Re: Miscellaneous part questions: Margins and ostinati

2008-07-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:36:50 +0200
"Valentin Villenave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2008/7/3 Nick Baskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Where does the "\override Score.PaperColumn #'keep-inside-line =
> > ##t" line go?
> 
> Either:

The correct answer is "Please read LM 3+4 in the 2.11 docs".

Cheers,
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Re: Error message using 2.11.50-1

2008-07-03 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 03.07.2008 um 04:17 schrieb Jonathan Kulp:


Hi everyone,

I just installed the latest build and when I ran the file I'm  
working on, it came back with this error, which I think has to do  
with a macro included near the top of the document.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Desktop$ tarantella
running tarantella file now...
GNU LilyPond 2.11.50
Processing `tarantella.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... /usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/ 
scm/lily-library.scm:135:5: In procedure format-movement-markup in  
expression (process-procedure book paper ...):
/usr/local/lilypond/usr/share/lilypond/current/scm/lily-library.scm: 
135:5: Wrong number of arguments to #markup (dur count context)>




Usually when I get these error messages, it's because I have an  
unbalanced < or "



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Lilypond not working, XP

2008-07-03 Thread George_

I recently (i.e. about twenty minutes ago) downloaded the 2.11.50-1 version
of Lilypond, uninstalled 2.11.49, and installed the 2.11.50 version.
However, after I had done this, none of my .ly files worked in regards to
compilation; the traditional MS Windows Error Report window comes up saying
Lilypond has encountered a problem. The log file is generated, but nothing
else. And the log file has only one line:

# -*-compilation-*-

so not much info there.

So, thinking it was a problem with the latest version, I uninstalled that
and reinstalled 2.11.49. Basically the same thing happened.

I've tried it out and it works with 2.10.33, but is there any particular
reason that it wouldn't work with the two development versions? 

Thanks
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include does not find ly's

2008-07-03 Thread Arno Rog
L.S.

I my everlasting journey to engrave a complete cantata I've stumbled upon the
problem of nested includes. The problem has been mentioned before,
I was unable to find a solution.

I have the following directory-structure (Windows):

 .\
 .\PART1
 .\PART1\MUSIC
 .\PART1\MUSIC\violin.ly

The file score-part1.ly in directory .\PART1 contains
 \include "./MUSIC/violin.ly"
This works just fine
 
The file partitur.ly in directory .\ contains
 \include "./PART1/score-part1.ly"
This does not work, it is unable to find violin.ly

Is there a way to achieve this without using hardcoded path's?

Thanks in advance,

Arno Rog




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Re: include does not find ly's

2008-07-03 Thread Graham Percival
Not that I'm aware of.  There's a request for this in the issue
tracker; it even has a bounty attached.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:56:12 + (UTC)
Arno Rog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> L.S.
> 
> I my everlasting journey to engrave a complete cantata I've stumbled
> upon the problem of nested includes. The problem has been mentioned
> before, I was unable to find a solution.
> 
> I have the following directory-structure (Windows):
> 
>  .\
>  .\PART1
>  .\PART1\MUSIC
>  .\PART1\MUSIC\violin.ly
> 
> The file score-part1.ly in directory .\PART1 contains
>  \include "./MUSIC/violin.ly"
> This works just fine
>  
> The file partitur.ly in directory .\ contains
>  \include "./PART1/score-part1.ly"
> This does not work, it is unable to find violin.ly
> 
> Is there a way to achieve this without using hardcoded path's?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Arno Rog
> 
> 
> 
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Re: include does not find ly's

2008-07-03 Thread Mark Knoop
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 07:56 +, Arno Rog wrote:
> The file partitur.ly in directory .\ contains
>  \include "./PART1/score-part1.ly"
> This does not work, it is unable to find violin.ly
> 
> Is there a way to achieve this without using hardcoded path's?

Unfortunately not, although some people may know of workarounds.

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=391&q=include


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Re: Lilypond not working, XP

2008-07-03 Thread sdfgsdhdshd

On my XP, 2.11.50-1 crashes on every ly file, even simple ones.



George_ wrote:
> 
> I recently (i.e. about twenty minutes ago) downloaded the 2.11.50-1
> version of Lilypond, uninstalled 2.11.49, and installed the 2.11.50
> version. However, after I had done this, none of my .ly files worked in
> regards to compilation; the traditional MS Windows Error Report window
> comes up saying Lilypond has encountered a problem. The log file is
> generated, but nothing else. And the log file has only one line:
> 
> # -*-compilation-*-
> 
> so not much info there.
> 
> So, thinking it was a problem with the latest version, I uninstalled that
> and reinstalled 2.11.49. Basically the same thing happened.
> 
> I've tried it out and it works with 2.10.33, but is there any particular
> reason that it wouldn't work with the two development versions? 
> 
> Thanks
> 

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Re: include does not find ly's

2008-07-03 Thread Arno Rog
Mark Knoop  opus11.net> writes:

> 
> Unfortunately not, although some people may know of workarounds.
> 
> http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=391&q=include
> 

Mark,

Thanks for your reply.
I surely would love to have \includeRelative

Until then I'll include several (sets of) includes, luckily the missing includes
are ignored, causes large log-files though ;-)

Is there a way to speed up the realization of this? 

Arno Rog




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Re: Lilypond not working, XP

2008-07-03 Thread Luc


George_ wrote:
> 
>  The log file is generated, but nothing else. And the log file has only
> one line:
> 
I invoked lilypond with the verbose option which produced the attached
output:  http://www.nabble.com/file/p18256002/test.txt test.txt 


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Re: Miscellaneous part questions: Margins and ostinati

2008-07-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/7/3 Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> The correct answer is "Please read LM 3+4 in the 2.11 docs".

... Or that too, yes :-)


Cheers,
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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Johan Vromans
Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Here is an example.

Very nice!
Is there a way to avoid the naturals and sharps? They're rather
meaningless.

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Re: Error message using 2.11.50-1

2008-07-03 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/7/3 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I just installed the latest build and when I ran the file I'm working on, it
> came back with this error, which I think has to do with a macro included
> near the top of the document.

Yeah, I get the same error with the same macro. The good news is, you
can now use \tempo everywhere instead of \movement.


Cheers,
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strange lyric problem

2008-07-03 Thread James E. Bailey
I've just got an error on something that I've used before and after  
(in the same file!) and I don't understand it

GNU LilyPond 2.11.49
»Scene_1.2.ly« wird verarbeitet
Analysieren...
Scene_1.2.ly:170:35: Fehler: keine gültige Dauer: 47
mei4. -- de!8 \skip4|
   %47
Scene_1.2.ly:173:27: Fehler: keine gültige Dauer: 56
nah’?4. \skip4. |
%56
I use bar checks and measure number checks in every measure, and for  
the first time in lyricmode, it's processing the % as a word.

 the lyrics section of the manual doesn't mention anything about %
A word in Lyrics mode begins with: an alphabetic character,  
_, ?, !, :, ', the control characters ^A through ^F, ^Q through ^W,  
^Y, ^^, any 8-bit character with ASCII code over 127, or a two- 
character combination of a backslash followed by one of `, ', ", or ^.
and the same file doesn't have errors for measure %1 through %46, %48  
through %55 and %57 to the end in any of the 6 other parts I've done  
so far.


Of course I can just leave out the checks for these two measures, but  
oddly, the % shows up as a word in the score.


Should I just ignore it, or will this cause problems later on?

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Re: Lilypond not working, XP

2008-07-03 Thread sdfgsdhdshd

6 warnings.
Any conclusion?



Luc wrote:
> 
> 
> George_ wrote:
>> 
>>  The log file is generated, but nothing else. And the log file has only
>> one line:
>> 
> I invoked lilypond with the verbose option which produced the attached
> output:  http://www.nabble.com/file/p18256002/test.txt test.txt 
> 

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Re: strange lyric problem

2008-07-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi James,


it's processing the % as a word.


Are you on MacOS?

Regardless, it might be a carriage-return/line-feed issue (like the  
one I fight with in the MacOS Lilypond editor) -- see what happens if  
you surround the offending code/line with blank lines.


Good luck!
Kieren.


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Re: strange lyric problem

2008-07-03 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 03.07.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:


Hi James,


it's processing the % as a word.


Are you on MacOS?

Regardless, it might be a carriage-return/line-feed issue (like the  
one I fight with in the MacOS Lilypond editor) -- see what happens  
if you surround the offending code/line with blank lines.


Good luck!
Kieren.


Yes I am on MacOS. Great, another OSX problem. FWIW, I use nano as my  
editor.



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Re: strange lyric problem

2008-07-03 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 03.07.2008 um 14:28 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:


Hi James,


it's processing the % as a word.


Are you on MacOS?

Regardless, it might be a carriage-return/line-feed issue (like the  
one I fight with in the MacOS Lilypond editor) -- see what happens  
if you surround the offending code/line with blank lines.


Good luck!
Kieren.


Very strange, indeed. I took out the offending checks, went on with my  
typesetting, and just now added them in. Now, no problems.



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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Johan Vromans:
> Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Here is an example.
>
> Very nice!
> Is there a way to avoid the naturals and sharps? They're rather
> meaningless.

You mean the key signature (and its cancellation)? That's easy: Simple create 
the staff context manually and remove the Key_engraver there:

mychords = \chordmode { c1:7 f }
  
myrhythm = {
  \key f \major
  \improvisationOn
  e8 f8 r8 b8 r8 b8 r8 b |
  c1
}

<<
  \new ChordNames {
\mychords
\transpose f c { \mychords }
  }
  
  \new Staff \with { \remove Key_engraver }
  <<
\new Voice \with { \consists Pitch_squash_engraver } 
\relative c'' {
  \myrhythm
  \transpose f c { \myrhythm }
}
  >>
>>


Of equivalently (as long as all your staves should hide the key signature and 
all voices should use the Pitch_squash_engraver):

mychords = \chordmode { c1:7 f }
  
myrhythm = {
  \key f \major
  \improvisationOn
  e8 f8 r8 b8 r8 b8 r8 b |
  c1
}

\layout {
  \context { \Staff
\remove Key_engraver   
  }
  \context { \Voice
\consists Pitch_squash_engraver
  }
}

<<
  \new ChordNames {
\mychords
\transpose f c { \mychords }
  }
  
  \relative c'' {
\myrhythm
\transpose f c { \myrhythm }
  }
>>


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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Johan Vromans
[Quoting Reinhold Kainhofer, on July 3 2008, 15:07, in "Re: Chord Charts - r"]
> You mean the key signature (and its cancellation)? 

No, the accidentals (In your examples: the # in the 3rd measure).

The leading key signature is significant. However, when transposing
the chords, the key signature should be transposed as well (I think).

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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Chris Gray

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:


Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Johan Vromans:

Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Here is an example.


Very nice!
Is there a way to avoid the naturals and sharps? They're rather
meaningless.


You mean the key signature (and its cancellation)? That's easy: Simple create
the staff context manually and remove the Key_engraver there:




myrhythm = {
 \key f \major
 \improvisationOn
 e8 f8 r8 b8 r8 b8 r8 b |
 c1
}


Because b natural is used in the myrhythm in the first measure, a natural 
is used before that note head in the first measure.  Carl was just 
illustrating that pitch changes don't affect note head vertical positions. 
The best practice, I assume would be to use the root note of the chord 
rather than random notes and the accidentals should disappear.


Chris


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Re: beams

2008-07-03 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 28.06.2008 um 19:14 schrieb Andrew Hawryluk:
It looks like a bug to me. Here's a reduced snippet for the bug  
tracker:


% Slur and fingering interfere with cross-staff beaming.
% If either the fingering or the slur are removed, the
% correct beaming is used.

\version "2.11.49"
\new PianoStaff <<
 \new Staff \relative {
   \time 6/8 g''16 e c g \change Staff = "LH" \voiceOne e( c
   e, c'-1 e, c e c)
 }
 \new Staff = "LH" {
   \time 6/8 \clef bass s2.
 }







So is this a bug? or is there some way around this?


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Re: beams

2008-07-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi James,


So is this a bug?


Looks like it...


or is there some way around this?


Did my solution (posted earlier) not work for you?
Kieren.


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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
2008/7/3 Chris Gray :

>>Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Johan Vromans:
>>> Is there a way to avoid the naturals and sharps? They're rather
>>> meaningless.

> Because b natural is used in the myrhythm in the first measure, a natural is
> used before that note head in the first measure.  Carl was just illustrating
> that pitch changes don't affect note head vertical positions. The best
> practice, I assume would be to use the root note of the chord rather than
> random notes and the accidentals should disappear.

At first I couldn't understand the comment Johan wrote. I had compiled
Carl's example with 2.11 and it didn't create any extra accidentals.
After I compiled it with 2.10 I got the point. :-)

-Risto


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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Carl Sorensen
Johan Vromans  squirrel.nl> writes:

> 
> Carl Sorensen  byu.edu> writes:
> 
> > Here is an example.
> 
> Very nice!
> Is there a way to avoid the naturals and sharps? They're rather
> meaningless.
> 


What version of LilyPond are you using?  I'm using 2.11.50, and I have
no accidentals, just the key signatures.

If you are using an older version that includes accidentals, you could
eliminate them with

\new Staff \with {
  \remove Accidental_engraver
}

before the simultaneous music expression.


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Re: Lilypond not working, XP

2008-07-03 Thread Luc


sdfgsdhdshd wrote:
> 
> 6 warnings.
> Any conclusion?
> 

no - I don't speak this language but I just thought an expert might find
something interesting in it...

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Re: Terrible question about a distinctive chord name system

2008-07-03 Thread Stefan Thomas
Dear hhpmusic,
I've already started with some of the "funktionsbezeichnungen". I think, it
will be a lot of work to make a library with all the necessary sympols. But
maybee we can share the work.
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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Johan Vromans:
> [Quoting Reinhold Kainhofer, on July 3 2008, 15:07, in "Re: Chord Charts -
> r"]
>
> > You mean the key signature (and its cancellation)?
>
> No, the accidentals (In your examples: the # in the 3rd measure).

Ah, I was using lilypond 2.11.x, and there are not accidentals there...

In that case, simply remove the Accidental_engraver from the staff (i.e. 
replace \remove Key_engraver in my previous example by
\remove Accidental_engraver).

Cheers,
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Re: beams

2008-07-03 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 03.07.2008 um 15:47 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:


Hi James,


So is this a bug?


Looks like it...


or is there some way around this?


Did my solution (posted earlier) not work for you?
Kieren.


not with the cross-staff slur


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Moving horizontally a \markup block that's outside score

2008-07-03 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
Hi,

I was wondering if it's possible to move around a \markup block that's
outside the \score block. Inside the music section you can do wonders
with \override TextScript #'whatever but I couldn't come up with a
solution for this situation. I've attached an example below.

I'm asking this is because I am writing a song with several verses and
as usual there's not too much space at the end of the song. The markup
lines are creeping off to the right and if I just could move the whole
markup a bit to left then it would look OK.

-Risto

%%%
\version "2.11.49"

\paper { indent = #0 }

{
\new ChoirStaff
<<
\new Staff { c'2 c' }
\new Staff { c'2 c' }
>>
}

\markup
{
\column { "How to move this horizontally?"
"Preferably up to the thick line on the left."}
}
%%%
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Re: Moving horizontally a \markup block that's outside score

2008-07-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Risto,


 was wondering if it's possible to move around
a \markup block that's outside the \score block.


One solution is to use \translate.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


\paper { indent = #0 }

{
\new ChoirStaff
<<
\new Staff { c'2 c' }
\new Staff { c'2 c' }
>>
}

\markup
{
\translate #'(-1.5 . 0) \column
{
"How to move this horizontally?"
"Preferably up to the thick line on the left."
}
}


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globally set \markup \box #'box-padding

2008-07-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan

[Lilypond 2.11.49]

Hello all,

I need boxed markups with a set padding, i.e. I'm currently using

^\markup { \override #'(box-padding . 1) \box { ... } }

How can I set this value once, rather than needing to do it each  
time? I've tried


\override TextScript #'box-padding = #1

but Lilypond says

"warning: cannot find property type-check for 'box-padding'..."

Any help would be appreciated.
Kieren.


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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Johan Vromans
Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What version of LilyPond are you using?  I'm using 2.11.50, and I have
> no accidentals, just the key signatures.

I'm using 2.10.33. Thanks for all the pointers to solutions.

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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Oscar
Hi,
This is great, but Is it possible to insert some melody measures with
standard notation??

Thanks,
Oscar.

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Johan Vromans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Carl Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > What version of LilyPond are you using?  I'm using 2.11.50, and I have
> > no accidentals, just the key signatures.
>
> I'm using 2.10.33. Thanks for all the pointers to solutions.
>
> -- Johan
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Are parallel slurs possible?

2008-07-03 Thread sdfgsdhdshd

In a score with 3 notes, is it possible that the first note has a dashed slur
with the third, while the second note has a solid slur with the third?

Thank.



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Re: Are parallel slurs possible?

2008-07-03 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi 'sdfgsdhdshd'...  ;-)

In a score with 3 notes, is it possible that the first note has a  
dashed slur

with the third, while the second note has a solid slur with the third?


You could do something like the following:

%
\version "2.11.49"
\include "english.ly"

phrasingSlurDashed =
{
\override PhrasingSlur #'dash-period = #0.75
\override PhrasingSlur #'dash-fraction = #0.4
}

\relative
{
\phrasingSlurDashed c'\( d( e)\)
}
%%

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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Re: Chord Charts - rhythm and chords

2008-07-03 Thread Carl Sorensen
Oscar  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 
> Hi,This is great, but Is it possible to insert some melody measures with 
> standard notation?? 
> Thanks,Oscar.


Of course.

% Begin Snippet

mychords = \chordmode {
  c1:7
  f
}

myrhythm = {
  \key f \major
  e8 f8 r8 b8 r8 b8 r8 b |
  c1
}   
%\new Staff \with {
%  \remove Accidental_engraver
%} 
<<
  \new ChordNames {
\mychords
\transpose f c {
  \mychords
}
  }

  
  \new Voice \with {
\consists Pitch_squash_engraver
  } \relative c'' {
   \improvisationOn
\myrhythm
\transpose f c {
  \myrhythm
}
  }

  \new Voice {
\relative c'' {
\improvisationOff
\myrhythm
\transpose f c {
  \relative c'' { \myrhythm }
}
  }
  }
>>


 End snippet

You should really check out the LilyPond Snippet Repository when looking 
for things like this.  It will save you lots of time.  Just google LilyPond 
Snippet Repository.

Carl









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Re: Are parallel slurs possible?

2008-07-03 Thread Carl Sorensen
sdfgsdhdshd  orange.fr> writes:

> 
> 
> In a score with 3 notes, is it possible that the first note has a dashed slur
> with the third, while the second note has a solid slur with the third?
> 
> Thank.
> 


Kieren gave you a great answer on how to get the dashes you need.

Perhaps another answer to your question is that you can't have parallel
slurs, but you can have a slur in parallel with a PhrasingSlur.

See NR1.3.2:
http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/Documentation/user/lilypond/Curves.html#Curves

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Re: Are parallel slurs possible?

2008-07-03 Thread sdfgsdhdshd



Kieren MacMillan wrote:
> 
> Hi 'sdfgsdhdshd'...  ;-)
> 
>> In a score with 3 notes, is it possible that the first note has a  
>> dashed slur
>> with the third, while the second note has a solid slur with the third?
> 
> You could do something like the following:
> 
> %
> \version "2.11.49"
> \include "english.ly"
> 
> phrasingSlurDashed =
> {
>   \override PhrasingSlur #'dash-period = #0.75
>   \override PhrasingSlur #'dash-fraction = #0.4
> }
> 
> \relative
> {
>   \phrasingSlurDashed c'\( d( e)\)
> }
> %%
> 
> Hope this helps!
> Kieren.
> 


Thanks!!
I will modify my question, based on your example: how to modify it to get:
1) first 2 notes: solid slur
2) last 2 notes: dashed slur
3) (still the dashed slur between the first and last note).

i know how to do it with only point 1) and 2), but not with all points.



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Re: Are parallel slurs possible?

2008-07-03 Thread sdfgsdhdshd



sdfgsdhdshd wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Kieren MacMillan wrote:
>> 
>> Hi 'sdfgsdhdshd'...  ;-)
>> 
>>> In a score with 3 notes, is it possible that the first note has a  
>>> dashed slur
>>> with the third, while the second note has a solid slur with the third?
>> 
>> You could do something like the following:
>> 
>> %
>> \version "2.11.49"
>> \include "english.ly"
>> 
>> phrasingSlurDashed =
>> {
>>  \override PhrasingSlur #'dash-period = #0.75
>>  \override PhrasingSlur #'dash-fraction = #0.4
>> }
>> 
>> \relative
>> {
>>  \phrasingSlurDashed c'\( d( e)\)
>> }
>> %%
>> 
>> Hope this helps!
>> Kieren.
>> 
> 
> 
> Thanks!!
> I will modify my question, based on your example: how to modify it to get:
> 1) first 2 notes: solid slur
> 2) last 2 notes: dashed slur
> 3) (still the dashed slur between the first and last note).
> 
> i know how to do it with only point 1) and 2), but not with all points.
> 


OK i did it, based on you reply and the one from Carl Sorensen.



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Re: Error message using 2.11.50-1

2008-07-03 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Thanks Valentin.  I changed it to \tempo and it worked fine.  All is 
good!  Best,


Jonathan

Valentin Villenave wrote:

2008/7/3 Jonathan Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


I just installed the latest build and when I ran the file I'm working on, it
came back with this error, which I think has to do with a macro included
near the top of the document.


Yeah, I get the same error with the same macro. The good news is, you
can now use \tempo everywhere instead of \movement.


Cheers,
Valentin



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Re: \repeat with upbeat (partial) and alternatives

2008-07-03 Thread Robin Bannister
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> All the choral scores that I have seen put the pickup note before the |: and 
> use whole measures for the voltas (like in the attached example). 
> 
> Patrick Horgan wrote:
> > What else are you going to do if there's a pickup note 
> > and the 2nd ending goes on?  You can write the second ending as an end 
> > followed by a partial pickup, but this solution seems more elegant, and why 
> > reading voice would certainly be simpler to read.  Choirs are filled with 
> > folks whose reading skills are minimal to nonexistant. 

> Exactly, that's why voltas typically span whole measures... 



This is surely not the whole story. 
The repeated music |: to :| is then not congruent with the lyrics. 
In a song with several verses the first verse is ok, 
but subsequent verses get split. 
Their upbeat lyrics are off somewhere on another page. 
But for easy reading, these should be up front, especially if words get split.

___

1. Close your | eyes and I'll ...

  | 2. tend that I'm ...

___

1. Es war schon | dunkel, als ...

| 2. zählten sie ...
___

Cheers,
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Re: Lilypond working on Mac OS X 10.5, thanks

2008-07-03 Thread Christopher Suckling
On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 08:02:32PM +, Carl Sorensen wrote:

> Christopher Suckling  googlemail.com> writes:
> 
> This looks really interesting, but I'm enough of a newbie to MacOS that
> it's hard for me to follow it all.
> 
> > 
> > Sorry it's a brief write up - I'm a bit rushed now. If you want more
> > details (tomorrow at earliest), let me know.
> 
> Please do!
> 

Best thing to do is to go through from scratch, then you can alter to
suit your own textediting preferences.

1) Delete any old PPC LilyPond binaries

2) Download and install Platypus: 

http://www.sveinbjorn.org/platypus

(Please refer to it's documentation as necessary for the following
steps)

3) Create a new application wrapping the following Applescript:


property urlPrefix : "textedit://"

on open location texteditURL

-- strip prefix 
set the character_count to the number of characters of the urlPrefix
set the emacsclientURL to (characters (the character_count + 1) thru -1 
of the texteditURL) as string

-- extract PATH LINE and COLUMN
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to ":"
set emacsclientPATH to first text item of emacsclientURL
set emacsclientLINE to second text item of emacsclientURL
set emacsclientCOLUMN to last text item of emacsclientURL
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to ""

-- launch emacsclient
do shell script "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/bin/emacsclient 
--no-wait +" & emacsclientLINE & ":" & emacsclientCOLUMN & " " & emacsclientPATH
end open location


This obviously opens LilyPond's hyperlinks in Emacs. To launch other
editors, you will want to change the "do shell script" line; although
I called the variables emacsclientFOO, they are not reliant on
Emacs. They merely separate out the file, line and column numbers from
LilyPond's textedit URL.


4) Having saved your new application, right-click on it and select
   "Show Package Contents".

Open Contents/Info.plist in your favourite text editor.

Add the following lines under the CFBundleSignature string:


CFBundleURLTypes


CFBundleURLName
retrieve textedit urls generated by 
lilypond
CFBundleURLSchemes

textedit




Save Info.plist and you should be good to go...

5) QuickLook LilyPond files. 

Two choices: you could add the following to your previously created
script wrapper; I prefer to use a separate wrapper as I have a few
different file types that aren't supported by default; rather than
alter the Info.plist of every application that is associated with
these file, I store them all in the following wrapper:

6) Create another Platypus wrapper, this time without any script.

7) As before, edit it's Info.plist

Add the following lines somewhere within the top-level dictionary:

UTExportedTypeDeclarations
 

UTTypeConformsTo

public.source-code

UTTypeDescription
LilyPond Source File
UTTypeIdentifier
org.lilypond.lilypond
UTTypeTagSpecification

public.filename-extension

ly
lily
ily




   
8) You may have to logout/login for this to take effect

9) Coloured syntax for LilyPond QuickLook:

Download and install QLColorCode

http://code.google.com/p/qlcolorcode/

10) Download Highlight source package (not the OS X package)

http://www.andre-simon.de/index.html

11) From Highlight, extract the following files:

langDefs/ly.lang

12) Copy the ly.lang file to (don't forget to right-click to see the
package contents)

QLColorCode.qlgenerator/Contents/Resources/override/langDefs/

13) Edit
QLColorCode.qlgenerator/Contents/Resources/override/config/filetypes.conf 

Add

$ext(lilypond)=ly lily ily  

to the list.

And you should be good to go.

Haven't got a Spotlight importer working yet, but otherwise it's a
pretty complete OS X LilyPond environment...

Hope this is of some use,

Christopher


 



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Chord Names — seen but not heard?

2008-07-03 Thread 99% Perspiration
Chord Names are preferable to free text because it is transposable.
However, I do not want the clunk of a Piano chord with every chord name symbol.

This sound occurs even if chord-name is visible as notes or not.

This is not where the actual chord is a composite of notes on various staves. 
 
Is there a simple way a beginner can turn it off?





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Re: \repeat with upbeat (partial) and alternatives

2008-07-03 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister:
> This is surely not the whole story.
> The repeated music |: to :| is then not congruent with the lyrics.
> In a song with several verses the first verse is ok,
> but subsequent verses get split.
> Their upbeat lyrics are off somewhere on another page.
> But for easy reading, these should be up front, especially if words get
> split.

Actually, all choir scores that I have do it exactly this way. I have never 
seen any choir score, where the volta does not span whole measures.

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Re: LilPond not working, XP

2008-07-03 Thread hhpmusic
 Hi,
  I guess this is because of the compilation error when building the binary. I 
uninstalled 2.11.50, and delet the bin folder which still contains a .dll file. 
Then the reinstalled 2.11.49 can work well. Perhaps the problem is in that .dll 
file, because someone said he also can't run 2.11.49. I always delete programs 
completely, sometimes even dlete items in the registry. So, for XP users, 
you/we have to wait for the next version.
 
Haipeng
 
 
 
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Re: Moving horizontally a \markup block that's outside score

2008-07-03 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
2008/7/3 Kieren MacMillan:

> One solution is to use \translate.
>
> Hope this helps!

Oh, yes. That did the trick. Thanks, Kieren.

-Risto


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