Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-04-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Graham Percival
 wrote:
> Yes, there's a short one on the main Vivi page:
> http://percival-music.ca/vivi.html

Erm, I'm pretty sure you don't care about video encoding but if you
ever do, please note that using  HTML tags with WebM
compression is pretty awesome.

> and a longer one on the conference webpage:
> http://percival-music.ca/smc2011.html

Your website looks strangely familiar (in spite of some questionable
color choices ;)
BTW, you're missing a "../" in the toc-Teaching-1 element of your
blog's #tocframe. It produces a dead link:
http://percival-music.ca/blog/teaching.html

Cheers,
V.

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Re: Arpeggio collision bug

2011-04-08 Thread Robin Bannister
Hu Haipeng wrote: 
 this doesn't work at all. 
 The hidden breathe sign strangely leaves an apostrophe like sign 
  
  
This apostrophe is the breathe glyph; so I suppose the #'transparent 
override wasn't being effective.  My workaround did work for your snippet 
(as my attachment for sighted readers demonstrated) but maybe it fails in 
the context of your complete score.  It fails if you put it in both hands! 
  
  
I am glad you have found a more reliable workaround, if somewhat fiddlier. 
And disregard my suspicion regarding staff change; this constellation is to 
be found in issue 601. 
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=601 
  
The hint there by Valentin regarding #'infinite-spacing-height is outdated 
and would now read like 
  
\override PianoStaff.Arpeggio #'extra-spacing-height = #'(-inf.0 . +inf.0)
  
  
Cheers, 
Robin 



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Re: intro; art song example or template?

2011-04-08 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert
Hi Ivan,

Aside from reading the manuals -- especially the one called 'getting
started', there is something else I think you'll find handy.  I
started with Lilypond way back in 2002 or '03 when the only way to use
it was with the command line.  Nowadays there are a number of editors
and interfaces that make everything much easier.

For example, jEdit with LilypondTool, which works on any system (I
have it on Ubuntu, PC-BSD, and Windoze).  Install jEdit (jedit.org),
and when it is up and running, click on 'Plugins' and install
LilypondTool.  This will give you a powerful tool for editing your .ly
files with automatic colouring and indentation for human-readable
clarity, a toolbar for compiling your files and opening the .pdf and
.midi files, an on-board Lilypond manual, and even a virtual keyboard
for note entry.  It also has a template builder, so all you would have
to do, for example is tell jEdit that you want a song with Soprano and
Guitar, and presto! it creates the file with all the right sections --
you merely enter the notes, dynamics and words, and you're off to the
races!  It will even give you the option of notating your guitar in
either or both of regular staff and tablature.

Hope this helps.

Blessings,

Gordon+
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> Hello All;
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> I am a first time poster.  I have much experience with
> linux and latex and so hopefully I will catch on
> to lilypond without too much trouble.
>
> I am a composer of mostly atonal music, often with
> a lot of time signature changes (or with passages
> that have no time signatures), to give you
> an idea of the kinds of issues I am be facing.
>
> My first lilypond project is too notate some songs I
> wrote for soprano and classical guitar.
>
> Can someone recommend a template or even a finished
> song that I could begin with?
>
> Thank you for your help;  Ivan
>
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> Welcome Ivan.
>
> 2011/4/7 
>
>>
>> Hello All;
>>
>> I am a first time poster.  I have much experience with
>> linux and latex and so hopefully I will catch on
>> to lilypond without too much trouble.
>>
>> I am a composer of mostly atonal music, often with
>> a lot of time signature changes (or with passages
>> that have no time signatures), to give you
>> an idea of the kinds of issues I am be facing.
>>
>> My first lilypond project is too notate some songs I
>> wrote for soprano and classical guitar.
>>
>> Can someone recommend a template or even a finished
>> song that I could begin with?
>>
>> Thank you for your help;  Ivan
>>
>>
> I'm just a simple and basic user. But I've been writing my scores with
> lilypond for a couple of years now.
> I would recommend you to start from the beginning. It would take you no
> time. And it would give you a great walk around of everything.
>
> http://lilypond.org/manuals.html
>
> Definitely the best place where to start.
> Luck!
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Re: grace note without slurred but needs a slashed stem

2011-04-08 Thread Peter O'Doherty

Hi,
Can someone advise how to adjust this identifier to deal with a group of beamed 
grace notes?
Many thanks
Peter


"
Mark Polesky wrote:

   ... with an identifier:

.. which can be adapted to cope with a group of  grace notes:

mygrace = #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?)

#{ \override Stem #'stroke-style = #"grace" \grace $music \revert Stem 
#'stroke-style #})


N.B. - any beaming suppresses such grace slashes.

Cheers,

Robin
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Re: grace note without slurred but needs a slashed stem

2011-04-08 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On 8 April 2011 13:12, Peter O'Doherty  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Can someone advise how to adjust this identifier to deal with a group of
> beamed grace notes?

You want slashed beamed grace notes?
There is a snippet for that: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=721

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Beyond bars, book by Elaine Gould

2011-04-08 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello Philippe, Bruys, Han-Wen and list,

thanks to you, making me look at this book, I ordered it from amazon. (If 
someone is a good person and wants to order at his tiny local book-store ;-) 
Elaine Gould, "Behind Bars", faber music, ISBN 978-0-571-51456-4, Jan 2011)
The book arrived, while I was at Frankfurt Musikmesse, but since yesterday I am 
reading every free minute. This post can't and won't be a complete review - 
well, look at Bruys and Han-Wens posts - but a "first look at"-recommendation.
In this short time, it answered some specific questions of mine or gave advice, 
so to me it is usable as a handbook/reference and seems to be quite "complete".
I ordered a (german) book on this topic, but that is not in stock right now - 
so this book fills this gap really good.
This post is also a "thank you" for making me taking note of this book!

Best regards,
Jan-Peter

Am 03.04.2011 um 03:24 schrieb bruys .:

> -- Forwarded message --
> From: bruys . 
> Date: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: Beyond bars, book by Elaine Gould
> To: flup2 
> 
> 
> Dear Philippe,
> Behind Bars is published by Faber Music (Elaine Gould is an editor
> with Faber), so it is more likely to be available with a print music
> supplier than a book shop. I just happened to find it on the internet,
> and it made me interested in really getting to grips with Lilypond. I
> haven't read Kurt Stone, but I have read Gardner Read. In comparison
> to Gardner Read, I'd say Elaine Gould is more precise about
> type-setting details. For instance, she seems to spend more time on
> alignment of various figures, whereas Read concentrates more on the
> notation alone. For instance, for brackets over a triplet, she shows
> them going from the edge of the notehead; whereas Read shows them
> going from the middle of the notehead or from the stem of a beamed
> group. Elaine Gould is explicit about placement, Gardner Read not. It
> is a more recent book, so it has the benefit of hind-sight. Her
> perspective is one of an editor who needs to point out corrections to
> the way of music has been set, whereas Gardner Read is more from the
> perspective of a composer who needs to pick the most effective way of
> writing music (one that performers will understand).
> I definitely recommend this book, to anyone interested in the subject.
> Regards,
> bruys
> 
> On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 4:54 PM, flup2  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> In a recent message, I discovered the reference to Elaine Gould's book
>> "Beyond Bars". I never read about it before (I only knew Gardner Read and
>> Kurt Stone books) and would like to know more about it from people who own
>> and use it.
>> 
>> Is it more complete than Read and Stone, are some aspects different from
>> rules followed by Lilypond ?
>> 
>> In other words, is that book interesting when owning one of its predecessors
>> ?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Philippe
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Re: Lute tablature

2011-04-08 Thread northofscotland

Thanks to those of you who have replied.

I have been playing about with the various bits and pieces, and especially
the snippet numbers to letters.  That snippet places the letter ON the line,
whereas English tablature places the letters BETWEEN the lines.  I have
tried such tweaks as 

\override TabNoteHead #'Y-offset = #0.5

but all this seems to do is move everything up onto the same position.

Is there a simple command to move each separate letter individually into the
space above its line?

By the way I am using Lilypond 2.13 and am trying to produce tablature for a
7 course renaissance lute.

Thanks



northofscotland wrote:
> 
> Looking through the mailing lists for a couple of years ago, there was
> some discussion about implementing lute tablature for Lilypond.  Did
> anything ever come of this?
> 

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Re: Lute tablature

2011-04-08 Thread Éditions IN NOMINE
I'm sorry Icouldn't find the issue. I tweaked that in my personal french 
tablature font by increasing the space below the letters :'( ... oh yes 
I did that... :-[


If you're in total distress about lute tablature, I can send you my 
template.


Best regards !
JM


northofscotland a écrit :

Thanks to those of you who have replied.

I have been playing about with the various bits and pieces, and especially
the snippet numbers to letters.  That snippet places the letter ON the line,
whereas English tablature places the letters BETWEEN the lines.  I have
tried such tweaks as 


\override TabNoteHead #'Y-offset = #0.5

but all this seems to do is move everything up onto the same position.

Is there a simple command to move each separate letter individually into the
space above its line?

By the way I am using Lilypond 2.13 and am trying to produce tablature for a
7 course renaissance lute.

Thanks



northofscotland wrote:
  

Looking through the mailing lists for a couple of years ago, there was
some discussion about implementing lute tablature for Lilypond.  Did
anything ever come of this?




  


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status of mutopia project

2011-04-08 Thread steve
Howdy!

   Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else..

   What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org ??

   I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to
all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just
recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and
the subscription request(s) bounced!!  This has been going on
for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact
at all??

Is this project dead?

   thanx - steve




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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-08 Thread Francisco Vila
2011/4/8 steve :
> Howdy!
>
>   Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else..
>
>   What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org ??
>
>   I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to
> all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just
> recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and
> the subscription request(s) bounced!!  This has been going on
> for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact
> at all??
>
>    Is this project dead?

Sadly yes it is, in practice.  Latest updates are dec 2010 (four
posts). Any posts previous to those 4 are a year old.  I'd love that
Petrucci Music Library http://imslp.org/wiki/ supported maintaining of
source lilypond files in the same site.  Sceaux and others just link
to their own sites for sources.

Maybe it is a good thing that freely available scores mix scanned and
typeset documents whatever their origin or the software used; but no
doubt that completely free scores are only possible if you have the
source _and_ the typesetting engine is free as in freedom (i.e. Finale
documents are useless for me for a triple reason: I need a costly
software to see them, even if a viewer is available at zero cost I
still can not hack the score, and even if I could, I am not free
because that viewer is prorietary software).

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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-08 Thread Janek Warchoł
2011/4/8 Francisco Vila 
>
> 2011/4/8 steve :
> > Howdy!
> >
> >   Hope this isn't too OT, but can't get any info anywhere else..
> >
> >   What is the status of the mutopiaproject http://mutopiaproject.org ??
> >
> >   I have discovered errors in goldberg aria, reported them to
> > all contacts, even added corrected source files. Also just
> > recently tried to subscribe to mailing list at mutopiaproject and
> > the subscription request(s) bounced!!  This has been going on
> > for at least a year. No corrections, no acknowledgement, no contact
> > at all??
> >
> >    Is this project dead?
>
> Sadly yes it is, in practice.  Latest updates are dec 2010 (four
> posts). Any posts previous to those 4 are a year old.  I'd love that
> Petrucci Music Library http://imslp.org/wiki/ supported maintaining of
> source lilypond files in the same site.  Sceaux and others just link
> to their own sites for sources.

At least we can be thankful that the project website is still available...

> Maybe it is a good thing that freely available scores mix scanned and
> typeset documents whatever their origin or the software used; but no
> doubt that completely free scores are only possible if you have the
> source _and_ the typesetting engine is free as in freedom (i.e. Finale
> documents are useless for me for a triple reason: I need a costly
> software to see them, even if a viewer is available at zero cost I
> still can not hack the score, and even if I could, I am not free
> because that viewer is prorietary software).

Any Linux user has at least one more reason - finale doesn't run on Linux...

cheers,
Janek

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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-08 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/4/8 Janek Warchoł :
.>
> Any Linux user has at least one more reason - finale doesn't run on Linux...
>

Actually it can run on wine (I`m not saying I prefer it!!)

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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-08 Thread Keith OHara
steve  linuxsuite.org> writes:

>What is the status of the mutopiaproject ??
> 

It needs people to take over from the one person who has done most of the
work for the past decade.  You can see the recent history at the list archive
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss
where Chris Sawer describes the situation.

Finding new volunteers always takes a lot of time.  There is a backlog of
submissions, but I imagine that having some very nice new scores in the backlog
(with the sources and their relevant dates and laid out for easy checking of
public domain status) would encourage any tentative volunteers who have
contacted Chris to learn what is involved.

A recent stable LilyPond version would also help.  I converted the scores I
was working on from 2.12 to 2.13, to avoid difficulties with \partcombine,
but then 2.13 kept changing so I've abandoned the 2.13 versions and now have
pretty much quit using LilyPond.  (I should just go back to the 2.12 versions.)


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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-08 Thread Alberto Simões



On 08/04/2011 19:02, Keith OHara wrote:

steve  linuxsuite.org>  writes:


What is the status of the mutopiaproject ??


As one of the few official mirrors (that is not updating properly, and 
now I understand why Chris takes so much time to answer) am would be 
happy to help on maintaining mutopiaproject.






It needs people to take over from the one person who has done most of the
work for the past decade.  You can see the recent history at the list archive
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.music.mutopia.discuss
where Chris Sawer describes the situation.

Finding new volunteers always takes a lot of time.  There is a backlog of
submissions, but I imagine that having some very nice new scores in the backlog
(with the sources and their relevant dates and laid out for easy checking of
public domain status) would encourage any tentative volunteers who have
contacted Chris to learn what is involved.

A recent stable LilyPond version would also help.  I converted the scores I
was working on from 2.12 to 2.13, to avoid difficulties with \partcombine,
but then 2.13 kept changing so I've abandoned the 2.13 versions and now have
pretty much quit using LilyPond.  (I should just go back to the 2.12 versions.)


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Re: status of mutopia project

2011-04-08 Thread Bernardo Barros
Why not to setup a git repository with the ly files?
It would be also useful for test new releases of Lilypond?

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Re: Lute tablature

2011-04-08 Thread Neil Puttock
On 8 April 2011 15:16, northofscotland  wrote:

> Is there a simple command to move each separate letter individually into the
> space above its line?

\override TabNoteHead #'Y-offset =
#(lambda (grob)
   (+ (/ (ly:staff-symbol-staff-space grob) 2)
  (ly:staff-symbol-referencer::callback grob)))
\override TabNoteHead #'whiteout = ##f

Cheers,
Neil

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Mismatch version number in 2.13.58 on Windows

2011-04-08 Thread Marc Mouries

I just installed 2.13.58 on Windows and when i run lilypond I get
C:\>lilypond
GNU LilyPond 2.13.54
Usage: lilypond [OPTION]... FILE...

Anyone else gets that?

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Re: Mismatch version number in 2.13.58 on Windows

2011-04-08 Thread Marc Mouries

On 4/8/2011 5:21 PM, Marc Mouries wrote:

I just installed 2.13.58 on Windows and when i run lilypond I get
C:\>lilypond
GNU LilyPond 2.13.54
Usage: lilypond [OPTION]... FILE...

Anyone else gets that?


It seems that the uninstaller of lilypond 2.14.54 did not work well.
If i uninstall it 2.13.58 and ran lilypond.exe I get 2.14.54 but it 
generates an error.

Then i re-install 2.13.58 and i get

C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin>lilypond
GNU LilyPond 2.13.58

If i type: C:\lilypond.exe, I get
GNU LilyPond 2.13.54



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abc2ly limitations?

2011-04-08 Thread Marc Mouries
I am trying to convert an Irish Fiddle tune and abc2ly complains about 
grace notes, repeat signs and text quotes.
Are the limitations of abc2ly documented anywhere? Any workaround to 
import the file?

http://abcnotation.com/tunePage?a=trillian.mit.edu/~jc/music/abc/mirror/Perron-Miller/Dr_Gilbert_1/

thanks,

-Marc

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Old version (2.6.5) Time signature before bar line?

2011-04-08 Thread Ed Ardzinski

I have a repeated section that has a time change in the final bar.  I asked a 
composer friend about the proper notation, he was stumped.  I'm figuring that 
the change should be before the repeat bar line (maybe in paarentheses?).  If 
anyone can give some hints or links to discussions on how to do this I'd 
appreciate it.
 
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RE: Old version (2.6.5) Time signature before bar line?

2011-04-08 Thread Ed Ardzinski

 
I hope this explains it...the piece starts in 4/4, and the last measure of the 
repeat is in 5/4 (the continuation after the repeat stays in 5 for a few bars)
 
It just seems odd that going back to the beginning of the repeat, back in 4/4, 
would not have any notification...
 
 

 
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:33:18 -0400
> Subject: Re: Old version (2.6.5) Time signature before bar line?
> From: sh...@grayskies.net
> To: ed_ardzin...@hotmail.com
> 
> Could you provide an example? It seems mysterious to me that you would
> change a meter in a repeated section and it is not making sense to me
> at the moment.
> 
> Shane
> 
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Ed Ardzinski  wrote:
> > I have a repeated section that has a time change in the final bar.  I asked
> > a composer friend about the proper notation, he was stumped.  I'm figuring
> > that the change should be before the repeat bar line (maybe in
> > paarentheses?).  If anyone can give some hints or links to discussions on
> > how to do this I'd appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks!
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RE: Old version (2.6.5) Time signature before bar line?

2011-04-08 Thread Ed Ardzinski

 
Well that would look odd - the repeat is only 2 bars into the piece...thanks!
 
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 19:07:31 -0400
> Subject: Re: Old version (2.6.5) Time signature before bar line?
> From: sh...@grayskies.net
> To: ed_ardzin...@hotmail.com
> 
> you should then at the beginning of the repeat establish 4/4 time with
> a time signature. It is a little peculiar but it will clarify the
> situation. clarity is always best.
> 
> Shane
> 
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Ed Ardzinski  wrote:
> >
> > I hope this explains it...the piece starts in 4/4, and the last measure of
> > the repeat is in 5/4 (the continuation after the repeat stays in 5 for a few
> > bars)
> >
> > It just seems odd that going back to the beginning of the repeat, back in
> > 4/4, would not have any notification...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:33:18 -0400
> >> Subject: Re: Old version (2.6.5) Time signature before bar line?
> >> From: sh...@grayskies.net
> >> To: ed_ardzin...@hotmail.com
> >>
> >> Could you provide an example? It seems mysterious to me that you would
> >> change a meter in a repeated section and it is not making sense to me
> >> at the moment.
> >>
> >> Shane
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Ed Ardzinski 
> >> wrote:
> >> > I have a repeated section that has a time change in the final bar.  I
> >> > asked
> >> > a composer friend about the proper notation, he was stumped.  I'm
> >> > figuring
> >> > that the change should be before the repeat bar line (maybe in
> >> > paarentheses?).  If anyone can give some hints or links to discussions
> >> > on
> >> > how to do this I'd appreciate it.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
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Re: Old version (2.6.5) Time signature before bar line?

2011-04-08 Thread James Lowe
hello

James.

On 8 Apr 2011, at 23:53, "Ed Ardzinski"  wrote:

> It just seems odd that going back to the beginning of the repeat, back in 
> 4/4, would not have any notification...
>  

I don't think so. If you are repeating the bar then you are repeating the bar, 
I.e. play whatever it was supposed to be the first time, else it isn't a 
'repeat' is it?

If the intention was to play the repeated section in a different time sig than 
it was played before the it isn't a 'repeat' and should be written out in full 
without repeat bars. 

You could also put a new time sig after the end of the second bar but before 
the repeat as I'd expect a key sig change to be notated mid repeated section in 
the same way. it's also not uncommon to add text to the bottom of the staff - 
for instance many pieces I play have things like 'strings only on repeat' or 
'tacet first repeat' etc.

If it's still ambiguous the you have to ask yourself if it is better written 
out in full instead. Like you said it's only two bars. Clarity is more 
important than saving a few inches of paper. 

James
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Re: Mismatch version number in 2.13.58 on Windows

2011-04-08 Thread James Lowe
hello


On 8 Apr 2011, at 22:34, "Marc Mouries"  wrote:

> On 4/8/2011 5:21 PM, Marc Mouries wrote:
>> I just installed 2.13.58 on Windows and when i run lilypond I get
>> C:\>lilypond
>> GNU LilyPond 2.13.54
>> Usage: lilypond [OPTION]... FILE...
>> 
>> Anyone else gets that?
> 
> It seems that the uninstaller of lilypond 2.14.54 did not work well.
> If i uninstall it 2.13.58 and ran lilypond.exe I get 2.14.54 but it generates 
> an error.
> Then i re-install 2.13.58 and i get
> 
> C:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin>lilypond
> GNU LilyPond 2.13.58
> 
> If i type: C:\lilypond.exe, I get

Sounds like you have/had it installed in two places. The fact your path has 
Program files (x86) tells me this is a 64 bit system. 

I don't know where LP is installed in this case. 

Also we know the installer does not remove the path and I expect you have a few 
extra LP in your path. Open a prompt and type 'PATH'.  

So you maybe running into simply having two binaries installed.

You can just manually remove the whole LP dir to the wastebasket and the see 
what running the cmd does. It should say command not found. I it doesn't the 
you know you have another floating about. 

You may also want to manually remove those extra LP path statements too. 

Hope this is of help. 

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Re: [OT] Vivi, the Virtual Violinist, plays LilyPond music

2011-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 11:46:34AM +0200, Valentin Villenave wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Graham Percival
>  wrote:
> > Yes, there's a short one on the main Vivi page:
> > http://percival-music.ca/vivi.html
> 
> Erm, I'm pretty sure you don't care about video encoding but if you
> ever do, please note that using  HTML tags with WebM
> compression is pretty awesome.

I'll consider it when my mother can view videos that way.

> > and a longer one on the conference webpage:
> > http://percival-music.ca/smc2011.html
> 
> Your website looks strangely familiar (in spite of some questionable
> color choices ;)

Yes, I have a file called lilypond-texi2html.init in my personal
git repository.  I just changed it enough to produce the website.
You can see the texi2html marks in the html source.

> BTW, you're missing a "../" in the toc-Teaching-1 element of your
> blog's #tocframe. It produces a dead link:

Thanks, fixed.

Cheers,
- Graham

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status of release (was: status of mutopia project)

2011-04-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:02:01PM +, Keith OHara wrote:
> A recent stable LilyPond version would also help.  I converted the scores I
> was working on from 2.12 to 2.13, to avoid difficulties with \partcombine,
> but then 2.13 kept changing so I've abandoned the 2.13 versions and now have
> pretty much quit using LilyPond.

Ouch.  When a developer as skilled and active as you says this, it
really emphasizes the magnitude of the problem.

Looking over the past few weeks, I don't think the problem is the
programmers.  They've been fixing bugs quickly; a few times they
added regressions, but those are also fixed without a long delay.

I think the biggest problem at the moment is communication between
users and programmers.
- some users are not following the guidelines:
http://lilypond.org/bug-reports
  Bug reports should go to bug-lilypond, not the users list!  If
  you think it's of general interest, then CC it to both lists.

- the Bug Squad is still losing some issues.  This is extremely
  unfortunate, and it will hopefully improve over the next few
  weeks.
  However, this is something that users can help with:
  if you have not heard back from a Bug Squad member within
** 48 hours **
  then please assume that your bug report has been
** LOST **
  and send the email again.

  It gives me no pleasure to make this announcement, and I really
  hope that things will improve.  But for the forseeable future,
  please follow that policy.

- users could help each other supply good bug reports.  If a
  bug report has been rejected because it does not have a
  Tiny example:
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
  then an experienced user could spend a few minutes creating
  such an example.  This would be very appreciated by
  everybody involved, especially if the initial bug reporter
  is a bit uncertain about lilypond, has some difficulty with
  English, etc.

  It would be nice if the Bug Squad had sufficient resources
  to do this as well, but that unfortunately is not the case.


Honestly, if we keep on going at the current rate, then I don't
think we can get 2.14 out before June.  But if a few users helped
out the bug process by actively creating Tiny examples, and
resending bug reports to bug-lilypond when they get lost, then I
really think that we can get 2.14 out in May.

Cheers,
- Graham

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Installing custom font for Lilypond

2011-04-08 Thread Aleksandr Andreev
Hello folks,

Basically, I'm trying to create a library of Lilypond scores with some of my
collaborators and I'd like to automate the process. I've installed Lilypond on
my server and I've allowed each user to drop Lilypond source files via a Perl
script. The script then calls Lilypond and voila, a PDF, PNG and MIDI all 
appear.

However, much of the music we're working with is Russian Orthodox chant and so
it is in Church Slavonic. Thus, I'm trying to install a custom font on the
server to properly render the Slavonic characters. Within the Lilypond source,
the user sets the desired font name.

I've placed the font into the /usr/share/ghostscript/8.70/Resource/Font/ folder
and then I've modified the Fontmap.GS file in
/usr/share/ghostscript/8.70/Resource/Init/ folder. However, Lilypond still does
not use the font.

Is there something else I need to modify? Do I also need to place the font in
the /usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/ folder?

Thanks for any help!



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programming error: cannot align on self: empty element

2011-04-08 Thread Nick Payne
The following minimal example generates the error "programming error: 
cannot align on self: empty element" in the console log.


\version "2.13.58"

\relative c' {
\tempo 4 = 72
\override Score.MetronomeMark #'stencil = ##f
c4 c c c
}

Comment out either the \tempo indication or the override and the error 
goes away. I use this combination of commands in the \score block quite 
often if I want the midi output to play at a particular speed for 
proofing, but I don't want a tempo indication to appear in the score. 
Having the error appear in the log doesn't seem to affect either the 
midi output or the printed score.


Nick

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Re: status of release (was: status of mutopia project)

2011-04-08 Thread Keith OHara

On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 19:34:05 -0700, Graham Percival  
wrote:


On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:02:01PM +, Keith OHara wrote:

A recent stable LilyPond version would also help.  I converted the scores I
was working on from 2.12 to 2.13, to avoid difficulties with \partcombine,
but then 2.13 kept changing so I've abandoned the 2.13 versions and now have
pretty much quit using LilyPond.


Ouch.  When a developer as skilled and active as you says this, it
really emphasizes the magnitude of the problem.


Well, I was sensible enough to keep 2.12.3 versions of the scores, so I should 
be also sensible and go back to using version 2.12.3, for anything other than 
testing or playing around with the development version.


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Dividing ties and adjusting ties in an arpeggiated chord

2011-04-08 Thread bruys .
Hello again,

I'm sorry to have to make further enquiries, but I'm flailing around here.

It seems that I need to divide the arpeggiated chord into separate
parts, so I can apply tweaks to each part separately.

Sorry about the length of the following code. It is for only one
arpeggiated chord, and I haven't been able to apply the tweaks yet.

When I put all the parts in the one voice context, I can get the notes
to line up, hooray. But, Lilypond ignores my explicit request to
direct the tie on the note d (d'') up (/tieUp), even though a major
collision results.

Part 2 to follow!

Thanks,
bruys


\version "2.12.3"

partOne = {

   \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
   \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
                                                    % collision with top tie
   \grace {
      \tieUp d''16[~ s16 s16 s16 s16]
   }
   \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0 % lengthen stem to match height of
                                       % grace notes - don't know why this
                                       % needs to be 6.0 instead of 5.0
   \stemUp
   d''4
}

partTwo = {

  \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
  \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0)
  \grace {
     s16[ \tieUp fis''16~ s16 s16 s16]
  }
  \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0
  \stemUp
  fis''4
}

partThree = {

  \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
  \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
                                                   % collision with top tie
  \grace {
     s16[ s16 \tieUp b'16~ s16 s16]
  }
  \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0 % lengthen stem to match height of
                                       % grace notes - don't know why this
                                       % needs to be 6.0 instead of 5.0
  \stemUp
  b'4
}

partFour = {

  \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
  \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
                                                   % collision with top tie
  \grace {
     s16[ s16 s16 \tieDown d'16~ s16]
  }
  \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0 % lengthen stem to match height of
                                       % grace notes - don't know why this
                                       % needs to be 6.0 instead of 5.0
  \stemUp
  d'4
}

partFive = {
  \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
  \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
                                                   % collision with top tie
  \grace {
    s16[ s16 s16 s16 \tieDown gis'16~]
  }
  \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0 % lengthen stem to match height of
                                       % grace notes - don't know why this
                                       % needs to be 6.0 instead of 5.0
  \stemUp
  gis'4
}

ignore = \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
revertIgnore = \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##f

\score {
  {  \ignore
     <<
     \partOne
     \partTwo
     \partThree
     \partFour
     \partFive
     >>
     \revertIgnore
     \tieNeutral
  }
}
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Dividing ties and adjusting ties in an arpeggiated chord

2011-04-08 Thread bruys .
Hello Again,

Part 2: If I put each part into a separate voice context, the ties are
in the right direction, but otherwise it's a real mess.

Thanks,
bruys

partOne = {
\voiceOne
\set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
\once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
 % collision with top tie
\grace {
   \tieUp d''16[~ s16 s16 s16 s16]
}
\once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0 % lengthen stem to match height of
% grace notes - don't know why this
% needs to be 6.0 instead of 5.0
\stemUp
d''4
}
% voiceTwo not used
partTwo = {
   \voiceThree
   \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
   \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0)
   \grace {
  s16[ \tieUp fis''16~ s16 s16 s16]
   }
   \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0
   \stemUp
   fis''4
}
% voiceFour not used
voiceFive = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 4) 'Voice)
partThree = {
   \voiceFive
   \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
   \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
% collision with top tie
   \grace {
  s16[ s16 \tieUp b'16~ s16 s16]
   }
   \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0 % lengthen stem to match height of
% grace notes - don't know why this
% needs to be 6.0 instead of 5.0
   \stemUp
   b'4
}
voiceSix = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 5) 'Voice)
% voiceSix not used
voiceSeven = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 6) 'Voice)
partFour = {
   \voiceSeven
   \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
   \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
% collision with top tie
   \grace {
  s16[ s16 s16 \tieDown d'16~ s16]
   }
   \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0 % lengthen stem to match height of
% grace notes - don't know why this
% needs to be 6.0 instead of 5.0
   \stemUp
   d'4
}
voiceEight = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 7) 'Voice)
% voiceEight not used
voiceNine = #(context-spec-music (make-voice-props-set 8) 'Voice)
partFive = {
   \voiceNine
   \set tieWaitForNote = ##t % for arpeggiated ties
   \once \override Beam #'positions = #'(5.0 . 5.0) % raise beam to avoid
% collision with top tie
   \grace {
 s16[ s16 s16 s16 \tieDown gis'16~]
   }
   \once \override Stem #'length = #'6.0 % lengthen stem to match height of
% grace notes - don't know why this
% needs to be 6.0 instead of 5.0
   \stemUp
   gis'4
}

ignore = \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##t
revertIgnore = \override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision = ##f

\score {
   {
  \ignore
  <<
  \partOne
  \\
  \partTwo
  \\
  \partThree
  \\
  \partFour
  \\
  \partFive
  >>
  \revertIgnore
  \tieNeutral
   }

}
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Re: status of release (was: status of mutopia project)

2011-04-08 Thread bruys .
Hello,
I'm curious (and I'm using version 2.13), and I wondered if
\partcombine is supposed to work with more than two parts. The
documentation refers to combining "several" parts, but only shows
examples with two parts. I was unsuccessful trying to use more than
two parts (in my pathetic attempts to resolve the problem in my
previous post).
Thanks to all you people working on bug fixes - Lilypond is an
impressive achievement.
Regards,
bruys
P.S. As an aside, the Scheme function context-spec-music is referred
to in the snippets, without giving any details of what it does
exactly. I expected I would be able to find information in the
internals manual, but it doesn't appear to be mentioned.

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Graham Percival
 wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 06:02:01PM +, Keith OHara wrote:
>> A recent stable LilyPond version would also help.  I converted the scores I
>> was working on from 2.12 to 2.13, to avoid difficulties with \partcombine,
>> but then 2.13 kept changing so I've abandoned the 2.13 versions and now have
>> pretty much quit using LilyPond.
>
> Ouch.  When a developer as skilled and active as you says this, it
> really emphasizes the magnitude of the problem.
>
> Looking over the past few weeks, I don't think the problem is the
> programmers.  They've been fixing bugs quickly; a few times they
> added regressions, but those are also fixed without a long delay.
>
> I think the biggest problem at the moment is communication between
> users and programmers.
> - some users are not following the guidelines:
>    http://lilypond.org/bug-reports
>  Bug reports should go to bug-lilypond, not the users list!  If
>  you think it's of general interest, then CC it to both lists.
>
> - the Bug Squad is still losing some issues.  This is extremely
>  unfortunate, and it will hopefully improve over the next few
>  weeks.
>  However, this is something that users can help with:
>  if you have not heard back from a Bug Squad member within
>    ** 48 hours **
>  then please assume that your bug report has been
>    ** LOST **
>  and send the email again.
>
>  It gives me no pleasure to make this announcement, and I really
>  hope that things will improve.  But for the forseeable future,
>  please follow that policy.
>
> - users could help each other supply good bug reports.  If a
>  bug report has been rejected because it does not have a
>  Tiny example:
>    http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
>  then an experienced user could spend a few minutes creating
>  such an example.  This would be very appreciated by
>  everybody involved, especially if the initial bug reporter
>  is a bit uncertain about lilypond, has some difficulty with
>  English, etc.
>
>  It would be nice if the Bug Squad had sufficient resources
>  to do this as well, but that unfortunately is not the case.
>
>
> Honestly, if we keep on going at the current rate, then I don't
> think we can get 2.14 out before June.  But if a few users helped
> out the bug process by actively creating Tiny examples, and
> resending bug reports to bug-lilypond when they get lost, then I
> really think that we can get 2.14 out in May.
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham
>
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Re: Difficulty in jedit with LilyPondTools

2011-04-08 Thread bruys .
Hello Michael,
I know next to nothing about JEdit, except that it installed on my
(Windows) system without any difficulty. No-one else has replied, so I
thought I'd mention that a few more details are probably required
before anyone can help. It would appear that JEdit is not finding a
necessary file, which indicates that something might have gone wrong
with installation, prerequisite files are missing or not on the path
searched by JEdit.
I would think that the operating system you are using, what
instructions you followed to install the software, and at what stage
you get the error would all be relevant.
Perhaps it is something as simple as needing to configure JEdit to
find your pdf reader or Lilypond:
http://lilypondtool.blogspot.com/p/install-configure.html
Regards,
bruys

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Michael Dykes  wrote:
> I just started using JEdit and the LilypondTools provided as a plug-in for
> that editor. Everytime I use it though, I keep getting the follwoing error:
> java.io IOException:error=2, No such file or directory   - Any help
> resolving this would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
> --
> In Christ,
> Michael D
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