Re: lyrics between staves & repeats

2011-07-31 Thread Xavier Scheuer 
On 31 July 2011 07:10, ehzone  wrote:
>
> Xavier, let me first say thank you for the response.
>
> When I process this file with lilypond, I do get the lyrics between
> the staves and you are correct that the lyrics aren't aligned to the
> music.
> When I attempt to align the lyrics to the music by uncommenting the
> \lyricsto "first" line as you suggest then the 2nd verse of lyrics
> does align but it does so starting at the second quarter note of the
> measure and not the first; the lyrics are off by one quarter note.
> The exact code I used is posted below.  How do I get lilypond to align
> the 2nd verse starting on the first note of the measure?

Right, I forgot about this (and I did not try my own suggested code
with \lyricsto ).
Remove \lyricsto and use associatedVoice instead.  Now it works (this
time I tested it!).

 Snippet

  % […]
  << { sea sea sea sea }
\new Lyrics = "lyricsSecond" \with {
  % as suggested by XS
  alignBelowContext = "lyricsFirst"
  associatedVoice = "first"
} {
  mi  mi  mi  mi
}
  >> |
  d d d d
  % […]



Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: lyrics between staves & repeats

2011-07-31 Thread ehzone 
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:
> Remove \lyricsto and use associatedVoice instead.  Now it works (this
> time I tested it!).

Perfect, thank you very much.  I would never have figured this out on my own.

How could I have this included in the documentation as a "snippet"?

regards,
Eh.

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RE: lyrics between staves & repeats

2011-07-31 Thread James Lowe 
Hello,

From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org 
[lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of ehzone 
[ehz...@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 July 2011 16:39
To: Xavier Scheuer
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: lyrics between staves & repeats

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:
> Remove \lyricsto and use associatedVoice instead.  Now it works (this
> time I tested it!).

Perfect, thank you very much.  I would never have figured this out on my own.

How could I have this included in the documentation as a "snippet"?



http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/contributor/adding-and-editing-snippets.html

James
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RE: lyrics between staves & repeats

2011-07-31 Thread James Lowe 
Hello,

From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org 
[lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] on behalf of ehzone 
[ehz...@gmail.com]
Sent: 31 July 2011 16:39
To: Xavier Scheuer
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: lyrics between staves & repeats

On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 3:41 AM, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:
> Remove \lyricsto and use associatedVoice instead.  Now it works (this
> time I tested it!).

Perfect, thank you very much.  I would never have figured this out on my own.

How could I have this included in the documentation as a "snippet"?



Or more generally if you are not inclined to dive into the development ;)

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/html/whatsthis.html

James
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Re: lyrics between staves & repeats

2011-07-31 Thread Xavier Scheuer 
On 31 July 2011 17:39, ehzone  wrote:
>
> Perfect, thank you very much.  I would never have figured this out on my own.
>
> How could I have this included in the documentation as a "snippet"?

Actually my suggestion is an adaptation of a snippet one can find in
NR 2.1.2 Techniques specific to lyrics > Lyrics and repeats
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics#lyrics-and-repeats

Only the "alignBelowContext" is an addition for your specific case.

Cheers,
Xavier

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Transparent Measure

2011-07-31 Thread Shelby 
I'd like to be able to insert a transparent measure (remove the staff lines) at 
any point in a staff.

I've tried:

\overrride StaffSymbol #'transparent = ##t

But it only works at the beginning of a Staff, and cannot be changed back to 
engrave the lines.


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Re: More vertical spacing confusion

2011-07-31 Thread Adam Spiers 
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Keith OHara  wrote:
> Adam Spiers  adamspiers.org> writes:
>> I have a piece of music which should easily fit on one page, and
>> indeed does until I change the paper size from A4 to US Letter, at
>> which point the final system spills over onto a second page.
>
> You can
> \paper {
>  system-system-spacing #'basic-distance = 8 % default was 12
>  page-count = #1
>
> The first line because the way you use the rhythmic staff as the first staff
> you don't want that much distance to the system above.
>
> The second line because Lilypond still doesn't break pages properly, so just
> help her.

Thanks very much for the response, although I hope I don't sound too
ungrateful by saying that that wasn't quite the answer I was hoping
for :)

Setting page-count to 1 does indeed get rid of the extra page,
although it also causes warnings:

Preprocessing graphical objects...
programming error: number of pages is out of bounds
continuing, cross fingers
Fitting music on 1 page...
programming error: number of pages is out of bounds
continuing, cross fingers
Drawing systems...

It's a rather unpleasant brute force approach to the problem, and I
would much prefer to understand the details of the vertical spacing
algorithm so that I can control it better when dealing with multiple
pages.

To this end I'd really appreciate if anyone can answer my original
questions regarding the arrow annotations, extent-estimate, mysterious
vertical gaps etc., and also give more information around your
assertion that Lilypond doesn't break pages properly.  Do you mean
there are known bugs specifically with the 2.15.x series, or just with
every version?  Are they likely to be fixed any time soon?

Many thanks again!
Adam

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Re: Transparent Measure

2011-07-31 Thread -Eluze 


Shelby-3 wrote:
> 
> I'd like to be able to insert a transparent measure (remove the staff
> lines) at 
> any point in a staff.
> 
> I've tried:
> 
> \overrride StaffSymbol #'transparent = ##t
> 
> But it only works at the beginning of a Staff, and cannot be changed back
> to 
> engrave the lines.
> 

see \stopStaff and \startStaff.
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Re: More vertical spacing confusion

2011-07-31 Thread Keith OHara 

On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 20:16:33 -0700, Adam Spiers  
wrote:


To this end I'd really appreciate if anyone can answer my original
questions regarding the arrow annotations, extent-estimate, mysterious
vertical gaps etc.,


These I don't know much about.  Anybody else?

I do know they are undocumented debugging output, that somebody though might be 
useful to users.  I do know that the vertical gaps are usually there.  I was 
not surprised by the gaps because Lilypond spreads the systems to fill the 
available vertical space on the page.


and also give more information around your
assertion that Lilypond doesn't break pages properly.


I only meant to assert/confirm what you suspected, that it doesn't page-break 
your specific example properly.


Do you mean there are known bugs specifically with the 2.15.x series,or just 
with every version?


2.15.x are the development versions.  I wouldn't (and I don't) use them except 
to test the new developments.  The stable version is 2.14.2.

The project has a publicly-visible bug tracker at 
 (and takes bug reports at 
bug-lilyp...@gnu.org).  Of course there are known bugs, but I don't see any that 
explains what you see. (I didn't look very hard, though.)

The Lilypond project asks users to isolate their bugs in a minimal example.  
Lilypond tends to have enough technically-savvy, or simply resourceful, users 
who tend to be capable of doing this.


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