Re: Starting a new staff in the same line

[Till]

Ok, maybe I should rephrase the question to make it easier to understand:

The first idea was to have a new score starting in the same line as the
first one stops, but this seems not to work. Here's an image the user
provided:

http://www.nabble.com/file/p16323349/graphic.png 

Is there a workaround for that? Like stopping the staves, inserting white
space, calling possibly staff brackets/braces again and start the staves
again?



Till wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> a user at lilypondforum.de asked how to stop a staff group and start a 
> new one after a short white space with a new system start delimiter 
> bracket. I couldn't really help, I pointed to the \startStaff and 
> \stopStaff commands, but they won't produce the starting bracket.
> Also when making a new staff the first one gets continued and the second 
> one aligned vertically under it.
> As a workaround I also gave the incipit workaround that is putting the 
> score in the instrument name engraver. But this is not really working 
> with staff groups: the vertical alignment is bad. And he also has 
> "incipits" longer than one line so I don't know how they would behave -- 
> I guess this is not possible.
> 
> There is probably an easy solution, who knows it?
> 
> Greetings
> Till
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Re: Starting a new staff in the same line

[Mats Bengtsson]

As far as I know, there's no easy way to insert a system start delimiter 
in the middle
of a score. There was recently a long discussion on the mailing list, 
related to incipits,
you may want to look there and see if any of the solutions discussed 
there may be

useful.

   /Mats

Till wrote:

Ok, maybe I should rephrase the question to make it easier to understand:

The first idea was to have a new score starting in the same line as the
first one stops, but this seems not to work. Here's an image the user
provided:

http://www.nabble.com/file/p16323349/graphic.png 


Is there a workaround for that? Like stopping the staves, inserting white
space, calling possibly staff brackets/braces again and start the staves
again?



Till wrote:
  

Hi all,
a user at lilypondforum.de asked how to stop a staff group and start a 
new one after a short white space with a new system start delimiter 
bracket. I couldn't really help, I pointed to the \startStaff and 
\stopStaff commands, but they won't produce the starting bracket.
Also when making a new staff the first one gets continued and the second 
one aligned vertically under it.
As a workaround I also gave the incipit workaround that is putting the 
score in the instrument name engraver. But this is not really working 
with staff groups: the vertical alignment is bad. And he also has 
"incipits" longer than one line so I don't know how they would behave -- 
I guess this is not possible.


There is probably an easy solution, who knows it?

Greetings
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Re: Starting a new staff in the same line

[Till Rettig]

Thanks,
I remember this discussion, it also appeared to me that there might be
some solution, but I thought maybe there would be another easier way
like just letting the following score begin in the same line.
I will check out the incipit issue.

Greetings
Till

Mats Bengtsson schrieb:
As far as I know, there's no easy way to insert a system start 
delimiter in the middle
of a score. There was recently a long discussion on the mailing list, 
related to incipits,
you may want to look there and see if any of the solutions discussed 
there may be

useful.

   /Mats

Till wrote:
Ok, maybe I should rephrase the question to make it easier to 
understand:


The first idea was to have a new score starting in the same line as the
first one stops, but this seems not to work. Here's an image the user
provided:

http://www.nabble.com/file/p16323349/graphic.png
Is there a workaround for that? Like stopping the staves, inserting 
white

space, calling possibly staff brackets/braces again and start the staves
again?



Till wrote:
 

Hi all,
a user at lilypondforum.de asked how to stop a staff group and start 
a new one after a short white space with a new system start 
delimiter bracket. I couldn't really help, I pointed to the 
\startStaff and \stopStaff commands, but they won't produce the 
starting bracket.
Also when making a new staff the first one gets continued and the 
second one aligned vertically under it.
As a workaround I also gave the incipit workaround that is putting 
the score in the instrument name engraver. But this is not really 
working with staff groups: the vertical alignment is bad. And he 
also has "incipits" longer than one line so I don't know how they 
would behave -- I guess this is not possible.


There is probably an easy solution, who knows it?

Greetings
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point and click

[robcanning]

hi,

trying to get point and click working

i am following instructions here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/lilypond/Point-and-click.html#fn-2

and see i'm not alone:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg26266.html

i am on debian lenny
Mozilla Iceweasel 2.0.0.11
xpdf version 3.02GNU 
lilypond-invoke-editor (GNU LilyPond) 2.10.33 



i have created a user.js file and added this:

user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.textedit", "lilypond-invoke-editor");
user_pref("network.protocol-handler.warn-external.textedit", false);

and added this to my .xpdfrc

urlCommand "lilypond-invoke-editor %s"
urlCommand "firefox -remote 'OpenURL(%s)'"

i get this error from xpdf:

/usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: Symbol `SSL_ImplementedCiphers' has different 
size in shared object, consider re-linking


and in firefox i get the error that the protocol text edit isn't associated 
with any program

any hints to what i am doing wrong?


thanks

rob c




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Re: point and click

[robcanning]

not sure what happened but now its working fine..
excuse the noise
thanks

rob c

robcanning wrote:

hi,

trying to get point and click working

i am following instructions here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/lilypond/Point-and-click.html#fn-2 



and see i'm not alone:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user@gnu.org/msg26266.html

i am on debian lenny
Mozilla Iceweasel 2.0.0.11
xpdf version 3.02GNU lilypond-invoke-editor (GNU LilyPond) 2.10.33

i have created a user.js file and added this:

user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.textedit", 
"lilypond-invoke-editor");

user_pref("network.protocol-handler.warn-external.textedit", false);

and added this to my .xpdfrc

urlCommand "lilypond-invoke-editor %s"
urlCommand "firefox -remote 'OpenURL(%s)'"

i get this error from xpdf:

/usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: Symbol `SSL_ImplementedCiphers' has 
different size in shared object, consider re-linking



and in firefox i get the error that the protocol text edit isn't 
associated with any program


any hints to what i am doing wrong?


thanks

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Text alignment under reciting tone

[Hugh]

Dear All: 

This may be a n00b question, but here goes. I'm trying to format a 
chant with several stanzas under one chant. The lyrics underneath the 
reciting tone (in this case a b-flat) insist on center-aligning 
themselves, despite all of my \left-aligns to the contrary. This gives 
the text a "christmas-tree" effect. I assume that the problem is in 
the lyrics context, but I am completely at a loss as to how to fix it, 
and the the documentation has no leads. 


Thanks for any help you can give. 


Hugh 


\version "2.10.33" 


\include "english.ly" 
\include "anglican-init.ly" 
stemon = { \override Staff.Stem #'transparent = ##f } 
stemoff = { \override Staff.Stem #'transparent = ##t } 


\score { \relative c'' 
\new Staff \with { \remove "Time_signature_engraver" } 
{ << 
\key f \major 
\new Voice = "one" { \stemoff bf \breve c2 
\bar "|" bf4 bf g a bf2 
\bar "|" } 
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "one" { 
\markup { Holy God, Creator of Heaven and } Earth. Have mer -- 
cy on 
us. } 
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "one" { 
\markup { Holy and Mighty, Redeemer of the } World. Have mer --
 cy 
on us. } 
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "one" { 
\markup { Holy Immortal One, Sanctifier of the } Faithful. 
Have mer 
-- cy on us. } 
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "one" { 
\markup { Holy, blessed and glorious Trinity, One } God. Have 
mer -- 
cy on us. } 
\set Score.timing = ##f 



} 



   \layout { raggedright = ##t } 
   \midi { } 




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Re: Text alignment under reciting tone

[Deacon Geoffrey Horton]

Try this:

\new Lyrics \lyricsto "one" {
   \once \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #-1 "Holy God,
Creator of Heaven and" Earth.


etc.


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Re: Compilation

[Tim Reeves]

Alan,

It looked like no one else responded to you, so I'll give it a go.

It looks like your problem is not with Lilypond, but with Ghostscript.  Is 
Ghostscript 8.57 a stable version?
I'm running version 8.53 with no problems, although on XP SP2, not on 
WinME.
Has anyone ever suggested that you try a different OS (e.g. Win 2K or XP)?
I've heard a lot of bad things about Win ME. Please don't take offense. It 
might be no problem for you.

Just my thoughts. Good luck. Lilypond is a great program.


Tim Reeves



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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:03:59 -
From: "Alan Hardinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compilation
To: 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Dear Sirs,
I have not been able to compile your LilyPond program. I get the following 
error message in the log file.

# -*-compilation-*-
Processing `C:/My Documents/test.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [2]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Layout output to `C:My Documents.ps'...
Converting to `C:My Documents.pdf'...GPL Ghostscript SVN PRE-RELEASE 8.57: 
Unrecoverable error, exit code 1

I am using a Microsoft Windows ME system 4.90.3000 on an Intel Celeron 
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Re: Text alignment under reciting tone

[Mats Bengtsson]

Quoting Deacon Geoffrey Horton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Try this:

\new Lyrics \lyricsto "one" {
  \once \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #-1 "Holy God,
Creator of Heaven and" Earth.


etc.


Note that you can replace the #-1 by #LEFT, which might be easier
and more intuitive to remember.

   /Mats



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Re: simultaneous free rhythms

[luis jure]

El Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:09:25 +0100
Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> this may be serve as a model (fractional arithmetic...)

thanks a lot, ole. with your help and a few hints i found in a previous
thread (thanks, mats) i've been able to solve the problem quite
satisfactorily. i used a large measure for the whole section, with
\compressMusic to accommodate the different parts. i also used \remove
"Forbid_line_break_engraver" to introduce line breaks (still a bit
mysterious to me, but it seems to work the way i want). 

all in all it's quite passable. here's the code and the result. if
anyone detects something that's not quite right or could be better, i'd
greatly appreciate any suggestions for improvement. articulations,
dynamics, etc. are still missing.

\version "2.11.42"

\header {
}


staffViolin = \new Staff  {
\time 52/4
\set Staff.instrumentName="Violin I"
\key c \major
\clef treble
\compressMusic #'(26 . 27)
\new Voice \with {\remove "Forbid_line_break_engraver"}
\relative c' {  
%  54/4
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
s1 s1 s2 g='''1\fermata \breathe
dis,\fermata \breathe a,\fermata \breathe b'\fermata \breathe
bes''\fermata \breathe c,,\fermata \breathe d'\fermata \breathe
des,,\fermata \breathe aes''\fermata \breathe ges,\fermata
\breathe r\fermata } }

staffViolinII = \new Staff  {
\set Staff.instrumentName="Violin II"
\clef treble
\compressMusic #'(26 . 29)
\new Voice \with {\remove "Forbid_line_break_engraver"}
\relative c' {  
% 58/4
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
s1 s2 f='''1 \fermata \breathe e, \fermata \breathe
bes, \fermata \breathe b'' \fermata \breathe c, \fermata
\breathe fis, \fermata \breathe g'' \fermata \breathe cis,,, \fermata
\breathe a''' \fermata \breathe r \fermata s1 s1 s1 

}

}
staffViola = \new Staff  {
\set Staff.instrumentName="Viola"
\clef treble
\compressMusic #'(26 . 28)
\new Voice \with {\remove "Forbid_line_break_engraver"}
\relative c' {  
% 56/4
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
s4 s1 s1 aes=1 \fermata \breathe
a'' \fermata \breathe \clef alto ees,, \fermata \breathe d'
\fermata \breathe a' \fermata \breathe g \fermata \breathe \clef treble
b' \fermata \breathe des, \fermata \breathe f, \fermata \breathe r
\fermata s1 s2. }
}



staffCello = \new Staff  {
\set Staff.instrumentName="Cello"
\new Voice \with {\remove "Forbid_line_break_engraver"}
\relative c' { 
% 52/4 (51.75/4 + s16)
\once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
\clef treble
a'8[ b16] s16 r2 a8 r bes aes r4 r8 bes a b r4 r8 b[ b b] \bar
"" \break r2 c8 fis ~ fis r4 r8 c fis2 b,8 bes' r4 bes8 r4 bes aes \bar
"" \break r4 a8[ gis16] r2 g8 aes4 r8 g a4 ees16 r2 cis8[ d16] r4 \bar
"" \break r8 c b4. bes8 d r2 b'8 r2 b4 c8 r2 r4 cis16 r1 \fermata

}

}


\score {
<<
\staffViolin
\staffViolinII
\staffViola
\staffCello
>>

\midi {
}

\layout  {
}
}

\paper {
}
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Re: Compilation

[Mats Bengtsson]

Quoting Tim Reeves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Alan,

It looked like no one else responded to you, so I'll give it a go.

It looks like your problem is not with Lilypond, but with Ghostscript.


I don't this so. If you read the printouts carefully, you will notice
that it tries to create a file C:My Documents.ps instead of C:/My 
Documents/test.ps, which doesn't make sense. I haven't seen

any such problems in Windows XP so you may be right that it's somehow
related to Win ME. I have seen some reasonably recent emails claiming
that the LilyPond works even in Win 982E, though.

Alan, exactly what did you do to process your test.ly file? Did you
double-click on the file or drag/drop it onto the LilyPond icon on the 
desktop or ...?

Also, please tell exactly which LilyPond version you installed.

   /Mats


Is Ghostscript 8.57 a stable version?
I'm running version 8.53 with no problems, although on XP SP2, not on
WinME.
Has anyone ever suggested that you try a different OS (e.g. Win 2K or XP)?
I've heard a lot of bad things about Win ME. Please don't take offense. It
might be no problem for you.

Just my thoughts. Good luck. Lilypond is a great program.


Tim Reeves



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Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 23:03:59 -
From: "Alan Hardinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Compilation
To: 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Dear Sirs,
I have not been able to compile your LilyPond program. I get the following
error message in the log file.

# -*-compilation-*-
Processing `C:/My Documents/test.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [2]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Layout output to `C:My Documents.ps'...
Converting to `C:My Documents.pdf'...GPL Ghostscript SVN PRE-RELEASE 8.57:
Unrecoverable error, exit code 1

I am using a Microsoft Windows ME system 4.90.3000 on an Intel Celeron
computer. I would appreciate very much any help in getting going.
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Re: simultaneous free rhythms

[Mats Bengtsson]

Quoting luis jure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

...
all in all it's quite passable. here's the code and the result. if
anyone detects something that's not quite right or could be better, i'd
greatly appreciate any suggestions for improvement. articulations,
dynamics, etc. are still missing.
...
\new Voice \with {\remove "Forbid_line_break_engraver"}


Instead of repeating this for every Voice in the score, it's easier to 
redefine the default definition of Voice contexts, by adding

\layout{
 \context{
   \Voice
   \remove Forbid_line_break_engraver
 }
}
either at the top level of the file, or at the end of the \score{...}
block.

  /Mats



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Re: simultaneous free rhythms

[luis jure]

El Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:10:59 +0100
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> Instead of repeating this for every Voice in the score, it's easier
> to redefine the default definition of Voice contexts, by adding
> \layout{
>   \context{
> \Voice
> \remove Forbid_line_break_engraver
>   }
> }

i did it that way because this part in free rhythm is only the last
section of the piece. until then (almost) everything is notated in
normal measures. that's also why i'm writing a general score and not
only the separate parts, like i did in another piece where all the
instruments play independently, following only some aural cues. 

(in case anyone is interested, you can listen to that piece here:
http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/obras/atraccion_fatal.mp3
and to the string quartet here:
http://www.eumus.edu.uy/docentes/jure/obras/cuarteto.mp3)


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Re: \smallCaps and special characteres

[Nicholas WASTELL]

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:26:20 -0700 (PDT)
Zenith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I thought it would be an easy way, :confused:at this moment, this solution
> is too advanced to me. %-|

Too advanced for me, too!

I have been using this construction for non-ascii characters:

\markup { \concat { "C" \small "HŒUR" }}

which works well, but is not as convenient as \smallCaps, of course.

A couple of questions:

If there is a workable alternative to using guile for the small-caps feature, 
could it be included in lilypond?

What is the difference between \caps and \smallCaps?  They seem to give 
identical results (where I have used them), with the same limitation for 
non-ascii text.


Rgds

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Re: smallCaps and special characteres

[Mats Bengtsson]

Quoting Nicholas WASTELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:26:20 -0700 (PDT)
Zenith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 I thought it would be an easy way, :confused:at this moment, this solution
is too advanced to me. %-|


Too advanced for me, too!


I don't think it's so advanced to use. The nice thing is that you only 
have to copy and paste Nicolas function definitions directly into your 
own .ly file. There's no need to understand exactly

how it works. Then you can use the \smallCaps markup command
just as usual, with the difference that it will handle more
characters the correct way.

   /Mats



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Re: do these notes exist?

[ajb]

G'day.

Quoting Ledocq-Boccart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Sorry having missmatched es for is ...OUPS!


That's okay, it was clear by the context what you meant.


May I know what is the meaning of  G'day...?


It's short for "good day", and it's an Australian greeting.

Andrew Bromage


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Re: point and click

[Nicholas WASTELL]

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:56:11 +
robcanning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> trying to get point and click working

I spent a bit of time getting Evince to work with Lilypond point & click and 
found this thread useful:



It's necessary to associate an action (in Gnome) to the textedit:// URI 
embedded in the pdf.  I did get it working, but I didn't go beyond bringing the 
.ly file edit point up in jEdit (where it was anyway).

All you need is in the link above. ;-)


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Re: vim compiles always in root directory

[Anh Hai Trinh]

My problem:

1. In Gvim I compile a *.ly file somewhere in a directory. I use F5 to
compile it.
2. The output files (*.ps an *pdf) are always in root directory


You need to cd into the directory where you want the output. Either do  
that before bringing vim up (from the command line), or from inside vim  
with

:cd your/path

--aht


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Accordion notation: registers, stradella

[George_]

I play the accordion, and sometimes receive hand-written music, which for
purposes of legibility and to provide additional copies to scribble all over
when I am learning, I would like typeset onto a computer and stored
electronically. This is all well and good, except I can't find out how to do
two things on Lilypond:

1) Somehow represent the different registers used on the accordion and in
accordion music (circular, not rectangle)
and
2) Represent chords in the Stradella bass system.

Is there a way to do this on the present version of Lilypond, and if not,
could this be implemented into a future version please?

Thanks.
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