Beaming question

2006-06-20 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
For a long "cadenza" passage I want to beam all notes together, but 
do not succeed: there is the a subdivision before last 16th note, and 
this note has a small beam in the wrong direction.


code:
--
\version "2.9.9"
#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
\score {
\relative c'' {
\key a \major
\cadenzaOn 
a64[ gis b32 a gis fis e! dis! cis b ais! b bis cis16 b a gis b a8 
fis gis]
\cadenzaOff
\bar "|"
\break
}
}   
--

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Export from Lilypond

2006-06-20 Thread Tomasz Bojczuk
How other score formats i can create from my lily scores. It should be 
openable in other score editors (finale or capella). 
It is possible ? I can't see it in docs.

Regards
Tomasz


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Re: music definition change in 2.9.9 or thereabouts?

2006-06-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Erik Sandberg schreef:


I'm not quite sure what the proper solution is. The attached patch solves the 
problem by renaming EVENT_IDENTIFIER to ARTICULATION_IDENTIFIER. The solution 
is easy and it works AFAICT, but it relies on music-classes, whose fate is 
uncertain. I did consider the following solutions as well:
1. Extend identifier-smob with type information (typically corresponding to 
the return value of try_special_idetifiers). I think this will only move the 
problem, because expressions like foo = #... must still be assigned a type 
correctly.
2. unify MUSIC_IDENTIFIER with EVENT_IDENTIFIER. This has one problem: someone 
will try 
foo = -.

{ c2\foo d2 }
which (AFAICT) will put the dot above the d2
3. Whenever a variable is assigned music, wrap it in a dummy sequential_music. 
Unclean.


Isn't it much easier to remove event from 'types for KeyChangeEvent (and 
rename to KeyChange ?). KeyChange remains an odd event; it should really 
be a property set for keySignature.


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Re: Pronunciation of the author's names

2006-06-20 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys

Shamus schreef:

Meeting Han-Wen last time I asked him how the name `Nieuwenhuizen'
actually does sound.  To make it short: I'll stay with `Jan' and
`Han-Wen'.


I'll take a stab at it, though I'm no expert at this kind of thing (the
words nine, when, and zen are the American English pronunciations): :-)

Nienhuys --> nine - hyoos
Nieuwenhuizen --> nee - oo - when - hoo - zen

Note that there are no accent marks given; my best guess is that they
would fall on the second to last syllable in each case. This is also
most likely the wrong pronunciation in any case.

So how did I do? Did I get anywhere close? :-)


close but not quite:

  nienhuys = 'neen huh-iss
  nieuwenhuizen = 'nee wunn huh-izz zunn

(where huh-i is a monosyllabic dipthong, so slide from uh to ih smoothly.)

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Re: music definition change in 2.9.9 or thereabouts?

2006-06-20 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 12:59, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> Erik Sandberg schreef:
> > I'm not quite sure what the proper solution is. The attached patch solves
> > the problem by renaming EVENT_IDENTIFIER to ARTICULATION_IDENTIFIER. The
> > solution is easy and it works AFAICT, but it relies on music-classes,
> > whose fate is uncertain. I did consider the following solutions as well:
> > 1. Extend identifier-smob with type information (typically corresponding
> > to the return value of try_special_idetifiers). I think this will only
> > move the problem, because expressions like foo = #... must still be
> > assigned a type correctly.
> > 2. unify MUSIC_IDENTIFIER with EVENT_IDENTIFIER. This has one problem:
> > someone will try
> > foo = -.
> > { c2\foo d2 }
> > which (AFAICT) will put the dot above the d2
> > 3. Whenever a variable is assigned music, wrap it in a dummy
> > sequential_music. Unclean.
>
> Isn't it much easier to remove event from 'types for KeyChangeEvent (and
> rename to KeyChange ?). KeyChange remains an odd event; it should really
> be a property set for keySignature.

No. The underlying problem is that we now allow events that aren't wrapped in 
event-chords. So the following:

foo = c4

could make foo contain a NoteEvent directly. (I think it currently wraps the 
note in an EventChord, but I plan to change that). The problem is that 
variables that contain events directly, can currently only be used as 
articulations.

-- 
Erik


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Re: lilypond-book questions

2006-06-20 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
At Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:21:07 -0700,
Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How can I superscript text, like footnotemarkers, in lyrics mode?
> > Footnotemarkers are part of Unicode, but they should be superscripted
> > to improve the output.  Alternatively, I guess one can use the
> > superscripted numbers in Unicode, but that is not the same, and is not
> > generic either.  This illustrates the gap that has opened without TeX
> > backend.
> 
> There are \super and IIRC \sub commands in \markup{} mode now.  See
> "Overview of text markup commands".

Do you mean that \markup is useful in lyrics mode?  I am under the
impression it's for in-staff annotations.

Thanks,
Marcus



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shape notes

2006-06-20 Thread Monk Panteleimon
Dear Lilypond users,

Somehow the SacredHarpHeads have gotten very small in 2.8. The regular
notehead (the one called #f in property-init.ly) is normally sized, of
course, so one can't simply globally adjust notehead size or one ends up
with big fat "sol" noteheads. Is there a way to get the shaped heads to
normal size while leaving the standard #f head as it is?

BTW, the sequence of shapes for the Sacred Harp four-shape system is still
wrong in property-init.ly. In property-init.ly it goes : (#f #f mi #f fa la
#f)
But it *should* go (fa #f la fa #f la mi). That's the Sacred Harp system.
What lilypond has goes "sol sol mi sol fa la sol." Very funny scale, that.

Muchas Gracias.
Fr. P



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DYI \chordcombine

2006-06-20 Thread Simon Dahlbacka
I've been wanting something like \chordcombine, i.e. combine multiple voices into chords if they occur at the same time and same duration (possible edge cases not taken into account right now)How hard would it be to put together something like that myself, (a person knowing close to nothing about scheme, but programmer by profession).
That is, is it feasible, or should I just forget it right away?regards,Simon
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Re: shape notes

2006-06-20 Thread Daniel Johnson

Monk Panteleimon wrote:

Dear Lilypond users,

Somehow the SacredHarpHeads have gotten very small in 2.8. The regular
notehead (the one called #f in property-init.ly) is normally sized, of
course, so one can't simply globally adjust notehead size or one ends up
with big fat "sol" noteheads. Is there a way to get the shaped heads to
normal size while leaving the standard #f head as it is?

BTW, the sequence of shapes for the Sacred Harp four-shape system is still
wrong in property-init.ly. In property-init.ly it goes : (#f #f mi #f fa la
#f)
But it *should* go (fa #f la fa #f la mi). That's the Sacred Harp system.
What lilypond has goes "sol sol mi sol fa la sol." Very funny scale, that.

Muchas Gracias.
Fr. P
  
I compile Lilypond instead of using GUB, and I apply the attached patch 
to make shape-notes wider.  They are a bit narrower than 2.7, but 
considerably wider than 2.8.  It would be nice if the width of the 
shaped heads could be tuned within a .ly file, but right now I don't 
have any disposable cash to make that happen.


Both 4-shape and 8-shape scales have noteheads exactly as wide as the 
round noteheads in all published sources I can find.  I can send scans 
if you like.  An online example can be found here:

http://www.ccel.org/s/southern_harmony/sharm/sharm/hymn/t=New+Britain.html

--d
diff -Naur lilypond-2.9.9/mf/feta-bolletjes.mf 
lilypond-2.9.9/mf/feta-bolletjes.mf
--- lilypond-2.9.9/mf/feta-bolletjes.mf 2006-05-17 10:36:37.0 -0700
+++ lilypond-2.9.9/mf/feta-bolletjes.mf 2006-05-17 10:38:04.0 -0700
@@ -910,9 +910,9 @@
 save solfa_base_notewidth;
 solfa_base_notewidth# := black_notehead_width#;
 
-solfa_whole_width := whole_notehead_width# / black_notehead_width#;
-solfa_half_width := half_notehead_width# / black_notehead_width#;
-solfa_quarter_width := 1.0;
+solfa_whole_width := 1.7;
+solfa_half_width := 1.45;
+solfa_quarter_width := 1.55;
 
 def draw_do_head (expr width_factor, dir) =
save p_in, p_out;
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Re: shape notes

2006-06-20 Thread Eduardo Vieira
Great! This topic was brought up right in time. I was about to post one 
similar. In the past I had sent the attachment (shapednotesnew.pdf) to 
Han-Wen, and I would like to request some changes to the shaped notes 
design: 
-> The half-notes (minims) in many shaped notes songbooks have one or more 
sides that are thicker in order to match more with the style of the normal 
half note. 
-> I'd like to see the whole note (semibreve) the same size as the half 
note, like a stemless half note. This style is common in many songbooks, 
even in Southern Harmony. The normal semibreve in feta font has sizes that 
are too thick to be matched with the other shapes. So my suggestion would be 
to make it just like the normal half-note. This change should only happen, 
of course, when the score is in shaped notes, otherwise the semibreve should 
have the same (beautiful) design as usual. 

I'd like to sponsor these changes, if I can afford them, and if nobody is 
against it. 
Here's a link to an old shaped-note songbook page. Notice that the size of 
the semibreves (whole-notes) are just the same as the minims (half-note): 
http://digital.lib.msu.edu/collections/index.cfm?action=view&TitleID=607&Format=jpg&PageNum=45
 

And here is another link about shaped-notes that offer a True Type font with 
shaped notes. The design of the half notes are like the one I'm proposing: 
http://www.paperlesshymnal.com/shapnote/shaped.htm 


Regards, 

Eduardo 



- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: "Monk Panteleimon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Cc:  
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 4:17 PM 
Subject: Re: shape notes 


> Monk Panteleimon wrote: 
>> Dear Lilypond users, 
>> 
>> Somehow the SacredHarpHeads have gotten very small in 2.8. The regular 
>> notehead (the one called #f in property-init.ly) is normally sized, of 
>> course, so one can't simply globally adjust notehead size or one ends up 
>> with big fat "sol" noteheads. Is there a way to get the shaped heads to 
>> normal size while leaving the standard #f head as it is? 
>> 
>> BTW, the sequence of shapes for the Sacred Harp four-shape system is 
still 
>> wrong in property-init.ly. In property-init.ly it goes : (#f #f mi #f fa 
la 
>> #f) 
>> But it *should* go (fa #f la fa #f la mi). That's the Sacred Harp system. 
>> What lilypond has goes "sol sol mi sol fa la sol." Very funny scale, 
that. 
>> 
>> Muchas Gracias. 
>> Fr. P 
>> 
> I compile Lilypond instead of using GUB, and I apply the attached patch 
> to make shape-notes wider.  They are a bit narrower than 2.7, but 
> considerably wider than 2.8.  It would be nice if the width of the 
> shaped heads could be tuned within a .ly file, but right now I don't 
> have any disposable cash to make that happen. 
> 
> Both 4-shape and 8-shape scales have noteheads exactly as wide as the 
> round noteheads in all published sources I can find.  I can send scans 
> if you like.  An online example can be found here: 
> http://www.ccel.org/s/southern_harmony/sharm/sharm/hymn/t=New+Britain.html 
> 
> --d 
> 




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Re: DYI \chordcombine

2006-06-20 Thread Shamus
Simon Dahlbacka wrote:
> How hard would it be to put together something like that myself, (a person
> knowing close to nothing about scheme, but programmer by profession).
> That is, is it feasible, or should I just forget it right away?

It depends. If you can grok the functional programming paradigm of LISP
and its variants (of which Scheme is one), then you shouldn't have too
much difficulty figuring out what you need to do. :-)

-- Shamus



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