First page separate

[matevz . jekovec]

Hello all.

I would like to typeset a score with the first, introduction page
which consists of title, author, the whole lyrics, English and some
other translation of it and some other stuff. Then on the second page,
I'd like the score itself to begin. Is there a common practice how
this is done with Lily? I'd like to publish the score to Mutopia
project then, so would rather not use lily-book and other more
advanced tools for page formatting... or should I?


Regards.
- Matevž



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Re: lilypond-book/(La)TeX knowledge required

[Jean-Charles]

Laura Conrad (LC) a écrit :

"RvS" == Ruud van Silfhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RvS> I'm (again) working on a version of a hymne book I have been working on 
RvS> before. I is written lilypond and LaTeX.
RvS> Before I have worked on a version for the people in church, now I have 
RvS> to make a special version for the church choir.
RvS> I have a TeX variable containing the number of the hymne ( \thehymneno 
RvS> ). What I want is that at the top of each page, except for the first page,
RvS> the hymne number appears followed by the pagenumber (so, 
RvS> \thehymneno--\thepage).
RvS> I couldn't get this to work properly and I tried a lot. Is this 
RvS> something that is influenced by lilypond-book somehow?

RvS> So, I could do with some help.

RvS> Any suggestions?


LC> What you really want to do is read the documentation for the latex
LC> "memoir" class.  If you look at most of my .lytex files,
LC> e.g. drinking.lytex in
LC> , you'll
LC> see how I define a pagestyle for songs and set the marks.  You can use
LC> \thehymneno in your \makeevenhead command.

Wishing to use and build correctly a lilypond-book, I wanted to pick it up, but 
dead link (ERR 404) and no .lytex in the directory.



Regards,

Jean-Charles Malahieude



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Ties in 2.7

[Thomas Scharkowski]

Hello list,

the following example results in a too narrow, too small tie.
What would be the best/easiest way to change this?
I have attached the pdf for 2.7.10 and 2.4.6 (which is better imo).

Thank you,
Thomas

LilyPond 2.7.10 Windows native and 2.4.6 cygwin

--

\version "2.7.10"
#(set-global-staff-size 23)
#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)

Treble = \relative c' \context Voice = "Treble" {
\key a\major
\time 5/2
\clef "G_8"
\voiceOne
e'8 cis a e ~ e4 e e e e cis8 e ~ e fis e4 |
e'8 cis a e ~ e4 e e e e cis8 e ~ e fis e4 |
}

Bass =  \relative c \context Voice = "Bass" {
\voiceTwo
a2 gis g fis gis |
a2 gis g fis gis |
}

staffClassicalGuitar = \new Staff  {
<<
\Treble
\\
\Bass
>>
}


\score {
<<
\staffClassicalGuitar
>>
\layout {}
}
\paper {linewidth= 18 \cm}

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output vector graphics

[Mehmet Okonsar]

I don't know if it is a viable idea, or if it already exists..
It would be nice if Lily can output some vectorial image format (what format
is widely recognized?) where many (some or all) notational elements were
available to a vector image drawing program (i.e. Corel Draw) where one can
turn the beautiful Lily output into some ugly and meaningless pseudo-musical
score by dragging, resizing the elements and adding elements musical or
not.. all done visually.

"Ugly and meaningless" "pseudo-musical-scores" are (or more exactly were)
fashionable for some composers, how far Lily can cope with that..

Maybe what I refer to is simply called *.ps (postscript) but I was unable to
open the Lily ps files in Corel, similarly I wasn't able to open Lily made
pdf's neither.. (in CorelDraw v11)

Best Regards,
Mehmet Okonsar, pianist-composer
www.okonsar.com



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Re: lilypond-book/(La)TeX knowledge required

[Laura Conrad]

> "J-C" == Jean-Charles  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

LC> , you'll
LC> see how I define a pagestyle for songs and set the marks.  You can use
LC> \thehymneno in your \makeevenhead command.

J-C> Wishing to use and build correctly a lilypond-book, I wanted
J-C> to pick it up, but dead link (ERR 404) and no .lytex in the
J-C> directory.

Sorry, I thought I'd uploaded the source.  Try


If you don't need to answer the header question asked by the original
poster, any of the allparts.zip files on my site,
e.g.  might
be a better introduction to a simple use of lilypond-book.

-- 
Laura (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] , http://www.laymusic.org/ )
(617) 661-8097  fax: (501) 641-5011
233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139



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FW: How to override bar line?

[Fairchild]

Title: Message



Graham suggested minimalizing 
and forwarding to the bug list.  Here 'tis.
 
I'd like a double bar at 
the end of the first line and a beginning repeat on the second.  As the 
snippet shows, I can get one or the other, but not both.
 

%%
\version "2.4.6"\layout{ indent = 0 linewidth = 2.0\in 
}\relative c'' {g1 a \bar "|." \break\repeat volta 2 {  
\bar "|:"  b c }\breaka g \bar "|." \break\repeat volta 2 { 
f e }}
%%

-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
FairchildSent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 5:08 PMTo: 
lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject: How to override bar 
line? 
 Maybe this 
snippet/example would be worthy of enshrinement somewhere in the docs, if only 
there is a way to get a thin-thick bar line under the fermata at the end of the 
first line. Suggestions?

  
- Bruce

%%

  \version "2.4.6"  \layout{ indent = 0 
linewidth = 3.5\in }  \relative c'' {c1 \repeat volta 
2 {\bar "||" \mark \markup { \musicglyph #"scripts-segno" }a2 ( f~ 
} \alternative {{ f ) c \bar"||" }{\hideNotes \grace{ f4 ( f4~ 
} \unHideNotes f2 ) \bar "|." }}\override Score.RehearsalMark 
   #'break-visibility = #begin-of-line-invisible\mark \markup 
{ \musicglyph #"scripts-ufermata" }\break \repeat volta 2 
{\bar"|:" b2 ( d~ } \alternative {{ d ) c 
}{\hideNotes \grace{ \slurUp d4 ( \stemDown d d~ c 
c   \slurNeutral \stemNeutral } \unHideNotes d2 
) g,2 ^\markup {\huge \italic \halign #0 "D.S. al Fine"} \bar"||" 
}}  }
%%
 
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RE: Ties in 2.7

[Fairchild]

Thomas -

Take a look at the 'tricks' used in the longer snippet in my posting a few
minutes ago: "FW: How to override bar line?"

  - Bruce

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thomas Scharkowski
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:46 AM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Ties in 2.7


Hello list,

the following example results in a too narrow, too small tie. What would be
the best/easiest way to change this? I have attached the pdf for 2.7.10 and
2.4.6 (which is better imo).

Thank you,
Thomas

LilyPond 2.7.10 Windows native and 2.4.6 cygwin

--

\version "2.7.10"
#(set-global-staff-size 23)
#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)

Treble = \relative c' \context Voice = "Treble" {
\key a\major
\time 5/2
\clef "G_8"
\voiceOne
e'8 cis a e ~ e4 e e e e cis8 e ~ e fis e4 |
e'8 cis a e ~ e4 e e e e cis8 e ~ e fis e4 |
}

Bass =  \relative c \context Voice = "Bass" {
\voiceTwo
a2 gis g fis gis |
a2 gis g fis gis |
}

staffClassicalGuitar = \new Staff  {
<<
\Treble
\\
\Bass
>>
}


\score {
<<
\staffClassicalGuitar
>>  
\layout {}
}
\paper {linewidth= 18 \cm}

Anhänge:
  F:\lilypond\gitarre\Scharkowski\27\tie27.pdf
  F:\lilypond\gitarre\Scharkowski\tie24.pdf




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Re: First page separate

[Nicolas Sceaux]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> Hello all.
>
> I would like to typeset a score with the first, introduction page
> which consists of title, author, the whole lyrics, English and some
> other translation of it and some other stuff. Then on the second page,
> I'd like the score itself to begin. Is there a common practice how
> this is done with Lily? I'd like to publish the score to Mutopia
> project then, so would rather not use lily-book and other more
> advanced tools for page formatting... or should I?

Read the following section of the manual:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.7/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Creating-titles.html

and more specifically the breakbefore keyword. The text you want to put
on the first page can be entered with markups at top level. Or,
alternatively, you can define a title page: see bookTitleMarkup.

If you search the list archives, you'll find examples.

Unless you have big amounts of text, you should not bother using
lily-book. And even... I'm currently typesetting Comédies Ballets by
Lully and Molière and co, with verses and music, using LilyPond
only. This is manageable.

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Re: output vector graphics

[andrea valle]

Hi
I would think it's the idea of having svg vectorial, xml-based, format 
as a lily output.

I don't know how it actually works.

-a-


On 25 Sep 2005, at 16:51, Mehmet Okonsar wrote:


I don't know if it is a viable idea, or if it already exists..
It would be nice if Lily can output some vectorial image format (what 
format
is widely recognized?) where many (some or all) notational elements 
were
available to a vector image drawing program (i.e. Corel Draw) where 
one can
turn the beautiful Lily output into some ugly and meaningless 
pseudo-musical

score by dragging, resizing the elements and adding elements musical or
not.. all done visually.

"Ugly and meaningless" "pseudo-musical-scores" are (or more exactly 
were)

fashionable for some composers, how far Lily can cope with that..

Maybe what I refer to is simply called *.ps (postscript) but I was 
unable to
open the Lily ps files in Corel, similarly I wasn't able to open Lily 
made

pdf's neither.. (in CorelDraw v11)

Best Regards,
Mehmet Okonsar, pianist-composer
www.okonsar.com



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Laboratorio multimediale "G. Quazza"
Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione
Università degli Studi di Torino
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RE: Ties in 2.7

[Thomas Scharkowski]

Thank you Bruce,

I thought LilyPond 2.7.10 should be able to produce readable simple
ties automatically, as in previous versions. The example I sent is
just as bad as early Finale (3.0) output!

Thomas

> Thomas -
>
> Take a look at the 'tricks' used in the longer snippet in my posting a
> few minutes ago: "FW: How to override bar line?"
>
>   - Bruce
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Thomas Scharkowski Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:46 AM To:
> lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Ties in 2.7
>
>
> Hello list,
>
> the following example results in a too narrow, too small tie. What
> would be the best/easiest way to change this? I have attached the pdf
> for 2.7.10 and 2.4.6 (which is better imo).
>
> Thank you,
> Thomas
>
> LilyPond 2.7.10 Windows native and 2.4.6 cygwin
>
> --
>
> \version "2.7.10"
> #(set-global-staff-size 23)
> #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
>
> Treble = \relative c' \context Voice = "Treble" {
>   \key a\major
>   \time 5/2
>   \clef "G_8"
>   \voiceOne
>   e'8 cis a e ~ e4 e e e e cis8 e ~ e fis e4 |
>   e'8 cis a e ~ e4 e e e e cis8 e ~ e fis e4 |
>   }
>
> Bass =\relative c \context Voice = "Bass" {
>   \voiceTwo
>   a2 gis g fis gis |
>   a2 gis g fis gis |
>   }
>
> staffClassicalGuitar = \new Staff  {
>  <<
>  \Treble
>  \\
>  \Bass
>  >>
>  }
>
>
> \score {
>  <<
>  \staffClassicalGuitar
>  >>
>  \layout {}
> }
> \paper {linewidth= 18 \cm}
>
> Anhänge:
>   F:\lilypond\gitarre\Scharkowski\27\tie27.pdf
>   F:\lilypond\gitarre\Scharkowski\tie24.pdf
>
>




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How to make beams non-slanted

[Sven Axelsson]

I am creating a context for pipe band snare drum that builds on
RhythmicStaff, but allows for two pitches to indicate left or
right hand. This uses note heads on either side of the single
staff line. I think that it would work better if I could get all
beams aligned and non-slanted, i.e. {left8[ right8]} should produce 
a horizontal, unslanted beam.

I first thought that this could be done by tweaking the Stem
properties, e.g. beamed-lengths, beamed-minimum-free-lengths and
so on. But perhaps it can't be done this way. Can anyone give me
some tips on how this could be done?

-- 
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transcription and copyright

[John Lapeyre]

This question is perhaps tangentially related to the list.
I am transcribing music from a recording into lilypond. I
wonder what possible legal implications of posting my work
on the net might be. Tabs for guitar of contemporary major
pop stars are common all over the web, some on long
established web sites, which leads me to believe no one with
means is objecting to it. However, I wonder if a nice
looking score produced by lilypond would cause some
manager/publisher/recording company to object. I am doing
the transcription strictly as a study and have zero interest
in making money from it.

I have searched some on the web for answers, but got no
clear answer. I searched this list for several key words,
but didn't find anything relevant. It seems that the
recording and sheet music sides of an artist's work are
handled be different companies and different rules.  Does
anyone have any experience with this ?

I have transcribed the guitar and bass parts to "La Vida Es
Un Sueño" from the recording by Marc Ribot on the album
"Marc Ribot Y Los Cubanos Postizos".  The lyric and music to
the piece were written (probably in the 40's or 50's) by Arsenio
Rodriguez. He was Cuban, but moved to the U.S. and he may
have arrived there by the time the piece was recorded. A quick
web search shows that the piece appears in at least a few
song books of popular latin american music. I have ordered
an original recording by Rodriguez' band, but it has not
arrived, so I don't know to what extent the Ribot version
deviates from the original.  There is almost certianly no
sheet music based on the Ribot version.

I phoned Ribot's managment and he said that he thought that
releasing written music for study purposes would not cause a
problem. I don't know what Mr. Ribot's opinion
is. Mr. Rodriguez died thirty years ago.

Thanks,
John





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Repeat percents and numbering ?

[Wim van Dommelen]

Hi,

Did anyone create a way to get numbers on top of repeating measures  
when printed with percent symbols?


Like:

 |2   |3|4   |5|6   |7
|  etc.

 c c c c |   %   |   %   |   %   |   %   |   %   |   %   |

Thanks in advance,
Wim.




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Re: transcription and copyright

[Erik Sandberg]

On Saturday 24 September 2005 22.10, John Lapeyre wrote:
> This question is perhaps tangentially related to the list.
> I am transcribing music from a recording into lilypond. I
> wonder what possible legal implications of posting my work
> on the net might be. Tabs for guitar of contemporary major
> pop stars are common all over the web, some on long
> established web sites, which leads me to believe no one with
> means is objecting to it. However, I wonder if a nice
> looking score produced by lilypond would cause some
> manager/publisher/recording company to object. I am doing
> the transcription strictly as a study and have zero interest
> in making money from it.

This kind of discussion is more relevant for the Mutopia mailing list; you can 
find it from mutopiaproject.org, I think you can also browse archives. Look 
for messages from Mark Van den Borre.

Basically, the law in most countries say that a work is copyrighted by its 
original author until 70 years after the author's death. This is also true 
for 'derivative works', such as arrangements or transcriptions. So those 
established web sites are probably illegal, if they haven't gained explicit 
permission from the copyright holders.

So, I think the best thing for you would be to attempt to get a permission to 
publish the works.

-- 
Erik


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