Re: Ties in second endings
> Ties are not normally continued into second endings, but a standard > trick is to add a tie from an invisible note. One way is to make > the invisible note a grace note. In that way, it doesn't destroy > the rhythm. Uh, oh, ugly (the situation, not the idea or your code). Han-Wen, handling such situations should be a standard feature of the ties module... Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ties in second endings
Fairchild wrote:
> Graham -
>
> Here's a trim-down of the thread, for sticking in the manual, in the section
> on ties, or repeats, or both. Edit to suit.
>
> There ought to be a better way that makes the tie more pronounced, but a
> simple way eludes me.
>
> - Bruce
>
>
>
>
> Ties are not normally continued into second endings, but a standard trick is
> to add a tie from an invisible note. One way is to make the invisible note
> a grace note. In that way, it doesn't destroy the rhythm.
>
>
> \version "2.4.6"
> \layout{ raggedright = ##t }
> \score{
> \relative c' {
> \repeat volta 2 { f g a2 ~ }
> \alternative {
> { a4 g2 f4 }
> { \grace{ \hideNotes a4~ } \unHideNotes a g2. }
> }}}
No... because this won't work when there's more than one staff. You'll
get 2 second voltas:
\version "2.4.5"
\layout{ raggedright = ##t }
\score{
<<
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 { f g a2 ~ }
\alternative {
{ a4 g2 f4 }
{ \grace{ \hideNotes a4~ } \unHideNotes a g2. }
}
}
\new DrumStaff {
\drummode {
\repeat volta 2 { sn4 sn sn sn}
\alternative {
{sn4 sn sn sn }
{sn4 hh2. }
}
}
}
>>
}
Try this instead:
\version "2.4.5"
\layout{ raggedright = ##t }
\score{
<<
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 { f g a2 ~ }
\alternative {
{ a4 g2 f4 }
{ s64 \grace{ \hideNotes a4~ } \unHideNotes a4*1/2 s16 s32 s64 g2. }
}
}
\new DrumStaff {
\drummode {
\repeat volta 2 { sn4 sn sn sn}
\alternative {
{sn4 sn sn sn }
{sn4 hh2. }
}
}
}
>>
}
yes... ugly.
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Re: Ties in second endings
Peter Mogensen wrote:
Fairchild wrote:
Graham -
Here's a trim-down of the thread, for sticking in the manual, in the section
on ties, or repeats, or both. Edit to suit.
There ought to be a better way that makes the tie more pronounced, but a
simple way eludes me.
- Bruce
Ties are not normally continued into second endings, but a standard trick is
to add a tie from an invisible note. One way is to make the invisible note
a grace note. In that way, it doesn't destroy the rhythm.
\version "2.4.6"
\layout{ raggedright = ##t }
\score{
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 { f g a2 ~ }
\alternative {
{ a4 g2 f4 }
{ \grace{ \hideNotes a4~ } \unHideNotes a g2. }
}}}
No... because this won't work when there's more than one staff. You'll
get 2 second voltas:
See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-09/msg00444.html
for the simple extra work-around that's needed.
/Mats
\version "2.4.5"
\layout{ raggedright = ##t }
\score{
<<
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 { f g a2 ~ }
\alternative {
{ a4 g2 f4 }
{ \grace{ \hideNotes a4~ } \unHideNotes a g2. }
}
}
\new DrumStaff {
\drummode {
\repeat volta 2 { sn4 sn sn sn}
\alternative {
{sn4 sn sn sn }
{sn4 hh2. }
}
}
}
>>
}
Try this instead:
\version "2.4.5"
\layout{ raggedright = ##t }
\score{
<<
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 { f g a2 ~ }
\alternative {
{ a4 g2 f4 }
{ s64 \grace{ \hideNotes a4~ } \unHideNotes a4*1/2 s16 s32 s64 g2. }
}
}
\new DrumStaff {
\drummode {
\repeat volta 2 { sn4 sn sn sn}
\alternative {
{sn4 sn sn sn }
{sn4 hh2. }
}
}
}
>>
}
yes... ugly.
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Re: Ties in second endings
Erik Sandberg wrote:
> why not do something like this?
>
> \new DrumStaff {
>\drummode {
> \repeat volta 2 { sn4 sn sn sn}
> \alternative {
>{sn4 sn sn sn }
>{\grace s4 sn4 hh2. }
> }
>}
> }
>>>
>
> This is the proper way to do work around it. (and the manual should perhaps
> mention the trick explicitly).
Define "proper".
The above requires you to add the hack to all staves if you need it in
one staff. That's too much trouble for my lilypond use.
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Re: Ties in second endings
Citerar Peter Mogensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Fairchild wrote:
> > \version "2.4.6"
> > \layout{ raggedright = ##t }
> > \score{
> > \relative c' {
> > \repeat volta 2 { f g a2 ~ }
> > \alternative {
> > { a4 g2 f4 }
> > { \grace{ \hideNotes a4~ } \unHideNotes a g2. }
> > }}}
>
> No... because this won't work when there's more than one staff. You'll
> get 2 second voltas:
why not do something like this?
\new DrumStaff {
\drummode {
\repeat volta 2 { sn4 sn sn sn}
\alternative {
{sn4 sn sn sn }
{\grace s4 sn4 hh2. }
}
}
}
>>
This is the proper way to do work around it. (and the manual should perhaps
mention the trick explicitly).
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Re: version 2.6.x for debian (unstable or sarge)?
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Re: Ties in second endings
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> Peter Mogensen wrote:
>> Mats Bengtsson wrote:
>>> See
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2005-09/msg00444.html
>>> for the simple extra work-around that's needed.
>>
>> Yes... I did read your post.
>> And as I said in the answer, I've experienced that that solution causes
>> lilypond to give up breaking lines.
>
>
> It seems to be a bug in versions 2.4 and 2.6 that has been fixed in
> version 2.7. Otherwise, I would have asked you to send a separate
> bug report to bug-lilypond.
OK... I didn't know that.
>> I also don't like to have to repeat
>
>> a hack in all voices.
>> Thus, I prefer the solution I just posted.
>
>
> OK! One clear disadvantage is that the first real note of the second
> ending gets typeset too far to the right compared to the other
> parts.
Yes... but only very little, if you use "s64"
For my use this is better. I care about typesetting, but I care even
more about easily maintainable code because I often re-arrange and make
ad-hoc publications for courses.
So I'm willing to compromise a slight shift in one voice for not having
to duplicate hacks in all voices.
> Also, I didn't really see the point of using \grace{...},
> when you anyway were fiddling with the note durations, but when I
> tried it and compared to using
> \hideNotes a64~ \unHideNotes a4*15/16 s16.. g2.
> I noticed that you got a smaller displacement (since the spacing
> is smaller for grace notes) but also a correspondingly shorter
> tie.
Yes... you're right. The use of \grace is not necessary, but it makes a
smaller tie, which IMHO seems more correct.
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Re: Ties in second endings
Fairchild wrote:
Mats -
Thanks. Your two alternatives should make the docs, maybe Tips and Tricks.
In your preferred case, using a hidden grace longer than 1/16 causes a third
ending to be inserted. Why? Bug?
??? I can't repeat the problem. Did you remember to change the
duration of the grace notes in both staves?
/Mats
Using
{\grace{\hideNotes g32 ( g32 }\unHideNotes a4 ) g e d | c1 }}
improves the tie by making it slightly longer.
- Bruce
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Subject: Re: Ties in second endings
Peter Mogensen wrote:
Mats Bengtsson wrote:
* Ties are not continued into second endings
The standard trick is to add a tie from an invisible note. You can
find several examples in the mailing list archives.
I did that.
But this is also one of the examples where the "hack" doesn't play
well with the entire score. This invisible note takes up space, which
ruins the alignment with notes in other staffs where there's no tie.
I just realized that one possibility to solve this is to make the
invisible note a grace note. In that way, it won't destroy the rhythm.
Example:
\version "2.6.0"
\score{
\new Voice \relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 {c d2 e4 | f g a2 ~ }
\alternative{{a4 g2 f4 | e2 d }{ \grace{\hideNotes a'4~}
\unHideNotes a g e d\ | c1 }} }
}
Unfortunately this seems to give the same problem as when the music
starts with a grace note (causing the time sign to be duplicated).
Only now it's the second volta-spanner which is duplicated. So... two
hacks would be required.
I hope you know how to fix it, namely to insert a \grace{s4} in the
beginning of the second ending of all other voices. Example:
\score{
\relative c' <<
\new Staff {
\repeat volta 2 {c d2 e4 | f g a2 ~ }
\alternative{{a4 g2 f4 | e2 d }
{\grace{\hideNotes a'16~ }\unHideNotes a4 g e d | c1 }}
}
\new Staff {
\repeat volta 2 {c2 b4 c | d c f2 }
\alternative{{d4 e d2 | c b |}
{\grace s16 d2 g4 g, | c1}}
}
>>
}
The other alternative that is often used is to fiddle with the durations, as
in the following example, but then you either get the note head slightly
misplaced compared to the other voices or you have to apply the same trick
to all voices, so I prefer the grace note solution.
\score{
\relative c' <<
\new Staff {
\repeat volta 2 {c4 d2 e4 | f g a2 ~ }
\alternative{{a4 g2 f4 | e2 d }
{\hideNotes a'32 ~ \unHideNotes a4*7/8 g4 e d | c1 }}
}
\new Staff {
\repeat volta 2 {c2 b4 c | d c f2 }
\alternative{{d4 e d2 | c b |}
{ d2 g4 g, | c1}}
}
>>
}
/Mats
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problem with running lily
Hello, I'm a happy user of lilypond and as such I persuaded my friend to give it a try. I helped him with istallation (Win98). Everything seemed to be ok. Running lilypond for the first time without any arguments resulted in in a "Welcome to LilyPond" file as expected. Proccessing this file proved to be a problem though: Here is the feedback from the program screen an the log file: GNU LilyPond 2.6.3 Error: /undefined in .setp Operand stack: Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval- - 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- fa lse 1 %stopped_push .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nost ringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:1129/1686(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:70/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Last OS error: No such file or directory Log file: # -*-compilation-*- Processing `scale.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [2] Preprocessing graphical objects... Calculating line breaks... Calculating page breaks... Layout output to `scale.ps'... Converting to `scale.pdf'...GPL Ghostscript 8.15: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 `gs -q -dCompatibilityLevel#1.4 -sPAPERSIZE#"a4" -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE#pdfwrite -sOutputFile#"scale.pdf" -c .setpdfwrite -f "scale.ps"' failed (1) Any idea, what might be the problem? Thanks Jan Janovcik __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Font regression woes
Rendering /input/regression/font-name.ly under OS X with 2.7.9 generates ...
Trevor-Bacas-Computer:~/Documents/music/lilypond/test trevorbaca$ lily
font-name.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.7.9
Processing `font-name.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [2]
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Calculating line breaks...
Calculating page breaks...
Layout output to `font-name.ps'...
warning: can't extract file matching TimesNewRomanPSMT from
/Library/Fonts/Times New Roman
Converting to `font-name.pdf'...
`gs -q -dSAFER -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -sPAPERSIZE="a4" -dNOPAUSE
-dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile="font-name.pdf" -c
.setpdfwrite -f "font-name.ps"' failed (256)
error: failed files: "font-name.ly"
Thu Sep 22 07:14:30 CDT 2005
... with the attached .png as output.
I've kept the contents of /input/regression/font-name.ly exactly the
same except for the version number:
%% BEGIN /INPUT/REGRESSION/FONT-NAME.LY %
\version "2.7.9"
\header {
texidoc = "Other fonts can be used by setting @code{font-name} for
the appropriate object. The string should be a Pango font description
without size specification."
}
\layout { raggedright = ##t }
{
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'font-name = #"Times New Roman"
\time 3/4
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\override Staff.MultiMeasureRestText #'font-name = #"LuxiMono"
R1*21^"Rest in LuxiMono"
c'1_\markup {
\override #'(font-name . "Vera Bold")
\override #'(font-size . 4)
{ This text is in large Vera Bold }
}
}
END
My font config must be seriously jacked because all attempts to
override #'font-name in my own scores fail similarly.
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Re: problem with running lily
If you search the mailing list archives, you will find out that there have been problems to make LilyPond work well on Win98. Probably you can also find some hints on how to work around the problems. (Don't forget to look in the archives of bug-lilypond and lilypond-devel too). /Mats Jan Janovcik wrote: Hello, I'm a happy user of lilypond and as such I persuaded my friend to give it a try. I helped him with istallation (Win98). Everything seemed to be ok. Running lilypond for the first time without any arguments resulted in in a "Welcome to LilyPond" file as expected. Proccessing this file proved to be a problem though: Here is the feedback from the program screen an the log file: GNU LilyPond 2.6.3 Error: /undefined in .setp Operand stack: Execution stack: %interp_exit .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval- - 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nostringval-- fa lse 1 %stopped_push .runexec2 --nostringval-- --nostringval-- --nost ringval-- 2 %stopped_push --nostringval-- Dictionary stack: --dict:1129/1686(ro)(G)-- --dict:0/20(G)-- --dict:70/200(L)-- Current allocation mode is local Last OS error: No such file or directory Log file: # -*-compilation-*- Processing `scale.ly' Parsing... Interpreting music... [2] Preprocessing graphical objects... Calculating line breaks... Calculating page breaks... Layout output to `scale.ps'... Converting to `scale.pdf'...GPL Ghostscript 8.15: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 `gs -q -dCompatibilityLevel#1.4 -sPAPERSIZE#"a4" -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -r1200 -sDEVICE#pdfwrite -sOutputFile#"scale.pdf" -c .setpdfwrite -f "scale.ps"' failed (1) Any idea, what might be the problem? Thanks Jan Janovcik __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Ties in second endings
Title: Message
Mats
-
You must be
right. I recall seeing a third ending inserted with only one staff,
but can't repeat it.
Here's an
example of what happens with a grace note on one of two
staves.
\version
"2.4.6"\layout { raggedright = ##t }\score{ \relative c'
<<\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 { a'1 ~ }\alternative{ { a } {
\grace a8~ a1 } }}\new Staff { \repeat volta 2 { f1 }\alternative{ { d }
{ d1 } }} >> }
This has been a good thread, presenting several
alternatives for ties into a second ending. I agree with Werner; a
standard way should be provided -- all the tricks are flaky. My post
that condenses the thread is intended to indicate in the doc that no standard
way exists and to give one way.
- Bruce
-Original Message-From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent:
Thursday, September 22, 2005 5:48 AMTo: FairchildCc:
lilypond-user@gnu.orgSubject: Re: Ties in second endingsFairchild
wrote:> Mats ->> Thanks. Your two alternatives should
make the docs, maybe Tips and> Tricks.>> In your preferred
case, using a hidden grace longer than 1/16 causes a> third ending to be
inserted. Why? Bug I can't repeat the problem. Did you
remember to change the duration of the grace notes in both
staves? /Mats
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How to pause a staff with some horizontal whitespage?
Hi, I see a lot of scores with a layout like this: Segno CODA / / | intro || A-part | volta1 || volta2 || B-part | volta1 || volta2 || ...D.S. al Coda CODA: | "A-volta3" || C-part | volta1 || volta2 || ...Fine Most often the score is divided into two parts with part-2 starting at CODA. There's some whitespace between the end of B-volta2 and the first meassure of CODA. So somewhere in the score, there would be a line like this: ___ 1.volta | 2.volta |CODA | | ---|--|||| | ---|--|||| | ---|-*|||| | ---|-*|||| | ---|--|||| | | |||| | | |||| | | |||| | | |||| | ---|--|||| | ---|--|||| | ---|-*|||| | ---|-*|||| | ---|--|||| | Is there a not-too-much-of-a-hack way to do this? regards, Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to pause a staff with some horizontal whitespage?
Read the NEWS in the documentation for version 2.6. /Mats Peter Mogensen wrote: Hi, I see a lot of scores with a layout like this: Segno CODA / / | intro || A-part | volta1 || volta2 || B-part | volta1 || volta2 || ...D.S. al Coda CODA: | "A-volta3" || C-part | volta1 || volta2 || ...Fine Most often the score is divided into two parts with part-2 starting at CODA. There's some whitespace between the end of B-volta2 and the first meassure of CODA. So somewhere in the score, there would be a line like this: ___ 1.volta | 2.volta |CODA | | ---|--|||| | ---|--|||| | ---|-*|||| | ---|-*|||| | ---|--|||| | | |||| | | |||| | | |||| | | |||| | ---|--|||| | ---|--|||| | ---|-*|||| | ---|-*|||| | ---|--|||| | Is there a not-too-much-of-a-hack way to do this? regards, Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to pause a staff with some horizontal whitespage?
Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Read the NEWS in the documentation for version 2.6. Unless I'm mistaken \stopStaff \startStaff doesn't stop output of notes. Only the staff-lines. To use this, it would require to insert skip-notes in all staffs/voices. I would rather measure the horizontal space in centimeters than in note-values. Peter > Peter Mogensen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I see a lot of scores with a layout like this: >> >> Segno CODA >> / / >> | intro || A-part | volta1 || volta2 || >> B-part | volta1 || volta2 || ...D.S. al Coda >> >> CODA: | "A-volta3" || C-part | volta1 || volta2 || ...Fine >> >> >> Most often the score is divided into two parts with part-2 starting at >> CODA. There's some whitespace between the end of B-volta2 and the first >> meassure of CODA. So somewhere in the score, there would be a line like >> this: >> ___ >> 1.volta | 2.volta |CODA >>| | >> ---|--|||| | >> ---|--|||| | >> ---|-*|||| | >> ---|-*|||| | >> ---|--|||| | >>| |||| | >>| |||| | >>| |||| | >>| |||| | >> ---|--|||| | >> ---|--|||| | >> ---|-*|||| | >> ---|-*|||| | >> ---|--|||| | >> >> >> >> Is there a not-too-much-of-a-hack way to do this? >> >> >> regards, >> Peter >> >> >> ___ >> lilypond-user mailing list >> lilypond-user@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.
Am Donnerstag, 22. September 2005 00:48 schrieb Han-Wen Nienhuys: > No, staves. I could make the vertical alignment routines adjust their > vertical stretch by inspecting the alignment-stretch-factor of their > left bound. This would make it possible to make systems take up more > vertical space on otherwise empty pages. This would indeed be great! Robert ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to pause a staff with some horizontal whitespage?
Peter Mogensen wrote: Mats Bengtsson wrote: Read the NEWS in the documentation for version 2.6. Unless I'm mistaken \stopStaff \startStaff doesn't stop output of notes. Only the staff-lines. To use this, it would require to insert skip-notes in all staffs/voices. I would rather measure the horizontal space in centimeters than in note-values. This is unavoidable; All horizontal positions have 2 colunms associated with them, a musical (where the note is) and a non-musical one (for clefs, barlines, etc.). Without skips, we'd have to have 2 non-musical columns for a single time position, and that would require major hacking. It should be feasible to specify the amount of space as a dimension, though. Do you want to me to look into that as a sponsored feature? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Font regression woes
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Re: How to pause a staff with some horizontal whitespage?
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
> Peter Mogensen wrote:
>
>> Mats Bengtsson wrote:
>>
>>> Read the NEWS in the documentation for version 2.6.
>>
>> Unless I'm mistaken \stopStaff \startStaff doesn't stop output of notes.
>> Only the staff-lines.
>>
>> To use this, it would require to insert skip-notes in all staffs/voices.
>> I would rather measure the horizontal space in centimeters than in
>> note-values.
>
> This is unavoidable; All horizontal positions have 2 colunms associated
> with them, a musical (where the note is) and a non-musical one (for
> clefs, barlines, etc.). Without skips, we'd have to have 2 non-musical
> columns for a single time position, and that would require major
> hacking. It should be feasible to specify the amount of space as a
> dimension, though. Do you want to me to look into that as a sponsored
> feature?
Nah... my budget is limited, and before I can decide where it's best to
invest I think I need to know more about the internal design of
Lilypond. (I know... I could/should read the source).
One thing that I keep wondering is how much the internals of Lilypond
knows about the flow (in time) of the music?
I would guess that many of the features which I struggle with have
something to do with Lilypond not knowing anything about in which order
the music it typesets are actually played.
If you could specify something like:
* Create a new set of staffs, take the music and typeset measures up to
#72.
* \staffbreak{2cm}
* Create new staffs, and typeset the rest.
Where "staffbreak" is akin to linebreaks/pagebreaks.
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Re: Font regression woes
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Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.
Hi Han-Wen,
I'm almost certainly down for EUR 130 but first I have two questions;
they're in-line:
On 9/20/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fairchild wrote:
> > Not from me, but there have been many postings from individuals struggling
> > with page layout vertical springs. Suggest you ask the user list, with a
> > short description of the feature. (Or maybe "anti-feature" :-) )
>
> I could implement the following:
>
>
> - add a property
>
> line-break-system-details
>
> to NonMusicalPaperColumn
>
>
> - This is an alist of properties, that are applied to the
> system following a line-break at that point.
>
> It could support the following properties:
>
> Y-extent -- set the vertical size of the system (used as vertical
> "rods")
>
> Y-refpoint-extent -- set the vertical size of the refpoints (used
> as vertical "springs")
>
> PRICE: 130 euro
>
>
>
> In addition, I could also make an
>
> alignment-stretch-factor -- scale parameters used for vertical
> alignments.
>
> This would make it possible to set the distance between staves in
> individual staves easily.
>
> PRICE: 130 euro
>
>
>
> With these feature in place, it would be possible to control vertical
> spacing after line breaks. Of course, it's up to the user to force
> certain breakpoints.
First question: how do these two features differ? If feature #1 lets
you specify spacing details immediately after (or before?) a \break or
\pageBreak, then doesn't that give 100% control over vertical spacing
to the user (thereby making feature #2 unnecessary)? Or perhaps #2
adds some additional control above and beyond #1?
> If there is sufficient interest, I can also include a -ddump-breaks ,
> which writes a
>
>line-breaks.ly
>
> file, containing
>
>
>breakLayout = { \skip 1*4
> \break
> \skip 1*3/4
> \break
> \pageBreak
>.. etc ..
>}
>
> so that you can use page and line break layout, by doing
>
>\score {
> << ..my Music..
> \breakLayout
> >>
>}
>
>
> PRICE: 130 euro
Second question: would this feature #3 be any different than making
the contents of breakLayout into a Voice added to any of the existing
Staves in the score? For example:
\score {
<<
\new Staff <<
\myRealMusic
\breakLayout
>>
\new Staff \moreMusic
\new Staff \yetMoreMusic
... etc ...
>>
}
Might this solution work without the need for development? (This is
stolen from Jan's input for Satie's "Petite ouverture à danser".)
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Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.
On 9/22/05, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Han-Wen,
>
> I'm almost certainly down for EUR 130 but first I have two questions;
> they're in-line:
>
> On 9/20/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Fairchild wrote:
> > > Not from me, but there have been many postings from individuals struggling
> > > with page layout vertical springs. Suggest you ask the user list, with a
> > > short description of the feature. (Or maybe "anti-feature" :-) )
> >
> > I could implement the following:
> >
> >
> > - add a property
> >
> > line-break-system-details
> >
> > to NonMusicalPaperColumn
> >
> >
> > - This is an alist of properties, that are applied to the
> > system following a line-break at that point.
> >
> > It could support the following properties:
> >
> > Y-extent -- set the vertical size of the system (used as vertical
> > "rods")
> >
> > Y-refpoint-extent -- set the vertical size of the refpoints (used
> > as vertical "springs")
> >
> > PRICE: 130 euro
> >
> >
> >
> > In addition, I could also make an
> >
> > alignment-stretch-factor -- scale parameters used for vertical
> > alignments.
> >
> > This would make it possible to set the distance between staves in
> > individual staves easily.
> >
> > PRICE: 130 euro
> >
> >
> >
> > With these feature in place, it would be possible to control vertical
> > spacing after line breaks. Of course, it's up to the user to force
> > certain breakpoints.
>
> First question: how do these two features differ? If feature #1 lets
> you specify spacing details immediately after (or before?) a \break or
> \pageBreak, then doesn't that give 100% control over vertical spacing
> to the user (thereby making feature #2 unnecessary)? Or perhaps #2
> adds some additional control above and beyond #1?
>
>
> > If there is sufficient interest, I can also include a -ddump-breaks ,
> > which writes a
> >
> >line-breaks.ly
> >
> > file, containing
> >
> >
> >breakLayout = { \skip 1*4
> > \break
> > \skip 1*3/4
> > \break
> > \pageBreak
> >.. etc ..
> >}
> >
> > so that you can use page and line break layout, by doing
> >
> >\score {
> > << ..my Music..
> > \breakLayout
> > >>
> >}
> >
> >
> > PRICE: 130 euro
>
> Second question: would this feature #3 be any different than making
> the contents of breakLayout into a Voice added to any of the existing
> Staves in the score? For example:
>
> \score {
> <<
> \new Staff <<
> \myRealMusic
> \breakLayout
> >>
> \new Staff \moreMusic
> \new Staff \yetMoreMusic
>... etc ...
> >>
> }
>
> Might this solution work without the need for development? (This is
> stolen from Jan's input for Satie's "Petite ouverture à danser".)
I clicked "send" too quickly.
Third question: would either feature #1, #2 or #3 afford the following ability:
To be able to set both the *very topmost* staffline on a page (ie, the
top staffline of the top staff of the top system of the page) at an
exact vertical distance from the top of the page and the *very
bottommost* staffline on a page (ie, the bottom staffline of the
bottom staff of the bottom system of the page) at an exact vertical
distance from the bottom of the page? (The point being to be able to
make the topmost stafflines and bottommost stafflines align vertically
on facing pages (or to even more strictly force those distances
constant throughout an entire score.))
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Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.
Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nicolas Sceaux wrote: >> Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>I could implement the following: >>> >>>add a property line-break-system-details >>>PRICE: 130 euro >>> >>>In addition, I could also make an alignment-stretch-factor >> >>>This would make it possible to set the distance between staves in >>>individual staves easily. >> ^^ you mean systems? > > No, staves. I could make the vertical alignment routines adjust their > vertical stretch by inspecting the alignment-stretch-factor of their > left bound. This would make it possible to make systems take up more > vertical space on otherwise empty pages. Ok, cool, that's exactly what I would like. If Trevor is also OK, we should have enough for line-break-system-details and alignment-stretch-factor, great! nicolas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Ties in second endings
On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 09:33 +0200, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > Ties are not normally continued into second endings, but a standard > > trick is to add a tie from an invisible note. One way is to make > > the invisible note a grace note. In that way, it doesn't destroy > > the rhythm. > > Uh, oh, ugly (the situation, not the idea or your code). Han-Wen, > handling such situations should be a standard feature of the ties > module... > > > Werner Not having any income to speak of right now, I may come to regret mentioning this, but I would be willing to support -- as in co-sponsor -- a fix to this problem. I don't have much, but it sure would be nice to be able to rally the support to see ties and slurs resume in alternative endings situations. Josiah ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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top-line tempo text markings
I recall a thread on this subject a few months ago, but I have not been able to find it in the archives. I'm trying to create a tempo marking -- something like "Andante" -- that only shows in the top line of a score, but when parts are extracted, shows on all of the parts. Similar to a rehearsal mark, but left-justified at the beginning of the bar where it begins. I'd do a simple text markup but can't figure out how to make it behave like a rehearsal mark. I've tried doing a \mark \markup, but trying to make it justify left didn't work. Josiah ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Converting music files in Windows
Title: Converting music files in Windows Hello, I hope this is not a FAQ but in the past I've created such a nice collection of music in V2.4.2, hardly a single one will run in 2.6 or higher. I found I'd need convert-ly to convert the files to a higer version, but I cannot find an executable for this. I do find a convert-ly.py script in my installation directory, but it won't run, I guess this is a Python (?) script. How do I run this script in Windows, I don't know were to find python… Tia, Ben van Zanten ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Co-sponsoring Was: Ties in second endings
D Josiah Boothby wrote: > Not having any income to speak of right now, I may come to regret > mentioning this, but I would be willing to support -- as in co-sponsor > -- a fix to this problem. I don't have much, but it sure would be nice > to be able to rally the support to see ties and slurs resume in > alternative endings situations. I think a lot of us do... I hope for a more clean complete solution which also could handle ties into CODA-jumps. I guess there's many users which would like such larger features, but do not have the money to pay for the grand unified solution alone. I hope Han-Wen could set up some kind og "vote-with-your-money" system, so we all could contribute to get something implemented. Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.
Trevor Bača wrote:
First question: how do these two features differ? If feature #1 lets
you specify spacing details immediately after (or before?) a \break or
\pageBreak, then doesn't that give 100% control over vertical spacing
to the user (thereby making feature #2 unnecessary)? Or perhaps #2
adds some additional control above and beyond #1?
#2 and #1 control different vertical spacing elements: #2 controls the
space of staves within a system, while #1 controls the space between
systems.
Second question: would this feature #3 be any different than making
the contents of breakLayout into a Voice added to any of the existing
Staves in the score? For example:
\score {
<<
\new Staff <<
\myRealMusic
\breakLayout
>>
\new Staff \moreMusic
\new Staff \yetMoreMusic
... etc ...
>>
}
Might this solution work without the need for development? (This is
stolen from Jan's input for Satie's "Petite ouverture à danser".)
Yes, but there is no way to automatically generate \breakLayout from
within LilyPond right now. You'd have to do it by hand, or accept that
every tweak you do might alter line breaking.
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Re: Font regression woes
Trevor Bača wrote: On 9/22/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Trevor Bača wrote: Rendering /input/regression/font-name.ly under OS X with 2.7.9 generates ... is this 10.3 or 10.4 ? 10.4.2 The problem is with the fondu program, which is used to extract fonts. Dealing with resource forks has changed from 10.3 to 10.4, and its author (George Williams) doesn't run 10.4 (yet) to fix the issue. If you're familiar with MacOS X, you could also have a look yourself; I suspect that the fix should be easy. A quick hack is to use a font that isn't stored as a Resource fork -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to pause a staff with some horizontal whitespage?
Peter Mogensen wrote:
If you could specify something like:
* Create a new set of staffs, take the music and typeset measures up to
#72.
* \staffbreak{2cm}
* Create new staffs, and typeset the rest.
Where "staffbreak" is akin to linebreaks/pagebreaks.
Yes, then what? What you propose is possible, but \staffBreak will have
to have an (implicit) duration.
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Re: Co-sponsoring Was: Ties in second endings
Peter Mogensen wrote: I think a lot of us do... I hope for a more clean complete solution which also could handle ties into CODA-jumps. I guess there's many users which would like such larger features, but do not have the money to pay for the grand unified solution alone. I hope Han-Wen could set up some kind og "vote-with-your-money" system, so we all could contribute to get something implemented. On one hand, I'm all for "Pay grand amounts of money", but I think it's better for everyone, and better for the evolution of the program to fix problems in as small steps as possible. Right now, there are two problems: #1 typography: there has to be support for connecting ties on their right sides, like mirrored lv. ties. #2 translation: there has to mechanics to make remember ties at the start of repeats, and use #1 to create the ties appropriately. IIRC think I have set the price at EUR 110 for #1 + #2 (incl VAT and/or transfer costs, depending on where you live.) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.
On 9/22/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Trevor Bača wrote:
> > First question: how do these two features differ? If feature #1 lets
> > you specify spacing details immediately after (or before?) a \break or
> > \pageBreak, then doesn't that give 100% control over vertical spacing
> > to the user (thereby making feature #2 unnecessary)? Or perhaps #2
> > adds some additional control above and beyond #1?
>
> #2 and #1 control different vertical spacing elements: #2 controls the
> space of staves within a system, while #1 controls the space between
> systems.
Gotha. OK, good. I'm putting in EUR 130. So with me and Nicolas
together we're up to EUR 260, which should take care of #1 and #2.
> > Second question: would this feature #3 be any different than making
> > the contents of breakLayout into a Voice added to any of the existing
> > Staves in the score? For example:
> >
> > \score {
> > <<
> > \new Staff <<
> > \myRealMusic
> > \breakLayout
> > >>
> > \new Staff \moreMusic
> > \new Staff \yetMoreMusic
> >... etc ...
> > >>
> > }
> >
> > Might this solution work without the need for development? (This is
> > stolen from Jan's input for Satie's "Petite ouverture à danser".)
>
> Yes, but there is no way to automatically generate \breakLayout from
> within LilyPond right now. You'd have to do it by hand, or accept that
> every tweak you do might alter line breaking.
Yes, good point.
Maybe someone else out there can spring for the last EUR 130 and we'll
be at Lily's first complete suite of vertical spacing features? That
would be slick.
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Re: Font regression woes
On 9/22/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trevor Bača wrote: > > On 9/22/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Trevor Bača wrote: > >> > >>>Rendering /input/regression/font-name.ly under OS X with 2.7.9 generates > >>>... > >>> > >> > >>is this 10.3 or 10.4 ? > >> > > > > > > > > 10.4.2 > > > > The problem is with the fondu program, which is used to extract fonts. > Dealing with resource forks has changed from 10.3 to 10.4, and its > author (George Williams) doesn't run 10.4 (yet) to fix the issue. If > you're familiar with MacOS X, you could also have a look yourself; I > suspect that the fix should be easy. > > A quick hack is to use a font that isn't stored as a Resource fork OK. It's a draft so I can just stick with New Century Schoolbook until a fondu fix appears. No biggie. Mac font management mystifies me. Is there a straightforward way to see a list of fonts *not* stored in a resource fork (and, therefore, available with fondu under 10.4)? -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Co-sponsoring Was: Ties in second endings
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: IIRC think I have set the price at EUR 110 for #1 + #2 (incl VAT and/or transfer costs, depending on where you live.) Sorry, I'm a bit uncoherent. The point I'm trying to make is that the "Grand Unified Solution" should be built from many "Small Useful Solution"s. Otherwise, we might spend a lot of resources on something that is not so much needed in the end. What I sketched above is one part of the Grand Unified solution, so I think it is a good start to work on that. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.
Trevor Bača wrote: Third question: would either feature #1, #2 or #3 afford the following ability: To be able to set both the *very topmost* staffline on a page (ie, the top staffline of the top staff of the top system of the page) at an exact vertical distance from the top of the page and the *very bottommost* staffline on a page (ie, the bottom staffline of the bottom staff of the bottom system of the page) at an exact vertical distance from the bottom of the page? (The point being to be able to make the topmost stafflines and bottommost stafflines align vertically on facing pages (or to even more strictly force those distances constant throughout an entire score.)) I'm not sure that I understand what you mean. Do you want the systems to be vertically aligned against the page boundaries with their staves (ie. the 5-line staff symbols) iso. their bounding boxes? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Font regression woes
Trevor Bača wrote: OK. It's a draft so I can just stick with New Century Schoolbook until a fondu fix appears. No biggie. Mac font management mystifies me. Is there a straightforward way to see a list of fonts *not* stored in a resource fork (and, therefore, available with fondu under 10.4)? Just pick the ones which don't list 0 as their file size with ls -l -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: alignment of text in TextSpanner
On 9/21/05, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 20-Sep-05, at 11:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > \relative c'' {
> > \override TextSpanner #'edge-text = #'("s.p." . "ord.")
> > \override TextSpanner #'bound-padding = #1.0
> > \override TextSpanner #'dash-fraction = #'()
> > \override TextSpanner #'arrow = ##t
> >
> > a8\startTextSpan gis8 a4 b4
> > b,4 | g' c\stopTextSpan c
> > }
> >
> >
> > The problem is that the second word "ord." is aligned on the basis of
> > the
> > letter "d", I suppose, and because of this is misaligned compared to
> > the
> > arrow and the first word.
>
> What version of lilypond are you using? I just tried this in 2.7.8 and
> it looks
> ok to me... what exactly is the problem with the alignment?
Rendering Libero's example under 2.7.9 aligns the far left edge of
both indications (ie, the far left edge of the "s" in the ponticello
indication, and the far left edge of the "o" in the ordinario
indcation) with the dead center of the notehead.
My preference would be to center both indications over the notes,
somewhat by analogy to dynamics.
It seems that the pair of ...
\override TextScript #'self-alignment-X = #center
\override TextScript #'X-offset-callbacks =
#`(,Self_alignment_interface::aligned_on_self)
... should do the trick, but I can't make the indications budge at
all, unfortunately. Perhaps the overrides must be somehow *local* to
the pair of strings assigned to #edge-text, but I don't know the
syntax for sticking in the overrides locally.
Maybe Graham or Mats or Nicolas can explain how to adjust the x-axis
alignment of edge text independently?
--
Trevor Bača
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Hello, i've been trying in vain to get Lilypond 2.6 up and running on my SUSE 9.3, so I switched to the Windows side of my computer and installed Lilypond 2.7. As a test, I went to the manual and typed verbatim an example and it didn't work. I found a similar thing on the Linux side of my machine with Lilypond 2.4 and assumed that it was a version problem. Can anyone shed some light as to why the manual examples are not working? Thanks, Suzie ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Vertical spacing tweaks.
On 9/22/05, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trevor Bača wrote: > > Third question: would either feature #1, #2 or #3 afford the following > > ability: > > > > To be able to set both the *very topmost* staffline on a page (ie, the > > top staffline of the top staff of the top system of the page) at an > > exact vertical distance from the top of the page and the *very > > bottommost* staffline on a page (ie, the bottom staffline of the > > bottom staff of the bottom system of the page) at an exact vertical > > distance from the bottom of the page? (The point being to be able to > > make the topmost stafflines and bottommost stafflines align vertically > > on facing pages (or to even more strictly force those distances > > constant throughout an entire score.)) > > I'm not sure that I understand what you mean. Do you want the systems > to be vertically aligned against the page boundaries with their staves > (ie. the 5-line staff symbols) iso. their bounding boxes? Yes, precisely. It would (theoretically) therefore be possible for the bounding box to extend off the page ... but in practice the user will simply increase the top or bottom margin. -- Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to pause a staff with some horizontal whitespage?
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote:
>
> Peter Mogensen wrote:
>
>> If you could specify something like:
>> * Create a new set of staffs, take the music and typeset measures up to
>> #72.
>> * \staffbreak{2cm}
>> * Create new staffs, and typeset the rest.
>>
>> Where "staffbreak" is akin to linebreaks/pagebreaks.
>>
>
> Yes, then what? What you propose is possible, but \staffBreak will have
> to have an (implicit) duration.
That's ok, as long as you can tweak it like you can tweak distances
between paragraphs in LaTeX.
Then I could generate the type of scores I see other write by hand
without embedding the layout of the score in every voice.
Peter
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Re: Lilypond manual
On 22-Sep-05, at 4:47 PM, Suzanne Blatt wrote:
i've been trying in vain to get Lilypond 2.6 up and running on my SUSE
9.3, so I switched to the Windows side of my computer and installed
Lilypond 2.7. As a test, I went to the manual and typed verbatim an
example and it didn't work. I found a similar thing on the Linux side
of my machine with Lilypond 2.4 and assumed that it was a version
problem.
Can anyone shed some light as to why the manual examples are not
working?
Many of the manual examples are presented as fragments -- ie
c4 c c
To make a complete lilypond input file, you need to add { }
{
c4 c c
}
- Graham
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Re: Co-sponsoring Was: Ties in second endings
Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: > >> IIRC think I have set the price at EUR 110 for #1 + #2 (incl VAT >> and/or transfer costs, depending on where you live.) > > > Sorry, I'm a bit uncoherent. The point I'm trying to make is that the > "Grand Unified Solution" should be built from many "Small Useful > Solution"s. Otherwise, we might spend a lot of resources on something > that is not so much needed in the end. What I sketched above is one > part of the Grand Unified solution, so I think it is a good start to > work on that. You're right. But the I was trying to make is that if something requires desing-considerations for a clean solution, then it can be difficult to find "small useful solutions", which together gets you all the way. I'm not in a position to evaluate whether this is the case, since I've not read the source. I just wanted to make it possible to "do it right", if you conclude that the cleanest way to move forward would be changing some fundamental design. (even if the feature which caused that conclussion was minor). ... and for people to sponsor such activity together. Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
