Re: InstrumentNames alignment

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Sorry for the stupid question.
I forgot that I can use \markup \right-align.
Must have been a blackout. :-)

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convert-ly

2005-01-13 Thread Jan Janovcik
I came across a problem with convert-ly. I was trying
to convert some 1.4 input files. Lilypond 1.4
obviously wasn't able to recongnize ties in the
process of lyrics assignment, so you had to add one
more "_" in case of tied notes.
Convert-ly is not able to address this issue, so the
result is, one has to tediously search for such places
and remove excess underscores.
Is there any chance, this could be solved somehow in
the future?

Thanks

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Re: convert-ly

2005-01-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson
The easiest solution for you is probably to tell your current version of
LilyPond to also ignore ties when assigning lyrics to notes
(assuming that you use version 2.4.x now, always tell what version
you use to get a relevant answer):
\score{
  ...
\layout{
  ...
  \context{
\Score
melismaBusyProperties = #'(melismaBusy slurMelismaBusy beamMelismaBusy)
  }
}
}
The default definition can be found at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/Score.html
and some explanations can be found at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/Melisma_005ftranslator.html
   /Mats
Jan Janovcik wrote:
I came across a problem with convert-ly. I was trying
to convert some 1.4 input files. Lilypond 1.4
obviously wasn't able to recongnize ties in the
process of lyrics assignment, so you had to add one
more "_" in case of tied notes.
Convert-ly is not able to address this issue, so the
result is, one has to tediously search for such places
and remove excess underscores.
Is there any chance, this could be solved somehow in
the future?
Thanks
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Re: Beams across repeat signs

2005-01-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Seems like a bug to me!
Example:
\version "2.4.2"
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 {c d e16 f } e f g4 |
}
   /Mats
Erik Ronström wrote:
According to the regression tests, LilyPond does not typeset beams
across manual repeat signs. That is true. However, it does place beams
across repeat-voltas, if the repeat sign is mid-bar. Is there a way to
avoid that without using manual beaming?
I use LilyPond 2.2.4.
I tried so search the list archives, but as someone already pointed
out, the search function doesn't appear to be working for the moment.
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 26, Issue 23

2005-01-13 Thread Darius Blasband
Just for the record, why do you prevent your xml file from being 
validated against the DTD ?

Cheers,
D.
Joshua Koo wrote:
Try http://www.recordare.com/dtds/partwise.html
I still can access the server. Also after i installed the musicXml for finale 
plugin, a directory C:\MusicXML is created with lots of dtd and xsl.
However, when I'm running xml2ly, i usually remove the doctype line eg. 
	
to prevent the xsl parser from validating the xml file.

Joshua
 

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:37:41 +0100
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To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
I decided I'd have a look at an improved MusicXML -> Lilypond converter,
but recordare's site seems to be down, no way for me to get the DTD
or even better an XML Schema for MusicXML... 

Can anyone help ?
Cheers,
D.
   



 



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Non-latin1 characters (was: Lyricsto skips notes with melisma's in 2.2)

2005-01-13 Thread =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Dwu=C5=BCnik?=
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:42:37 +0100, Mats Bengtsson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't remember from the top of my head what version of LilyPond
> you use. In version 2.2, it was possible to set the input and
> font encoding using
> \header{
>fontencoding="..."
>inputencoding="..."
> }
> 
That _was_ nice :), and let me do some tricks with latex intermediate
file, after willingly crashing lilypond by not defining the encoding and
using non-latin1 characters inside the piece :)

> If you use version 2.4, don't spend too much energy on solving these
> problems since a new solution is already (almost) implemented in
> the latest development versions and it seems that the release of
> the next stable version 2.6 is not in the very far future.
> 
I found my solution (involving sed) after some struggle, and to avoid
that struggle
I proposed adding something to the docs, like an example
of what strange glyphs different people  use in their own languages.
You may be sure that I will be one of the first people to try 2.6 utf
features :).

Of course if 2.6 is due in something like 1 month,
we can leave it, but if it's 6 months I would consider adding some hints or
expanding "embedded TeX" example.

> > to have a more generous example on "TeX" encoding for the use of
> > non-fully-latin alphabet
> > users ? And a clear remark, that  one should probably not try to write 
> > his/her
> > national characters "normally" (like latin2 encoding), or preprocess
> > the file to produce TeX
> > equivalents before running lilypond.

That's the part I feel is missing in 2.4 documentation - that if you really
want something in e.g. latin2 - use TeX encoding. I really have spent
lots of time getting my test files processed with no errors,
and seeing completely messy output afterwards, regardless
of defining
> \header{
>fontencoding="..."
>inputencoding="..."
> }
This applies to section 7.4.1 of the 2.4 documentation - 
trying both cp1250 and latin2 for the inputencoding (Linux and Windows
install) , T1 for
fontencoding, general \encoding "latin2" gave me only completely messy output, 
the only usable encoding being "TeX" and writing the Polish glyphs 
by \k{a}, \\'c and so on.

In my private mail I keep a discussion with two other Polih guys, who
hadn't ever managed
to get fontencoding and inputencoding working for version 2.4 and in
the same time
reporting that it works within 2.2. 
 
For version 2.4 example of getting Polish glyphs follows:

---
\encoding "TeX"
\header{
title = "\k{a}\\'c\k{e}\l\\'n\\'o\\'s\.z\\'zi"
composer = "\k{A}\\'C\k{E}\L\\'N\\'O\\'S\.Z\\'ZI"
}

\transpose  c c' {
<<
 {c d e f g a b c' cis' c d e f g a b c' cis' }
\addlyrics { "\k{a}" "\\'c" "\k{e}" "\l" "\\'n" "\\'o" "\\'s" "\.z" "\\'z"
"\k{A}" "\\'C" "\k{E}" "\L" "\\'N" "\\'O" "\\'S" "\.Z" "\\'Z"
}
>>
}
-

This lets us use all the needed glyphs (and many others), but is far
from comfortable,
version 2.2 example with :

\header{
inputencoding = "cp1250" 
fontencoding = "T1"
}

was reported to work perfectly, and used the encoding "natural" for windows
(latin2 for linux I suppose) .

In version 2.4.2 
---
\header{
nputencoding = "cp1250"
fontencoding = "T1"
}

\transpose  c c' {
<<
{c}
\addlyrics { Ä }
>>
}

yields the following .log


---
This is TeXk, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) (format=latex 2005.1.13) 
13 JAN 2005 11:40
 %&-line parsing enabled.
**\nonstopmode \input test.tex
(./test.tex (/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.2/tex/lilyponddefs.tex
\lytempdim=\dimen102
\outputscale=\dimen103

(/usr/share/lilypond/2.4.2/tex/lily-ps-defs.tex))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo
File: size10.clo 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX file (size option)
)
(...)

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty
Package: inputenc 2001/07/10 v0.99a Input encoding file 

(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/latin1.def
File: latin1.def 2001/07/10 v0.99a Input encoding file 
)) 


so it clearly tries to use latin1 encoding, where it shouldn't.


Shall we have an update like "Non latin1 (or maybe just latin2) inputencodings 
are deprecated in version 2.4, use TeX encoding and type the TeX
equivalents of your
national characters. If you do not feel comfortable with 
TeX equivalents please do some preprocessing replacing the needed characters 
by their TeX prefix represantation." in section 7.4.1 ?


Best regards, and thanks for Graham and Mats for their infinite will 
of help.

Michal


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Lilypond pieces already entered

2005-01-13 Thread Gordon Gilbert
Hi!
Anybody have Bach's "Little G-Minor"?  I think it's BWV# 1075 or something 
like that .  It would begin:

{
g'4 d'' bes'4. a'4 \bar "|"
g'8 bes' a' g' fis' a' d'4 \bar "|" 
g'8 d' a' d' bes' a'16 g' a'8 d' \bar "|"
}

 . . . etc.
If so,I would hope it could be compiled with 2.2.2, which is what I have.
Thanks
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Re: Non-latin1 characters (was: Lyricsto skips notes with melisma's in 2.2)

2005-01-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson

MichaÅ DwuÅnik wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:42:37 +0100, Mats Bengtsson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't remember from the top of my head what version of LilyPond
you use. In version 2.2, it was possible to set the input and
font encoding using
\header{
  fontencoding="..."
  inputencoding="..."
}
That _was_ nice :), and let me do some tricks with latex intermediate
file, after willingly crashing lilypond by not defining the encoding and
using non-latin1 characters inside the piece :)
Did you see 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-08/msg00061.html
which shows how to specify the font that LilyPond uses for lyrics
(or other textual annotations) using the font-name property?
Again, this is something that works up to version 2.2 but probably
not longer.

  /Mats
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Re: Lilypond pieces already entered

2005-01-13 Thread Gordon Gilbert
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Christ van Willegen wrote:
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:54:34 +0100
From: Christ van Willegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gordon Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Lilypond pieces already entered
Hi Gordon,
Anybody have Bach's "Little G-Minor"?  I think it's BWV# 1075 or something
like that .  It would begin:
I'm sorry, I can't help you here...
{
g'4 d'' bes'4. a'4 \bar "|"
g'8 bes' a' g' fis' a' d'4 \bar "|"
g'8 d' a' d' bes' a'16 g' a'8 d' \bar "|"
}
Just wondering...
Why do you put \bar "|" in this piece, where you can probably just do this:
g'4 d'' bes'4. a'4 |
g'8 bes' a' g' fis' a' d'4 |
g'8 d' a' d' bes' a'16 g' a'8 d' |
Also, I think there's a rythmic bug in the first line, my guess is
that it should be
g'4 d''8 bes'4. a'4 |  or
Regards,
Christ van Willegen
Yes, sorry, the rhythm of the first line should go:
 g'4 d'' bes'4. a'8 \bar "|"
Anyway, I only entered it in this email to describe the piece.  And about 
the bar lines -- I've not had a great deal of success with them, and 
prefer automatic setting of barlines.  But for the purposes of this email, 
I put them in.

Blessings,
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Re: Lilypond pieces already entered

2005-01-13 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi Gordon,

> Anybody have Bach's "Little G-Minor"?  I think it's BWV# 1075 or something
> like that .  It would begin:
I'm sorry, I can't help you here...

> {
> g'4 d'' bes'4. a'4 \bar "|"
> g'8 bes' a' g' fis' a' d'4 \bar "|"
> g'8 d' a' d' bes' a'16 g' a'8 d' \bar "|"
> }
Just wondering...

Why do you put \bar "|" in this piece, where you can probably just do this:
g'4 d'' bes'4. a'4 |
g'8 bes' a' g' fis' a' d'4 |
g'8 d' a' d' bes' a'16 g' a'8 d' |

Also, I think there's a rythmic bug in the first line, my guess is
that it should be
g'4 d''8 bes'4. a'4 |  or

Regards,

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Comment marks

2005-01-13 Thread Gordon Gilbert
Is it possible to comment out whole sections of your file?  For example in 
the process of trying something, would it work to comment out a whole 
section of music or chords, or words like this?

%{
a b c d
d e f g
}
Would that whole thing not be processed as it is?  or would it just choke 
at the unmatched braces?

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Bar lines. Was: Lilypond pieces already entered

2005-01-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Gordon Gilbert wrote:
>...
And about the bar lines -- I've not had a great deal of success with them, 
and prefer automatic setting of barlines.
What problems have you experienced? Of course you should let LilyPond
find the bar line positions automatically, but the idea of the bar
checks '|' is to help you find typing mistakes. If you have inserted
bar checks where you expect the bar lines to be and LilyPond finds out
that the rhythm doesn't match, it will print out a warning and tell you
in what bar you have the error. I've found this invaluable since it's
very easy to make mistakes when typing in a piece.
   /Mats
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Re: Non-latin1 characters (was: Lyricsto skips notes with melisma's in 2.2)

2005-01-13 Thread =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_Dwu=C5=BCnik?=
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:35:07 +0100, Mats Bengtsson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> MichaÅ DwuÅnik wrote:
> > On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 14:42:37 +0100, Mats Bengtsson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>I don't remember from the top of my head what version of LilyPond
> >>you use. In version 2.2, it was possible to set the input and
> >>font encoding using
> >>\header{
> >>   fontencoding="..."
> >>   inputencoding="..."
> >>}
> >>
> >
> > That _was_ nice :), and let me do some tricks with latex intermediate
> > file, after willingly crashing lilypond by not defining the encoding and
> > using non-latin1 characters inside the piece :)
>
> Did you see
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2003-08/msg00061.html
> which shows how to specify the font that LilyPond uses for lyrics
> (or other textual annotations) using the font-name property?
> Again, this is something that works up to version 2.2 but probably
> not longer.
>
Yes. Instead of the hacks done by you for version from this thread
I "invented" something else, which included adding proper
inputencoding and fontencoding to the header of intermediate file,
together with font-substitution packages
like qtimes (that let me avoid looking into the font directory, which is not
my favourite, and in the same time utilize my, maybe small but existing, LaTeX
experience.
The output was very nice, but the way of dealing with the files was not so,
that's why I tried to move to version 2.4 and do +/- the same. I find
2.4 much more
comfortable with the small annoyance described before. Both 2.2 way and 2.4 way
is not something I would recommend to a fellow composer, but I hope
to be able to do so when 2.6 appears.
I admit, that I shouldn't pay to much attention to that and wait for 2.6,
but in the same time I would really like to avoid having to wait for 2.8,
because some working mechanism was discarded. (Please do not treat
it as doubting in lilypond developers, it's just a bitter experience from
some other GNU projects hunting for the ultimate solution, which is
always "to come
in the next version").

Thanks for your help
MichaÅ

PS:I feel like I'm saying the same thing for the n-th time, apologies
for the bored
PS2: We _want_ national characters, and if someone needs an example -
the difference between "doing a favor" and, err..  "having oral intercourse"
is only l or \l in TeX code
PS3: 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.5/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Integrating-LaTeX-and-music.html
shows that even for 2.5 different encodings are usable, but very far from the 
quality of the engraving itself, and that would be a pity to have perfect notes 
with badly aligned text with shifts.


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Re: convert-ly

2005-01-13 Thread Jan Janovcik
Thanks, this will help me to get good output from the
converted input files (i.e. without shifted lyrics...
:-) I have downloaded the input files as well as the
original pdf's from
http://www.upv.es/coro/victoria/index.html (great site
dedicated to the music of T.L. de Victoria) and the
pdf files are of poor quality - it seems like there
were no type 1 fonts in Lilypond 1.4 ...

Anyway, it would still be nice if this issue with ties
could be addressed in future versions of convert-ly. 

The choir, I sing is, is preparing a performance of
Victoria's Officio Defunctorum and I decided to
typeset a barless part in alto cleff for myself (I
sing alto and as a former pianist I decided I need
some training in reading alto cleff :-) instead of
singing from the score with all voices in modern
clefs. I have the input files for the score and I'm
making this part - so I manually replace all tied
notes with their real lenght notes, etc. - i.e. the
trick you proposed won't work here.

Anyway, thanks for quick and (partially) helpfull
response.

peace

jj

--- Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The easiest solution for you is probably to tell
> your current version of
> LilyPond to also ignore ties when assigning lyrics
> to notes
> (assuming that you use version 2.4.x now, always
> tell what version
> you use to get a relevant answer):
> 
> \score{
>...
> \layout{
>...
>\context{
>  \Score
>  melismaBusyProperties = #'(melismaBusy
> slurMelismaBusy beamMelismaBusy)
>}
> }
> }
> 
> The default definition can be found at
>
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/Score.html
> and some explanations can be found at
>
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond-internals/Melisma_005ftranslator.html
> 
> /Mats


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Re: Comment marks

2005-01-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Search for "comment" in the Unified Index of the manual.
   /Mats
Gordon Gilbert wrote:
Is it possible to comment out whole sections of your file?  For example 
in the process of trying something, would it work to comment out a whole 
section of music or chords, or words like this?

%{
a b c d
d e f g
}
Would that whole thing not be processed as it is?  or would it just 
choke at the unmatched braces?

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Re: Comment marks

2005-01-13 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 13 January 2005 07:15 am, Gordon Gilbert wrote:
> Is it possible to comment out whole sections of your file?  For example in
> the process of trying something, would it work to comment out a whole
> section of music or chords, or words like this?
>
> %{
> a b c d
> d e f g
> }

Comment marks are this: %{  %}
not this: %{ }

LilyPond ignores the whole thing.  It isn't there.  Of course
a brace within the marks will leave a brace outside
them unmatched.  In your example though, if you typed

% a b c d
% d e f g

you would type two characters instead of four, so unless
you are using slyce and/or sly you would find two main
uses for long comments: to write a long comment at the
beginning or end of your file or to temporarily remove
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Re: Comment marks

2005-01-13 Thread Maurizio Tomasi
Gordon Gilbert wrote:
Is it possible to comment out whole sections of your file?  For example 
in the process of trying something, would it work to comment out a whole 
section of music or chords, or words like this?

%{
a b c d
d e f g
}
Would that whole thing not be processed as it is?  or would it just 
choke at the unmatched braces?

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Of course it is possible, and you was near to get the right solution! 
Simply enclose the part to comment between %{ and %}, i.e.

%{
a b c d
d e f g
%}
will ignore the two lines "a b c d" and "d e f g".
Maurizio.
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No .ps for me?

2005-01-13 Thread Kilian A. Foth


Buoyed by my recent success in polyphonic typesetting, I tried to
install LilyPond on my home PC. These are the versions I have:

  lilypond 2.4.2
  ec-fonts-mftraced 1.0.9
  mftrace 1.1.2
  tetex 2.0.2

Now, LilyPond creates the .dvi file perfectly, but neither .ps or .pdf
files. It turns out that the dvips call

  dvips  -t "a4"   -u+ec-mftrace.map -u+lilypond.map -Ppdf music

fails with 

 `dvips: ! Couldn't find header file ecrm10'

Sure enough, I don't have a file `ecrm10' anywhere. 

Now, someone on the list reported that problem and said that the
solution was to replace `ecrm10' by `ecrm10.pfa', etc., in
ec-mftrace.map. But if I do this, I get no text in the .ps file, and
mktexpk says:

 kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode ljfour --bdpi 8000 --mag 1+0/8000 --dpi 
8000 ecrm10
 mktexpk: Mismatched mode ljfour and resolution 8000; ignoring mode.
 mktexpk: Can't guess mode for 8000 dpi devices.
 mktexpk: Use a config file, or update me.

So lilypond appears to demanding 8000 dpi fonts for everything, but
I would need 600 dpi. How do I change this?

(On my office machine I have 

  lilypond 2.4.2
  ec-fonts-mftraced 1.0.7
  mftrace 1.0.34
  tetex 2.0.2c-3

and the same input works perfectly.)


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Re: \skip in lyricmode

2005-01-13 Thread Michael Kallas
Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 12.01.05 10:09:54:
> 
> If you use \lyricsto or \addlyrics, than the durations of each
> lyrics syllable is completely determined by the rhythm of the
> music voice that you have attached the lyrics to, so in that
> situation a \skip X will just denote a space with the same duration
> as the corresponding note, just as you have observed.
> However, if you don't use \lyricsto or \addlyrics and explicitly
> specify the durations for each syllable, then \skip 1 will work
> exactly as you expected.
So, if you use \lyricsto, the character _ (underline) is much more
convenient and stands for one syllable, too.

Best wishes
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Intelligently joining multiple songs?

2005-01-13 Thread Michael Kallas
Hi,

I created some pieces based on the satb.ly template 
(started with 2.2.5 and converted to 2.4.2).
Now I'm searching for an intelligent way to join them in one big file.
Optimally I'd like to select only one voice from all input files.
I did not find any \input command or such.

Does anybody have a solution to that?

Bye
Michael



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Re: Bar lines. Was: Lilypond pieces already entered

2005-01-13 Thread Michael Kallas
Hi,

Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 13.01.05 13:46:01:
> 
> 
> 
> Gordon Gilbert wrote:
>  >...
> > And about the bar lines -- I've not had a great deal of success with them, 
> > and prefer automatic setting of barlines.
> 
> What problems have you experienced? Of course you should let LilyPond
> find the bar line positions automatically, but the idea of the bar
> checks '|' is to help you find typing mistakes. If you have inserted
> bar checks where you expect the bar lines to be and LilyPond finds out
> that the rhythm doesn't match, it will print out a warning and tell you
> in what bar you have the error. I've found this invaluable since it's
> very easy to make mistakes when typing in a piece.

Barcheck is really great, yes, but I've found some times it fails when it 
shouldn't.
Try for example:
\time 4/4
r4 R4*3 |
This fails reproduceably in 2.4.2 (or am I coding nonsense here)?
I've found also some curious error which I try to reproduce, but that one seems 
to be spurious.

See you
Michael



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Re: Landscape problems

2005-01-13 Thread Michael Kallas
Hi,

Gilles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 11.01.05 17:06:54:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I had a file with the following:
> -
> \version "2.2.0"
> 
> #(set-global-staff-size 16)
> 
> \include "all.inc.ly"
> 
> \score {
> \staves
> \paper {
> orientation = "landscape"
Maybe you should look at the doc of 2.4.2 chapter 7.5.10 "Paper size".
It mentions the example 
#(set-default-paper-size "a6" 'landscape)

Bye
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Re: Bar lines

2005-01-13 Thread Gilles


> \time 4/4
> r4 R4*3 |
> This fails reproduceably in 2.4.2 (or am I coding nonsense here)?

Unless I'm mistaken, "R" (capital R) is only for multi-measure rests,
which means: to be used when one or more measures are completely empty
except for the pause sign.


Best,
Gilles


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Re: Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 26, Issue 23

2005-01-13 Thread Joshua Koo
For my case, I delete that line because it points to the dtd to a wrong path, 
causing xslt processor (xalan) to give an error message and terminate.

>From http://www.nongnu.org/xml2ly/ ,

\quote {
Here is an example of what I do with xsltproc:

xsltproc --novalid xml2ly.xsl schubert.xml > schubert.ly

[in this situation schubert.xml is in the directory where xml2ly.xsl is and the 
output is redirected to schubert.ly, lying in the same place: but you can 
specify the paths you need!!]

I suggest that you not let your processor validate the MusicXML file [above, by 
the --novalid option], otherwise it will take even more time to do the 
conversion!
 }


Joshua

=== At 2005-01-13, 18:18:20 you wrote: ===

>Just for the record, why do you prevent your xml file from being 
>validated against the DTD ?
>
>Cheers,
>
>D.
>
>Joshua Koo wrote:
>
>>Try http://www.recordare.com/dtds/partwise.html
>>
>>I still can access the server. Also after i installed the musicXml for finale 
>>plugin, a directory C:\MusicXML is created with lots of dtd and xsl.
>>
>>However, when I'm running xml2ly, i usually remove the doctype line eg. 
>>  > Partwise//EN" "//D:/Program Files/MusicXML/partwise.dtd">
>>to prevent the xsl parser from validating the xml file.
>>
>>Joshua
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:37:41 +0100
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Music XML DTD or Schema
>>>To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
>>>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>>
>>>I decided I'd have a look at an improved MusicXML -> Lilypond converter,
>>>but recordare's site seems to be down, no way for me to get the DTD
>>>or even better an XML Schema for MusicXML... 
>>>
>>>Can anyone help ?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>D.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>
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Re: adding to docs (was: Lyricsto skips notes with melisma's in 2.2 ?)

2005-01-13 Thread Michael Kallas
Hi,

Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 12.01.05 23:23:42:
> 
> 
> How can we improve the manual faster?  Be very specific about the
> changes.  For example,
[...]
> If you (or anybody) could write material and tell me exactly where
> to put it, I could update the docs much faster.  You don't need
> to download CVS, edit texinfo, or anything like that.
> 
> For example, you could say this:
> 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/ 
> Printing-lyrics.html
> In section 2.13  (printing lyrics), above the last line ("More options,  
> like..."),
> please add:
> 
> To add lyrics to a divided part, use foo bar.  For example,
> 
> \score {
>   \notes {blah <> }
>   \lyrics {blah <> }
>   blah blah blah
> }
> --
> 
> If I have something like that, I can easily see where it goes, check if  
> it belongs
> there, check the spelling and grammar, and put the lilypond code into
> the texinfo document.  I might not agree with where you wanted to put  
> it,
> so I might add it to a different section (with a link from the place  
> you wanted
> it).  For example, I think that divisi lyrics are too complicated to go  
> in
> section 2.13; I'd probably add them to chapter 5.  But if I have some
> material to work with, I can deal with it much faster.
> 
> 
> This goes for all the other "why don't you document this" or "the docs  
> should
> say something about this" issues.  Tell me exactly what you want and  
> where.
> You don't need to compile anything, you don't need to download the  
> source
> tree, or anything like that.  All you need are the documentation, an  
> email
> client, and a bit of time.
> 
> Cheers,
> - Graham Percival, Documentation Editor.
Maybe you could add that text to
the footnote in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/About-this-manual.html#About-this-manual
or some other prominent place like the mailing list archive site.

Bye
Michael



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Re: Intelligently joining multiple songs?

2005-01-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It's described in the Tutorial!
   /Mats
Michael Kallas wrote:
Hi,
I created some pieces based on the satb.ly template 
(started with 2.2.5 and converted to 2.4.2).
Now I'm searching for an intelligent way to join them in one big file.
Optimally I'd like to select only one voice from all input files.
I did not find any \input command or such.

Does anybody have a solution to that?
Bye
Michael

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Re: Bar lines. Was: Lilypond pieces already entered

2005-01-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Michael Kallas wrote:
Barcheck is really great, yes, but I've found some times it fails when it 
shouldn't.
Try for example:
\time 4/4
r4 R4*3 |
This fails reproduceably in 2.4.2 (or am I coding nonsense here)?
As has already been pointed out by others, your example doesn't really
make sense, since R gives you a full bar rest (or more of them). Still,
the bar check should work, so I send a copy to the bug reporting mailing
list.
   /Mats
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How to go back in time

2005-01-13 Thread Laura Conrad

I'm trying to regenerate some old stuff with lilypond 1.9.5.  I have a
.deb package, that warns me that I'm regressing, but seems to replace
the 2.0 version of lilypond that I've been using fine.  When I
run lilypond everything looks as I expect.

But when I run lilypond-book, I get terrible font problems.
(noteheads as punctuation, clefs as  bars, etc.)

Is lilypond-book maybe getting its fonts from somewhere wierd where I
have 2.0 fonts that haven't been removed?  Does anyone have any other
ideas for what to try?

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Fret Diagram height

2005-01-13 Thread Nicholas Hasser
Lilypond Version 2.4.2 on Cygwin...
Is there a similar method of adjusting the positioning of Fret Diagrams? 
I've tried both \override Fret #'minimum-spacing = #5 and \override 
FretDiagram #'minimum-spacing = #5, but neither seem to affect the 
resulting PDF. The intent is to have all Fret Diagrams a constant height 
above the staff.

Thanks,
Nick
--
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 22:09:05 +0100
From: "Sven Axelsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Volta brackets on different heights
To: 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="us-ascii"
That seems to do the trick. Thanks.
-- P/S Sven Axelsson, The Murray Pipes & Drums of Gothenburg
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: den 3 januari 2005 12:59
>> To: Sven Axelsson
>> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
>> Subject: Re: Volta brackets on different heights
>>
>> To quote an old answer I sent to the mailing list:
>>
>> The trick is to increase the minimum-space property, which
>> determines the default minimum spacing between the bracket
>> and the stave. The default value is 5, so try something like
>> \override Score.VoltaBracket #'minimum-space = #7
>>
>>/Mats
>>
>> Sven Axelsson wrote:
>
>>> > Hello List.
>>> >
>>> > This question is for Lilypond 2.4.2.
>>> >
>>> > I've recently started to use Lilypond for typesetting music
>
>> for the Highland
>
>>> > Bagpipe, having used MusicTeX for many years before. The
>
>> bagpipe specific
>
>>> > stuff is working fine - I started out with Andrew McNabb's
>
>> definitions and
>
>>> > changed a lot of stuff to better suit my previous work.
>>> >
>>> > One thing I'm encountering all the time now is that the
>
>> volta brackets for
>
>>> > adjacent alternatives are put on different height. I would
>
>> like to *always*
>
>>> > put the brackets at the same height by some magic in the
>
>> \layout section I am
>
>>> > including in my bagpipe.ly file. I have tried this:
>>> >
>>> > \layout {
>>> >   \context {
>>> > \Score
>>> > \override VoltaBracket #'padding = #3.0
>>> >   }
>>> > }
>>> >
>>> > with different numbers for the padding, but it has zero effect.
>>> >
>
>>
>> --
>> =
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>>Signals, Sensors and Systems
>>Royal Institute of Technology
>>SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
>>Sweden
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Help for OSX setup.

2005-01-13 Thread Mark Tulk
Hi,
Does anyone know if there exists any 'simple' step-by-step instructions 
for installing and running Lilypond on Mac OS X? I am not familiar with 
UNIX  applications and need some really basic step-by-step help. 
Thanks!

Mark.

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transparent measures

2005-01-13 Thread =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Andrzej_Kope=E6?=
Hi there,
during my adventure with lilypond I came across a problem of invisible 
measures.  I need to have some of bars in some staves quite transparent. 
To do so I moved the Staff_system_engraver form Staff context to Voice 
(in addition this manipulation causes barlines to disappear, but 
nevertheless...). Then I tried to make a bar (put in separate voice 
context) in one staff transparent by changing its "transparent" 
property, but it didn't work. But -- the same operation worked refering 
to "thickness" property. I don't know if my way of thinking is going in 
right way, but if someone has any idea, I would be greatful :)

And some code illustrating the problem:
\version "2.4.2"
%this doesn't seem to change anything
%staOFF = { \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'transparent = ##t }
%staON = { \revert Staff.StaffSymbol #'transparent }
%this does its work.
staOFF = { \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = 2 }
staON = { \revert StaffSymbol #'thickess }
vnTwo = \relative c' {
\context Voice ="Vn" { r1 | c4 r4 r2 }
\context Voice ="Vnt" { \staOFF s1 } 
\context Voice ="Vn" { |  c4 }
}

vn = \relative c' {
r1
| c4 d e f |
}
\layout {
 \context {
   \Staff
   \remove "Staff_symbol_engraver"
 }
 \context {
   \Voice
   \consists "Staff_symbol_engraver"
 }
}
\score { <<
 \context StaffGroup = "violiniI" <<
   \context Staff ="vnI" \vn
   \context Staff ="vnII" \vn
   \context Staff ="vnIII" \vnWithGap
   \context Staff ="vnIV" \vn
   \context Staff ="vnV" \vn
   >>
%here come other instrumental groups
>>
}
Sincerly yours,
Andrew
PS. I'm working on linux Gentoo (x86), but this should be of no 
importance, shouldn't it?

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Re: How to go back in time

2005-01-13 Thread Mats Bengtsson
It could happen that you have generated font files left over
in some directory. To find out where, try to run the following
commands and see what directory the file paths point at:
kpsewhich feta20.pk
kpsewhich feta20.pfa
if any of these paths point to a directory in /tmp/ or /var/ or
something like that, you can safely remove all the files in that
directory. Afterwards, you can run the command 'texhash' to update
the TeX file name database.
Regards
   /Mats
Laura Conrad wrote:
I'm trying to regenerate some old stuff with lilypond 1.9.5.  I have a
.deb package, that warns me that I'm regressing, but seems to replace
the 2.0 version of lilypond that I've been using fine.  When I
run lilypond everything looks as I expect.
But when I run lilypond-book, I get terrible font problems.
(noteheads as punctuation, clefs as  bars, etc.)
Is lilypond-book maybe getting its fonts from somewhere wierd where I
have 2.0 fonts that haven't been removed?  Does anyone have any other
ideas for what to try?
--
=
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Signal Processing
Signals, Sensors and Systems
Royal Institute of Technology
SE-100 44  STOCKHOLM
Sweden
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Fax:   (+46) 8 790 7260
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Re: Fret Diagram height

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hi Nick,

you could try something like 

\set Staff.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-9 . 12)

Thomas
> Lilypond Version 2.4.2 on Cygwin...
> 
> Is there a similar method of adjusting the positioning of Fret
> Diagrams? I've tried both \override Fret #'minimum-spacing = #5 and
> \override FretDiagram #'minimum-spacing = #5, but neither seem to
> affect the resulting PDF. The intent is to have all Fret Diagrams a
> constant height above the staff.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nick
>



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Re: Fret Diagram height

2005-01-13 Thread Thomas Scharkowski
Hi Nick,

you could try somethinh like 

\set Staff.minimumVerticalExtent = #'(-9 . 12)

Thomas
> Lilypond Version 2.4.2 on Cygwin...
> 
> Is there a similar method of adjusting the positioning of Fret
> Diagrams? I've tried both \override Fret #'minimum-spacing = #5 and
> \override FretDiagram #'minimum-spacing = #5, but neither seem to
> affect the resulting PDF. The intent is to have all Fret Diagrams a
> constant height above the staff.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nick
>



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Re: How to go back in time

2005-01-13 Thread Laura Conrad
> "MB" == Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

MB> It could happen that you have generated font files left over
MB> in some directory. 

I think I've fixed it -- I had some environment variables set to point
wrong.  Thanks.


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Re: \skip in lyricmode

2005-01-13 Thread Charles Gran
So--if I understand this correctly--the number after \skip is still 
required in \lyricsto but doesn't do anything.

Realted to this, I have an introduction to a song that has a pickup text 
(discussed in an earlier post).  The text useed to appear on the and of 
four in m.3.  I added phrase marks and staccati to the introduction and 
now the text won't appear.  Using \skip, there is a point where the text 
disappears.

I am using 2.4.2 under cygwin:
\version "2.4.2"
#(set-default-paper-size "letter")
%#(set-global-staff-size 25)
\header {
title = "Casting Spells"
poet = "C J Ver Burg"
composer = "Charles Gran"
tagline = ""
}
melody = {
\set Staff.extraNatural = ##f
\clef treble
\key f \minor
\time 2/2
%\tempo 2=60
<< { 8-. -. < f' g' >4 8-. -. < f' 
g' >4 } \\ { c'4( b8) f->( c'4) b8 f->( } >>
<< { < c'' e''>8->(   ~ 4) r8 
->( } \\ { aes2) 8-. -. 4 } >>
<< { 8  ) ->( 4.)  c'8 } 
\\ { 4 bes 8-. -. 4 } >>
}

pickup = \lyricmode {
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
\skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8 \skip 8
It's
}
harmonies = \chordmode {
r1 r1 r1
}
\score {
   <<
  \context ChordNames {
 \set chordChanges = ##t
 \harmonies
  }
   \context Voice = one {
  \melody
   }
   \lyricsto "1" \new Lyrics \pickup
   >>
   \layout { }
   \midi { \tempo 2=60 }
}
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Re: Help for OSX setup.

2005-01-13 Thread Richard Grubb
I think some on this list have compiled lilypond for OS-X.
If no one responds, Fink is probably your best bet, although it sounds 
like you need some basic Unix instruction also. Darwin Ports does not 
seem to have a lilypond package. I am thinking about trying to make an 
i-installer package, but don't hold your breath.

For Fink, see http://fink.sourceforge.net/
For Darwin Ports, see http://darwinports.opendarwin.org/
On Jan 12, 2005, at 5:19 PM, Mark Tulk wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone know if there exists any 'simple' step-by-step 
instructions for installing and running Lilypond on Mac OS X? I am not 
familiar with UNIX  applications and need some really basic 
step-by-step help. Thanks!

Mark.

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Re: Accidentals

2005-01-13 Thread J L
Hi
From: Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: J L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Accidentals
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 23:15:39 -0700


A similar thing happened with a key signature change.
i.e.   G major to A major resulted in F-natural + F-sharp & C-sharp & 
G-sharp

It would be good if there was a way to prohibit this.
\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
does that.
Maybe I didn't give a good example. By setting key cancellation to none, ALL 
key cancellations are not printed.

A major to E major in LilyPond would normally be F-natural + C-natural + 
G-natural  +  F-sharp + C-sharp + G-sharp + D-sharp. While normally, only  
F-sharp + C-sharp + G-sharp + D-sharp would be printed.

what about the other way around
E major to A major in LilyPond would normally be F-natural + C-natural + 
G-natural + D-natural  + F-sharp + C-sharp + G-sharp. Normally, just F-sharp 
+ C-sharp + G-sharp + D-natural would be printed.

Any ideas anyone?
Aligorith
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