Lilypond-book can´t find my files

2007-01-28 Thread Claus Rogge
Sorry folks, another wall I ran my head into ... I managed to install
lilypond-book and run it. However, when I give it a file to feed on
(deadwood.lytex - written with latex and extension changed manually,
don´t know if that´s right??) it stubbornly insists that the file
(intro.ly) is not found 

lilypond-book: error: file not found:
\Users/claus/Documents/Lilypond/Transcriptions/Deadwood/intro.ly

even if it´s definitely there:

Claus-Rogges-Computer.local ~/Documents/Lilypond/Transcriptions/Deadwood
claus$ls
total 5016
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus   8 Jan 27 12:57 deadwood.aux
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus5532 Jan 27 12:57 deadwood.log
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  wheel 313 Jan 28 09:21 deadwood.lytex
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus  191115 Jan 27 12:57 deadwood.pdf
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  wheel 316 Jan 28 09:14 deadwood.tex
>>-rw-r--r--   1 claus  wheel1105 Jan 27 10:40 intro.ly
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus   71531 Jan 27 10:47 intro.pdf
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus  511567 Jan 27 10:47 intro.ps
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus  55 Jan 28 09:27 snippet-map.ly
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  wheel 946 Jan 27 10:47 strophe.ly
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus   65189 Jan 27 10:47 strophe.pdf
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus  508160 Jan 27 10:47 strophe.ps
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus   8 Jan 28 09:27 tmpfOi7SA.aux
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  wheel1021 Jan 27 10:48 zwsp1.ly
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus   66000 Jan 27 10:48 zwsp1.pdf
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus  506118 Jan 27 10:48 zwsp1.ps
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  wheel 983 Jan 27 10:48 zwsp2.ly
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus   69736 Jan 27 10:48 zwsp2.pdf
-rw-r--r--   1 claus  claus  513199 Jan 27 10:48 zwsp2.ps

I hope that my questions are getting less dumb along the way but please
give me another chance! What am I doing wrong THIS time?

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Re: proposal: second style for quartertone accidentals

2007-01-28 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi all,

 thanks for pointing that out. That's exactly along the lines I was
thinking. Is anybody capable of doing the scheme/lilypond code? I
don't know Metafont yet but I think I could handle that part and throw
in the glyphs (they are currently PS Type1).

--
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Am 28. Januar 2007, 05:19 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Juergen Reuter:
> Hi, all!
> 
> Please note that we already have a style property for Accidental grobs. 
> For example, for yielding ancient notation accidentals, you may say:
> 
> \override Accidental #'style = #'vaticana
> 
> Hence, the natural way is to introduce another style for 
> different microtonal glyphs.  They are not present in standard western 
> europe ancient notation and therefore do not collide with ancient 
> accidental styles.  Hence, it is natural to introduce a new Accidental 
> style, say, for example:
> 
> \override Accidental #'style = #'arrowed
> 
> or maybe even better
> 
> \override Accidental #'style = #'default-arrowed
> 
> to indicate that the non-microtonal accidentals are still to be taken 
> from the default font, i.e. default and default-arrowed only differ in 
> microtonal glyphs.
> 
> Unfortunately, the code for checking and handling the Accidental style 
> property is still hardcoded in lily/accidental.cc in method
> 
> string
> Accidental_interface::get_fontcharname (string style, int alteration)
> 
> rather than being handled at runtime through scheme code, as is done with 
> notehead style in the scheme function note-head::calc-glyph-name in file 
> scm/output-lib.scm.
> 
> The input syntax ("aeh", "aesih", "gisih", etc.) should probably be 
> independent from the above selection of glyphs, as we usually try to 
> strictly separate musical content and engraving style.  Considering this 
> principle, maybe the right thing is -- similarly to including proper 
> internationalized notenames -- the user to \include his/her favourite 
> naming scheme at the beginning of the user's .ly file.
> 
> Greetings,
> Juergen
> 
> 
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007, Trevor Ba?~Ma wrote:
> 
> >On 1/27/07, Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Am 27. Januar 2007, 12:06 Uhr (-0600) schrieb Trevor Bača:
> >>>
> >>> Question: would it be possible to have access to *both* sets of
> >>> glyphs? It seems to me that I've seen both types of glyphs mixed
> >>> together in single scores; usually the existing quartertone glyphs
> >>> show exact quartertone alterations while the arrowed glyphs show
> >>> approximate alterations.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Well, my proposal meant to be completely backwards compatible. I
> >>thought about something similar to the "notehead-style" property like
> >>saying
> >>
> >>\override #'accidental-style = "arrowed"
> >>
> >>for getting the arrowed accidentals and
> >>
> >>\revert #'accidental-style
> >>
> >>for switching back.
> >
> >Ah, OK. I very much vote yes. I've wanted the arrowed glyphs for quite
> >some time and would like to see them as part of the standard
> >distribution.
> >
> >
> >

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Re: Lilypond-book can´t find my files

2007-01-28 Thread Claus Rogge
Claus Rogge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Whoops, stop - just found some information that I had forgotten ... I´m
onto it, please don´t bother to answer yet!

... and sorry ...

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Re: accidentals disappear

2007-01-28 Thread Cameron Horsburgh
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 06:43:59PM -0800, Calvin Mitcham wrote:
>  Mats Bengtsson wrote: 
> > Please always tell what LilyPond version you use when sending questions
> > to the mailing list.
> 
> well,yes, some info might help :)  i run lilypond 2.6.3 on a 32 bit studio64 
> install of linux with kernel 2.6.14. a newer version of lilypond would cause 
> me to venture outside the comfortable apt-get world into the scary config, 
> make, make install world. but if you folks are pretty sure that would help, 
> i'll risk it. below is the .ly file. if i un-comment the paper block, 
> everything is fine, but when i un-comment the size line, all the sharps 
> vanish from the pdf, although the natural signs still show up. thanks again 
> for the help!
> 

The third option is the best --- you can download the installer from
the LilyPond page which will install it on your system in a harmless
way, bypassing your package manager but without the trouble of
compiling it yourself.

Try it, you'll like it (and if you don't, you can get rid of the whole
thing with a simple uninstall-lilypond command!)

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pageBreak-layout again

2007-01-28 Thread Ole Schmidt

Dear list,

Yesterday I posted:

"Between every System I put a \break, between every Page a \pageBreak
The first page is fine, the second is spread on two pages , why??"

Now, just to see what happens, I remove all \breaks and \pageBreaks.  
The result is the other way around: on the first page are 5 vertical- 
well-spaced systems, on the second page 4 Systems are glued together  
on the first half of the page.


Please have mercy with an exited beginner who want to learn and give  
a help...


Thank you,

ole


---code--without--breaks--and- 
pageBreaks





\header { tagline = 1 title = "Ko Lho"   }

\version "2.11.12-1"


\paper { #(set-paper-size "a3") }











\layout{
  \context {
\type "Engraver_group"
\consists "Time_signature_engraver"
\consists "Axis_group_engraver"
\name "TimeSig"
\override TimeSignature #'font-size = #3
\override TimeSignature #'style = #'()

  }
  \context {
\Score \accepts TimeSig
  }

  \context { \Staff
\override TimeSignature #'transparent = ##t


  }
}









staffFlute = \new Staff  {
\override Score.MetronomeMark #'padding = #10.0
\tempo 4 = 72

\override Voice.TextScript #'padding = #3.0
  \override Voice.TrillSpanner #'edge-text = #'("" . "")
  #(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary)
\set Staff.instrumentName = "Flute "
\time 4/4
 \set Staff.extraNatural = ##f

\set Staff.midiInstrument= "flute"
\key c \major
\clef treble
\relative c'' { 
\partial2  e2 ~\pp\< | e1 ~ \p\! | e1\startTrillSpan^\markup  
{"(vibrato ampio)"} ~ |  e2\<\stopTrillSpan ~ e \!\mp\> | e8 ~ \pp\! 
[ r16 d16\ppp\startTrillSpan^] ~ d4\stopTrillSpan r16

[ bes\mf ~ bes-> r16] | r4 c4:32\f ~ c16 r16 |

 cih2--\p\< ~ c4 ~ c8\mf\!\> r8 | r4\! cis2.\ppp\< ~ | cis4\!\mp ~  
cis8. e16\p ~ \times 2/3 { e8 cis8:32 c8 } f2 ~ |


 \time 2/4 \times 2/3 { r8  r8 c8:32 ~ } \times 2/3 { c4:32\<  
\acciaccatura cis8 f16.--\!\mf c32 ~ } |\time 3/4 d2.--\mp ~ | d2 ~  
\times 2/3 { d8 \acciaccatura d8 cis8--\mf( d8\p) ~ } | d2 ~ d8.\<  
c16--(\!\f ~ |


 c8 e\< ~ e16) e-.(\mp\! e-. e-.\times 4/5 { e16-. e-. e-. e-.  
e-.) } |\time 2/4 f8:32--\mf f( ~ f16 f-. f-.\>) f16:32 ~ |\time 4/4  
f8.:32\! r16 r4 r4 f4(\ppp ~ | \time 3/4 f16 e-.\< e-.) e ~ e4 ~ e16  
dis e8\!\f ~ |


	   \times 2/3 { e8\mf f4 ~ } f16 feh8.:32 ~ feh4:32 |\time 5/8 e4 
\startTrillSpan^ ~ e4\stopTrillSpan( ~ \times 2/3 { e8 dis16) } | 
\time 2/4 e4 ~ e16 fis16:32 ~ fis 8:32( |\time 3/4 \times 2/3 { f8)  
r8 f8:32\mf ~ } f8:32\startTrillSpan^ [ \acciaccatura e8 f]\p ~ f8. 
\stopTrillSpan r16 |


	 \times 2/3 { \acciaccatura e8\pp f4( cis8--\mp ~ }  cis8. [ deh16--] 
\mf\< ~  deh4) ~ | \time 4/4 deh4\!\> r16 cis8.(\p\! ~ cis4 ~ cis16  
d8. |\time 3/4 \acciaccatura cis8 d4)\mf ~ d8. r16 d8.\p cis16--\< ~ | 
\time 2/4 cis8 ~ cis4.:32\f\! |


	 r32 as16.:64[\<( f16)\!\mf\> \acciaccatura b8 c16] \acciaccatura c  
f,16--[ f-.] r8 |

\time 4/4 d'2.\pp ~ d8[ r16 f,!16-.]\pp |
	\time 3/4 r4 r32 c'16.\glissando[\< fis,32\mp\! b16.] \acciaccatura  
fis!8 cis'16.--[ d32 cis16 \acciaccatura fis,!8 b32( g)] |


fis32--[( a) r16] r8  \times 4/5 { r32[ gis(\p a fis\< g }  \times  
4/5 { gis32\! a b)] r16 }   fis!16[\p r32 fis32( gis16--) fis-.] |
eis4--\mf \times 2/3 { r16 fis16[\p\< g } b8] ~ b16.[\mf\!  
\acciaccatura g8 fis32] gis32[\p( f c' b)] |

\time 5/8 fis16[ eis8.]\pp ~ eis16[\< fis32 b c8\!\f b32\p eis,16.] |

 \time 5/4 \times 2/3 { fis4--\f b8--\<( } \times 2/3 { c!8) g\!\mp 
( b) } eis,8[( ~ eis32 fis\p g b] c!8.[ \acciaccatura { b8[ g] } fis! 
16]\< ~ \times 2/3 { fis4\! g8 } |
d'2)\p\< ~ \times 2/3 { d8\!\mf r d ~ } \times 2/3 { d8 d4-- 
\startTrillSpan ~ } d8.[\stopTrillSpan\> ~ d16\!\p] ~ |


\break \time 4/4 d2 ~ d4\startTrillSpan\< ~ d4\!\mf\stopTrillSpan |  
r4 r16 cih8.:32\ppp ~ cih8.:32[ cis16->] ~ cis4 ~ | \time 3/4 cis8 
[ r16 dis16]( e!16-.)[ r16 r16 e16(] dis4) ~ |


 \time 2/4 dis8[ dis!--\mp\<]( e16\![ dis \acciaccatura cis8 c!32-> 
[ d! dis e-.]]) | \time 3/4 \times 2/3 { e4\p( b8) \< } e8:32[( c!->\! 
\f)] e16[( c!8.->)]\f\> | r8\!\p r16 cis16--(\f ~ cis8.[ d16\mf]) cis! 
32[[( e cis d] cis[ d]) f!16] ~ |


 f16[ e32( f] \times 4/5 { e f e f e } f32[[ e f e] dis32[\< e16.]])	 
~ e4 ~ | e8.[\!\ff d!16:32\mf] ~ d8.:32[ ~ d16:32] ~ d8 r | d4\p  
\times 2/3 { r8 d4\startTrillSpan\mp ~ } d8.[\stopTrillSpan d16](\mf  
| \time 2/4 es4 des8[ c!] ~ |


 c8[) r16 c]( ~ c8[ des]) | r16 d8.\ppp\< ~ d4\p\! ~ |\time 4/4 d4\<  
~ d\!\mf ~ d\> r16\!\ppp deh8. ~ |


\time 5/4


}
}


staffClarinet = \new Staff  {

 \override Voice.TextScript #'padding = #3.0
  \override Voice.TrillSpanner #'edge-text = #'("" . "")


#(set-accidental-style 'modern-cautionary)
\set Staff.instrumentName = "Clarinet in Bb "

 \set Staff.extraN

Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Joe Neeman

On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

This is another beginners question:

Between every System I put a \break, between every Page a \pageBreak
The first page is fine, the second is spread on two pages , why??


If you want to control all the page breaking manually, you should also
tell lilypond _not_ to break where you don't want it to break. For
example, you could say something like

breaks = {
\repeat unfold 10 {s1 \noPageBreak}
\pageBreak
\repeat unfold 13 {s1 \noPageBreak}
\pageBreak
\repeat unfold 5 {s1 \noPageBreak}

flute = \relative c {music...}
clarinet = \relative c {music...}

\score {
 <<
   \new Staff <<\flute \breaks>>
   \new Staff \clarinet
 >>
}

By the way, I recommend to put the "\new Staff" in the score block and
not in the definition of the variables. That way, you have more
flexibility for tweaks like this (or, for example, if you want to put
the flute and the clarinet in the same staff).


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Re: pageBreak-layout again

2007-01-28 Thread Joe Neeman

On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear list,

Yesterday I posted:

"Between every System I put a \break, between every Page a \pageBreak
The first page is fine, the second is spread on two pages , why??"

Now, just to see what happens, I remove all \breaks and \pageBreaks.
The result is the other way around: on the first page are 5 vertical-
well-spaced systems, on the second page 4 Systems are glued together
on the first half of the page.


Try adding "ragged-bottom-last = ##f" to your \paper block
(ragged-bottom-last is true by default because otherwise short
examples look very strange, but it should usually be turned off for
reasonably long pieces).

By the way, it is much easier for people to answer your questions if
you construct a short example that illustrates your problem instead of
copy&pasting a large file. For example, you can often illustrate page
and line breaking problems by using "repeat unfold" as in

\version "2.11.10"
% help: why does this take up 5 pages?
\relative c {
 \repeat unfold 50 {a b c d}
}


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Re: pageBreak-layout again

2007-01-28 Thread Ole Schmidt
I put "ragged-bottom-last = ##f" into both versions (whith \breaks  
\pageBreaks and without) it does not change anything...




Am 28.01.2007 um 12:58 schrieb Joe Neeman:


On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear list,

Yesterday I posted:

"Between every System I put a \break, between every Page a \pageBreak
The first page is fine, the second is spread on two pages , why??"

Now, just to see what happens, I remove all \breaks and \pageBreaks.
The result is the other way around: on the first page are 5 vertical-
well-spaced systems, on the second page 4 Systems are glued together
on the first half of the page.


Try adding "ragged-bottom-last = ##f" to your \paper block
(ragged-bottom-last is true by default because otherwise short
examples look very strange, but it should usually be turned off for
reasonably long pieces).

By the way, it is much easier for people to answer your questions if
you construct a short example that illustrates your problem instead of
copy&pasting a large file. For example, you can often illustrate page
and line breaking problems by using "repeat unfold" as in

\version "2.11.10"
% help: why does this take up 5 pages?
\relative c {
 \repeat unfold 50 {a b c d}
}




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Re: pageBreak-layout again

2007-01-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I've also experienced that \noPageBreak and \pageBreak just didn't work in 
2.10.x. However it was a very complicated score.

Bert


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Re: pageBreak-layout again

2007-01-28 Thread Ole Schmidt
the strange thing is that it worked for the first page perfect and  
than...



Am 28.01.2007 um 13:23 schrieb Bertalan Fodor:

I've also experienced that \noPageBreak and \pageBreak just didn't  
work in 2.10.x. However it was a very complicated score.


Bert




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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Ole Schmidt
the breaks are made where I set them, the first pageBreak too, the  
systems of the second page are spread over two pages. Strange to me  
is that only the first page behave as it should...


Am 28.01.2007 um 12:52 schrieb Joe Neeman:


On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

This is another beginners question:

Between every System I put a \break, between every Page a \pageBreak
The first page is fine, the second is spread on two pages , why??


If you want to control all the page breaking manually, you should also
tell lilypond _not_ to break where you don't want it to break. For
example, you could say something like

breaks = {
\repeat unfold 10 {s1 \noPageBreak}
\pageBreak
\repeat unfold 13 {s1 \noPageBreak}
\pageBreak
\repeat unfold 5 {s1 \noPageBreak}

flute = \relative c {music...}
clarinet = \relative c {music...}

\score {
 <<
   \new Staff <<\flute \breaks>>
   \new Staff \clarinet
 >>
}

By the way, I recommend to put the "\new Staff" in the score block and
not in the definition of the variables. That way, you have more
flexibility for tweaks like this (or, for example, if you want to put
the flute and the clarinet in the same staff).




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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Joe Neeman

On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

the breaks are made where I set them, the first pageBreak too, the
systems of the second page are spread over two pages. Strange to me
is that only the first page behave as it should...


You forced lilypond to put page breaks in certain places. You never
told it that it couldn't put them in other places. If you want it to
break _only_ where you tell it, you have to explicitly tell it not to
break anywhere else. This is what \noPageBreak is for.


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Re: Lilypond Tool

2007-01-28 Thread Father Gordon Gilbert

Hi folks,

I'm a BIG fan of Lilypond Tool now!!  I've just installed it in my jEdit on
my Windoze machine, and run a few files.  The Console which shows you what's
happening makes it more like my FreeBSD machine in visibility, and the PDF
viewer with click-to-find is super!  And the Midi launcher -- great!  And
looking through the menu items, I'm just beginning to scratch the surface of
the possibilities.

BUT ...

It seems to take an inordinate amount of time to process these files.  I'm
not working on huge files -- most are songs that fit on one page.  But they
take (according to the Console window) the best part of five minutes to
process.  Any ideas on how to streamline this?  I've tried un-checking the
"complex parser", but that doesn't help, and if I click "Restart Lilypond
Tool, it quits the process with "permission denied".  And sometime, for no
apparent reason, the convert-ly function comes up with "Bean-shell error".
Dunno why.

So any help in making my system as efficient as possible is appreciated.
Lily never took so long in the drat-&-drop method on Windoze, or on my
FreeBSD machine.  I'd like it to be faster than it is if possible.

Windows XP Pro, Lilypond 2.11.5, jEdit 4.3 pre-9, Lilypond Tool 2.10.3

Blessings,


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Re: pageBreak-layout again

2007-01-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor
I think it was the same for me. The score was full of graces with 16 
staves. If I removed 2 staves, the noPageBreak worked as well. I'm 
afraid I couldn't make a simple bug report, because I think its 
complexness was the very cause of the problem.


Bert

Ole Schmidt írta:
the strange thing is that it worked for the first page perfect and 
than...



Am 28.01.2007 um 13:23 schrieb Bertalan Fodor:

I've also experienced that \noPageBreak and \pageBreak just didn't 
work in 2.10.x. However it was a very complicated score.


Bert






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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Ole, have you tried \noPageBreak? I would not be surprised if it had no 
effect.


Bert

Joe Neeman írta:

On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

the breaks are made where I set them, the first pageBreak too, the
systems of the second page are spread over two pages. Strange to me
is that only the first page behave as it should...


You forced lilypond to put page breaks in certain places. You never
told it that it couldn't put them in other places. If you want it to
break _only_ where you tell it, you have to explicitly tell it not to
break anywhere else. This is what \noPageBreak is for.


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Re: Lilypond Tool

2007-01-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor


It seems to take an inordinate amount of time to process these files.  
I'm not working on huge files -- most are songs that fit on one page.  
But they take (according to the Console window) the best part of five 
minutes to process. 

Five minutes? Really? Could you send me a file with this processing time?

Bert


So any help in making my system as efficient as possible is 
appreciated.  Lily never took so long in the drat-&-drop method on 
Windoze, or on my FreeBSD machine.  I'd like it to be faster than it 
is if possible.


Windows XP Pro, Lilypond 2.11.5, jEdit 4.3 pre-9, Lilypond Tool 2.10.3

Blessings,


Father Gordon Gilbert


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Re: pageBreak-layout again

2007-01-28 Thread Joe Neeman

On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I put "ragged-bottom-last = ##f" into both versions (whith \breaks
\pageBreaks and without) it does not change anything...


Sorry, it should be ragged-last-bottom instead of ragged-bottom-last.


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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Ole Schmidt

\noPageBreak work!! Thanks Joe!

ole

Am 28.01.2007 um 14:31 schrieb Bertalan Fodor:

Ole, have you tried \noPageBreak? I would not be surprised if it  
had no effect.


Bert

Joe Neeman írta:

On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

the breaks are made where I set them, the first pageBreak too, the
systems of the second page are spread over two pages. Strange to me
is that only the first page behave as it should...


You forced lilypond to put page breaks in certain places. You never
told it that it couldn't put them in other places. If you want it to
break _only_ where you tell it, you have to explicitly tell it not to
break anywhere else. This is what \noPageBreak is for.


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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Really? Then I'll upgrade :-) Or really find a way to report if there is 
an error.


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Some horizontal spacing problems.

2007-01-28 Thread Charles Gentry
Hello,

Before I begin I'd just like to say how much I enjoy using Lilypond - there is
absolutely nothing like it.

I have to problems that I would desperately like some advice:

1. I'm writing some exercises consisting of three bars. The main part is in the
first two bars and the final bar is is just a single note ending. Something 
like:

\time 4/4 %etc.
c4 c4 c4 c4 | c4 c4 c4 c4 | c1 \bar "|." 

What I would like to do is alter the horizontal spacing so that the first two
bars take up the majority of the line while the last bar is very small and tight
so that the final c1 is really squashed between the bars.

2. I have a polyphonic phrase with triplets in the bottom voice and dotted 8th
and 16th notes in the upper voice. 

\time 4/4 %etc.
\relative c' {
<<{
  8. 16 8. 16
  8. 16 8. 16
}\\{
  \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
  \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
  \times 2/3 {
c,8 g' f
e8 g c,
b8 d c
b8 d g, 
  }
}>>
}
The problem here is that I'd like the 16th notes to lie directly above the the
last note in each triplet (since the dotted 8th and the 16th should be the same
time length as a triplet of 8ths). At the moment the upper voice is noticably
out of line to the right.

I've checked the documentation and other sources for advice but to no avail. If
you can provide any solution please write back.

Regards,

Charles 

PS Sorry for the length of this query!



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PNG size issue

2007-01-28 Thread lala lala
Hi all !I have a problem with a png file generated with lilypond. Here is my 
lily file :\version "2.10.6"#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)\header {
title = "toto"}\paper {  #(set-paper-size "a4")}melody = \relative c' {   \clef 
treble   \key c \major   \time 4/4   a4 b c d}\score {   \new Staff \melody   
\layout { }}}I run : lilypond --verbose --png -dresolution=72 --pdf test.lyAs 
paper-size is A4 and resolution is 72dpi the resulting png must be 595 x 842 px 
BUT it's 612 x 792 px (that is an US-letter with the same resolution ..)On a 
multipage sheet, I got several png with the good size.More weird : if I check 
lily output I see that lily call : gs  -dEPSCrop -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 
-dTextAlphaBits=4 -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=png16m -sOutputFile="test.png" -r72 
"test.ps" -c quitWhen I executed this line after running lilypond my PNG is 
overwritted by a PNG with the good size !Is it a bug ? Or do I miss something 
?PS : by the way, is there a way to specify that I want only black and white 
PNG ??
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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Joe Neeman

On 1/28/07, Bertalan Fodor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Really? Then I'll upgrade :-) Or really find a way to report if there is
an error.


If you are certain that you've found a bug but you can't narrow down
the example, just send it anyway. Although I don't particularly like
wading through large examples, it's better than not hearing about the
problem at all.


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Re: Some horizontal spacing problems.

2007-01-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Charles Gentry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hello,

Before I begin I'd just like to say how much I enjoy using Lilypond - 
there is

absolutely nothing like it.

I have to problems that I would desperately like some advice:

1. I'm writing some exercises consisting of three bars. The main part 
is in the
first two bars and the final bar is is just a single note ending. 
Something like:


\time 4/4 %etc.
c4 c4 c4 c4 | c4 c4 c4 c4 | c1 \bar "|."

What I would like to do is alter the horizontal spacing so that the first two
bars take up the majority of the line while the last bar is very 
small and tight

so that the final c1 is really squashed between the bars.


First of all, do you want the examples to be stretched over the full
line width? Otherwise you can use
\layout{
 ragged-right=##t }

Since the spacing is based on the duration of each note, you can get
what you want if you replace the c1 by c1*1/16 for example.


2. I have a polyphonic phrase with triplets in the bottom voice and 
dotted 8th

and 16th notes in the upper voice.

\time 4/4 %etc.
\relative c' {
<<{
 8. 16 8. 16
 8. 16 8. 16
}\\{
 \override TupletNumber #'transparent = ##t
 \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
 \times 2/3 {
   c,8 g' f
   e8 g c,
   b8 d c
   b8 d g,
 }
}>>
}
The problem here is that I'd like the 16th notes to lie directly 
above the the
last note in each triplet (since the dotted 8th and the 16th should 
be the same

time length as a triplet of 8ths). At the moment the upper voice is noticably
out of line to the right.

I've checked the documentation and other sources for advice but to no 
avail. If

you can provide any solution please write back.


The solution is the same as in your previous question, namely to scale
the durations. See section "Scaling durations".

 /Mats




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Re: problems with german umlauts

2007-01-28 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jonathan Henkelman 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

Mats Bengtsson  ee.kth.se> writes:



You are mistaken. ASCII only defines character codes up to 127, see for
example http://www.asciitable.com/.
What your table shows is probably Latin1 (ISO 8859-1).

   /Mats


Mats: FYI I am using an ascii table in my "little black pocket ref." which
does not differentiate between standard and extended table.  Also I use the
one provided in MS Word.  It allows you to pick between Unicode (various
subsets) ASCII hex and decimal, but it also does not differentiate between
extended and basic.

What I am hearing hear in the larger context is that the "basic" ASCII set is
only 127 characters while what I am used to using is actually one of a number
of extended character sets...


Exactly. What you call "basic ASCII" is the character set that everybody 
agrees about - for example 32=space, 65="A". The problem with "extended 
ASCII", ie between 128 and 255, is that *nobody* *agrees* what those 
characters mean. In other words, it's NOT A STANDARD.




UTF-8 is the only way to write both in danish AND french on the same text...


On my machine I can write a single ascii text document (using the full table)
that is in german, spanish, danish, norwegian, french, english.

What character set are you using? It's all very well saying you can 
*write* a document in those languages, but there is NO GUARANTEE that 
anybody else will be able to READ that document! (Not unless you use 
something like UTF-8, that is ...)


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Re: proposal: second style for quartertone accidentals

2007-01-28 Thread v!ctor [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I agree %100 with the addition of accidentals with arrows. However, I also
think that both, the standard 1/4 and 3/4 tone signs Lilypond already has
and the new ones should both be accessible, and, ideally, within the same
"notehead-style". Otherwise combining them in a single score would require
one to be changing styles inside the score, which would not be ideal in that
case.
Since we are into adding new accidental signs, I would also actually like
the inclusion of arrows (up and down) not only the stadard accidentals Orm
suggests, but also on the 1/4 and 3/4 sharp and flat signs lilypond already
has. This would allow for a finer pitch resolution.
Here's a png of what i'm thinking. Pay no attention to the style though;
this is secondary.


.. ideas?

Victor


On 1/27/07, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 1/27/07, Orm Finnendahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am 27. Januar 2007, 12:06 Uhr (-0600) schrieb Trevor Bača:
> >
> > Question: would it be possible to have access to *both* sets of
> > glyphs? It seems to me that I've seen both types of glyphs mixed
> > together in single scores; usually the existing quartertone glyphs
> > show exact quartertone alterations while the arrowed glyphs show
> > approximate alterations.
> >
>
> Well, my proposal meant to be completely backwards compatible. I
> thought about something similar to the "notehead-style" property like
> saying
>
> \override #'accidental-style = "arrowed"
>
> for getting the arrowed accidentals and
>
> \revert #'accidental-style
>
> for switching back.

Ah, OK. I very much vote yes. I've wanted the arrowed glyphs for quite
some time and would like to see them as part of the standard
distribution.


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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Trevor Bača

On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

\noPageBreak work!! Thanks Joe!

ole

Am 28.01.2007 um 14:31 schrieb Bertalan Fodor:

> Ole, have you tried \noPageBreak? I would not be surprised if it
> had no effect.
>
> Bert
>
> Joe Neeman írta:
>> On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> the breaks are made where I set them, the first pageBreak too, the
>>> systems of the second page are spread over two pages. Strange to me
>>> is that only the first page behave as it should...
>>
>> You forced lilypond to put page breaks in certain places. You never
>> told it that it couldn't put them in other places. If you want it to
>> break _only_ where you tell it, you have to explicitly tell it not to
>> break anywhere else. This is what \noPageBreak is for.


Would it be worth it to have a pair of settings -- probably something
like manual-page-breaks = ##t  and manual-line-breaks = ##t in the
layout block -- that told lily "do not ever create a page break except
where I say so explicitly with \pageBreak", and likewise for \break?

I kinda wonder how many people out there have a breaks-voice sitting
in the first staff of their score -- just like in Joe's example -- and
how much simpler those breaks-voices would be if they could consist
only of explicit \breaks and \pageBreaks ...


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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Joe Neeman

On 1/28/07, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> \noPageBreak work!! Thanks Joe!
>
> ole
>
> Am 28.01.2007 um 14:31 schrieb Bertalan Fodor:
>
> > Ole, have you tried \noPageBreak? I would not be surprised if it
> > had no effect.
> >
> > Bert
> >
> > Joe Neeman írta:
> >> On 1/28/07, Ole Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> the breaks are made where I set them, the first pageBreak too, the
> >>> systems of the second page are spread over two pages. Strange to me
> >>> is that only the first page behave as it should...
> >>
> >> You forced lilypond to put page breaks in certain places. You never
> >> told it that it couldn't put them in other places. If you want it to
> >> break _only_ where you tell it, you have to explicitly tell it not to
> >> break anywhere else. This is what \noPageBreak is for.

Would it be worth it to have a pair of settings -- probably something
like manual-page-breaks = ##t  and manual-line-breaks = ##t in the
layout block -- that told lily "do not ever create a page break except
where I say so explicitly with \pageBreak", and likewise for \break?

I kinda wonder how many people out there have a breaks-voice sitting
in the first staff of their score -- just like in Joe's example -- and
how much simpler those breaks-voices would be if they could consist
only of explicit \breaks and \pageBreaks ...


You can override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission =
##f (or line-break-permission for line breaks) in the layout block.
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lilypond and eps

2007-01-28 Thread confrey
I'm using lilypond on ubunt edgy and windows, I'm using OOoLilypond too; 
in linux, when I try to view eps files generated by lilypond-book, I 
can't see the staff and the stems only; in windows, if I set OOoLilypond 
to use eps instead of png, I can't view anything. I need some ideas, thanks


confrey

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Re: Some horizontal spacing problems.

2007-01-28 Thread Charles Gentry
Thanks Mats - that seems to be just the thing!

Cheers,

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Re: pageBreak?

2007-01-28 Thread Ole Schmidt

No, NonMusicalPaperColumn  gives an error warning...

ole

Am 28.01.2007 um 21:00 schrieb Joe Neeman:


You can override Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn #'page-break-permission =
##f (or line-break-permission for line breaks) in the layout block.


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Lead sheet examples?

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Kennedy
I'm not sure if what I'm seeing is a design flaw or user
ignorance. Probably the latter because I just started using LP
yesterday. But I haven't been able to find an example or explanation
in the user guide to help me with this.

Here's my question: In the presence of "\repeat volta", how do I get
the chord symbols placed properly on a lead sheet?

The problem I'm having is that the chord symbols are placed above the
lines that delineate the first and second endings. The chord symbols
should be below those lines.

Below is one example input file. The chords don't reflect the repeat
properly, but that's immaterial and relatively easy for me to fix. The
issue is the placement of the chord symbols above the lines that
delineate first and second endings.

As I said, this is probably user error. But lead sheets are a common
thing and it seems like a documentation bug that there is no example
and no discussion of how to do this.

If anyone can show me the right way, I'll be very grateful! Thanks in
advance!

-- Robert Kennedy


\header{
  title = "Bouncing with Bud (Bebop in Pastel)"
  composer = "Earl Rudolph \"Bud\" Powell"
}

harmonies = \chordmode {
  bes1:maj bes1:maj b1:maj b1:maj
  bes2:maj c:m7 d:m7 ees:dim7
}

melody = \relative {
  \key bes \major
  \repeat volta 2 { r8 f bes[ f'~] f4. f,8 bes f'8~ f2 r4 r8 f,8 b[ f'~] f4. 
f,8 }
  \alternative { { b8 f'~ f2 r4 } { b,8 f'~ f2 r8 ees8 } }
  { | \mark \markup {\box "A1"} d c bes a c bes a g f d ees ges~ ges4 f8 ees d 
c f b, r4. }
}

<<
  \new ChordNames {
\set chordChanges = ##t
\harmonies
  }
  \melody
>>

\version "2.10.14"



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Re: Lead sheet examples?

2007-01-28 Thread Bertalan Fodor
Try 

\new ChordNames \with {
voltaOnThisStaff = ##t
}

instead of "\new ChordNames"

I think you could also find it in the mailing list archives.

Bert


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Re: Which LilyPond for Mac G3 (Pismo) running OS 10.4.7

2007-01-28 Thread David Rogers
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:25:06 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

> Does Mac no longer use carriage for end of line since OSX.  That seem 
> to be the case from the command line.

You are exactly correct. The vast majority of new files you will create, with 
just about any OS X app, will have Unix-style line endings. Most of the good 
text editors have added a function to convert either way in case you run into 
trouble with something - but mainly you should stick to the Unix style.

David


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Re: Lead sheet examples?

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Kennedy
> Try 
> \new ChordNames \with {
> voltaOnThisStaff = ##t
> }
> instead of "\new ChordNames"

Thanks. That helps quite a bit, and I looked through the archives,
too. The problem now is that the volta lines are much too high,
especially the one for the first ending where there is no chord symbol
underneath it. But even the second one is too high.

How should I fix that? Below is my little example file as it stands
now.

Many thanks!

-- Robert


\header{
  title = "Bouncing with Bud (Bebop in Pastel)"
  composer = "Earl Rudolph \"Bud\" Powell"
  enteredby = "Robert Kennedy"
  style = "jazz"
}

harmonies = \chordmode {
  bes1:maj bes1:maj b1:maj b1:maj
  bes2:maj c:m7 d:m7 ees:dim7
}

melody = \relative {
  \key bes \major
  \repeat volta 2 { r8 f bes[ f'~] f4. f,8 bes f'8~ f2 r4 r8 f,8 b[ f'~] f4. 
f,8 }
  \alternative { { b8 f'~ f2 r4 } { b,8 f'~ f2 r8 ees8 } }
  { | \mark \markup {\box "A1"} d c bes a c bes a g f d ees ges~ ges4 f8 ees d 
c f b, r4. }
}

\layout {
  \context { \Score \override RemoveEmptyVerticalGroup #'remove-first = ##t }
}
<<
  \new ChordNames \with {
chordChanges = ##t
voltaOnThisStaff = ##t
} {
  \harmonies
}
  \new Staff \with {
voltaOnThisStaff = ##f
} {
  \melody
}
>>

\version "2.10.14"



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Re: Lead sheet examples?

2007-01-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson

For the record, the answer to your original question can also be found in
an example in the Tips and Tricks document (I'm sure it's included in the
LilyPond Snippet Repository as well).

To reduce the spacing, you can do
 \new ChordNames \with {
   chordChanges = ##t
   voltaOnThisStaff = ##t
   \override VoltaBracket #'minimum-space =#0
   } { ... }

The default value for minimum-space is 5, which makes sense for ordinary
staves, but clearly not for chords.

  /Mats


Robert Kennedy wrote:
Try 
\new ChordNames \with {

voltaOnThisStaff = ##t
}
instead of "\new ChordNames"



Thanks. That helps quite a bit, and I looked through the archives,
too. The problem now is that the volta lines are much too high,
especially the one for the first ending where there is no chord symbol
underneath it. But even the second one is too high.

How should I fix that? Below is my little example file as it stands
now.

Many thanks!

-- Robert


\header{
  title = "Bouncing with Bud (Bebop in Pastel)"
  composer = "Earl Rudolph \"Bud\" Powell"
  enteredby = "Robert Kennedy"
  style = "jazz"
}

harmonies = \chordmode {
  bes1:maj bes1:maj b1:maj b1:maj
  bes2:maj c:m7 d:m7 ees:dim7
}

melody = \relative {
  \key bes \major
  \repeat volta 2 { r8 f bes[ f'~] f4. f,8 bes f'8~ f2 r4 r8 f,8 b[ f'~] f4. 
f,8 }
  \alternative { { b8 f'~ f2 r4 } { b,8 f'~ f2 r8 ees8 } }
  { | \mark \markup {\box "A1"} d c bes a c bes a g f d ees ges~ ges4 f8 ees d 
c f b, r4. }
}

\layout {
  \context { \Score \override RemoveEmptyVerticalGroup #'remove-first = ##t }
}
<<
  \new ChordNames \with {
chordChanges = ##t
voltaOnThisStaff = ##t
} {
  \harmonies
}
  \new Staff \with {
voltaOnThisStaff = ##f
} {
  \melody
}
  


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Re: lilypond and eps

2007-01-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson
In Windows, I guess it's normal that you can't see any embedded EPS 
files on
screen, but they normally show up in the printed output if you have a 
postscript

printer.
In Linux, my best guess is that you should try a newer version of 
Ghostscript

(if you can choose between an AFPL and a GNU version, you should pick the
AFPL one, since they normally include more recent features).

  /Mats

confrey wrote:
I'm using lilypond on ubunt edgy and windows, I'm using OOoLilypond 
too; in linux, when I try to view eps files generated by 
lilypond-book, I can't see the staff and the stems only; in windows, 
if I set OOoLilypond to use eps instead of png, I can't view anything. 
I need some ideas, thanks


confrey



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Re: proposal: second style for quartertone accidentals

2007-01-28 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi,

we use additional simple up/down arrows placed left to normal
accidentals, giving a concise way to specify the complete eighth tone
scale. The glyphs are actually included in the font. This would make
even more changing of alteration syntax necessary, though.

I don't mind to be able to combine both ways of specifying microtones
within one score, but I wouldn't know, where to stop. Apart from
Victor's proposed signs there also exist blackened accidentals... The
last thing I had in mind was starting another "bikeshed", how Han-Wen
put it.

--
Orm

Am 28. Januar 2007, 14:20 Uhr (-0500) schrieb v!ctor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I agree %100 with the addition of accidentals with arrows. However, I also
> think that both, the standard 1/4 and 3/4 tone signs Lilypond already has
> and the new ones should both be accessible, and, ideally, within the same
> "notehead-style". Otherwise combining them in a single score would require
> one to be changing styles inside the score, which would not be ideal in that
> case.
> Since we are into adding new accidental signs, I would also actually like
> the inclusion of arrows (up and down) not only the stadard accidentals Orm
> suggests, but also on the 1/4 and 3/4 sharp and flat signs lilypond already
> has. This would allow for a finer pitch resolution.
> Here's a png of what i'm thinking. Pay no attention to the style though;
> this is secondary.


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Re: proposal: second style for quartertone accidentals

2007-01-28 Thread Mats Bengtsson

I don't really see the problem. What you already have proposed is to
use property settings to change between the different styles. To save
some typing, it will then be easy to add macros such as
\arrowQuarterToneAccidentals (please make up something shorter)
and \...whatever, to easily change between these different styles.
Of course, the properties to specify the note head style and the
accidental style will be separate, so there's no coupling between
them (unless you want to make macros that set both at the same time).

  /Mats

Orm Finnendahl wrote:

Hi,

we use additional simple up/down arrows placed left to normal
accidentals, giving a concise way to specify the complete eighth tone
scale. The glyphs are actually included in the font. This would make
even more changing of alteration syntax necessary, though.

I don't mind to be able to combine both ways of specifying microtones
within one score, but I wouldn't know, where to stop. Apart from
Victor's proposed signs there also exist blackened accidentals... The
last thing I had in mind was starting another "bikeshed", how Han-Wen
put it.

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Orm

Am 28. Januar 2007, 14:20 Uhr (-0500) schrieb v!ctor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

I agree %100 with the addition of accidentals with arrows. However, I also
think that both, the standard 1/4 and 3/4 tone signs Lilypond already has
and the new ones should both be accessible, and, ideally, within the same
"notehead-style". Otherwise combining them in a single score would require
one to be changing styles inside the score, which would not be ideal in that
case.
Since we are into adding new accidental signs, I would also actually like
the inclusion of arrows (up and down) not only the stadard accidentals Orm
suggests, but also on the 1/4 and 3/4 sharp and flat signs lilypond already
has. This would allow for a finer pitch resolution.
Here's a png of what i'm thinking. Pay no attention to the style though;
this is secondary.




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