it seems that the second note gets pushed right till it's after the end
of the text, ending up with a long slur before the remaining notes are
close together.
(By the way I'm mimicking the style in the PDF to some extent: no stems,
no barlines, cadenzaOff, a few old markings via gregorian.ly).
I have tried many of the examples from the lilypond manuals (different
lyric entry modes, associated voices, using slurs, manual lyric
durations, etc.) with no luck. Am I missing something simple here? Any
ideas?
+++
This might help - once you include stem removers and things.
%%
Music = \relative c'
{
c4 c c c c c c c c c c( b) c c c c c d( e) e
}
Words = \lyricmode {
Glor -- y to God in the high -- est and on earth peace to peo -- ple of
good will.
}
%%
note the positioning of the ( and ) corresponding with the relevant
melismas in the text
Hope this helps,
Regards
Bill
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Re: Multiple notes over same lyric
Hi Chris,
I guess maybe I'm confused then. When I leave off the associated lyrics,
then the note spacing is compact, just like I wish. When I put the lyrics
in, they push over some notes, but the other note spaces are not changed.
Here's a quick example of what I mean:
%%%
\include "gregorian.ly"
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\remove "Time_signature_engraver"
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
}
\context {
\Voice
\override Stem #'length = #0
}
\context {
\Score
\remove "Bar_number_engraver"
timing = ##t
barAlways = ##f
}
}
chant = {
\clef treble \cadenzaOn \autoBeamOff
g'( a' b') b'~ b'
}
chantLyrics = \lyricmode { Test -- ing }
\score {
\new Staff <<
\new Voice = "chantVoice" \chant
>>
}
\score {
\new Staff <<
\new Voice = "chantVoice" \chant
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "chantVoice" { \chantLyrics }
>>
}
%
The first score/staff has nice tight spacing. Once I add the lyrics, the
notes not associated with the lyric get pushed over.
Christopher R. Maden wrote:
>
> On 01/30/2012 09:28 PM, mdspencer wrote:
>> I have tried many of the examples from the lilypond manuals
>> (different lyric entry modes, associated voices, using slurs, manual
>> lyric durations, etc.) with no luck. Am I missing something simple
>> here? Any ideas?
>
> The problem is not with aligning the lyrics, it’s with getting the
> noteheads to be so close together. Since there is a slur between the
> notes, the lyrics ought to align correctly using associated voices, but
> you’ll need to tweak the notehead placement.
>
> ~Chris
> --
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> “Be wary of great leaders. Hope that there are many, many small
> leaders.” — Pete Seeger
>
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Re: Chordmode et frescobaldi
On 12-01-30 02:26 PM, David Kastrup wrote: Jean-Alexis Montignies writes: C'est je pense dû à un bug de Lilypond: https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues/20 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022 :Tu peux voter' pour que le problème soit corrigé en cliquant dans la colonne Star' pour ce problème If I understand the problem correctly (my C++ may be bad, but is better than my French), a fix has been uploaded as a patch to http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022>. If it goes through the regular channels, it will likely be in LilyPond in about a week of time and might still make it into 2.16. In case you were wondering about the amount of work it took: more than 20€ by Paypal would have to be called exuberant, unless it will require large amounts of red tape to get this accepted. It should be on the countdown tomorrow (Tuesday) and ready for pushing Thursday. Cheers, Colin -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: "V.S." on page turns
Quoting Shevek : I'm playing around with the page turn engraver, and occasionally it will opt to have a page with only one or two systems. It would be great if I could add a "V.S." indication in such cases, but I'm not sure how to do it without hardcoding the page turns. Is there a way to do this? I'm afraid it's not supported. You can find the discussion here (see the end of the thread): http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-02/msg00713.html Also see the documentation for item-interface: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/internals/item_002dinterface "Whether these versions are visible and take up space is determined by the outcome of the break-visibility grob property, which is a function taking a direction (-1, 0 or 1) as an argument. It returns a cons of booleans, signifying whether this grob should be transparent and have no extent." I don't see any indication whether the break is a page break, a page turn or just a line break. I could not find any open issue for that. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Abbreviation for markup?
Thomas Morley writes: > Hi David, > > 2012/1/30 David Kastrup : >> Thomas Morley writes: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> 2012/1/30 David Kastrup : >>> [...] We have established that it does not make sense to divert work setting up generic channels when there is, at the current point of time, a single taker and not even enough to go around to support him. >>> >>> How to do it different? Should every person, interested in supporting >>> you, contact you offlist and ask for your bank account? >> >> Well yes, that would be the procedure for larger and/or regular >> payments. Smaller amounts can go through PayPal for now. > > So please expect a private mail from me. Thanks. >> I am not enough of a diplomat to win a single person-to-person battle >> in the fight to get people to put their money rather than their foot >> where their mouth is. And even if I were, I would not be getting the >> equivalent of the time and stomach aches and sleepless nights I spend >> on them. > > Well, your lack of diplomacy is well known. :) > And in most cases I've no problem with it. But you tend to generalize > with your remarks about users or sub-groups of them. This is nearly > never helpful or even correct. In this case, it is likely correct in the vast majority of cases. But a minority proving me wrong would be all it would take to make a difference. > I'm afraid you're right. I'd love to live in a world proving me wrong more often. All the best -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
