Re: Fermata on bar line

2009-01-30 Thread Tim Yang
>> -Original Message-
>> From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org
>> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tim Yang
>> Sent: Friday, 30 January 2009 6:07 PM
>> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
>> Subject: Fermata on bar line
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> How do I put a fermata  on the bar line instead on top of a note?
>

2009/1/30 Nick Payne :
> \bar "||" \mark\markup{\musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"}
>
> Change the bar type to the one you need.
>
> Nick
>

Thanks.  It works.

Tim


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Re: Bass Clef Lyrics Above Staff

2009-01-30 Thread James E. Bailey

easiest way that I know of is:

\version "2.12.2"

music = \relative { \clef bass c1 }
lyric = \lyricmode { text }
\score {
   <<
  \new Staff = "bass" \new Voice = "bass" \music
  \new Lyrics \with {alignAboveContext=bass} \lyricsto bass \lyric
   >>
}


Am 30.01.2009 um 06:29 schrieb Ezequiel Sierra:

How can i place the lyrics in the top the bass clef up instead of  
the bottom because i have a choir staff


ZeeK
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Re: postscript parentheses

2009-01-30 Thread Trevor Daniels


Carl Sorensen wrote Friday, January 30, 2009 4:35 AM

Kieren MacMillan  sympatico.ca> writes:


Is anyone PS-savvy enough to tell me how to draw scalable
(independently in X and Y) parentheses using \postscript?


There is a bezier-sandwich stencil that is used for slurs and for barre
indicators in fret diagrams.

The documentation on it is not particularly good, but there's a 
half-decent

explanation of the order of the control points needed for the
bezier-sandwich in scm/fret-diagrams.scm.


There's also a little about the control points of
single Bézier curves in the Notation Reference -
section 5.5.4 Modifying shapes.  Might help if you've
not looked at Bézier curves before.

Trevor



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Anchoring markups

2009-01-30 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I think there is a general problem in LilyPond with the positioning of 
things.
You can easily attach a markup (that now actually can contain anything) 
to a note. But can't attach it to a clef, a stem, a bar line etc.

It would be very good, if you could attach a markup to any grob.
I suppose it wouldn't be very hard, but I wonder if more experienced 
users could tell me what to do.

I'm thinking about something like this:

\clef c ^\markup { }

Syntax-wise it may be difficult. But wouldn't it be possible to create 
music function that takes a grob name, and changes the drawing function 
in a way that you can put a markup above, below, left or right to it?


Bert



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Re: Anchoring markups

2009-01-30 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 30.01.2009 um 10:29 schrieb Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool):

I think there is a general problem in LilyPond with the positioning  
of things.
You can easily attach a markup (that now actually can contain  
anything) to a note. But can't attach it to a clef, a stem, a bar  
line etc.

It would be very good, if you could attach a markup to any grob.
I suppose it wouldn't be very hard, but I wonder if more  
experienced users could tell me what to do.

I'm thinking about something like this:

\clef c ^\markup { }

Syntax-wise it may be difficult. But wouldn't it be possible to  
create music function that takes a grob name, and changes the  
drawing function in a way that you can put a markup above, below,  
left or right to it?


Bert


The selected snippets section of 1.8.1 Writing text - Text Marks has  
exactly how to align a \mark (which can contain a \markup) to various  
other notation elements, clef is the first one.



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Re: Anchoring markups

2009-01-30 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
It still seems not ideally flexible, because for example, you want to 
put a markup above the \bar ":|" (like "repeat 3x")

Then you must:
- change the formatting of the RehearsalMark object (because it is 
typeset in a larger font than a markup)
- remove the Staff_collecting_engraver from the Score (this should not 
be mandatory, as I just want to align a text markup to a grob).


Also, to align the markup to the left of the key signature, you must 
override a property of Score.KeySignature, so that's again not flexible.


Bert

James E. Bailey wrote:


Am 30.01.2009 um 10:29 schrieb Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool):

I think there is a general problem in LilyPond with the positioning 
of things.
You can easily attach a markup (that now actually can contain 
anything) to a note. But can't attach it to a clef, a stem, a bar 
line etc.

It would be very good, if you could attach a markup to any grob.
I suppose it wouldn't be very hard, but I wonder if more experienced 
users could tell me what to do.

I'm thinking about something like this:

\clef c ^\markup { }

Syntax-wise it may be difficult. But wouldn't it be possible to 
create music function that takes a grob name, and changes the drawing 
function in a way that you can put a markup above, below, left or 
right to it?


Bert


The selected snippets section of 1.8.1 Writing text - Text Marks has 
exactly how to align a \mark (which can contain a \markup) to various 
other notation elements, clef is the first one.







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svg, inkscape, fonts

2009-01-30 Thread t.scharkow...@t-online.de
I have copied the otf-fonts to my .fonts directory and Inkscape 0.45*
does display noteheads, clef etc..
BUT: lilypond default fonts for text is replaced by a sans serif font,
this is also true for the time signature.
Apparently Inkscape still does not find all necessary fonts.
What else can I do?

Thomas

LilyPond 2.12.2 on Kubuntu 8.04
*Inkscape 0.46 does not show the stafflines as already has been
reported.




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Re: svg, inkscape, fonts

2009-01-30 Thread Matthieu Jacquot

Hello,
I use the pdf2svg script and then load svg files in Inkscape, it works
pretty well...
Regards,
Matthieu


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\once and shortcuts

2009-01-30 Thread Nick Payne
Why is it that I can use, for example:

\once \override Slur #'direction = #DOWN

or

\once \override Slur #'direction = #UP

but

\once \slurDown or \once \slurUp

Generates a syntax error. The same happens with stemUp and stemDown, tieUp
and tieDown, etc.

I'm using 2.12.2.

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Re: Fermata on bar line

2009-01-30 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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On Freitag, 30. Januar 2009 08:07:14 Tim Yang wrote:
> Hi:
>
> How do I put a fermata  on the bar line instead on top of a note?

The LSR provides answers to lots of such questions:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1

Cheers,
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Re: Anchoring markups

2009-01-30 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi all,


It still seems not ideally flexible


Agreed — another common example is attaching a date (e.g., "30 Jan  
2009, Paris.") to the final barline.
The ability to attach markup to arbitrary grobs would be quite useful/ 
powerful.


Best,
Kieren.

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Re: Ly to SVG

2009-01-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op donderdag 29-01-2009 om 07:03 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef David
Stocker:
> Coincidentally, I fooled around with this for the first time last night. 
> The problems I encountered specifically:
> 
>1. lilypond -dbackend=svg results in an incomplete svg rendering.
>   When I open the file in Inkscape, everything is there except the
>   staff lines (from a minimal trial with only a single staff and
>   some notes--no editorial marks or text were attempted)

For now try

   sed -ie s...@currentcolor@bl...@g ~/example-1.svg

Not sure if it's a bug or a feature (therefore, no fix yet), 
Firefox does show the lines.

Jan.

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Conditional input

2009-01-30 Thread northofscotland

I would like to able to include some simple statements of the kind "if ...
then ... else" in the note entry.  What I would like to achieve is to have
two options for a note so that if I wanted to change the instrument where
the register doesn't match - violin to recorder for instance, I could just
change a flag or something similar at the start of the file and the
alternative notes would be substituted.  I guess that it would be possible
with scheme, but I'm still trying to get my head round that!

Any ideas gratefully received, Thanks
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Re: Conditional input

2009-01-30 Thread Simon Bailey

hi,

On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:27 PM, northofscotland wrote:
I would like to able to include some simple statements of the kind  
"if ...
then ... else" in the note entry.  What I would like to achieve is  
to have
two options for a note so that if I wanted to change the instrument  
where
the register doesn't match - violin to recorder for instance, I  
could just

change a flag or something similar at the start of the file and the
alternative notes would be substituted.  I guess that it would be  
possible

with scheme, but I'm still trying to get my head round that!

Any ideas gratefully received, Thanks


have a look at \tag and \keepWithTag or \removeWithTag:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Different-editions-from-one-source
(the section "Using Tags").

hth, regards,
sb

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Re: svg, inkscape, fonts

2009-01-30 Thread M Watts

Matthieu Jacquot wrote:

Hello,
I use the pdf2svg script and then load svg files in Inkscape, it works
pretty well...
  


Works well indeed -- all notes, lines, fonts etc. just as they were in 
the pdf, in my quick test anyway (Inkscape 0.46 on Fedora 10).


Trying to load Lilypond pdfs into 0.46 produces the helpful message: 
Inkscape has encountered an internal error and will now close.


There's an active thread on svg output direct from 2.12, so keep an eye 
on that.


Meantime, if you desperately need drop shadows under chord symbols, or a 
star-spangled banner issuing from a half-note, pdf2svg will do the job fine.

http://www.cityinthesky.co.uk/pdf2svg.html



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Re: Fermata on bar line

2009-01-30 Thread Gilles THIBAULT





\bar "||" \mark\markup{\musicglyph #"scripts.ufermata"}


Note also that version "2.12 " has a new command : \fermataMarkup,  which 
does the same thing.


{ R1 \bar "||" \mark \fermataMarkup R1 }

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Fitting as many lines as possible on a page

2009-01-30 Thread Tim Yang
I have a single staff music that spans two or three pages using font
size 15. If I use between-system-padding=#4 and
between-system-spacing=#4, it will use 3 pages with 12 lines for first
2 pages and a single line on 3rd page. if the numbers are both #3,
then it uses 2 pages.   But I notice there is a large space below each
page.  When I set annotate-spacing = ##t I can see "47.46 space left"
which is a large space.

Why does Lilypond left so large space unused and draws only 12 lines
while insisting on printing on 3rd page?  How can I stuff as many
lines as possible on each page, which seems more reasonable?


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Re: Fitting as many lines as possible on a page

2009-01-30 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Tim Yang wrote:

I have a single staff music that spans two or three pages using font
size 15. If I use between-system-padding=#4 and
between-system-spacing=#4, it will use 3 pages with 12 lines for first
2 pages and a single line on 3rd page. if the numbers are both #3,
then it uses 2 pages.   But I notice there is a large space below each
page.  When I set annotate-spacing = ##t I can see "47.46 space left"
which is a large space.

Why does Lilypond left so large space unused and draws only 12 lines
while insisting on printing on 3rd page?  How can I stuff as many
lines as possible on each page, which seems more reasonable?



You can set the page count explicitly in your \paper block like this:

\paper {
  page-count = 3
}

You can also set page breaks manually following directions here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Page-breaking#Page-breaking

HTH,

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Re: Ly to SVG

2009-01-30 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op vrijdag 30-01-2009 om 12:28 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jan
Nieuwenhuizen: 
> Op donderdag 29-01-2009 om 07:03 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef David
> Stocker:
> > Coincidentally, I fooled around with this for the first time last night. 
> > The problems I encountered specifically:
> > 
> >1. lilypond -dbackend=svg results in an incomplete svg rendering.
> >   When I open the file in Inkscape, everything is there except the
> >   staff lines (from a minimal trial with only a single staff and
> >   some notes--no editorial marks or text were attempted)
> 
> For now try
> 
>sed -ie s...@currentcolor@bl...@g ~/example-1.svg
> 
> Not sure if it's a bug

It's an inkscape bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/174720

it works fine with inkscape HEAD.

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Re: svg, inkscape, fonts

2009-01-30 Thread Francisco Vila
Great :-(
As pdf2svg uses poppler to convert pdf to svg, it suffers of the same
problem with Thick barlines as evince does, see attached png which is
a screenshot of inkscape editing a simple { c'1 c' \bar "|." }

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\bar "||" kills start-repeat

2009-01-30 Thread Simon Bailey

hi,

the following snippet kills the start-repeat barline in bar 6.  
removing the \bar "||" shows the start-repeat. is there any way to get  
the \bar "||" and the "|:" to show at the end of the line and at the  
beginning of the new line resp.?


this is with 2.11.65, i haven't upgraded my laptop to 2.12.2 yet...

\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 {
c1 c1 c1
} \alternative { { c1 } { d1} }
\break \bar "||"
\repeat volta 2 {
c1 c1 c1
} \alternative { { c1 } { d1} }
}

thanks for any pointers, regards,
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Re: bar "||" kills start-repeat

2009-01-30 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Please read 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Bars#Bar-lines


  /Mats

Quoting Simon Bailey :


hi,

the following snippet kills the start-repeat barline in bar 6.  
removing the \bar "||" shows the start-repeat. is there any way to 
get  the \bar "||" and the "|:" to show at the end of the line and at 
the  beginning of the new line resp.?


this is with 2.11.65, i haven't upgraded my laptop to 2.12.2 yet...

\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 {
c1 c1 c1
} \alternative { { c1 } { d1} }
\break \bar "||"
\repeat volta 2 {
c1 c1 c1
} \alternative { { c1 } { d1} }
}

thanks for any pointers, regards,
sb


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Re: \bar "||" kills start-repeat

2009-01-30 Thread James E. Bailey

I haven't really taken a close look, but do you want the "||:" barline
Am 30.01.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Simon Bailey:


hi,

the following snippet kills the start-repeat barline in bar 6.  
removing the \bar "||" shows the start-repeat. is there any way to  
get the \bar "||" and the "|:" to show at the end of the line and  
at the beginning of the new line resp.?


this is with 2.11.65, i haven't upgraded my laptop to 2.12.2 yet...

\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 {
c1 c1 c1
} \alternative { { c1 } { d1} }
\break \bar "||"
\repeat volta 2 {
c1 c1 c1
} \alternative { { c1 } { d1} }
}

thanks for any pointers, regards,
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Re: bar "||" kills start-repeat

2009-01-30 Thread Simon Bailey

mats, james,

On 30 Jan 2009, at 22:41, Mats Bengtsson wrote:

Please read 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Bars#Bar-lines


thanks for the pointer to the \bar "||:". i'm slightly confused  
however, as the paragraph before the introduction of this symbol states:


"Although the bar line types signifying repeats may be inserted  
manually they do not in themselves cause LilyPond to recognize a  
repeated section. Such repeated sections are better entered using the  
various repeat commands (see Repeats), which automatically print the  
appropriate bar lines."


so basically that paragraph is telling me to NOT use the manual repeat  
barlines and use \repeat volta instead. but the next paragraph  
mentions the special barline "||:" which i shouldn't be using as the  
volta syntax should be used instead. is this only confusing to me?


maybe the section on repeats should mention this special case (which  
is where i was originally looking for information on why my start- 
repeat mark was being killed).


regards,
sb


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Staves closer to one another

2009-01-30 Thread Fibonacci Prower
Hello, me again.

Is there a way to get the staves in lilypond to appear closer
together? The default separation seems excessive to me.
Also, since some of the staves I'm working with have lyrics (two
stanzas, one on top of the other), I would like to know if it's
possible to get the first stanza closer to the staff, and the second
closer to the first.

Thanks.

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$P='F'x18)."8186078739E1F0F0E19FCF19CCE6667383CF0733099E67E7F39"
."FCF218067E7F39FCF319E739F860787399E70F0E1$P"#Perl rulz


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Re: Fitting as many lines as possible on a page

2009-01-30 Thread Tim Yang
2009/1/30 Jonathan Kulp :
> Tim Yang wrote:
>>
>> I have a single staff music that spans two or three pages using font
>> size 15. If I use between-system-padding=#4 and
>> between-system-spacing=#4, it will use 3 pages with 12 lines for first
>> 2 pages and a single line on 3rd page. if the numbers are both #3,
>> then it uses 2 pages.   But I notice there is a large space below each
>> page.  When I set annotate-spacing = ##t I can see "47.46 space left"
>> which is a large space.
>>
>> Why does Lilypond left so large space unused and draws only 12 lines
>> while insisting on printing on 3rd page?  How can I stuff as many
>> lines as possible on each page, which seems more reasonable?
>>
>
> You can set the page count explicitly in your \paper block like this:
>
> \paper {
>  page-count = 3
> }
>
> You can also set page breaks manually following directions here:
>
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Page-breaking#Page-breaking
>
> HTH,
>
> Jon
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>

It doesn't work. I set the page-count as 2 and Lilypond still uses 3
pages. I think it is because somehow Lilypond thinks these lines don't
fit in 2 pages but in fact there is a lot of space left.

Tim Yang


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Re: Fitting as many lines as possible on a page

2009-01-30 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Tim Yang wrote:

2009/1/30 Jonathan Kulp :

Tim Yang wrote:



You can set the page count explicitly in your \paper block like this:

\paper {
 page-count = 3
}

You can also set page breaks manually following directions here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Page-breaking#Page-breaking

HTH,

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It doesn't work. I set the page-count as 2 and Lilypond still uses 3
pages. I think it is because somehow Lilypond thinks these lines don't
fit in 2 pages but in fact there is a lot of space left.

Tim Yang



Would you mind sending me your file so I can fiddle with it?  The 
page-count thing has always worked for me.


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Re: Fitting as many lines as possible on a page

2009-01-30 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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On Freitag, 30. Januar 2009 23:37:28 Tim Yang wrote:
> It doesn't work. I set the page-count as 2 and Lilypond still uses 3
> pages. I think it is because somehow Lilypond thinks these lines don't
> fit in 2 pages but in fact there is a lot of space left.

Yes, currently the vertical page layouting algorithm of lilypond is sub-
optimal. Lilypond reserves 10% of the total space to make sure it does not 
overprint staves. This means that 10% of the page will always be wasted...
Unfortunately, there is no easy way around this for now, until someone starts 
working on the vertical staff layouting seriously...

Cheers,
Reinhold
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Re: Fitting as many lines as possible on a page

2009-01-30 Thread Joe Neeman
On Sat, 2009-01-31 at 00:53 +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
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> On Freitag, 30. Januar 2009 23:37:28 Tim Yang wrote:
> > It doesn't work. I set the page-count as 2 and Lilypond still uses 3
> > pages. I think it is because somehow Lilypond thinks these lines don't
> > fit in 2 pages but in fact there is a lot of space left.
> 
> Yes, currently the vertical page layouting algorithm of lilypond is sub-
> optimal. Lilypond reserves 10% of the total space to make sure it does not 
> overprint staves. This means that 10% of the page will always be wasted...
> Unfortunately, there is no easy way around this for now, until someone starts 
> working on the vertical staff layouting seriously...

This is only the case for the stretching of systems, AFAICR. It
shouldn't affect single-staff music.

Joe



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Re: Staves closer to one another

2009-01-30 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op vrijdag 30 januari 2009, schreef Fibonacci Prower:
> Is there a way to get the staves in lilypond to appear closer
> together?

See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Vertical-spacing

best regards,
Wilbert Berendsen

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Re: \once and shortcuts

2009-01-30 Thread M Watts

Nick Payne wrote:

Why is it that I can use, for example:

\once \override Slur #'direction = #DOWN

or

\once \override Slur #'direction = #UP

but

\once \slurDown or \once \slurUp

Generates a syntax error. The same happens with stemUp and stemDown, tieUp
and tieDown, etc.

I'm using 2.12.2.

Nick


I've only seen \once used with \override or \set -- some digging in the 
scm folder would probably reveal why.



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Re: scheme - notes as variables

2009-01-30 Thread M Watts

Rob Canning wrote:
perl looks neat though "the swiss army chainsaw of languages" i heard 
it refered to as :)-
In this case, a Practically Elegant Realistic Language was better than a 
Scarcely Comprehensible Highly Eclectic Markup Enigma.



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Re: svg, inkscape, fonts

2009-01-30 Thread M Watts

Francisco Vila wrote:

Great :-(
As pdf2svg uses poppler to convert pdf to svg, it suffers of the same
problem with Thick barlines as evince does, see attached png which is
a screenshot of inkscape editing a simple { c'1 c' \bar "|." }


As reported on another thread, Inkscape has a bug that won't display the 
barlines of svgs made via lilypond -dbackend=svg -- it's just one of 
those days!



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Re: svg, inkscape, fonts

2009-01-30 Thread M Watts

Francisco Vila wrote:

Great :-(
As pdf2svg uses poppler to convert pdf to svg, it suffers of the same
problem with Thick barlines as evince does, see attached png which is
a screenshot of inkscape editing a simple { c'1 c' \bar "|." }


As reported on another thread, Inkscape has a bug that won't display the
staff lines of svgs made via lilypond -dbackend=svg -- it's just one of
those days!



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