wandering dynamics...

2006-10-21 Thread TromboneMan
Hello everyone!

I've recently started using lilypond, and an having a ball. It is a fabulous
program - I've only produced a few simple scores, but everyone who has seen them
has been very impressed - and I'm just a newbie to this.

However, I have now hit a problem which I can't solve. For some reason, some
(but not all) of the dynamic marks in my latest attempt are printing very very
low - way below the staff. And I don't know why... :-(

I can correct them using the 'override' function with DynamicText, but whilst
that puts them back in the right place, it seems that as far as the line spacing
is concerned lilypond still behaves as if they are in the wrong place - so the
spacing of the staves is very uneven.

I'm using version 2.8.5, and the .ly file I'm working on is here:
http://home.exetel.com.au/chillikebab/ibert3.ly

I've commented the file where the problems are; the 'overrides' are commented
out at the monent so the dynamics print out in the wrong place. If you put the
overrides back in you can see that the dynamics look OK, but the line spacing
doesn't change.

Any help for a lilypond newbie woudl be appreciated.

PS the piece is the viola part for Ibert's 'Saxophone Conertino', 2nd movement,
in case you were wondering...!



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Re: \transpose within a Scheme function?

2006-10-21 Thread Marcus Macauley

Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:


Marcus Macauley schreef:
I'm trying to figure out how to include a Lilypond \transpose function  
within a Scheme function. I'm not even sure if it makes sense to do


try (ly:music-transpose  )


Wow, there it is, right in front of my nose. I actually searched the  
"Scheme functions" page and was surprised not to find anything about  
transposition. I must have mistyped "transpose" when I searched for it;  
either that, or it was playing hide-and-seek with me -- and won ;)


Anyway, thanks for the tip.

Marcus


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Analysis brackets & linebreaks

2006-10-21 Thread Rutger

Dear all, 

I'm considering using Lilypond for my musicology thesis, but I am still
learning it and there's one thing I still can't work around, which is the
following: 

- I'd like to use analysis brackets to indicate the form of a melody, but
the horizontal brackets created by \startGroup\stopGroup split into two
seperate brackets over a line break, but what I would prefer is one
half-bracket with an open (i.e. horizontal) ending and one half with an open
beginning (¬) at the next line. How can I solve this? I have noticed that
the example with the split ties under the 'difficult tweaks' section in the
manual (9.3.6), together with the edge-height property may offer a solution,
but I haven't been able to get this to work. (Actually, I am still hoping
that there may be a more smooth and elegant solution to my seemingly simple
problem, too...)
- Besides, is there a easy way to place letters just above these brackets
(to indicate phrases like A, B, A', etc)? 

Is there anone who can help me with this?
Many thanks in advance, 

Rutger Helmers


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Re: Analysis brackets & linebreaks

2006-10-21 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Rutger schreef:
Dear all, 


I'm considering using Lilypond for my musicology thesis, but I am still
learning it and there's one thing I still can't work around, which is the
following: 


- I'd like to use analysis brackets to indicate the form of a melody, but
the horizontal brackets created by \startGroup\stopGroup split into two
seperate brackets over a line break, but what I would prefer is one
half-bracket with an open (i.e. horizontal) ending and one half with an open
beginning (¬) at the next line. How can I solve this? I have noticed that
the example with the split ties under the 'difficult tweaks' section in the
manual (9.3.6), together with the edge-height property may offer a solution,
but I haven't been able to get this to work. (Actually, I am still hoping
that there may be a more smooth and elegant solution to my seemingly simple
problem, too...)


This is fixed in 2.9.27.

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Polyphonic Tablature

2006-10-21 Thread Nigel Tao

Hiya.  Lilypond newbie here - so I'm probably mangling the terminology...

I am trying to re-use the same (polyphonic, separated by \\) notes for
both a regular staff and a tablature staff, but the tablature and \\
don't seem to be playing nice, so instead of typing out the notes just
once in a macro and invoking it twice, I have to re-jig the two voices
as a single-voiced chords in the tablature version, ending up with an
inelegant duplication of effort.

Picture of what I want to achieve:
http://nigel.tao.googlepages.com/polyphonic-tablature.png

What I'm doing:
--
{
\new StaffGroup <<
\new Staff {
\key d \major
\clef "G_8"
<<
{
fis'8 a d' fis'
e' fis ais 
} \\
{
d2 cis
}
>>
}

\new TabStaff {
\override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
\override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
8 a d' fis'
 fis ais 
}



}
--

What doesn't work
--
notes = <<
{
fis'8 a d' fis'
e' fis ais 
} \\
{
d2 cis
}
>>

{
\new StaffGroup <<
\new Staff {
\key d \major
\clef "G_8"
\notes
}

\new TabStaff {
\override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
\override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
\notes
}



}
--

Trying the second way, I get an empty TAB staff and doubled notes on
the regular staff.  If I take out the \overrides (even though I really
want to hide the stems and beams), then I get four staves, of which
the second one (TAB) is empty.

Cutting out the << \\ >> "works", in that I get the same notes exactly
once on each clef, but that isn't the music I want to write.  :-)

I was just wondering if I'm doing something wrong or whether what I
want to do is just not easy?  I am on version 2.6.3, if that matters,
since that's what my distro gave me...

thanks,
Nigel.


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Re: Polyphonic Tablature

2006-10-21 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

Yes this has been a problem I've had too, it would be nice if one can use the
same notes/voices on both the staff and tabstaff, without duplicating the
work.



Nigel Tao-2 wrote:
> 
> Hiya.  Lilypond newbie here - so I'm probably mangling the terminology...
> 
> I am trying to re-use the same (polyphonic, separated by \\) notes for
> both a regular staff and a tablature staff, but the tablature and \\
> don't seem to be playing nice, so instead of typing out the notes just
> once in a macro and invoking it twice, I have to re-jig the two voices
> as a single-voiced chords in the tablature version, ending up with an
> inelegant duplication of effort.
> 
> Picture of what I want to achieve:
> http://nigel.tao.googlepages.com/polyphonic-tablature.png
> 
> What I'm doing:
> --
> {
> \new StaffGroup <<
> \new Staff {
>   \key d \major
>   \clef "G_8"
>   <<
>   {
>   fis'8 a d' fis'
>   e' fis ais 
>   } \\
>   {
>   d2 cis
>   }
>   >>
> }
> 
> \new TabStaff {
>   \override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
>   \override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
>   8 a d' fis'
>fis ais 
> }
>>>
> }
> --
> 
> What doesn't work
> --
> notes = <<
>   {
>   fis'8 a d' fis'
>   e' fis ais 
>   } \\
>   {
>   d2 cis
>   }
>   >>
> 
> {
> \new StaffGroup <<
> \new Staff {
>   \key d \major
>   \clef "G_8"
>   \notes
> }
> 
> \new TabStaff {
>   \override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
>   \override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
>   \notes
> }
>>>
> }
> --
> 
> Trying the second way, I get an empty TAB staff and doubled notes on
> the regular staff.  If I take out the \overrides (even though I really
> want to hide the stems and beams), then I get four staves, of which
> the second one (TAB) is empty.
> 
> Cutting out the << \\ >> "works", in that I get the same notes exactly
> once on each clef, but that isn't the music I want to write.  :-)
> 
> I was just wondering if I'm doing something wrong or whether what I
> want to do is just not easy?  I am on version 2.6.3, if that matters,
> since that's what my distro gave me...
> 
> thanks,
> Nigel.
> 
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Hiding ledger Lines

2006-10-21 Thread Mehmet Okonsar
is there a way to hide ledger lines?
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Re: Hiding ledger Lines

2006-10-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Try \override LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t
(or possibly \override Staff.LedgerLineSpanner #'transparent = ##t
I haven't tried it myself).

  /Mats

Quoting Mehmet Okonsar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


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Re: Polyphonic Tablature

2006-10-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson

See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-10/msg00285.html

 /Mats

Quoting "Rick Hansen (aka RickH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Yes this has been a problem I've had too, it would be nice if one can use the
same notes/voices on both the staff and tabstaff, without duplicating the
work.



Nigel Tao-2 wrote:


Hiya.  Lilypond newbie here - so I'm probably mangling the terminology...

I am trying to re-use the same (polyphonic, separated by \\) notes for
both a regular staff and a tablature staff, but the tablature and \\
don't seem to be playing nice, so instead of typing out the notes just
once in a macro and invoking it twice, I have to re-jig the two voices
as a single-voiced chords in the tablature version, ending up with an
inelegant duplication of effort.

Picture of what I want to achieve:
http://nigel.tao.googlepages.com/polyphonic-tablature.png

What I'm doing:
--
{
\new StaffGroup <<
\new Staff {
\key d \major
\clef "G_8"
<<
{
fis'8 a d' fis'
e' fis ais 
} \\
{
d2 cis
}
>>
}

\new TabStaff {
\override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
\override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
8 a d' fis'
 fis ais 
}



}
--

What doesn't work
--
notes = <<
{
fis'8 a d' fis'
e' fis ais 
} \\
{
d2 cis
}
>>

{
\new StaffGroup <<
\new Staff {
\key d \major
\clef "G_8"
\notes
}

\new TabStaff {
\override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
\override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
\notes
}



}
--

Trying the second way, I get an empty TAB staff and doubled notes on
the regular staff.  If I take out the \overrides (even though I really
want to hide the stems and beams), then I get four staves, of which
the second one (TAB) is empty.

Cutting out the << \\ >> "works", in that I get the same notes exactly
once on each clef, but that isn't the music I want to write.  :-)

I was just wondering if I'm doing something wrong or whether what I
want to do is just not easy?  I am on version 2.6.3, if that matters,
since that's what my distro gave me...

thanks,
Nigel.


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Re: Polyphonic Tablature

2006-10-21 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)

Thanks Mats, but this example is still producing 2 separate tab staffs, not a
single polyphonic one.

Rick



Mats Bengtsson-4 wrote:
> 
> See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-10/msg00285.html
> 
>   /Mats
> 
> Quoting "Rick Hansen (aka RickH)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>>
>> Yes this has been a problem I've had too, it would be nice if one can use
>> the
>> same notes/voices on both the staff and tabstaff, without duplicating the
>> work.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nigel Tao-2 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hiya.  Lilypond newbie here - so I'm probably mangling the
>>> terminology...
>>>
>>> I am trying to re-use the same (polyphonic, separated by \\) notes for
>>> both a regular staff and a tablature staff, but the tablature and \\
>>> don't seem to be playing nice, so instead of typing out the notes just
>>> once in a macro and invoking it twice, I have to re-jig the two voices
>>> as a single-voiced chords in the tablature version, ending up with an
>>> inelegant duplication of effort.
>>>
>>> Picture of what I want to achieve:
>>> http://nigel.tao.googlepages.com/polyphonic-tablature.png
>>>
>>> What I'm doing:
>>> --
>>> {
>>> \new StaffGroup <<
>>> \new Staff {
>>> \key d \major
>>> \clef "G_8"
>>> <<
>>> {
>>> fis'8 a d' fis'
>>> e' fis ais 
>>> } \\
>>> {
>>> d2 cis
>>> }
>>> >>
>>> }
>>>
>>> \new TabStaff {
>>> \override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
>>> \override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
>>> 8 a d' fis'
>>>  fis ais 
>>> }
>
>>> }
>>> --
>>>
>>> What doesn't work
>>> --
>>> notes = <<
>>> {
>>> fis'8 a d' fis'
>>> e' fis ais 
>>> } \\
>>> {
>>> d2 cis
>>> }
>>> >>
>>>
>>> {
>>> \new StaffGroup <<
>>> \new Staff {
>>> \key d \major
>>> \clef "G_8"
>>> \notes
>>> }
>>>
>>> \new TabStaff {
>>> \override TabStaff.Stem #'transparent = ##t
>>> \override TabStaff.Beam #'transparent = ##t
>>> \notes
>>> }
>
>>> }
>>> --
>>>
>>> Trying the second way, I get an empty TAB staff and doubled notes on
>>> the regular staff.  If I take out the \overrides (even though I really
>>> want to hide the stems and beams), then I get four staves, of which
>>> the second one (TAB) is empty.
>>>
>>> Cutting out the << \\ >> "works", in that I get the same notes exactly
>>> once on each clef, but that isn't the music I want to write.  :-)
>>>
>>> I was just wondering if I'm doing something wrong or whether what I
>>> want to do is just not easy?  I am on version 2.6.3, if that matters,
>>> since that's what my distro gave me...
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Nigel.
>>>
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