Re: Multiple Stanzas in the middle of a piece

2011-04-18 Thread Marek Klein
Is this what you need?

Marek

2011/4/18 Michael Dykes 

> OK, Marek. Thanks a lot. However, I need the lyrics to be between the 2
> staves, and not under the bass stave -- and also, ever since I started
> messing  around with my original file (which did not have the split lyrics),
> the barlines have been off. If you do not mind, please see the original
> file: eis_zn[3].ly and the new one, renamed: eis_zn2.ly Thanks again for
> all your help!
>
>


eis_zn[3].ly
Description: Binary data
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Re: Multiple Stanzas in the middle of a piece

2011-04-18 Thread Michael Dykes
Hullo Marek. Almost perfect. However, I just now realized that for the 3rd
"stanza" the word "Theo -- to -- kos, __" needs to be scored differently
(i.e. with different music). Bascially the music is exactly the same, except
for those words, the "kos" of Theotokos needs to fall on the f2 - the same
f2 that is slurred in the 'other' two 'stanzas.

I just now realized that issue. Is there any way for me to use lilypond to
score the 1 & 3 stanza musically as is (w/ the slur from g(f) - sop, c(a) -
ten, and c(d) - bass) but omit those slurs in the 2nd so that the "kos"
falls on the f - sop, a - ten, and d - bass?

Many thanks for all your help thus far. If I can get this, it will be *exactly
*what I am looking for.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Marek Klein  wrote:

> Is this what you need?
>
> Marek
>
> 2011/4/18 Michael Dykes 
>
>> OK, Marek. Thanks a lot. However, I need the lyrics to be between the 2
>> staves, and not under the bass stave -- and also, ever since I started
>> messing  around with my original file (which did not have the split lyrics),
>> the barlines have been off. If you do not mind, please see the original
>> file: eis_zn[3].ly and the new one, renamed: eis_zn2.ly Thanks again for
>> all your help!
>>
>>
>


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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-18 Thread Michael Dykes
Nick Payne  internode.on.net> writes:


> In the options for Lilypondtool in jEdit (Plugins / Plugin Options 
> /LilypondTool / Commands), do you have the correct path to the Lilypond 
> binary. You should also have the jEdit SideKick plugin installed and the 
> option "Parse on keystroke" checked.
> 
> Nick
> 


Hullo Nick, and thanks. However, I do not know how to find my path to the
Lilypond binary. Could you possibly help me with that? Thanks again.


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Re: Multiple Stanzas in the middle of a piece

2011-04-18 Thread Marek Klein
Hi Michael,

2011/4/18 Michael Dykes 

> Hullo Marek. Almost perfect. However, I just now realized that for the 3rd
> "stanza" the word "Theo -- to -- kos, __" needs to be scored differently
> (i.e. with different music). Bascially the music is exactly the same, except
> for those words, the "kos" of Theotokos needs to fall on the f2 - the same
> f2 that is slurred in the 'other' two 'stanzas.
>
> I just now realized that issue. Is there any way for me to use lilypond to
> score the 1 & 3 stanza musically as is (w/ the slur from g(f) - sop, c(a) -
> ten, and c(d) - bass) but omit those slurs in the 2nd so that the "kos"
> falls on the f - sop, a - ten, and d - bass?
>
> Many thanks for all your help thus far. If I can get this, it will be *exactly
> *what I am looking for.


The solution for this is very well described here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics#divisi-lyrics

HTH
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\key Moves \chords Below Staff

2011-04-18 Thread Christian Eitner
Hello,

I have difficulty understanding this tiny example, which is a
breakdown of my general problem:

{
%\key a \major

<<
\chords
{
a1 c
}
\relative c''
{
a1 c
}
>>
}

Without the \key command, the chords are shown above the staff. With
\key, they are shown below the staff.

I know from other threads that putting \key into a seperate block,
which encloses the melody, solves the problem, but I don't understand
why. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks for your consideration,

Christian

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Re: \key Moves \chords Below Staff

2011-04-18 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 18 April 2011 10:30, Christian Eitner <7enderh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have difficulty understanding this tiny example, which is a
> breakdown of my general problem:
>
> {
> %\key a \major
>
> <<
>\chords
>{
>a1 c
>}
>\relative c''
>{
>a1 c
>}
>>>
> }
>
> Without the \key command, the chords are shown above the staff. With
> \key, they are shown below the staff.
>
> I know from other threads that putting \key into a seperate block,
> which encloses the melody, solves the problem, but I don't understand
> why. Any help would be appreciated.

It is due to implicit context creation.
If you explicit your contexts (Staff, ChordNames) then such problem
would not appear.

As explained in the doc,  \chords { ... }  is a shortcut notation for
  \new ChordNames { \chordmode { ... } } .


\score {
  <<
\new ChordNames {
  \chordmode {
a1 c
  }
}
\new Staff {
  \relative c'' {
\key a \major
a1 c
  }
}
  >>
}


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Re: \key Moves \chords Below Staff

2011-04-18 Thread Christian Eitner
Dear Xavier,

On 18 April 2011 10:40, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:
> It is due to implicit context creation.
> If you explicit your contexts (Staff, ChordNames) then such problem
> would not appear.
>
> As explained in the doc,  \chords { ... }  is a shortcut notation for
>  \new ChordNames { \chordmode { ... } } .
>
>
> \score {
>  <<
>    \new ChordNames {
>      \chordmode {
>        a1 c
>      }
>    }
>    \new Staff {
>      \relative c'' {
>        \key a \major
>        a1 c
>      }
>    }
>  >>
> }

I see. So \key implicitly creates the Staff context before the
ChordNames context, which is why they appear below the staff.

My problem is that a lot of things are going on before I need a few
bars with added chord names. What would be the recommended way to add
these 'in the middle of things'?

Cheers,

Christian

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Re: \key Moves \chords Below Staff

2011-04-18 Thread David Bobroff

On 4/18/2011 9:03 AM, Christian Eitner wrote:

Dear Xavier,

On 18 April 2011 10:40, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:

It is due to implicit context creation.
If you explicit your contexts (Staff, ChordNames) then such problem
would not appear.

As explained in the doc,  \chords { ... }  is a shortcut notation for
  \new ChordNames { \chordmode { ... } } .


\score {
  <<
\new ChordNames {
  \chordmode {
a1 c
  }
}
\new Staff {
  \relative c'' {
\key a \major
a1 c
  }
}
  >>
}

I see. So \key implicitly creates the Staff context before the
ChordNames context, which is why they appear below the staff.

My problem is that a lot of things are going on before I need a few
bars with added chord names. What would be the recommended way to add
these 'in the middle of things'?

Cheers,

Christian

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I would simply use skips:

\version "2.12.3"

{
<<
\chords
{
  s1*2
  a1 c
}
\relative c''
{
  a1 c a c
}
>>
}

Isn't this what you mean?

-David

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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-18 Thread Nick Payne

On 18/04/11 17:47, Michael Dykes wrote:

Nick Payne  internode.on.net>  writes:


In the options for Lilypondtool in jEdit (Plugins / Plugin Options
/LilypondTool / Commands), do you have the correct path to the Lilypond
binary. You should also have the jEdit SideKick plugin installed and the
option "Parse on keystroke" checked.


Hullo Nick, and thanks. However, I do not know how to find my path to the
Lilypond binary. Could you possibly help me with that? Thanks again.


Depends on the operating system. On linux, execute "which lilypond" at a 
command prompt to find the path. On windows, it should be in your path, 
so enter "path" at a command prompt. Other OSs, can't help you.


Nick

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Change the color of ledger lines

2011-04-18 Thread Xavier Scheuer
Hi,

Maybe this question has already been answered but I did not find a
solution while searching through the mailing lists.

  \override NoteHead #'color = #red
changes the color of the note heads but not the color of the ledger
lines.  I tried

  \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red

but it does not work.

Any idea how I could change the color of the ledger lines (ledger lines
only, I do not want to change the whole staff's color).
Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Xavier

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RE: Change the color of ledger lines

2011-04-18 Thread James Lowe
Hello

)-Original Message-
)From: lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org
)[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+james.lowe=datacore@gnu.org] On
)Behalf Of Xavier Scheuer
)Sent: 18 April 2011 10:33
)To: lilypond-user
)Subject: Change the color of ledger lines
)
)Hi,
)
)Maybe this question has already been answered but I did not find a
)solution while searching through the mailing lists.
)
)  \override NoteHead #'color = #red
)changes the color of the note heads but not the color of the ledger lines.  I
)tried
)
)  \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
)
)but it does not work.
)
)Any idea how I could change the color of the ledger lines (ledger lines
)only, I do not want to change the whole staff's color).
)Thanks in advance.
)


\override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red

James

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Re: Change the color of ledger lines

2011-04-18 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 18 April 2011 11:43, James Lowe  wrote:
>
> \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'color = #red
>

Apparently that does not work in the middle of the score (melody) and
AFAIK that would change the color of the whole staff, not only the
ledger lines, as I want.

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Change the color of ledger lines

2011-04-18 Thread Nick Payne

On 18/04/11 19:33, Xavier Scheuer wrote:

Hi,

Maybe this question has already been answered but I did not find a
solution while searching through the mailing lists.

   \override NoteHead #'color = #red
changes the color of the note heads but not the color of the ledger
lines.  I tried

   \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red

but it does not work.

Any idea how I could change the color of the ledger lines (ledger lines
only, I do not want to change the whole staff's color).


Using

\override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red

works for me in making the ledger lines and not the staff red.

\version "2.13.59"
\score {
   \new Staff {
  \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
  c c' c'' c'''
   }
}

Nick

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Re: Change the color of ledger lines

2011-04-18 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 18 April 2011 11:53, Nick Payne  wrote:
>
> Using
>
> \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
>
> works for me in making the ledger lines and not the staff red.
>
> \version "2.13.59"
> \score {
>   \new Staff {
>  \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
>  c c' c'' c'''
>   }
> }

OK, thanks.
I know see the real problem: it is not possible to change the color of
ledger lines _in the middle of the score_.

Is this a known issue?
Does it exist a workaround?
Cc: to bug-lilypond

%% It is not possible to change the color of ledger lines in the middle
%% of a score.
%%

\version "2.13.60"

\score {
  \new Staff {
c c' c'' c'''
\override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red  % no effect!
c c' c'' c'''
  }
}


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Re: Change the color of ledger lines

2011-04-18 Thread M Watts

On 04/18/2011 08:06 PM, Xavier Scheuer wrote:


I know see the real problem: it is not possible to change the color of
ledger lines _in the middle of the score_.


Yes, you can start with an override, but can't revert it.

\score {
  <<
\new Staff { c c' c'' c''' }
\new Staff {
  \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color = #red
  \clef bass
  c c'
  \revert Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'color % no effect!
  c'' c'''
}
  >>
}

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Re: Tuplet bracket length

2011-04-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
Dear Bruce,

2011/4/16 bruys . :
> I've read this thread. It seems to be mainly concerned with making the
> brackets extend to the full duration of the notes, like it is shown in the
> snippets, but that is not what I want to do here. I've added a couple of
> '\overrides' ('shorten-pair' was mentioned in the thread) which achieve the
> desired outcome (see below), but the solution seems terribly fragile. A
> different manual '\override' will need to be put in place for each different
> tuplet.
>
> It is not clear what units 'shorten-pair' uses (I just used trial and
> error);

I'd guess it uses staffspaces (the distance between staff lines), it's
a commonly used Lily unit.

> or why putting a value of 0.0 in the first position actually
> shortens the bracket on the left-hand end.

Very often 0.0 isn't the default value. Here 0.0 means flush with the
stem (i suppose), see attached.

> Lilypond seems to be doing what I want for the upper bracket - how to make
> it automatically do it for the other?

If no property to control this is mentioned in the documentation, then
probably you have to either write a cheme function doing this, or
modify Lily code itself so this option would become available.

Could you please write a feature request describing what you'd like
LilyPond to do in detail (with examples from some published scores if
possible) and send it to bug-lilyp...@gnu.org? Hopefully someone would
implement this, but i don't have any idea when.
Or if you know some c++ go ahead and add it yourself! Contributor's
Guide (http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/contributor/index.html)
tells you how to start. If you need any help, ask :)

cheers,
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Re: Change the color of ledger lines

2011-04-18 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:
> I know see the real problem: it is not possible to change the color of
> ledger lines _in the middle of the score_.
>
> Is this a known issue?
> Does it exist a workaround?

How about restarting the staff, as in http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=700 ?

Cheers,
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Re: Change the color of ledger lines

2011-04-18 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 18 April 2011 13:31, Valentin Villenave  wrote:
>
> How about restarting the staff, as in http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=700 
> ?

Indeed, it works.
Thanks!

Cheers,
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Re: \key Moves \chords Below Staff

2011-04-18 Thread Christian Eitner
Dear David,

> I would simply use skips:
>
> \version "2.12.3"
>
> {
> <<
>     \chords
>     {
>       s1*2
>       a1 c
>     }
>     \relative c''
>     {
>       a1 c a c
>     }
>  >>
> }
>
> Isn't this what you mean?

Yes, but there is really a lot of stuff going on before the couple of
bars with chords, and I would have to adjust the number of skipped
bars each time something changed.

Is there perhaps a way to tell the new chords context to be placed
above alread existent ones?

Cheers,

Christian

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Re: \key Moves \chords Below Staff

2011-04-18 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 18 April 2011 15:58, Christian Eitner <7enderh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes, but there is really a lot of stuff going on before the couple of
> bars with chords, and I would have to adjust the number of skipped
> bars each time something changed.
>
> Is there perhaps a way to tell the new chords context to be placed
> above alread existent ones?

There is the  alignAboveContext  property.
Cf. NR 1.6.2 Modifying single staves


\version "2.13.60"

\score {
 <<
   \new Staff = "main" {
 \relative c'' {
   \key a \major
   % lot of stuffs going on before
   a1 c
   c a
   % chords start here
   <<
 {
   % staff continues here
   a1 c
 }
 \new ChordNames \with {
   alignAboveContext = "main"
 } {
   \chordmode {
 a1 c
   }
 }
   >>
   % no more chords
   % staff continues
   c1 a
 }
   }
 >>
}


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Re: \key Moves \chords Below Staff

2011-04-18 Thread Christian Eitner
Dear Xavier,

>> Is there perhaps a way to tell the new chords context to be placed
>> above alread existent ones?
>
> There is the  alignAboveContext  property.
> Cf. NR 1.6.2 Modifying single staves
>
>
> \version "2.13.60"
>
> \score {
>  <<
>   \new Staff = "main" {
>     \relative c'' {
>       \key a \major
>       % lot of stuffs going on before
>       a1 c
>       c a
>       % chords start here
>       <<
>         {
>           % staff continues here
>           a1 c
>         }
>         \new ChordNames \with {
>           alignAboveContext = "main"
>         } {
>           \chordmode {
>             a1 c
>           }
>         }
>       >>
>       % no more chords
>       % staff continues
>       c1 a
>     }
>   }
>  >>
> }

Perfect! All problems solved. Thanks a lot to everyone.

Cheers,

Christian

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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-18 Thread Michael Dykes
Thanks, Nick. That solved one prob, but brought up another. Not I get the
errorjava.io IOException:error=20 
when I try to compile. Any thoughts? Thanks again.





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Error #20

2011-04-18 Thread Michael Dykes
Nick Payne  internode.on.net> writes:

> 
Hullo Nick. Now, I get the following error: java.io IOException:error=20, not a
directory. Any ideas? Thanks for your time and patience, since I am new to this
program. I really appreciated it.





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Re: length of stems of sextuplets is too short

2011-04-18 Thread Marc M



Marc M wrote:
> 
> As you can see on this snippet the length of stems of sextuplets is too
> short. The length of the stems extend for 32th but not for the 8th notes.
> Is there anything i should do or is there something wrong is the default
> values?
> 
> 
> %% the sextuplets look compressed. The stems are too short.
> \version "2.13.60"
> \language "english"
> \paper{ ragged-right=##t }
> 
> \relative g' {
> \key a \major
> \times 2/3 {e'8 gs a}  \times 2/3 {b a gs}
> \times 4/6 {e16 gs a b a gs}
> \times 4/12 {e32 gs a b a gs   e32 gs a b a gs}
> }
> 

Is that normal behavior or a bug?

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Re: length of stems of sextuplets is too short

2011-04-18 Thread Toine Schreurs
> > As you can see on this snippet the length of stems of sextuplets is too
> > short. The length of the stems extend for 32th but not for the 8th notes.
> > Is there anything i should do or is there something wrong is the default
> > values?
> > 
> > 
> > %% the sextuplets look compressed. The stems are too short.
> > \version "2.13.60"
> > \language "english"
> > \paper{ ragged-right=##t }
> > 
> > \relative g' {
> > \key a \major
> > \times 2/3 {e'8 gs a}  \times 2/3 {b a gs}
> > \times 4/6 {e16 gs a b a gs}
> > \times 4/12 {e32 gs a b a gs   e32 gs a b a gs}
> > }
> > 
> Is that normal behavior or a bug?

See http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=681
If you use \override Stem #'(details beamed-lengths) = #'(3 4 5)
the 8th notes remain unchanged, the 16th will be extended, and the 32th even 
more.

Toine Schreurs

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Force end measure with compound time signature

2011-04-18 Thread alb84

Here is my problem

http://old.nabble.com/file/p31425579/Gloria_Pagina_4.png 

I'm reporting the code of the bass part

\bar "||"
%\key g \major

#(set-time-signature 13 4 '(3 4 3 3))
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #(custom-time-signature "3" 
"4"
"3" "3" "4")

\partial 4 c,4 |
g'2 g4
a f g e
f d g
c, c c |
b( a) b
c( e) fis g
fis d c
b d e |
d2( e4)
f d e( c)
d b g'
e d e |
d2.
e4( fis) g( d)
c d d
e d d |
\set measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 6 4) 
d2.
d2.\fermata |
\bar "||"

\time 4/4
e1( |
d2 c) |
d1\fermata |

\bar "|."

I'd like to stop the measure before the Amen and reset the time signature to
4/4 but I don't know how...

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Re: Force end measure with compound time signature

2011-04-18 Thread alb84

Solved like this

#(set-time-signature 3 4)
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f

and then


#(set-time-signature 4 4)
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f

Here the result

http://old.nabble.com/file/p31426772/Gloria_Pagina_4.png 
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Re: Override Stem #'length-fraction does not shorten stem of ledger notes

2011-04-18 Thread Neil Puttock
On 17 April 2011 22:46, Xavier Scheuer  wrote:

> Basically if a user could give me a clue how to disable the fact that
> when a note is far from the staff, its stem goes to the middle line of
> the staff, I would be grateful.  :)

\override Stem #'no-stem-extend = ##t

Cheers,
Neil

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Bad slur default (when rests are within)

2011-04-18 Thread MusFelix

When a slur connects two notes that have a rest in between, the slur is
placed up, even if it would otherwise be down.  Needless to say, this looks
bad, and one has to manually adjust it every time it occurs.  Thus:

\version "2.13.51"
\include "english.ly"
\relative c
{
\clef bass
c8( r c) r c( c c) r

% What it should look like:
\slurDown
c8( r c) r c( c c) r
}
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Re: Error #20

2011-04-18 Thread Brett Duncan

On 19/04/11 2:08 AM, Michael Dykes wrote:

Hullo Nick. Now, I get the following error: java.io IOException:error=20, not a
directory. Any ideas? Thanks for your time and patience, since I am new to this
program. I really appreciated it.


The error suggests that there is still something wrong with your path. 
It should end with the *directory* that contains the lilypond binary. It 
should not end with the name of any actual file.


HTH

Brett

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Re: Using the "articulate.ly" script AND getting nice-looking engraved output - how to

2011-04-18 Thread Peter Chubb

There's no easy way the way I wrote the code to change the amount of
separation for the default non-legato case.  I suggest adding
something like this:
nonLegato = #(define-music-function (parser location factor music)
   (pair? ly:music?)
   "Adjust times of note to add tenuto, staccato and 
normal articulations.
The first argument gives the degree of articulation for
the usual (non-legato) case.
"
(set! ac:normalFactor factor)
(music-map ac:articulate-chord music)
   )

used thus:

\unfoldRepeats \nonLegato #'(15 . 16) \yourMusic

15/16 is what some of the writers here suggested.

The other thing that would be worth doing, is adding legato and
non-legato or detached as keywords that alter the articulation factor
in the ac:getactions function.

Peter C

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