Re: Trojan Krap.AZ in windows installer
Am 09.05.2010 00:19, schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Lukasz Szydlowski wrote: Hello, Just want to report that according to Panda Antivirus, the windows installer: lilypond-2.12.3-1.mingw.exe is infected with trojan Krap.AZ Your antivirus program is confused. I agree that antivirus programs sometime give false alarms. The windows binaries are created from scratch on a linux machine. There is no way they can be infected with anything. But do you think, you have a absolutely secure working environment because you don't use Windows? Helge ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Trojan Krap.AZ in windows installer
2010/5/9 Helge Kruse : > Am 09.05.2010 00:19, schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: >> The windows binaries are created >> from scratch on a linux machine. There is no way they can be >> infected with anything. > > But do you think, you have a absolutely secure working environment because > you don't use Windows? No, but this is _very_ different from a Linux system creating binaries infected with windows viruses. -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) www.paconet.org , www.csmbadajoz.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Page layout for piano four hands
Dear list/forum, I have written a score of a four hand piano piece. Now I want to produce the 'practical edition', which should be as follows: - The first player gets a 'normal' piano score on the right pages, the second on the left pages - both scores must have identical page breaks, optionally line breaks (I'll have to try both to decide whether it is necessary). Is there a way to produce such a kind of parallel page breaking automatically? If I'd do it by trying and inserting manual \pageBreak-s, I'd have to do this again everytime I change the page or staff size or anything else. (If I end up doing it manually, I would at least use a separate voice for the breaks, that can easily be switched). Using a rigid approach with fixed number of bars per line isn't possible as the material is quite irregular. If I have to produce the two scores separately, is there an option to use only odd/even page numbers for a score? Otherwise I'd have to import the pages individually in a page layout program to produce the final score. I hope this is understandable English. And of course I also hope there is a practical solution for the problem. Thanks in advance for any suggestions Urs P.S. well, actually it's two pianos, eight hands, but that's not that important for the start. In the end I should probably have two books with identical page breaks. No idea how to accomplish this automatically ... -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Page-layout-for-piano-four-hands-tp28501747p28501747.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Ties across staves in a PianoStaff
If I place tied notes in different staves of a PianoStaff, the tie is placed at a quite strange position - and horizontally. for example (within a PianoStaff context, both staves with the same clef): \change Staff = "lower" d2~ \change Staff = "upper" d2 I also come across this problem with chords, so I can't just use a slur instead (which would of course also produce different midi output). Is there any workaround for this? Many thanks Urs -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Ties-across-staves-in-a-PianoStaff-tp28501828p28501828.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Website "easier editing"
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Graham Percival wrote: > Colin Campbell has been working with me on the Introduction of the > new website. However, we're still debating what to do with the > "Easier editing" page: > http://lilypond.org/website/easier-editing.html I think it's fine the way it is now. Perhaps I wouldn't place Denemo above LilyPondTool, although it does make sense to regroup LPT with Frescobaldi. (Actually, what I *would* do is emphasize LPT, perhaps with a big [RECOMMENDED] sign.) Now that I'm looking again at these pages, the pseudo-Windows logo doesn't strike me as self-explanatory (besides its specific touch of ugliness). Would you be ready to consider using a different one, such as http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Image-Vista_Like_logo.png or http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Windows.svg or http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Win-like-userbox.svg ? > When he began working, he had one opinion and I had the other. > But over the past four months, we've switched positions like a > finely-honed comedy act -- we still disagree, but we've both taken > up the other person's initial position. Wait - so you're saying you *can* change your mind at times? :-) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Dear community,
I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg
tremolonotation_2.jpg
The first part of the bar shows the real notes, the second part the
shorthand notation Webern used for the rest of the score.
With
\repeat tremolo 3 { cis g }
I can typeset the note-heads, stems and beams correctly, but not the "9" -
and of course it would still be different music with different midi-output
(straight 8ths instead of triplets).
Is there a way to produce such an irregular tremolo (ending on the initial
note)?
Thanks in advance
Urs
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LilyPond output in other programs
Hi all, this should probably be listed in Usage 4.4: LilyPond can be integrated in Google Wave, WordPress, SPIP and mediawiki. Plug-ins: 1) http://code.google.com/p/lilypondy/ 2) http://scorerender.abelcheung.org/ 3) http://www.spip-contrib.net/Plugin-Lilyspip 4) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LilyPond Cheers patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Am Sonntag, 9. Mai 2010, um 13:36:44 schrieb u_li:
> I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond:
> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg
> tremolonotation_2.jpg
That's not an unusual tremolo, but rather a tremolo combined with a tuplet...
You will have to write both a tuplet (\times) and a tremolo
You should be able to achieve this with
\times 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 {cis8 g }}
Cheers,
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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Hi Urs,
> Is there a way to produce such an irregular tremolo (ending on the initial
> note)?
I might suggest something like:
\version "2.13.18"
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\override TupletBracket #'stencil = ##f
\override TupletNumber #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 0.3)
}
}
dlHalfOn = \override NoteHead #'duration-log = #1
dlHalfOff = \revert NoteHead #'duration-log
tupletStuff = \relative b {
\voiceOne
\time 6/4
\clef bass
\times 2/3 { b8[ e b } \times 2/3 { e b e } \times 2/3 { b e b] } \dlHalfOn
\times 6/9 { e8.*3 b } \dlHalfOff |
}
\score {
\new Staff \tupletStuff
}
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Hi Reinhold:
> You should be able to achieve this with
> \times 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 {cis8 g }}
Nice! My solution was definitely less elegant.
But yours causes a barcheck failure at that duration -- it still needs to be
augmented to be durationally correct:
\version "2.13.18"
tupletStuff = \relative b {
\voiceOne
\time 6/4
\clef bass
\times 2/3 { b8[ e b } \times 2/3 { e b e } \times 2/3 { b e b] } \times 6/9
{ \repeat tremolo 3 { e8*3/2 b }} |
c16 c c c
}
\score {
\new Staff \tupletStuff
}
Cheers,
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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Thanks for the idea.
I don't know If I had tried this before. But: While giving the correct
optical representation, your solution only occupies 2 quarter notes instead
of 3. Because I need 9 eights not six triplets.
I didn't try Kieren's solutions yet (which I'll do afterwards), but while
processing your idea, I got a solution which at least works optically (but
not for midi yet).
\scaleDurations #'(3 . 2) {
\times 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 {cis8 g }}
}
produces what I need, at least on the paper.
Thanks, and now to the other aproach ...
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
>
> Am Sonntag, 9. Mai 2010, um 13:36:44 schrieb u_li:
>> I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond:
>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg
>> tremolonotation_2.jpg
>
> That's not an unusual tremolo, but rather a tremolo combined with a
> tuplet...
> You will have to write both a tuplet (\times) and a tremolo
>
> You should be able to achieve this with
> \times 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 {cis8 g }}
>
>
> Cheers,
> Reinhold
>
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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Hi Kieren,
many thanks for that.
I'll have to go through it again to understand what you did, but apparently
it works now!
Please understand that I don't try to work my way through your first idea
...
It's all quite complicated still ...
Best
Urs
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>
> Hi Reinhold:
>
>> You should be able to achieve this with
>> \times 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 {cis8 g }}
>
> Nice! My solution was definitely less elegant.
>
> But yours causes a barcheck failure at that duration -- it still needs to
> be augmented to be durationally correct:
>
> \version "2.13.18"
>
> tupletStuff = \relative b {
> \voiceOne
> \time 6/4
> \clef bass
> \times 2/3 { b8[ e b } \times 2/3 { e b e } \times 2/3 { b e b] } \times
> 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 { e8*3/2 b }} |
> c16 c c c
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff \tupletStuff
> }
>
> Cheers,
> Kieren.
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Re: LilyPond output in other programs
This is also interesting: http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/music-filter.html On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 13:45 +0200, Patrick Schmidt wrote: > Hi all, > > this should probably be listed in Usage 4.4: > > LilyPond can be integrated in Google Wave, WordPress, SPIP and > mediawiki. > > Plug-ins: > > 1) http://code.google.com/p/lilypondy/ > 2) http://scorerender.abelcheung.org/ > 3) http://www.spip-contrib.net/Plugin-Lilyspip > 4) http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:LilyPond > > Cheers > patrick > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Sorry Kieren,
Now that I looked through your example more closely and understood what it
does, I realized that it does the same as my \scaleDurations solution.
So it still produces six prolonged triplets (i.e. six eights over the
duration of three quarters) instead of nine triplets.
So there is still no - musically correct - solution at hand.
The problem with the tremolo is that in fact the two notes have to be
repeated 4 1/2 times.
As I basically only need to produce printed output, I can use the solution
for now, but I would still like to know if my problem can be solved with
LilyPond (I somewhat dislike workarounds that depend on faulty music).
Best
Urs
Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>
> Hi Reinhold:
>
>> You should be able to achieve this with
>> \times 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 {cis8 g }}
>
> Nice! My solution was definitely less elegant.
>
> But yours causes a barcheck failure at that duration -- it still needs to
> be augmented to be durationally correct:
>
> \version "2.13.18"
>
> tupletStuff = \relative b {
> \voiceOne
> \time 6/4
> \clef bass
> \times 2/3 { b8[ e b } \times 2/3 { e b e } \times 2/3 { b e b] } \times
> 6/9 { \repeat tremolo 3 { e8*3/2 b }} |
> c16 c c c
> }
>
> \score {
> \new Staff \tupletStuff
> }
>
> Cheers,
> Kieren.
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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
I would have assumed that what you have taken as tremolo marks are actually
leger lines - are you sure they're not?
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To:
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Dear community,
I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg
tremolonotation_2.jpg
The first part of the bar shows the real notes, the second part the
shorthand notation Webern used for the rest of the score.
With
\repeat tremolo 3 { cis g }
I can typeset the note-heads, stems and beams correctly, but not the "9" -
and of course it would still be different music with different midi-output
(straight 8ths instead of triplets).
Is there a way to produce such an irregular tremolo (ending on the initial
note)?
Thanks in advance
Urs
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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
Do you talk about the line below the left of the two empty note heads? Yes,
that's a ledger line.
There are no tremolo marks at all in the picture, but the second part of the
bar is meant to continue the pattern of the first part, i.e. 9 alternating
eights with the initial note as the last one.
So it practically is a tremolo.
Any ideas?
Best
Urs
Phil Holmes-2 wrote:
>
> I would have assumed that what you have taken as tremolo marks are
> actually
> leger lines - are you sure they're not?
>
> --
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>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "u_li"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:36 PM
> Subject: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
>
>
>>
>> Dear community,
>>
>> I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond:
>> http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg
>> tremolonotation_2.jpg
>> The first part of the bar shows the real notes, the second part the
>> shorthand notation Webern used for the rest of the score.
>>
>> With
>> \repeat tremolo 3 { cis g }
>> I can typeset the note-heads, stems and beams correctly, but not the "9"
>> -
>> and of course it would still be different music with different
>> midi-output
>> (straight 8ths instead of triplets).
>>
>> Is there a way to produce such an irregular tremolo (ending on the
>> initial
>> note)?
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Urs
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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
OK - so the original author was being lazy by writing it as a shorthand.
Perhaps the simplest thing would be to repeat the first set of 3 triplets to
make the second half of the bar?
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To:
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
Do you talk about the line below the left of the two empty note heads?
Yes,
that's a ledger line.
There are no tremolo marks at all in the picture, but the second part of
the
bar is meant to continue the pattern of the first part, i.e. 9 alternating
eights with the initial note as the last one.
So it practically is a tremolo.
Any ideas?
Best
Urs
Phil Holmes-2 wrote:
I would have assumed that what you have taken as tremolo marks are
actually
leger lines - are you sure they're not?
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From: "u_li"
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Dear community,
I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg
tremolonotation_2.jpg
The first part of the bar shows the real notes, the second part the
shorthand notation Webern used for the rest of the score.
With
\repeat tremolo 3 { cis g }
I can typeset the note-heads, stems and beams correctly, but not the "9"
-
and of course it would still be different music with different
midi-output
(straight 8ths instead of triplets).
Is there a way to produce such an irregular tremolo (ending on the
initial
note)?
Thanks in advance
Urs
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Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Maybe that's how to characterise it ;-)
This simplest thing is what I originally did, but it uses way too much space
- which probably is one of the reasons "the author" (Anton Webern) did it
like this in the first place.
As mentioned in another post I stick with the musically wrong but optically
correct version.
Best
Urs
Phil Holmes-2 wrote:
>
> OK - so the original author was being lazy by writing it as a shorthand.
> Perhaps the simplest thing would be to repeat the first set of 3 triplets
> to
> make the second half of the bar?
>
> --
> Phil Holmes
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "u_li"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 3:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
>
>
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
>> Do you talk about the line below the left of the two empty note heads?
>> Yes,
>> that's a ledger line.
>> There are no tremolo marks at all in the picture, but the second part of
>> the
>> bar is meant to continue the pattern of the first part, i.e. 9
>> alternating
>> eights with the initial note as the last one.
>> So it practically is a tremolo.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Best
>> Urs
>>
>>
>> Phil Holmes-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> I would have assumed that what you have taken as tremolo marks are
>>> actually
>>> leger lines - are you sure they're not?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Phil Holmes
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "u_li"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 12:36 PM
>>> Subject: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
>>>
>>>
Dear community,
I have an unusual tremolo notation to typeset with LilyPond:
http://old.nabble.com/file/p28502145/tremolonotation_2.jpg
tremolonotation_2.jpg
The first part of the bar shows the real notes, the second part the
shorthand notation Webern used for the rest of the score.
With
\repeat tremolo 3 { cis g }
I can typeset the note-heads, stems and beams correctly, but not the
"9"
-
and of course it would still be different music with different
midi-output
(straight 8ths instead of triplets).
Is there a way to produce such an irregular tremolo (ending on the
initial
note)?
Thanks in advance
Urs
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Re: Ties across staves in a PianoStaff
I don't think you really should do this, as it is musically incorrect. Whenever there is a tie or a slur across staves it is treated as a slur, and in fact, sometimes repeated notes that are slurred are placed on different staves and slurred. In other words, it would cause much confusion. Maybe try slurring the notes and placing a markup saying tie over the middle section of the slur; I don't now how to do this but there is probably someone somewhere who does and wrote a snippet. u_li wrote: > > If I place tied notes in different staves of a PianoStaff, the tie is > placed at a quite strange position - and horizontally. > for example (within a PianoStaff context, both staves with the same clef): > > \change Staff = "lower" > d2~ > \change Staff = "upper" > d2 > > I also come across this problem with chords, so I can't just use a slur > instead (which would of course also produce different midi output). > > Is there any workaround for this? > > Many thanks > Urs > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Ties-across-staves-in-a-PianoStaff-tp28501828p28503770.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Am Sonntag, 9. Mai 2010, um 17:04:12 schrieb Phil Holmes: > OK - so the original author was being lazy by writing it as a shorthand. Actually, it's not so much about being lazy, but about telling the performer that are really only two notes involved. If you have 9 consecutive 8th notes, you'll need to check each one when the pitch changes. With tremolo notation you know there are only two pitches involved. > Perhaps the simplest thing would be to repeat the first set of 3 triplets > to make the second half of the bar? It might be easier to write, but harder to read. Tremolo notation is a very common shorthand for string instruments. If you have several lines of identical 16th notes is very hard to count measures (and keep track with your eyes) and to see when things change. Using tremolo shorthand notation makes it much easier and much shorter and much less cluttered Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ties across staves in a PianoStaff
Am Sonntag, 9. Mai 2010, um 18:24:45 schrieb searchfgold: > I don't think you really should do this, as it is musically incorrect. > Whenever there is a tie or a slur across staves it is treated as a slur, I encountered this very problem with Vierne's Messe Solennelle (for choir and two organs). There the tie across the two right-hand staves is really a tie and not a repeatet note with slur. Cheers, Reinhold -- -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond output in other programs
Am 2010-05-09 um 13:45 schrieb Patrick Schmidt: this should probably be listed in Usage 4.4: LilyPond can be integrated in Google Wave, WordPress, SPIP and mediawiki. Of course you can include LilyPond PDFs into "everything", like print layouts (Scribus, InDesign, XPress...) Greetlings from Lake Constance --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Page layout for piano four hands
Is there a way to produce such a kind of parallel page breaking automatically? Alas no. Perhaps you can get some tricks in the archives http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/ with search-key "piano four hands" You 'll probably need some tools like that : http://www.angusj.com/pdftkb/#pdftkbuilder Good luck Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Page layout for piano four hands
I'm sorry to read that. Anyway, to keep things as simple as possible, I will put the page breaks in a variable in a separate file. Then I will be able to switch them easily by just commenting (out) a few \include lines when changing layout. (Just in case someone else stumbles on this post ...) Best Urs Am 09.05.2010 21:43, schrieb Gilles THIBAULT: Is there a way to produce such a kind of parallel page breaking automatically? Alas no. Perhaps you can get some tricks in the archives http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/ with search-key "piano four hands" You 'll probably need some tools like that : http://www.angusj.com/pdftkb/#pdftkbuilder Good luck Gilles ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Irregular "9-tuplet" tremolo notation
Thanks Reinhold, that is very much what there is to it Am 09.05.2010 18:41, schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer: Am Sonntag, 9. Mai 2010, um 17:04:12 schrieb Phil Holmes: OK - so the original author was being lazy by writing it as a shorthand. Actually, it's not so much about being lazy, but about telling the performer that are really only two notes involved. If you have 9 consecutive 8th notes, you'll need to check each one when the pitch changes. With tremolo notation you know there are only two pitches involved. Exactly. Especially if there are many of these groups with only small changes over some time. Perhaps the simplest thing would be to repeat the first set of 3 triplets to make the second half of the bar? It might be easier to write, but harder to read. Tremolo notation is a very common shorthand for string instruments. If you have several lines of identical 16th notes is very hard to count measures (and keep track with your eyes) and to see when things change. Using tremolo shorthand notation makes it much easier and much shorter and much less cluttered Yes, that's very true, also for my problem at hand. That said, the original problem is basically not solved yet: Is it possible to have a tremolo that doesn't repeat a pair of notes for a regular number of times? Best Urs Cheers, Reinhold ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ties across staves in a PianoStaff
While I understand your objections, I have these examples in a score I have to typeset: http://old.nabble.com/file/p28505454/des.jpg des.jpg http://old.nabble.com/file/p28505454/double.jpg double.jpg They are from an unknown copyist after a score by Webern, and it may well be decided (by me and others) to respect their setting because after all it is telling us something. In the first example I could just use a slur instead of a tie (as long as I'm only interested in the printed output). But how would I achieve the two ties in the second example? As I understand it, slurs are drawn only once in a chord, while I can tie individual notes within a chord. Do I have to split the chord (f#/b) in two voices to be able to slur them separately? Best Urs searchfgold wrote: > > I don't think you really should do this, as it is musically incorrect. > Whenever there is a tie or a slur across staves it is treated as a slur, > and in fact, sometimes repeated notes that are slurred are placed on > different staves and slurred. In other words, it would cause much > confusion. Maybe try slurring the notes and placing a markup saying tie > over the middle section of the slur; I don't now how to do this but there > is probably someone somewhere who does and wrote a snippet. > Great topic! > > u_li wrote: >> >> If I place tied notes in different staves of a PianoStaff, the tie is >> placed at a quite strange position - and horizontally. >> for example (within a PianoStaff context, both staves with the same >> clef): >> >> \change Staff = "lower" >> d2~ >> \change Staff = "upper" >> d2 >> >> I also come across this problem with chords, so I can't just use a slur >> instead (which would of course also produce different midi output). >> >> Is there any workaround for this? >> >> Many thanks >> Urs >> > > -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Ties-across-staves-in-a-PianoStaff-tp28501828p28505454.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: strange subdivideBeams behaviour?
On 5/9/10 6:02 PM, "Bernhard Ott" wrote: > Hi, > I just had a hard time making "subdivideBeams" work: the subdivision > always started with an offset. I had a look at the beam-settings.scm and > I really can't figure out, why the "my" redefinition via > \overrideBeamSettings changes anything (makes things work): > What am I missing? I can't see that you are missing anything. I believe this is a bug. Please file a report on bugs-lilypond, with only the first measure of your example. Thanks, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
