Drum parts and horizontal beams

2008-10-21 Thread canduc

Hi everybody.
I'm trying to write a drum part, but I'm not able to obtain perfectly
orizontal beams.

For example when I write two eight notes, one of snare drum (corresponding
to a c') and the other of bass drum (e), their connection beam is oblique. I
would like to obtain the snare drum stem longer, in a way to connect it with
the bass drum note with an horizontal beam.

I have read this option at page 201 of the lilypond manual: \override Stem
#length = #12, but it doesen't work, I don't know why.

Here you are my code:
#(set-global-staff-size 20)
#(set-default-paper-size "a4")

% - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - My Set
#(define canetadrums '(
  (bassdrum   default   #f   -4)
  (snare  default   #f1)
  (hihat  cross #f5)
  (openhihat  cross #f5)
  (halfopenhihat  xcircle   #f5)
  (closedhihatcross #f5)
  (crashcymbalcross #f7)
  (pedalhihat cross #f   -6)
  (lowtom default   #f   -1)))
% - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - End of My Set

\new DrumStaff {
  \set DrumStaff.drumStyleTable = #(alist->hash-table canetadrums)
  \tempo 4. = 57
  \time 12/8
  \drummode {

r1 r8 \acciaccatura sn8 sn16 [ \acciaccatura sn8 sn16 r8
\set stemLeftBeamCount = #1 
\acciaccatura sn8 sn16 \acciaccatura sn8 sn16 ] 
<< 
   \new DrumVoice {
 \stemUp cymc8 \repeat unfold 10 hhho cymc
   }
   \new DrumVoice {
 \stemDown bd8. bd8 bd16 sn8 [r bd] bd [bd16 bd r bd] sn8 bd sn
   }
>>
  }
}

Can anyone help me?

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installation mac os 10.5

2008-10-21 Thread Cristian

Hi

I tried but I can't install Lilypond in my mac.

I can not find in the menu:  Compile > Typeset file
(I have a french computer)

Can you help me?

thanks

Cristian




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Re: installation mac os 10.5

2008-10-21 Thread Ole Schmidt

you have to install a ppc version, see:

http://ivo.bouwmans.name/lilypondleopard/



hth  ole




Am 21.10.2008 um 15:25 schrieb Cristian:



Hi

I tried but I can't install Lilypond in my mac.

I can not find in the menu:  Compile > Typeset file
(I have a french computer)

Can you help me?

thanks

Cristian




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Re: Drum parts and horizontal beams

2008-10-21 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 10/20/08 11:26 AM, "canduc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
> Hi everybody.
> I'm trying to write a drum part, but I'm not able to obtain perfectly
> orizontal beams.
>
> For example when I write two eight notes, one of snare drum (corresponding
> to a c') and the other of bass drum (e), their connection beam is oblique. I
> would like to obtain the snare drum stem longer, in a way to connect it with
> the bass drum note with an horizontal beam.

You must set the beam-damping to +inf.0

 \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0

I found this by doing the following:

1.  I went to the notation reference.
2.  I went to the LilyPond index.
3.  I looked up beam (which sent me to Automaic Beams).
4.  At this point, there was no snippet which showed how to make a beam
perfectly horizontal (I remembered seeing something about it in reading the
docs earlier), so I went to the link to the Internals Reference for Beam.
5.  I read through the doc-strings.  concaveness refers to "damping the
slope of the beam", and there is a parameter called "damping" that adjustst
the "Amount of beam slope damping", but neither of these meant anything to
me at that time.
5.  I looked at the beam-interface link at the bottom of the Beam page.
This gave me a list of all user-settable beam properties.  This time I
noticed damping, and decided that that might be the property I needed.
6.  I downloaded the Notation Reference as one big page, and searched for
damping.  The very first hit was a snippet for horizontal beams (in the
section on Tablature, which was why I remembered it, because I do more
guitar than drum music).

You could also go to the LilyPond Snippet Repository and search for beam:

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=beam&s=0&m=10

You would then find the tablature snippet that showed how to make beams
perfectly horizontal.

I'm not mentioning all this because I think you didn't spend enough time
trying to find it; I'm mentioning this to help you know how I find
information so you don't have to wait on the list.

HTH,

Carl Sorensen



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Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-21 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 10/20/08 4:33 PM, "Joseph Wakeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No nastiness felt from this end, your response was not entirely
> unexpected -- after all, as you say, you've put in a lot of effort to
> generate this tool as it is.  I'm very grateful for that, and a friendly
> prod to put my ideas into practice myself is, as you say, good for me.
>
> I do like to run my ideas past the list (I'm a novice member of the
> LilyPond community, after all, and it's good to have comments), but if
> the response is, 'Good idea, why don't you do it?' then that's a
> pleasure, not a problem.

One of the great things about participating in LilyPond is the genuine
interest in having lots of contributors.  Anybody can propose contributions,
and they'll likely get implemented in some form.  Particularly in the
documentation, if you find something that needs improving, run it by the
list (you may want to run it by lilypond-devel), and you'll likely get the
response of "Go ahead -- we'd love to have it".

Carl



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Re: overhead projection of lilypond scores

2008-10-21 Thread Stephen Corey
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:01:34 +0100, Gerry Prosser wrote:

> when teaching a congregation a new worship song, it would be rather nice
> to project the melody line onto the screen as well as the words. But
> black-on-white is a projection disaster. It really needs to be yellow
> staff/text on a blue background. And probably a thicker text font than
> times new roman.  Is this achievable, please ?

You may wish to refer to my question and the responses regarding 
transparent backgrounds several weeks ago.  I also use Lilypond for 
overhead projectors and typically display black type over a textured 
background in Powerpoint with good results.



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should \voiceOneStyle override all possible attributes of a note or voice?

2008-10-21 Thread Eluze

i just saw that voiceXXXStyle only defines colors of NoteHead/Beam/Stem -
deliberatly?

these styles can be a great help when you are splitting notes into voices or
if you add dynamics and other articulations to the score - and you don't
remember to which voice you had added it...

IMO dots, accidentals, dynamics and maybe even markups should be colored,
too!

-Eluze


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Re: should \voiceOneStyle override all possible attributes of a note or voice?

2008-10-21 Thread David Stocker
I've found that when using evince to view pdf output, moving the cursor 
over score elements displays the line in the .ly file that the elements 
spring from. This is a convenient way to find the code that corresponds 
to the output (using Ubuntu 8.04 (hardy)).


David

Eluze wrote:

i just saw that voiceXXXStyle only defines colors of NoteHead/Beam/Stem -
deliberatly?

these styles can be a great help when you are splitting notes into voices or
if you add dynamics and other articulations to the score - and you don't
remember to which voice you had added it...

IMO dots, accidentals, dynamics and maybe even markups should be colored,
too!

-Eluze


  



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Re: should voiceOneStyle override all possible attributes of a note or voice?

2008-10-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Eluze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



i just saw that voiceXXXStyle only defines colors of NoteHead/Beam/Stem -
deliberatly?


Please note that these styles primarily have been defined in order to 
make some examples in the documentation more pedagogical. However, if 
you find them useful for other purposes that's fine. You can easily
define your own version of these macros, by copying the predefined ones 
from the file property-init.ly in the installation, see

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Other-sources-of-information


these styles can be a great help when you are splitting notes into voices or
if you add dynamics and other articulations to the score - and you don't
remember to which voice you had added it...


Read about point-and-click in the manual for another solution to the same
problem.

  /Mats




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Re: should \voiceOneStyle override all possible attributes of a note or voice?

2008-10-21 Thread Eluze


notesetter wrote:
> 
> I've found that when using evince to view pdf output, moving the cursor 
> over score elements displays the line in the .ly file that the elements 
> spring from. This is a convenient way to find the code that corresponds 
> to the output (using Ubuntu 8.04 (hardy)).
> 
yeah - you can do this with nearly any pdf viewer just set #(ly:set-option
'point-and-click #t (I used this with acrobat reader or hai-hai-soft pdf
viewer under windows xp home edition)

but coloring every voice is even more convenient, at a glance you see
details without loosing the overview, and if needed you draw the mouse over
whatever you think should be investigated and click on it!
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Braces for notes

2008-10-21 Thread Stefan Waler

Hi,

is it possible easily to print a note inside two braces like this: ( . )

This is sometimes used for an "alternative" note, if the main voice 
cannot be played or sung by the performed.


Thanks,

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Re: Braces for notes

2008-10-21 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Dienstag, 21. Oktober 2008 schrieb Stefan Waler:
> Hi,
>
> is it possible easily to print a note inside two braces like this: ( . )

Yes, see \parenthesize in the documentation:
http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Inside-the-staff.html#Parentheses

Cheers,
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RE: Drum parts and horizontal beams

2008-10-21 Thread Nick Payne
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Carl D. Sorensen
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 01:58
> To: canduc; lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Drum parts and horizontal beams
> 
> On 10/20/08 11:26 AM, "canduc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hi everybody.
> > I'm trying to write a drum part, but I'm not able to obtain perfectly
> > orizontal beams.
> >
> 
> You must set the beam-damping to +inf.0
> 
>  \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0
> 
Is it possible to do the reverse - give every beam a slight slope without
explicitly setting the start and end position of every beam? I have a piece
I'm engraving where because of the shape of the arpeggios (the whole piece
is arpeggios), Lilypond engraves every beam as horizontal, but I actually
think it would look better if every beam was slightly sloped. See the
attached PNG, where I changed the slope of the first beam using \once
\override Beam #'positions = #'(3 . 4), and the second beam uses the
automatic placing. I'd like every beam to have the same slope as the 1st
without having to add a beam position override for every bar. I played
around with overriding the concaveness and damping beam properties without
getting anything but horizontal beams.

Nick
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Re: Braces for notes

2008-10-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
In the on-line manual for version 2.11, look in the "LilyPond index" of 
the Notation Reference and search

for "Parenthesis".

  /Mats

Quoting Stefan Waler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi,

is it possible easily to print a note inside two braces like this: ( . )

This is sometimes used for an "alternative" note, if the main voice 
cannot be played or sung by the performed.


Thanks,

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Re: should voiceOneStyle override all possible attributes of a note or voice?

2008-10-21 Thread Eluze


Mats Bengtsson-4 wrote:
> 
> 
> Please note that these styles primarily have been defined in order to 
> make some examples in the documentation more pedagogical. However, if 
> you find them useful for other purposes that's fine.
> 

I understand the pedagogical ambitions, but OTOH if commands are defined IMO
they should cover as much as possible!

there is also the snippet  http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=443
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=443  which enables automagical
coloring of all elements pertaining to a context (voice).

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Re: Drum parts and horizontal beams

2008-10-21 Thread Jonathan Kulp



Nick Payne wrote:

-Original Message-





You must set the beam-damping to +inf.0

 \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0


Is it possible to do the reverse - give every beam a slight slope without
explicitly setting the start and end position of every beam? I have a piece
I'm engraving where because of the shape of the arpeggios (the whole piece
is arpeggios), Lilypond engraves every beam as horizontal, but I actually
think it would look better if every beam was slightly sloped. See the
attached PNG, where I changed the slope of the first beam using \once
\override Beam #'positions = #'(3 . 4), and the second beam uses the
automatic placing. I'd like every beam to have the same slope as the 1st
without having to add a beam position override for every bar. I played
around with overriding the concaveness and damping beam properties without
getting anything but horizontal beams.

Nick






The Beam damping property is still probably what you want to adjust.  If 
you give it a value like 10 you should get a slight tilt to the beam:


 \override Beam #'damping = #10

If you make that -10 it will make it tilt a bit the other way.

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Re: Drum parts and horizontal beams

2008-10-21 Thread Jonathan Kulp

Jonathan Kulp wrote:



Nick Payne wrote:

-Original Message-





You must set the beam-damping to +inf.0

 \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0


Is it possible to do the reverse - give every beam a slight slope without
explicitly setting the start and end position of every beam? I have a 
piece
I'm engraving where because of the shape of the arpeggios (the whole 
piece

is arpeggios), Lilypond engraves every beam as horizontal, but I actually
think it would look better if every beam was slightly sloped. See the
attached PNG, where I changed the slope of the first beam using \once
\override Beam #'positions = #'(3 . 4), and the second beam uses the
automatic placing. I'd like every beam to have the same slope as the 1st
without having to add a beam position override for every bar. I played
around with overriding the concaveness and damping beam properties 
without

getting anything but horizontal beams.

Nick






The Beam damping property is still probably what you want to adjust.  If 
you give it a value like 10 you should get a slight tilt to the beam:


 \override Beam #'damping = #10

If you make that -10 it will make it tilt a bit the other way.

Jon


Just experimenting a bit more with this, I discover that you get more 
noticeable results if you use much smaller numbers, like #1.5 or #3 or 
#-2.  I went with the 10 number before b/c that used to be in a 
snippet in the fretted strings docs and that was the only example I had. :)


Jon


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Re: Drum parts and horizontal beams

2008-10-21 Thread Robin Bannister

Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
You could also go to the LilyPond Snippet Repository and search for beam: 


If you are feeling lucky you could also google for 
 beam horizontal inurl:v2-11 site:lilypond.org/doc/


Cheers,
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