Re: Persian fonts
2009/3/17 patrick duka : > Hi Kees, > "I hope the developers will add the Persian accidentals in the next Lilypond > version", > even though it seems obvious that they will, I plan to post a message in > that sense (I don't know where to make this kind of request yet). I think this request is already officially registered: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=738 Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
default margins
The default margins for a4 seem a little too narrow. The normal I see in scores is about 2 cm wide. If the margins are only 1 cm thick, the page seems too crowded. Also it is a legibility issue: usually for text, the lenght of a line should not exceed 50–70 characters, otherwise the eye has trouble finding the next line. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: (de)cresendi syntax
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 10:41:36AM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > > Graham Percival wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure why we have both \cr and \<. If the two really are equivalent, >>> one ought to be deprecated before it is ultimately removed. >> >> I have a vague notion that \cr *was* deprecated. >> > No! If you look in ly/spanners-init.ly, you will see that \cr is used > internally in \cresc > (though that's easy to fix, of course). Sorry. You know, I now have a vague notion that we've had this conversation before. I really need to start keeping better notes while I advance into my old age. :) Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Transparent ledger lines
Carl Sorensen-3 wrote: > > > > > On 3/17/09 6:37 PM, "Ari Torhamo" wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I have been wrestling with a problem for a while. I'm using these two >> lines >> >>\override Voice.NoteHead #'transparent = ##t >>\override Voice.Stem #'transparent = ##t >> >> to make certain note heads and stems transparent. This works fine, but >> the problem is that the ledger lines connected to them stay visible. I >> have tried several things to get rid of the ledger lines too, but >> haven't found the solution. >> >> I think these are what I have tried so far: >> >> \override Staff.LedgerLine #'transparent = ##t >> \override Staff.Ledger #'transparent = ##t >> \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t >> \override Voice.LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t >> \override Voice.LedgerLine #'transparent = ##t >> \override Voice.Ledger #'transparent = ##t >> \override LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t >> \override NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t > > > From the command hideNotes (which is found in the file > ly/property-init.ly) > I found that the property you want to use is > > \override NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t > > Carl > > yes - but only if you put it in the right context… in this case this is the Voice context: \score { \context Staff="1" { \context Voice="1" { \override NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t c''' } } } -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Transparent-ledger-lines-tp22570836p22580984.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Transparent ledger lines
ke, 2009-03-18 kello 06:13 -0600, Carl D. Sorensen kirjoitti: > > > On 3/17/09 7:17 PM, "Ari Torhamo" wrote: > > > ti, 2009-03-17 kello 18:43 -0600, Carl D. Sorensen kirjoitti: > >> > >> > >> On 3/17/09 6:37 PM, "Ari Torhamo" wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I have been wrestling with a problem for a while. I'm using these two > >>> lines > >>> > >>>\override Voice.NoteHead #'transparent = ##t > >>>\override Voice.Stem #'transparent = ##t > >>> > >>> to make certain note heads and stems transparent. This works fine, but > >>> the problem is that the ledger lines connected to them stay visible. I > >>> have tried several things to get rid of the ledger lines too, but > >>> haven't found the solution. > >>> > >>> I think these are what I have tried so far: > >>> > >>> \override Staff.LedgerLine #'transparent = ##t > >>> \override Staff.Ledger #'transparent = ##t > >>> \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t > >>> \override Voice.LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t > >>> \override Voice.LedgerLine #'transparent = ##t > >>> \override Voice.Ledger #'transparent = ##t > >>> \override LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t > >>> \override NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t > >> > >> > >>> From the command hideNotes (which is found in the file > >>> ly/property-init.ly) > >> I found that the property you want to use is > >> > >> \override NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t > >> > >> Carl > > > > Thanks Carl. I actually tried this already, as you can see from my list > > above, but it's good that you took this up again, because it seems that > > I wasn't looking at the error message I got close enough. The "override" > > part goes well, but when I try to set the ledger lines back to visible > > with > > > > \revert Voice.NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##t > > > > I get this: > > > > Kr.kirk.ly:39:39: virhe: syntax error, unexpected '=' > >\revert Voice.NoteHead #'no-ledgers > >= ##t > > > > I need transparency for the ledger lines only temporarily, so I'd like > > to know how to revert the change. Any ideas? > > Just use > > \revert Voice.NoteHead #'no-ledgers > > When you use \revert, you don't give a value; the value is the default > value. > > You could also use > > \override Voice.NoteHead #'no-ledgers = ##f This worked. Thanks very much, Carl :-) -Ari- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
cross-staff voice indication
Hi list, I am looking for a possibility to print glissando-like lines between consecutive notes in different voices, which are potentially located in different staves. This is often done in polyphonic piano music to indicate a change of staff in a particular part of a fugue. (In German we call these "Stimmweiser". I am not sure whether "voice pointers" would be the appropriate translation - any ideas?) Do I have to misuse \glissando a la e2 \glissando f \once \override Glissando #'(bound-details right Y) = #-2 e2 \glissando f or \override Glissando #'breakable = ##t \override Glissando #'(bound-details right-broken Y) = #-3 c1 \glissando \break f1 or is there a better solution? Your suggestions are as always highly appreciated. best, flo.H ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff voice indication
See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Common-notation-for-keyboards#Staff_002dchange-lines /Mats Quoting Florian Hollerweger : Hi list, I am looking for a possibility to print glissando-like lines between consecutive notes in different voices, which are potentially located in different staves. This is often done in polyphonic piano music to indicate a change of staff in a particular part of a fugue. (In German we call these "Stimmweiser". I am not sure whether "voice pointers" would be the appropriate translation - any ideas?) Do I have to misuse \glissando a la e2 \glissando f \once \override Glissando #'(bound-details right Y) = #-2 e2 \glissando f or \override Glissando #'breakable = ##t \override Glissando #'(bound-details right-broken Y) = #-3 c1 \glissando \break f1 or is there a better solution? Your suggestions are as always highly appreciated. best, flo.H ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff voice indication
Boy, do I love free software! 30 minutes from question to answer. You guys are amazing, thanks Mats! best, flo.H Mats Bengtsson wrote: See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Common-notation-for-keyboards#Staff_002dchange-lines ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Cross Staff Stems
Hello While the documentation explains that these vars need to be changed in order to produce croll-staff stems: % stems may overlap the other staff \override Stem #'cross-staff = ##t % extend the stems to reach other other staff \override Stem #'length = #12 % do not print extra flags \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag There isn't any hint on how to turn it off. While I guess that the first variable should be turned off ##f, there isn't information about the default length. Also, I tried to do this lexically, using { } to delimit this portion, but it seems this is not properly Perl :) Any help is welcome. Thanks Alberto -- Alberto Simões - Departamento de Informática - Universidade do Minho Campus de Gualtar - 4710-057 Braga - Portugal ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Can't have Lilypond-book work in Windows XP
I can't have lilypond-book work in any way, even test environment I tried to create this test.tex file in my c:\test directory: \documentclass[]{article} \begin{document} Normal LaTeX text. \begin{lilypond} \relative c'' { a4 b c d } \end{lilypond} More LaTeX text. \begin{lilypond} \relative c'' { d4 c b a } \end{lilypond} \end{document} --- Then I go like this: C:\test>lilypond-book --pdf test.tex with this result: lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.12.2 Reading test.tex... Running latex...This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (MiKTeX 2.7) entering extended mode (c:/docume~1/tom/impost~1/temp/tmplzlwkb.tex LaTeX2e <2005/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh yphenation, german, ngerman, german-x-2008-06-18, ngerman-x-2008-06-18, spanish , catalan, french, ancientgreek, italian, latin, portuguese, ukenglish, loaded. ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.3 ´ ╗┐\documentclass[]{article} ("C:\Programmi\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\latex\base\article.cls" Document Class: article 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class ("C:\Programmi\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\latex\base\size10.clo") Overfull \hbox (20.0pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 3--284 [] [1]) No file tmplzlwkb.aux. textwidth=345.0pt columnsep=10.0pt (tmplzlwkb.aux) ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Output written on tmplzlwkb.dvi (1 page, 212 bytes). Transcript written on tmplzlwkb.log. command failed: latex c:\docume~1\tom\impost~1\temp\tmplzlwkb.tex Child returned 1 --- So I tried the second way described in the docs, (lilypond-book test.tex) but the output is the same. Can someone tell me how to achieve a controlled lilypond-book test? Thanks! - Piero Faustini, PhD student Dipartimento di Scienze Storiche Sezione musicologia Università di Ferrara Software used: - LyX 1.6.1 on WinXP; EndNote & JabRef - MikTex - LaTeX class: Koma book - Lilypond and MusixTeX for example excerpts - BibLaTeX for bibliographies -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-have-Lilypond-book-work-in-Windows-XP-tp22590465p22590465.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can't have Lilypond-book work in Windows XP
Sorry, this is the (readable) quoted message: I can't have lilypond-book work in any way, even test environment I tried to create this test.tex file in my c:\test directory: \documentclass[]{article} \begin{document} Normal LaTeX text. \begin{lilypond} \relative c'' { a4 b c d } \end{lilypond} More LaTeX text. \begin{lilypond} \relative c'' { d4 c b a } \end{lilypond} \end{document} --- Then I go like this: C:\test>lilypond-book --pdf test.tex with this result: lilypond-book.py (GNU LilyPond) 2.12.2 Reading test.tex... Running latex...This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (MiKTeX 2.7) entering extended mode (c:/docume~1/tom/impost~1/temp/tmplzlwkb.tex LaTeX2e <2005/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh yphenation, german, ngerman, german-x-2008-06-18, ngerman-x-2008-06-18, spanish , catalan, french, ancientgreek, italian, latin, portuguese, ukenglish, loaded. ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.3 ´ ╗┐\documentclass[]{article} ("C:\Programmi\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\latex\base\article.cls" Document Class: article 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class ("C:\Programmi\MiKTeX 2.7\tex\latex\base\size10.clo") Overfull \hbox (20.0pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 3--284 [] [1]) No file tmplzlwkb.aux. textwidth=345.0pt columnsep=10.0pt (tmplzlwkb.aux) ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Output written on tmplzlwkb.dvi (1 page, 212 bytes). Transcript written on tmplzlwkb.log. command failed: latex c:\docume~1\tom\impost~1\temp\tmplzlwkb.tex Child returned 1 --- So I tried the second way described in the docs, (lilypond-book test.tex) but the output is the same. Can someone tell me how to achieve a controlled lilypond-book test? Thanks! - Piero Faustini, PhD student Dipartimento di Scienze Storiche Sezione musicologia Università di Ferrara Software used: - LyX 1.6.1 on WinXP; EndNote & JabRef - MikTex - LaTeX class: Koma book - Lilypond and MusixTeX for example excerpts - BibLaTeX for bibliographies -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-have-Lilypond-book-work-in-Windows-XP-tp22590465p22590482.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: jEdit Lilytool: Questions midi tool broken? autocomplet?
2009/3/17 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : > I hope that sooner or later Valentin will able to create a new EasyLilyPond > package to make better jEdit/LilyPondTool user experience ;-) Absolutely, but since I'm trying to deliver a multi-platform solution this time, it might be later rather than sooner :-) Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff voice indication
Hi, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > See >http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Common-notation-for-keyboards#Staff_002dchange-lines It seems that staff-change lines do not work whenever they have to operate in a voice context (version 2.10.33)? I am attaching a minimal example, which does not succeed unless the line \new Voice "myvoice { and the according closing bracket are commented out. Is there a workaround for this situation? best, flo.H --- BEGIN MINIMAL EXAMPLE --- \version "2.10.33" \header { % Header needs to go _after_ musical expressions! title = "Staff Change with Voices" } \score { \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = "one" \relative c' { \showStaffSwitch \new Voice = "myvoice" {% TRY ALSO WITH THIS LINE... c2 r2 % ... \change Staff = "two" % ... b2 a% ... } % ... AND THIS LINE COMMENTED! } \new Staff = "two" { \clef bass s1*2 } >> \layout { } } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff voice indication
2009/3/18 Florian Hollerweger : > Boy, do I love free software! 30 minutes from question to answer. > > You guys are amazing, thanks Mats! Actually, this is not *just* Free Software, it is LilyPond :-) (... and it's not just LilyPond, it's Mats !) Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff voice indication
2009/3/19 Florian Hollerweger : (sorry, I missed your second mail) > It seems that staff-change lines do not work whenever they have to operate > in a voice context (version 2.10.33)? Actually, it's the opposite: followVoice or showStaffSwitch only work at a Voice level. But in your example, you created a new Voice context just afterwards, so the setting was ignored. > \new Staff = "one" \relative c' { > \showStaffSwitch > \new Voice = "myvoice" { % TRY ALSO WITH THIS LINE... This is where you were wrong: since \showStaffSwitch already created a Voice context (implicitly), you actually created a new one just afterwards, and therefore the setting was ignored. Try putting \showStaffSwitch *after* having created your Voice (i.e. in the "myvoice" block). Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff voice indication
Hi, I'm not letting go just yet, though. I have a 4-part-piano fugue situation here where at one spot, the "alto" voice switches to the "tenor" position and the "soprano" takes the thus vacant place of the "alto" (obviously a new "soprano" voice is introduced at the same spot as well) I would like to indicate the latter change with a line as well, but that change does not cause a switch of that voice between _staves_ (only its "position" within the right-hand-staff). Valentin Villenave wrote: > Actually, it's the opposite: followVoice or showStaffSwitch only work > at a Voice level. The "followVoice" thing sounds already promising, but I can't get find anything useful in the documentation. If this can still be done without a dirty hack, then I'll have to open a bottle of champagne! Any ideas? best, flo.H ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Cross Staff Stems
On 3/18/09 4:17 PM, "Alberto Simões" wrote: > Hello > > While the documentation explains that these vars need to be changed in > order to produce croll-staff stems: > > % stems may overlap the other staff > \override Stem #'cross-staff = ##t > % extend the stems to reach other other staff > \override Stem #'length = #12 > % do not print extra flags > \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag > > There isn't any hint on how to turn it off. > While I guess that the first variable should be turned off ##f, > there isn't information about the default length. You can always undo any \override with a \revert \revert Stem #'cross-staff \revert Stem #'length \revert Stem #'flag-style > > Also, I tried to do this lexically, using { } to delimit this portion, > but it seems this is not properly Perl :) > \overrides are not applied to notes, but to contexts. When an \override is applied, it is applied to every music object in that context at that moment. So I were to try something like: << {c4 d e f} {\override NoteHead #'transparent = ##t e4 f g a'} >> all the NoteHeads will be transparent, not just those in the first sequential block. On the other hand, if I were to do << \new Voice {c4 d e f} \new Voice {\override Voice.NoteHead #'transparent = ##t e4 f g a'} >> only the second voice would have transparent NoteHeads. HTH, Carl ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can't have Lilypond-book work in Windows XP
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 03:58:41PM -0700, MonAmiPierrot wrote: > > I can't have lilypond-book work in any way, even test environment > > I tried to create this test.tex file in my c:\test directory: > > [...] > > Then I go like this: > > C:\test>lilypond-book --pdf test.tex What if you try processing your file after giving it a .lytex extension instead? C:\test>lilypond-book --pdf test.lytex ?? -Patrick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: cross-staff voice indication
2009/3/19 Florian Hollerweger : > I would like to indicate the latter change with a line as well, but that > change does not cause a switch of that voice between _staves_ (only its > "position" within the right-hand-staff). The voice-following lines are really not meant to go *inside* the staff. The only way I can think of would be to draw a glissando (and possibly use \stemDown and \stemUp to give the illusion that the voices are different). \relative c' { << { \stemDown c2 \glissando \stemUp c' } \\ {\stemUp a \stemDown d,} >> } > The "followVoice" thing sounds already promising, but I can't get find > anything useful in the documentation. If this can still be done without a > dirty hack, then I'll have to open a bottle of champagne! Actually, showStaffSwitch is a shorthand for setting the followVoice property (so there is no difference). Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can't have Lilypond-book work in Windows XP
SORRY file was encoded in utf-8 so it couldn't work. Now everything is "perfect" thanks - Piero Faustini, PhD student Dipartimento di Scienze Storiche Sezione musicologia Università di Ferrara Software used: - LyX 1.6.1 on WinXP; EndNote & JabRef - MikTex - LaTeX class: Koma book - Lilypond and MusixTeX for example excerpts - BibLaTeX for bibliographies -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Can%27t-have-Lilypond-book-work-in-Windows-XP-tp22590465p22591895.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: default margins
2009/3/18 Pekka Siponen : > The default margins for a4 seem a little too narrow. The normal I see in > scores > is about 2 cm wide. If the margins are only 1 cm thick, the page seems too > crowded. Also it is a legibility issue: usually for text, the lenght of a line > should not exceed 50–70 characters, otherwise the eye has trouble finding the > next line. Greetings, which kind of printed text are you referring to? As for the score margins, we'd need several scanned examples from various sources, and precise measures before considering modifying LilyPond's default settings. Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: default margins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mittwoch, 18. März 2009 12:29:42 Pekka Siponen wrote: > The default margins for a4 seem a little too narrow. The normal I see in > scores is about 2 cm wide. I concur. On most scores I have seen, the margins are larger than LilyPond's (although I have not explicitly measured them). Cheers, Reinhold - -- - -- Reinhold Kainhofer, reinh...@kainhofer.com, http://reinhold.kainhofer.com/ * Financial & Actuarial Math., Vienna Univ. of Technology, Austria * http://www.fam.tuwien.ac.at/, DVR: 0005886 * LilyPond, Music typesetting, http://www.lilypond.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJwaJETqjEwhXvPN0RAr3+AJ4xNZSEpSnyeLxOIZUqgypHkkcegQCeLrjQ IleK1ljjH6E201TufQVOGzc= =k3eo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Need the MusicXML test cases (link broken)
Hello, I have some spare time and would like to do some work in testing the MusicXML converter. I tried to download the test cases zip file at the link below (as found on this site) but the link is broken: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/regression/musicxml/MusicXML-TestSuite-0.1.zip Can anyone please give me a good link to download the MusicXML test cases as a compressed archive? BTW the above broken link is on this page, if the webmaster wants to fix it: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/input/regression/musicxml/collated-files Thanks Rick -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Need-the-MusicXML-test-cases-%28link-broken%29-tp22592619p22592619.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: default margins
> From: Reinhold Kainhofer: > > On Mittwoch, 18. März 2009 12:29:42 Pekka Siponen wrote: > > The default margins for a4 seem a little too narrow. The normal I see in > > scores is about 2 cm wide. > > I concur. On most scores I have seen, the margins are larger than LilyPond's > (although I have not explicitly measured them). I have! At one point I was frustrated by this very issue and went through my score library with a ruler. Valentin mentioned "precise" measurements, but to my surprise, measured values from any one publisher deviated quite a lot from score to score, sometimes from page to page. I even recall a couple of instances where the line-width at the top of a page was several mm shorter from the line-width at the bottom of the page. Also, the printed matter was not always consistently centered on the page. Thus in most cases, my reported values for top- and bottom-margin are the same (per publisher), representing a vertically centered page. So, perhaps there can be no "precise" measurements; though I tried to capture the average measurements as best as I could. By the way, I can easily confirm the wide margins: Peters= 17.75 mm Wiener UE = 20.75 mm Henle = 21.25 mm Schirmer = 21.25 mm One interesting thing to note -- I compared the ratio of paper-width to paper-height for each publisher, and found that all had proportions much closer to the (short and fat) "letter" ratio than to the (tall and skinny) "a4" ratio. w/h ratio: ...tall and skinny... a4= 0.70707 mm 8.5x12= 0.70833 mm 9x12 = 0.75 mm Peters= 0.75mm Henle = 0.75806 mm Wiener UE = 0.76 mm Schirmer = 0.764mm letter= 0.77273 mm ...short and fat... ___ Anyway, here are my results: Peters: paper-width = 222mm paper-height = 297mm staff-height = 7mm line-width= 186.5 mm top-margin= 10mm bottom-margin = 10mm Henle: paper-width = 235mm paper-height = 310mm staff-height = 7mm line-width= 192.5 mm top-margin= 15mm bottom-margin = 15mm Wiener Urtext Edition: paper-width = 230mm (232 including binding) paper-height = 304mm staff-height = 6.25 mm line-width= 188.5 mm top-margin= 11mm bottom-margin = 19mm Schirmer: paper-width = 230mm paper-height = 301mm staff-height = 7mm line-width= 187.5 mm top-margin= 13mm bottom-margin = 13mm Hope this helps! - Mark p.s. should we migrate this to bug- or -devel? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: a:4 chord
On 15.03.2009 2:04, M Watts wrote: > Miklos Vajna wrote: >> Now I want the same with A^4, so I type: >> >> \chords { >> a:4 >> } >> >> and I get: A^4/sus4/add3. >> >> Question: How do I get just an "A^4"? :) > > Just use a chord name exception -- it looks like a lot of setting up, > but it's well worth it, and only needs to be done once. You can also > put this kind of thing in a separate file and \include it. Can somebody explain what's the difference between printing "A^sus4" and "A^4"? I had only basic music education but am helping with publishing a songbook using Lilypond, and I thought that the difference is not important. But now I'm afraid I'm wrong and that I'll have to check some songs again. Is that right? Luc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user