Re: Reading the LM
Jonathan
Thanks for your comments. For the present you
can continue sending them to this list. An
editor can easily pick them from here. See
below for my responses.
Trevor
- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan Wilkes"
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 7:36 PM
Subject: Reading the LM
Hello,
Since the new LM looks so good, I've decided to take another
attempt
at learning (and regularly using) lilypond for my scores.
Two questions:
1. I'm making errata as I go (using version 2.13.2). Yahoo
isn't
letting me attach files for some reason, so here's an example:
1.1 Background
6th paragraph
"so nitpicking about typographical details may seem academical."
to
"so nitpicking typographical details may seem academic."
I'll fix it, thanks.
It's not as verbose as the example given on the website for
changes to
documentation. But is this format clear? Also, should I just post
everything on the list when I'm done, or send it to someone
directly?
Perfectly clear.
2. In 2.2.6, partial measures and gracenotes are covered. In the
previous
chapter, autobeaming is covered. Put them all together and, wham!
A partial measure starting with a gracenote turns off autobeaming,
even
if it's explicitly turned on:
\relative c' {
\key c \minor
\partial 8
\grace ais8
b8
\autoBeamOn
c d ees f g aes bes c
}
I saw one archived message about this, but no replies, and I
couldn't
find it listed as a bug on the google code page. Should this be
added
to the list of bugs, or am I overlooking something?
Placing grace notes at the start of a piece
causes all sorts of problems, most of them
well known. There are warnings in the main
documentation, the Notation Reference.
I'm not sure what should be done in the Learning
Manual. Maybe grace notes should not be mentioned
at all there. Comments from others appreciated.
Thanks, and looking forward to getting deeper into using Lilypond,
Thank you - looking forward to more comments.
-Jonathan
Trevor
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Re: new website draft 5: help wanted, I mean it
On do, 2009-07-09 at 21:55 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html Oh, one minor thing: I notice that the urls are all in the form /lilypond-general_[NUMBER].html Can this be fixed? We really must have stable url names (think google), and sensible url names, ie /introduction/features.html instead of lilypond_general_3.html#Features ... Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter Avatar®: http://AvatarAcademy.nl| http://lilypond.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Saving
On 12.07.2009, at 19:12, Serena Brown wrote: Installed it tells you save the window that comes up Can't see where to go to do that Moved to lilypond-user@gnu.org since this isn't a bug. What operating system and LilyPond version are you using? Have you seen the instructions at • http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/FAQ (click on the link "Where is the app") - Windows • http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/Mac - Mac OSX 10.5 • http://wiki.lilynet.net/index.php/Where_is_the_app%3F_(Linux) - Linux James E. Bailey ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: ANN: LilyPondTool 2.12.858 Release Candidate
there's something odd in the Plugins/Lilypondtool/Block Menu:
{} , [] and () come out as <>, and
\( \) as << >>, and
\< \! becomes \> \!
regards
Arne Peters
(using JEdit on WinXP SP3)
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Insert line breaks in headers
Hello. I'd like to enter a composer's name into the header of a piece. The name is spelled both in english and japanese and since both are large I need to insert a line brake so one name stands just above the other in the usual place in the page. Can you advise me on how to do this? Thanks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Insert line breaks in headers
Something like this should work:
title = \markup { \center-column { "First Title" \line { "Second Title" } }
}
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Formatting-text#Text-alignment
Jon
2009/7/12 Jesús Guillermo Andrade
> Hello. I'd like to enter a composer's name into the header of a piece. The
> name is spelled both in english and japanese and since both are large I need
> to insert a line brake so one name stands just above the other in the usual
> place in the page.
> Can you advise me on how to do this?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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RE: LilyPondTool 2.12.858 Release Candidate
Since installing 2.12.858 I am quite frequently getting a permission denied error at the point where Lilypond tries to generate the PDF from the PS: Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/backend-library.scm:115:15: In procedure delete-file in expression (delete-file pdf-name): c:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/backend-library.scm:115:15: Permission denied If I go to Windows Explorer and try to delete the PDF from there I get an error message saying that it can't be done because the file is open by Java. Usually, closing and reopening jEdit fixes the problem, but a couple of times it hasn't and I have to kill javaw.exe with Task Manager to get things back on track. Nick > -Original Message- > From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org > [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On > Behalf Of Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) > Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2009 12:00 AM > To: lilypond > Subject: ANN: LilyPondTool 2.12.858 Release Candidate > > Hi, > > thanks to the bug hunters, I created an improved, fixed, shinier > version > of LilyPondTool. > This is the Release Candidate before I release this to the jEdit plugin > repository for the widest public. > It contains some enhancements and many fixes, especially for the PDF > viewer. Now you can turn the page back and not just forward for example > :) (Though I just found a bug about turning the page, then clicking on > a > note.) > > Download it from: > https://sourceforge.net/projects/lily4jedit/files/lily4jedit/lily4jedit > -2.12.858.zip/download > > And unzip to the jEdit settings folder: $HOME/.jEdit, where $HOME is > you > home folder > > In the final release there will be documentation as well :) > > Cheers, > > Bert > > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.9/2228 - Release Date: > 07/09/09 18:07:00 ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Insert line breaks in headers
Something like:
\header {
composer = \markup {
\column \right-align {
"English Name"
\lower #1 "Japanese Name"
}
}
}
Nick
> -Original Message-
> From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On
> Behalf Of Jesús Guillermo Andrade
> Sent: Monday, 13 July 2009 7:15 AM
> To: lilypond
> Subject: Insert line breaks in headers
>
> Hello. I'd like to enter a composer's name into the header of a piece.
> The name is spelled both in english and japanese and since both are
> large I need to insert a line brake so one name stands just above the
> other in the usual place in the page.
> Can you advise me on how to do this?
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Lilypond and Jazz chords
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Fedoruk Date: Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords To: "Carl D. Sorensen" Hello: I've seen a number of people talking about the "right" way to name chords used in jazz. The problem is that there is no one right way currently. Jazz chords come under the classification of performance practice, passed down from teacher to student and from musican to musician over the decades. It is only an approxamation of what chords are actually played. You can make all the methods and naming schemes you want but in the end, what counts is what jazz musicans themselves are using. My breif encounters with one person currenty working in the business with a piano jazz trio has told me that he has problems with almost all the current schemes. The problems all have to do with cllarity and readability. Chord symbols which stretch out horizontally are aproblem because when there are multiple chord changes per bar or changes per beat, it is all but impossible to read beause of the collisions. The closest to readabilty from the scores or publications I brought with me that day was the ones called "The New Real Book". IT is continuing series of fake books with tunes that are well researched as to which chords are actuallyused. Often the arrangements are ones which the best jazz musicans themselves used. The system these books use is based upon "Standard chord System Notation" by Brandt and Roemer. The Real series are all well documented in the front of the book with charts and explanations. However my jazz musican still had quibbles because he thought that the interval alterations should be in a column right beside the chord name. Also that any bass notes should be written as a staight line under the chord name. That said, it is his opinion, it may carry more weight because he is actually a playing musician. Remember also that these chord symbols were originally not typeset, but were always hand written into scores by the arrangers. They had their own shorthand. Another example is Bill Evans "PeriScope" which he scribbled on a small menu from the Village Vanguard. Perhaps the most we can hope for is a system which is easy enough to manipulate at our level that we can make them look as we wish them to look. As a pianist who sometimes has to read these lead sheets, my impressions whenI'm at the keyboard are vastly different from when I am simply reading the score. em7flat5 writtin with the flat symbol means more to me when I'nm att the keyboard than a circle with a slash through it. I actually think about only the note I have to alter and not the whole chord. In many cases its just a move of a semitone. So, my opinion on how these chords should be written has changed as I've had to use them at my instrument. My jazzz musician with the piano jazz trio had never seen the triangle symbol used at all. He said he wouldn't have a clue what to play if he saw that. We aren't dealing with something for which we have hundreds of years of written and printed scores from which to figure out the "Right" way ... we have only what musicians are doing currently. The original BerkLee Real Fake book is no longer available, nor are some of the others. These fake books have to have thousands of clearances to be ablel to put these books together as they are and be able to be legally sold. Since Jazz is actually now taught in some colleges and universities that may be a source of information. I think that today I willl visit my local music store and see how manyh different chord symbol systems I can find. One comment about the bass notes indicated under the chord name.. apparently it has implications for others who would see that as ann indication of polytonal music. I hadn't heard of that. However, after I've spent a few hours looking through the books I have at home the one thing I did ntoivce was that I had trouble figuring out which was the chord and which was the bass note. Perhaps a soloution is to make that bass note indication smaller than the main chord and still bold it, like the main chord is now. That would make it distiguishable from the chord name and also keep it as distinct from all the other alterations. Several tunes I found had three altered base nsotes in a row. After playing the tune,, I understood why those notes were indicated, they were really necessary, but they cluttered the score far to much, They could have been made clearer than they were. If I had to sight read that score it would definitely throw me off. The thing I've come to understand about this problem is that there just isn't a single right answer. There are many systems and Lilypond cannot impliment them all. I think the best solution is to impliment a scheme by which we can tweak the Lilypond system to look and work the way we need it to look. I'll probably think of more things to say but I think I've said enough for now. My request now, is for flexibility
Re: website draft 5, help wanted
Hmm, Hello everybody: I think this is my fifth post in this list eversince I joined you (a year or so from now). I have been watching the evolution of the thread about the need of contributors and I thought I might have give a hand. I'm not an engineer or a very skilled techie (I used to work with simple databases with some perl programs to reformat text into something else), I use latex since I was a teenager and started with linux using one of the first versions of Slackware (when one had to do everything by hand with X /dev and the usual crashes everytime there was a new kernel module to install and test). Anyways, those days are gone by (I earn my living as an attorney), and I mostly work with Macses. Im learning lilypond as I go as student of the Conservatorio Vicente Emilio Sojo and, well, if there is something I could do to help, please let me know. I can translate to/from spanish and perhaps help with some html. If I have to learn git in order to help, I'll try. Thanks ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond and Jazz chords
Hi, I've seen a number of people talking about the "right" way to name chords used in jazz. The problem is that there is no one right way currently. I agree. However my jazz musican still had quibbles because he thought that the interval alterations should be in a column right beside the chord name. Also that any bass notes should be written as a staight line under the chord name. If you write it in this way, I might interpret it as a poly chord. So, my opinion on how these chords should be written has changed as I've had to use them at my instrument. My jazzz musician with the piano jazz trio had never seen the triangle symbol used at all. He said he wouldn't have a clue what to play if he saw that. I think most of experience musicians could guess what the triangle means from chord progression or theme even if they didn't know. Personally I don't like the triangle symbol but looks to me many people who write sheets by hand tend to use the triangle symbol. Of course, supporting all major chord notation systems would be nice but I guess that's too hard. ( I have never used the commercial notation software. What do they support? ) Following the most popular fake book sounds reasonable to me. "The Real Book by Hal Leonard" is popular around me, btw. - kzt ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPondTool 2.12.858 Release Candidate
Nick Payne wrote: > If I go to Windows Explorer and try to delete the PDF from there > I get an error message saying that it can't be done because the > file is open by Java. Usually, closing and reopening jEdit fixes > the problem, but a couple of times it hasn't and I have to kill > javaw.exe with Task Manager to get things back on track. +1 - Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
