Re: Different Raster Size for every page
Hello On 21/08/2010 19:02, Nils Gey wrote: Thank you for your answer, but it was not a question about setting and printing notation but just a technical one. Well you could simply put a different #(set-global-staff-size XX) For each score on each page I guess? However if you wanted it scaled down so that margins and the like were also 'in scale' then that would have to be taken into account as well. So I'd say it is very technically possible. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lyrics and \skip
Mats Bengtsson-4 wrote:
>
>
>
> Arjan Bos wrote:
>> The solution proposed by Mats still completely eludes me. It does
>> something with the difference between \new lyrics and \context lyrics
>> and the differences are still not clear to me, even after using
>> lilypond for more than 2 years.
> The idea is very simple
>
> \new Lyrics = "mainlyrics" \lyricsto "melody" ...
>
> creates a new lyrics context (think of it as a line of lyrics or a
> verse) with a specified name "mainlyrics".
>
> \context Lyrics = "mainlyrics" \lyricsto "verse" ...
>
> does not create a new context (i.e. a new line of lyrics). Rather, since a
> Lyrics context name "mainlyrics" already exists, it tells LilyPond to put
> the lyrics into this already existing context, which in practice means
> that
> the words will end up on the same line.
>
>>
>> The solution I have is very simple. I just insert the following in
>> every .ly file and use some binary counting for my skips.
>> skipOne = \lyricmode { \skip 1 }
>> skipTwo = \lyricmode { \skipOne \skipOne }
>> skipFour = \lyricmode { \skipTwo \skipTwo }
>> skipSix = \lyricmode { \skipTwo \skipFour }
>> skipEight = \lyricmode {\skipFour \skipFour }
>> skipSixteen = \lyricmode {\skipEight \skipEight}
>> skipThirtytwo = \lyricmode {\skipSixteen \skipSixteen }
>>
>> And if I then need a \skip 1 * 40 I simply insert a \skipThritytwo
>> \skipEight into my lyrics.
>>
>
> A much simpler version of this was proposed in an earlier email in this
> thread:
> \repeat unfold 40 {\skip 1}
>
> However, once you learn to work with named contexts, I definitely
> recommend to
> use that principle instead.
>
>/Mats
>
> Mats
> Can you explain that again?:confused:
> Does your explanation mean you can align the lyrics with notes that are
> typeset after the intro notes?
> Thanks
> Graham
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Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Dear Lilypond community: I am typesetting a piece in two sections: The first one consists of 5/8 and 8/8 bars. Their alternaton does not follow any pattern. Then, the next section is always in 9/8. How can I engrave one of those mixed time signatures (that is, 5/8 8/8)? (Here is an example from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature#Mixed_meters , you must scroll down a bit, until you see the 3/4 6/8 signature). Thank you very much! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Mixed-Time-Signatures%3A-Non-regular-alternantion-between-5-8-and-8-8-tp29503895p29503895.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Adding a temporal 3rd staff (for only 2 bars) in a Piano Staff
Hello Lilypond Community! I am typesetting a piano score. As most keyboard pieces, it begins with 2 staves, but measures 14 and 15 would need a 3rd staff over the other two. (I am using the new PianoStaff command) I have tried to make something like an ossia staff, but it's not the same, as its bar lines are not connected to the ones of the two main staves. Here is an example of what I want to do (Debussy: Préludes - Book II, No.1; taken from the IMSLP. Check the 1st page): http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/d/dd/IMSLP00510-Debussy_-_Preludes__Book_2.pdf Can anybody help me? Thanks!! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Adding-a-temporal-3rd-staff-%28for-only-2-bars%29-in-a-Piano-Staff-tp29503969p29503969.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (re?)directing compile output to a file :
- Original Message - From: curri...@iinet.net.au To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 5:06 AM Subject: Re: (re?)directing compile output to a file : Attention : Phil Holmes I assume I have now "posted" directly to lilypond-user forum I have a "LONG post" Analysis (not without Value in my opinion) of this problem. I am new to "posting etiquette" but could at least Phil Holmes or someone tell me if I should post the "LONG post" Analysis to lilypond-user forum. Note Some intermediate correspondence should be added. David, You have successfully posted to the user forum. I'm answering directly to, but by using "reply-all" I'm also sending my reply to the newsgroup. As I said in my earlier email to you, redirecting LilyPond output from within a program is something I have done in c#, in writing a small program I call my "LilyPond monitor". It receives a filename to compile, starts LilyPond, monitors its progress and captures and displays all the output. If you'd prefer to start by emailing your analysis directly to me, I'd be happy to discuss it with you. As to whether to post a long analysis to the news group: it deends. How long is long? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Hi, > How can I engrave one of those mixed time signatures (that is, 5/8 8/8)? Override the TimeSignature stencil -- there are examples of how to do this in the docs and LSR. Best regards, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
On 8/22/2010 9:32 AM, fauban wrote: Dear Lilypond community: I am typesetting a piece in two sections: The first one consists of 5/8 and 8/8 bars. Their alternaton does not follow any pattern. Then, the next section is always in 9/8. How can I engrave one of those mixed time signatures (that is, 5/8 8/8)? (Here is an example from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature#Mixed_meters , you must scroll down a bit, until you see the 3/4 6/8 signature). Thank you very much! Are you sure that you want to display a 5/8 8/8 time signature? In the example you linked to the mix is 6/8 3/4 which are simply two different ways of organizing the same time value in each measure. You're talking about 5/8 and 8/8 which are not interchangeable time values. Assuming that in your mixed 5/8 8/8 section the 8th note pulse remains constant it would be misleading, confusing and annoying to read. I would recommend changing the time signature when it is appropriate to do so. -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
On 22 August 2010 11:33, fauban wrote: > > Dear Lilypond community: > I am typesetting a piece in two sections: > The first one consists of 5/8 and 8/8 bars. Their alternaton does not > follow any pattern. > Then, the next section is always in 9/8. > > How can I engrave one of those mixed time signatures (that is, 5/8 8/8)? Hi! There is a snippet "Compound time signatures" in the doc, NR 1.2.3 Displaying rhythms > Time signature http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms.html#time-signature Cheers, Xavier -- Xavier Scheuer ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adding a temporal 3rd staff (for only 2 bars) in a Piano Staff
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From: "fauban"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:52 AM
Subject: Adding a temporal 3rd staff (for only 2 bars) in a Piano Staff
Hello Lilypond Community!
I am typesetting a piano score.
As most keyboard pieces, it begins with 2 staves, but measures 14 and 15
would need a 3rd staff over the other two. (I am using the new PianoStaff
command)
I have tried to make something like an ossia staff, but it's not the same,
as its bar lines are not connected to the ones of the two main staves.
Here is an example of what I want to do (Debussy: Préludes - Book II,
No.1;
taken from the IMSLP. Check the 1st page):
http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/d/dd/IMSLP00510-Debussy_-_Preludes__Book_2.pdf
No doubt there are a number of ways of doing this by adding extra staves,
but the way I would do it is by allowing LilyPond to remove empty staves.
Here's an example:
\layout {
\context {
\RemoveEmptyStaffContext
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
}
}
{
<<
\new PianoStaff <<
\new Staff {
\clef "treble"
\time 4/8
R1*4/8 |
\repeat unfold 4 { g''32 ( [ e''32 c''32 b'32 ) ] } |
R1*4/8 \bar "|."
}
\new Staff {
\clef "treble"
\time 4/8
\repeat unfold 4 { b'32 ( [ g'32 e'32 d'32 ) ] } \break |
\repeat unfold 4 { b'32 ( [ g'32 e'32 d'32 ) ] } \break |
\repeat unfold 4 { b'32 ( [ g'32 e'32 d'32 ) ] } \break |
}
\new Staff {
\clef "bass"
\time 4/8
\repeat unfold 4 { e32 ( [ g32 b32 c'32 ) ] } \break |
\repeat unfold 4 { e32 ( [ g32 b32 c'32 ) ] } \break |
\repeat unfold 4 { e32 ( [ g32 b32 c'32 ) ] } \break |
}
}
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Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Am Sonntag, 22. August 2010, um 11:40:14 schrieb David Bobroff: > On 8/22/2010 9:32 AM, fauban wrote: > > Dear Lilypond community: > > I am typesetting a piece in two sections: > > The first one consists of 5/8 and 8/8 bars. Their alternaton does not > > follow any pattern. > > Then, the next section is always in 9/8. > > > > How can I engrave one of those mixed time signatures (that is, 5/8 8/8)? > > (Here is an example from Wikipedia: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature#Mixed_meters , you must > > scroll down a bit, until you see the 3/4 6/8 signature). > > > > Thank you very much! > > Are you sure that you want to display a 5/8 8/8 time signature? In the > example you linked to the mix is 6/8 3/4 which are simply two different > ways of organizing the same time value in each measure. You're talking > about 5/8 and 8/8 which are not interchangeable time values. Assuming > that in your mixed 5/8 8/8 section the 8th note pulse remains constant > it would be misleading, confusing and annoying to read. I would > recommend changing the time signature when it is appropriate to do so. Actually, for 20th-century music it's no uncommon to have alternating time signatures. I have a score of the "Psalmenproprium" by Haselböck (Verlag Doblinger), which very frequently has time signatures like 3/4 4/4 or even 2/4 3/4 3/8 5/8 (yes, four different values!). There is no regularity in the order and length that the different meters appear in the score. The main problem for lilypond is not the display, since the stencil can be easily overridden, but rather the automatic barline feature, which needs to know how long a particular measure needs to be. With those alternating time signatures, all you know is that the measure should have a length that is in the list of given fractions, but you don't know which. Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Hi Reinhold,
> for 20th-century music it's no uncommon to have alternating time signatures.
Yes.
> The main problem for lilypond is not the display, since the stencil can be
> easily overridden, but rather the automatic barline feature, which needs to
> know how long a particular measure needs to be. With those alternating time
> signatures, all you know is that the measure should have a length that is in
> the list of given fractions, but you don't know which.
Yes, but once you've displayed the initial TS, you can just turn off the
stencil:
\version "2.13.29"
#(define ((custom-time-signature one two three four five six) grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup #:override '(baseline-skip . 0) #:number
(#:line ((#:column (one two))
(#:column (three four))
(#:column (five six)))
alternatingTS = \relative c' {
\override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil =
#(custom-time-signature "3" "4" "5" "8" "2" "4")
\time 3/4 c8 c c c c c |
\override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
\time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
\time 2/4 c8 c c c |
\time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
\time 3/4 c8 c c c c c |
}
\score { \alternatingTS }
Cheers,
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Re: Sustaining to end of measure (to bar line)?
On Aug 22, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Jesse Bye wrote: > On 8/21/2010 1:55 PM, Jesse Bye wrote: >> I'm writing a piece of music where I'd like to sustain some notes to the >> end of a measure: >> >> \set tieWaitForNote = ##t >> \set Staff.pedalSustainStyle = #'bracket >> e,4~\sustainOn fis~ b~ 4~ >> % 10 >> 1\fermata\sustainOff >> >> With the above code, the sustain bracket ends immediately after the >> final notes (e fis b cis). I'd like it to extend to the end of the >> measure (to the bar line). Is this possible? I had a similar issue >> previously extending a trill to the end of a measure, and was able to >> solve it by using " \override TrillSpanner #'to-barline = ##t ". Is >> there something similar that I can tweak for the sustain spanner? > > OK, I've made some progress here. Using " \override Staff.PianoPedalBracket > #'shorten-pair = #'(0 . -8.0) " I can manually adjust the length of the pedal > bracket. This allows me to achieve the desired effect. However, it still > seems that there should be a more automatic way to do this -- such as with > the TrillSpanner "to-barline" override. Yes there should be: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1128___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Xavier Scheuer wrote: > > > There is a snippet "Compound time signatures" in the doc, > NR 1.2.3 Displaying rhythms > Time signature > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms.html#time-signature > > Cheers, > Xavier > > Oh!, you may not have understood me well, sorry! I do not want a time signature with (5/8)+(8/8). I would like a time signature that could have some bars with 5 eighth notes and other bars with 8 of them. I have found a better example of what I would like: Scriabin: Prélude Op.11 No.16 (page 26 of this pdf file from the IMSLP:http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/6/62/IMSLP10496-Scriabin_-_Op.11.pdf) Anyway, thank you very much for your reply. Have a nice day! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Mixed-Time-Signatures%3A-Non-regular-alternantion-between-5-8-and-8-8-tp29503895p29504555.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > Hi, > >> How can I engrave one of those mixed time signatures (that is, 5/8 8/8)? > > Override the TimeSignature stencil -- there are examples of how to do this > in the docs and LSR. > > Best regards, > Kieren. > __ > You are telling me to put several 5/8 and 8/8 when required an then make the time signatures invisible, aren't you? Well, that's a good idea, but then, I would like to ask you a couple of questions: 1-The time signature is going to take some place, so how can I fix that? 2-How can I engrave the 5 8 8 signature? P.S. I have found a better example of what I would like: Scriabin: Prélude Op.11 No.16 (page 26 of this pdf file from the IMSLP:http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/6/62/IMSLP10496-Scriabin_-_Op.11.pdf) Anyway, thank you very much for your answer! Best wishes, Fauban -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Mixed-Time-Signatures%3A-Non-regular-alternantion-between-5-8-and-8-8-tp29503895p29504556.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Hi Fauban,
> I would like to ask you a couple of questions:
> 1-The time signature is going to take some place, so how can I fix that?
> 2-How can I engrave the [...] signature?
\version "2.13.29"
#(define ((custom-time-signature one two three four five six) grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup #:override '(baseline-skip . 0) #:number
(#:line ((#:column (one two))
(#:column (three four))
(#:column (five six)))
alternatingTS = \relative c' {
\override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil =
#(custom-time-signature "3" "4" "5" "8" "2" "4")
\time 3/4 c8 c c c c c |
\override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
\time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
\time 2/4 c8 c c c |
\time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
\time 3/4 c8 c c c c c |
}
\score { \alternatingTS }
Hope this helps!
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Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>
>
> ...Yes, but once you've displayed the initial TS, you can just turn off
> the stencil:
>
> \version "2.13.29"
>
> #(define ((custom-time-signature one two three four five six) grob)
>(grob-interpret-markup grob
> (markup #:override '(baseline-skip . 0) #:number
> (#:line ((#:column (one two))
>(#:column (three four))
>(#:column (five six)))
>
> alternatingTS = \relative c' {
> \override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil =
> #(custom-time-signature "3" "4" "5" "8" "2" "4")
> \time 3/4 c8 c c c c c |
> \override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
> \time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
> \time 2/4 c8 c c c |
> \time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
> \time 3/4 c8 c c c c c |
> }
>
> \score { \alternatingTS }
>
> Cheers,
> Kieren.
>
>
Wow! I didn't expect this would be so difficult! You are simply a Genius!
I must admit I don't completely understand this code, but it works!!
Only a last thing: How can I 'end' this mixed-time-signature section? That
is: after those 5 measures, now, how could I add a normal 6/8 section?
Again, thank you very much!!
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Re: Adding a temporal 3rd staff (for only 2 bars) in a Piano Staff
Phil Holmes-2 wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "fauban"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 10:52 AM
> Subject: Adding a temporal 3rd staff (for only 2 bars) in a Piano Staff
>
>
>> Hello Lilypond Community!
>> I am typesetting a piano score.
>> As most keyboard pieces, it begins with 2 staves, but measures 14 and 15
>> would need a 3rd staff over the other two. (I am using the new PianoStaff
>> command)
>>
>> I have tried to make something like an ossia staff, but it's not the
>> same,
>> as its bar lines are not connected to the ones of the two main staves.
>>
>> Here is an example of what I want to do (Debussy: Préludes - Book II,
>> No.1;
>> taken from the IMSLP. Check the 1st page):
>> http://imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/d/dd/IMSLP00510-Debussy_-_Preludes__Book_2.pdf
>
>
> No doubt there are a number of ways of doing this by adding extra staves,
> but the way I would do it is by allowing LilyPond to remove empty staves.
> Here's an example:
>
> \layout {
> \context {
> \RemoveEmptyStaffContext
> \override VerticalAxisGroup #'remove-first = ##t
> }
> }
> {
> <<
> \new PianoStaff <<
> \new Staff {
>\clef "treble"
>\time 4/8
>R1*4/8 |
>\repeat unfold 4 { g''32 ( [ e''32 c''32 b'32 ) ] } |
>R1*4/8 \bar "|."
> }
> \new Staff {
> \clef "treble"
> \time 4/8
> \repeat unfold 4 { b'32 ( [ g'32 e'32 d'32 ) ] } \break |
> \repeat unfold 4 { b'32 ( [ g'32 e'32 d'32 ) ] } \break |
> \repeat unfold 4 { b'32 ( [ g'32 e'32 d'32 ) ] } \break |
> }
> \new Staff {
> \clef "bass"
> \time 4/8
> \repeat unfold 4 { e32 ( [ g32 b32 c'32 ) ] } \break |
> \repeat unfold 4 { e32 ( [ g32 b32 c'32 ) ] } \break |
> \repeat unfold 4 { e32 ( [ g32 b32 c'32 ) ] } \break |
> }
>>>
>>>
> }
>
>
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>
>
Perfect! That's what I was looking for.
Best regards,
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Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Hi Fauban,
> I must admit I don't completely understand this code, but it works!!
Here's a commented version:
\version "2.13.29"
%% Define a function to display custom time signatures
#(define ((custom-time-signature one two three four five six) grob)
(grob-interpret-markup grob
(markup #:override '(baseline-skip . 0) #:number
(#:line ((#:column (one two))
(#:column (three four))
(#:column (five six)))
alternatingTS = \relative c' {
%% display a custom time signature, using the function previously defined
\override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil =
#(custom-time-signature "3" "4" "5" "8" "2" "4")
\time 3/4 c8 c c c c c |
%% ensure that no other time signatures are displayed
\override Score.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
\time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
\time 2/4 c8 c c c |
\time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
\time 3/4 c8 c c c c c |
%% bring back time signatures
\revert Score.TimeSignature #'stencil
\time 6/8 c8 c c c c c |
c8 c c c c c |
\time 5/8 c8 c c c c |
}
\score { \alternatingTS }
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Re: Mixed Time Signatures: Non regular alternantion between 5/8 and 8/8
Am Sonntag, 22. August 2010, um 17:10:07 schrieb fauban: > I must admit I don't completely understand this code, but it works!! Basically, at the beginning, you modify the displayed time signature to display 3/4 5/8 2/4 rather then the default (#'stencil is the graphical object that will be displayed, so you have to construct a line with three fractions, which is what custom-time-signature does), which would be derived from the 3/4 time signature. After that, you don't want any time signatures displayed, even for changes, so you set the display to false. > Only a last thing: How can I 'end' this mixed-time-signature section? That > is: after those 5 measures, now, how could I add a normal 6/8 section? % restore the default display \revert Score.TimeSignature #'stencil \time 6/8 Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Different Raster Size for every page
* James Lowe [2010-08-22 09:24]: Hello On 21/08/2010 19:02, Nils Gey wrote: Thank you for your answer, but it was not a question about setting and printing notation but just a technical one. Well you could simply put a different #(set-global-staff-size XX) For each score on each page I guess? However if you wanted it scaled down so that margins and the like were also 'in scale' then that would have to be taken into account as well. So I'd say it is very technically possible. This doesn't allow changing global-staff-size _within_ a score though, does it? I'm assuming that the difficulty is (for example) getting the last page of the same piece in a different size; in other words resizing on-the-fly to suit the space remaining. -- David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Different Raster Size for every page
2010/8/20 Nils Gey : > Sorry for the confusion. > > What I really mean is a simple question: > I want page 1/2 size 16 and page 2/2 size 18 because its the last page and > has fewer notes. > > Note: Not really "I" but "he" or "someone". For me aestethics would prevent > such a thing, but maybe there really is a case where this is needed to > express the music. I can not imagine one, at least for the same score. We would not allow a text typesetter to print a different character size for the last page just because it has fewer lines. I can, however, imagine a poem book where a short work could be typeset in a greater character height, given it is a standalone piece. Not too pleasant-looking. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Different Raster Size for every page
On 22.08.2010 21:34, Francisco Vila wrote: 2010/8/20 Nils Gey: Sorry for the confusion. What I really mean is a simple question: I want page 1/2 size 16 and page 2/2 size 18 because its the last page and has fewer notes. Note: Not really "I" but "he" or "someone". For me aestethics would prevent such a thing, but maybe there really is a case where this is needed to express the music. I can not imagine one, at least for the same score. We would not allow a text typesetter to print a different character size for the last page just because it has fewer lines. I can, however, imagine a poem book where a short work could be typeset in a greater character height, given it is a standalone piece. Not too pleasant-looking. In real life this is happening quite often - the score of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" is a real nightmare (Dover edition which is a reprint of ???), and even Boosey's edition of Britten's Sinfonia da Requiem (I just opened "the book" at rehearsal mark 40) changes staff size from 5mm to 4mm from one page to the other, so it is not too unusual to ask for? Bernhard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
One line of lyrics, then two lines -> vertical alignment
Hello List I have grazed the ML archive and I (believe to) remember to have seen this question before, but I couldn’t find anything, only other meanings of ”vertical alignment of lyrics“. So I’m just asking again. :-) See the attached image of a page I’d like to set. It is page 2 of a song, which shows that the first part of the song has three stanzas, placed in three lines of lyrics. The forth stanza follows as a single lyrics line. I have already achieved this by using three \lyricsto, where the first one adds stanza 1, the second one adds stanza 2 and 4, and the third adds stanza 3. My problem now is in the last system, where the lyrics part in two lines. I was unable to figure out how to achieve in it the way this page shows it. What is your suggestion, please? -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' What do you call a dead bee? - A was. <> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: One line of lyrics, then two lines -> vertical alignment
On Aug 22, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Hello List > > I have grazed the ML archive and I (believe to) remember to have seen this > question before, but I couldn’t find anything, only other meanings of > ”vertical alignment of lyrics“. So I’m just asking again. :-) > > See the attached image of a page I’d like to set. It is page 2 of a song, > which shows that the first part of the song has three stanzas, placed in > three > lines of lyrics. The forth stanza follows as a single lyrics line. > > I have already achieved this by using three \lyricsto, where the first one > adds stanza 1, the second one adds stanza 2 and 4, and the third adds stanza > 3. > > My problem now is in the last system, where the lyrics part in two lines. I > was unable to figure out how to achieve in it the way this page shows it. > > What is your suggestion, please? > -- Perhaps this from the LSR will help: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: One line of lyrics, then two lines -> vertical alignment
Am Sonntag, 22. August 2010 schrieb James Bailey: > > My problem now is in the last system, where the lyrics part in two lines. > > I was unable to figure out how to achieve in it the way this page shows > > it. > > > > What is your suggestion, please? > Perhaps this from the LSR will help: > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503 Yep, thanks, or to speak with the lyrics: „Schönen Dank“ (”thanks a lot“). :-) The only pity is that, after I researched it for half an hour, I found out that I can’t center-align the first syllable of the lower line, because it starts on a melisma. So I had to left-align the upper line, in order for the two lines to be aligned to each other. This looks a little ugly, but well, I’m glad I’m done with it now. It’s funny that, for almost every piece I set for my choir, I had to research and learn one or two new things about lilypond. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' Programmers don’t die, they GOSUB without RETURN. <> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Different Raster Size for every page
* Bernhard Ott [2010-08-22 23:42]: On 22.08.2010 21:34, Francisco Vila wrote: 2010/8/20 Nils Gey: Sorry for the confusion. What I really mean is a simple question: I want page 1/2 size 16 and page 2/2 size 18 because its the last page and has fewer notes. Note: Not really "I" but "he" or "someone". For me aestethics would prevent such a thing, but maybe there really is a case where this is needed to express the music. I can not imagine one, at least for the same score. We would not allow a text typesetter to print a different character size for the last page just because it has fewer lines. I can, however, imagine a poem book where a short work could be typeset in a greater character height, given it is a standalone piece. Not too pleasant-looking. In real life this is happening quite often - the score of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" is a real nightmare (Dover edition which is a reprint of ???), and even Boosey's edition of Britten's Sinfonia da Requiem (I just opened "the book" at rehearsal mark 40) changes staff size from 5mm to 4mm from one page to the other, so it is not too unusual to ask for? Those are hand-engraved pieces where (it seems clear) the engraver had to make a desperate effort to force-fit the music. The reason that computer notation programs don't do this is that it's a bad idea. It looks better to change the space between staffs, or to print the whole piece at a different size, or even to leave three-quarters of a page empty; any of which are easy to do on a computer, but some of which might be difficult or impossible in a half-finished hand engraving job. But allowing ugly typesetting, for those who are required to use it, is not a crime. If Lilypond implements this capability, the command should perhaps be called something like UgLyMistAKe. -- David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Different Raster Size for every page
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:29 AM, Nils Gey wrote: > Hello list, > > I recently worked together with a publisher who said he can't understand that > there is no option in any notation-software that allows having different > raster sizes (means scaling of objects) for every page. > It is not on me to judge if this is wise, from a typographers point of view, > but I'm sure there is music that benefits of that. > > What about lilyponds possibilities (or opinions) about this issue? It would make page breaking very difficult: page breaks are decided based on horizontal dimensions, which in turn depend on staff size. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Dot collides with flag when using magstep
In guitar scores I usually increase the default stem length to minimise the
amount of manual tweaking needed to prevent fingering indications from being
overlaid by beams (I usually put fingering indications above treble notes and
below bass notes).
If I do this, then in single-staff polyphony, with the treble voice stems
always up, the dot on a dotted B eighth note intersects the flag. For some
reason, it only happens with the note B, and only when I lengthen the stems.
%
\version "2.13.30"
\relative c' {
\time 3/4 \stemUp \autoBeamOff
e8. g8. b8. d8. f8.
\override Stem #'length-fraction = #(magstep 1)
e,8. g8. b8. d8. f8.
}
%
Nick
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Re: Dot collides with flag when using magstep
On Mon 23 Aug 2010, 15:21 Nick Payne wrote:
> If I do this, then in single-staff polyphony, with the treble voice stems
> always up, the dot on a dotted B eighth note intersects the flag. For some
> reason, it only happens with the note B, and only when I lengthen the stems.
>
> %
> \version "2.13.30"
>
> \relative c' {
> \time 3/4 \stemUp \autoBeamOff
> e8. g8. b8. d8. f8.
> \override Stem #'length-fraction = #(magstep 1)
> e,8. g8. b8. d8. f8.
> }
> %
Thank you, added as 1230:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1230
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re:Manuscript Writer To Lilypond convertor
Hello, I'm a CHinese blind musician Hu Haipeng. I have been using Lilypond since 2008, and get many benefit from it. I also know Manuscript Writer, but since it's dos based, I seldom put attention to it. Thank you for developing a tool to convert MWR into Lilypond, but can I discuss something else with you? I (and some people) ever requested the Lilypond Team to develop a tool to convert Lilypond into musicxml. But since most of the users don't need it because of Lily's good output, and the work is not quite easy, the issue was hanged up last year. However, we blind really need one. Because Lilypond is difficult to produce braille, while there are some free tools translating musicxml into braille. Another reason: I just finished my first orchestral piece, and would like to use vst to hear the real sound. But Lilypond's midi output is not suitable for Sibelius and Garritan, and I have to make many specialized tracks which wasted my expensive time. I want to make a demo of my music and share it with others. So, would you like to help us to develop such a tool? I'm not a programmer, but I'm an enthusiastic tester. For more details, please see: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=665&can=1&q=musicxml Regards Haipeng ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
